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BoSox18 April 7th, 2004 12:30 PM

Rate My Ruby Team Please
 
Ok, i just learned about Ev training so almost all of my pokeys have spread evs, but are still pretty good. My Metagoss is the only thing i EV trained, Here We Go...

Aggron Lv 69
Sturdy-Brave-Kings Rock
HP-206
AT-200
DF-284
SA-100
SD-98
SP-98

Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Iron Tale
Hyper Beam(Looking To Replace)


Metagross Lv 58
ClearBody-Naughty-Focus Band
Hp-181
AT-223
DF-181
SA-129
SD-108
SP-94

Psychic
Takedown(Agility)
Meteor Mash
Return


Banette Lv 79
Insomnia-Sassy-Leftovers
HP-228
AT-231
DF-142
SA-155
SD-125
SP-123

Will-O-Wisp
Shadow Ball
Curse
ThunderBolt


Blaziken Lv80
Blaze-Modest-Charcoal
HP-257
AT-205
DF-138
SA-238
SD-133
SP-176

Flamethrower
Overheat
Sky Uppercut
Earthquake


Salamence Lv80
Intimidate-Careful-Dark Glasses
HP-278
AT-241
DF-163
SA-203
SD-157
SP-204

Fly
Crunch
Dragon Breath(Get Rid Of 1)
Dragon Claw (Get Rid Of 1)


Groudon Lv80(Swich With Tyranitar When i get him)
Drought-Brave-SoftSand
HP-276
AT-291
DF-253
SA-188
SD-166
SP-173

Solarbeam
Fissure
Earthquake
Eruption



Future Tyranitar

Quiet-Tank/SP Sweeper
Ev Trained Everything BUT SPEED(mainy SP ATK and HP)

Earthquake
Rockslide
Surf
Crunch


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Dont know what they should hold and what o train my tyranitar in, help?

Dranxis April 7th, 2004 3:49 PM

Hmm, I know very little about Ru/Sa Pokemon, but here are some suggestions.

Aggron: Replace Hyper Beam or Aerial Ace with Blizzard or Ice Beam to combat Ground, Aggron's worst enemy.

Blaziken: Hmm, not sure, but you ought to replace one of your fire moves with a fighting one (not sure if Sky Uppercut is flying or fighting....) to take adavantage of Blaziken's fighting type STAB.

Salamence: Get rid of Dragon Breath. Dragon Claw is slightly more powerful, and since Salamence is a Dragon, and is decently speedy, Paralyzing the enemy isn't as necessary as with other Pokemon. Replace with a fire move to combat Ice.

Hope that helps somewhat.

BoSox18 April 7th, 2004 3:52 PM

thanks.your the only person whou would help.

Xilion_Sword90 April 7th, 2004 4:53 PM

Aggron Lv 69
Sturdy-Brave-Kings Rock
HP-206
AT-200
DF-284
SA-100
SD-98
SP-98

Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Iron Tail
Earthquake/Roar/Protect


Metagross Lv 58
ClearBody-Naughty-Focus Band
Hp-181
AT-223
DF-181
SA-129
SD-108
SP-94

Psychic
Earthquake/Shadow Ball
Meteor Mash
Return/Sludge Bomb


Banette Lv 79
Insomnia-Sassy-Leftovers
HP-228
AT-231
DF-142
SA-155
SD-125
SP-123

Will-O-Wisp
Shadow Ball
Psychic
ThunderBolt


Blaziken Lv80
Blaze-Modest-Charcoal
HP-257
AT-205
DF-138
SA-238
SD-133
SP-176

Flamethrower
Aerial Ace/Bulk Up/Sunny Day
Sky Uppercut
Earthquake


Salamence Lv80
Intimidate-Careful-Dark Glasses
HP-278
AT-241
DF-163
SA-203
SD-157
SP-204

Steel Wing
Crunch
Flamethrower
Dragon Claw (Get Rid Of 1)


Groudon Lv80(Swich With Tyranitar When i get him)
Drought-Brave-SoftSand
HP-276
AT-291
DF-253
SA-188
SD-166
SP-173

Solarbeam
Brick Break
Earthquake
Eruption

[email protected] Bell
Earthquake
Crunch
Rock Slide
Iron Tail/Dragon Dance

Calvin April 8th, 2004 3:20 AM

Let me give this a try.

[email protected] Lv 69
Sturdy-Brave-Kings Rock
HP-206
AT-200
DF-284
SA-100
SD-98
SP-98

Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Iron Tail
Earthquake/Roar


[email protected] or FOcus BandLv 58
ClearBody-Naughty-
Hp-181
AT-223
DF-181
SA-129
SD-108
SP-94

Psychic
Agility
Meteor Mash
Return/Sludge Bomb


Banette Lv 79
Insomnia-Sassy-Leftovers
HP-228
AT-231
DF-142
SA-155
SD-125
SP-123

Will-O-Wisp
Shadow Ball
Psychic
ThunderBolt


Blaziken Lv80
Blaze-Modest-Charcoal
HP-257
AT-205
DF-138
SA-238
SD-133
SP-176

Flamethrower/Overheat
Bulk Up
Brick Break
Earthquake


Salamence Lv80
Intimidate-Careful-Dark Glasses
HP-278
AT-241
DF-163
SA-203
SD-157
SP-204

Filler
Crunch
Flamethrower
Dragon Claw


Groudon Lv80(Swich With Tyranitar When i get him)
Drought-Brave-SoftSand
HP-276
AT-291
DF-253
SA-188
SD-166
SP-173

Solarbeam
Fissure
Earthquake
Flamethrower/ Fire Blast/ Overheat



Future Tyranitar

Quiet-Tank/SP Sweeper
Ev Trained Everything BUT SPEED(mainy SP ATK and HP)

Earthquake
Rockslide/A Power
Surf/T Bolt
Crunch

BoSox18 April 8th, 2004 9:49 AM

ok, did what you said calvin but i breed my banette with a female duskull so i can get the ulitmate hazer lol

Ice demon April 14th, 2004 6:08 PM

Blaziken[adament]-rock slide, earthquake, bulk up/overheat, aerial ace
Att Sweeper do ur best to take down everthing in sight, overheat i for those tight spots but he really isn't a SpAtt pokemon\

Salamence[adament]-dragon dance, rest, brick brake, [email protected] berry
The best way to use this guy if u ask me.If u get enough dragon dances then u can sweep everthing including ice which will fall to a brick break^_^, not to mention u are almost[ALMOST] garanteed the first hit.

Frostweaver April 14th, 2004 7:15 PM

If you're online battling, EV can be adjusted so don't worry too much about it.
(Note: I'm kinda expecting unlimited TMs as if it's online battling)

Aggron [atk +/spatt -] @ leftovers {Rock Head}
EV: Atk and HP

Double Edge
Rock Slide
Substitute
Focus Punch

High def and slow speed... perfect for sub/focus punch combination attack.

Metagross [atk +/spatt -] @ lum berry
EV: Atk and Def

Agility
Meteor Mash
Shadow Ball
Explosion

Feel free to exchange explosion or agility with brick break or earthquake (if you have no explosion then it's quite recommanded to take rest?)

Banette [atk +/sp att -] @ Salac berry
EV: Atk and Spd

Shadow Ball (BEST shadowball user in game so abuse it)
Destiny Bond
Return
HP Bug

Salac berry will definitely allow you to sweep a lot more than you think. HP Bug for anti dark. Destiny Bond assures you to kill one Pokemon. You can't survive long enough for curse. Don't use sp.att and physical attack so save up EVs.

Blaziken [atk +/sp att -] @ salac berry
EV: Atk and Spd
Aerial Ace
Brick Break/reversal
Overheat
Swords Dance/endure

Ugh... Without any sp.att might as well use overheat. If you can survive a hit after using swords dance, didn't get any status and activates salac berry, have fun sweeping then (until you see Skarmory)

Salamence [sp.att +/att -] @ leftovers
EV: SpAtt and Spd
Hydro Pump
Dragon Claw
Crunch/Rest
Flamethrower

Enough physical sweepers... (you have 3 already) Make Salamence a special sweeper to help out. And don't cry at Hydro Pump just because it's not too accurate or low on PP... you won't need too many hits of it to take out the opponent. Plus you badly needed the water attack.

Groudon [spd + / sp.att -] @ leftovers
Ev: Spd and Att
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Brick Break
Return

Feel free to use rock slide somewhere there instead. Groudon's base atk is 150. His sp.att is 100. I know what stats I'm using. The spd plus is to help Groudon's only average speed. It's not like his atk pwr is not high enough especially with SD. However... since this team is in desperate help of sp.att... i suppose you can use him to special sweep but why not take Kyogre then (if we're using ubars)...

Groudon [sp.att +/att -] @ leftovers
EV: Sp.Att and Spd
Solarbeam
Flamethrower
HP Ice/thunderbolt
Dragon Claw/rest

If needed, take out dragon claw for rest for extra endurability. However without it then Kingdra will pawn you badly.


Major Error: WAY TOO MUCH physical sweepers... no electric attack is a bummer at all times.

BoSox18 April 15th, 2004 10:08 AM

this WAS my old ruby team, im concentrating on makeing a TSS now.thanks for your help.


Can you go to my TSS Thread? Scroll down.

zachdom April 16th, 2004 10:13 AM

[QUOTE=BoSox18]Ok, i just learned about Ev training so almost all of my pokeys have spread evs, but are still pretty good. My Metagoss is the only thing i EV trained, Here We Go...

Aggron Lv 69
Sturdy-Brave-Kings Rock
HP-206
AT-200
DF-284
SA-100
SD-98
SP-98

Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Iron Tale
Hyper Beam(Looking To Replace)


Metagross Lv 58
ClearBody-Naughty-Focus Band
Hp-181
AT-223
DF-181
SA-129
SD-108
SP-94

Psychic
Takedown(Agility)
Meteor Mash
Return


Banette Lv 79
Insomnia-Sassy-Leftovers
HP-228
AT-231
DF-142
SA-155
SD-125
SP-123

Will-O-Wisp
Shadow Ball
Curse
ThunderBolt


Blaziken Lv80
Blaze-Modest-Charcoal
HP-257
AT-205
DF-138
SA-238
SD-133
SP-176

Flamethrower
Overheat
Sky Uppercut
Earthquake[YOU MIGHT WANT THIS TO BE BLAZE KICK.]


Salamence Lv80
Intimidate-Careful-Dark Glasses
HP-278
AT-241
DF-163
SA-203
SD-157
SP-204

Fly
Crunch
Dragon Breath(Get Rid Of 1)
Dragon Claw (Get Rid Of 1)


Groudon Lv80(Swich With Tyranitar When i get him)
Drought-Brave-SoftSand
HP-276
AT-291
DF-253
SA-188
SD-166
SP-173

Solarbeam
Fissure
Earthquake
Eruption



Future Tyranitar

Quiet-Tank/SP Sweeper
Ev Trained Everything BUT SPEED(mainy SP ATK and HP)

Earthquake
Rockslide
Surf
Crunch

EVERYTHING ELSE IS FINE.


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Dont know what they should hold and what o train my tyranitar in, help.[QUOTE]

Frostweaver April 20th, 2004 5:38 PM

*points to the Tyranitar above*

You're splitting EVs which is just terrible... Tyrannitar should always just stick with physical sweeping, as there are better special sweepers. Plus EV trained everything is like no EV training. EV training involves dedicating yourself to just 2 stat categories and nothing else (to enhance the pokemon to the best of your ability)

BoSox18 April 21st, 2004 10:20 PM

252 atack
252 hp
6 def


would that be good?

Frostweaver April 22nd, 2004 1:48 PM

Excellent ^_^

EV distribution is quite easy to pick up... once you got the concept, most of the time you know right away that "EV MUST be this and this for this Pokemon". Now knowing that you are increasing attack, attack's stats are much higher than sp.att, making sp.att stats very weak in comparison to physical attacks. That's why you will pack only physical attacks on Tyrannitar now instead of having crunch or surf. The only possible special attack people put on Tyrannitar is perhaps Fire Blast, just to scorch Skarmory (and Fire Blast has enough power to do so even if there's lack of Sp.Att)

BoSox18 April 23rd, 2004 5:36 PM

does tyranitar learn dragon dance naturly or is an egg move only?
whats a good move set for him?

EQ
RS
brick break?(egged)
?

Frostweaver April 23rd, 2004 11:12 PM

Tyrannitar learns dragon dance as egg move.

EQ, RS, BB and DD is the most usual standard Tyranitar out there at the moment. There are occassional ones with counter from FRLG move tutor, or taunt to stop status effect.

Lucifer. April 24th, 2004 2:00 AM

I've never understood why it's unheard of to distribute EVs to both Atk and Spc Atk. It gives them more variety when coming up against enemies with higher defences against either physical or special attacks.

So like, say your Seviper has 252 Spc Atk EVs, 252 Dfc and 6 Spd. You can load attacks like Crunch, Flamethrower etc on him to capitalize on it. But if you came up against a Blissey you'd be royaly owned if your primary physical attacker has already been defeated, or Seviper is your last remaining monster.

Sure, the remaining EVs not used to boost either attack stat can be used for defences, but surely it can't be that bad to have a universal attacker equiped for anything ready and waiting. Y'know?

I'm not necessarily recommending Tyranitar for this job, but hey.

Frostweaver April 24th, 2004 10:33 AM

Because if you have EV in both sp.atk and atk, then you're left witha defenseless Pokemon who can't get the first strike to finish off the opponent. Usually, it's speed + one of the attack for a sweeper. If you're naturally slow, then you won't have to put EV in speed but you'll be putting it usually into HP or some form of def so you'll live a turn (as you'll always be attacked first due to your slow speed).

BoSox18 April 24th, 2004 1:50 PM

hmm,how bout rest instead of dd?no time for eggmoves

Frostweaver April 24th, 2004 1:53 PM

if it's a must... i guess you should use rest with chesto berry attached then... that'll be a little better. Though I still think T-tars should have dragon dance...

BoSox18 April 24th, 2004 8:31 PM

what pokemon learn dragon dance at a low level(i already picked the perfect larvitar)
only thing is i could only use dd OR brick break cause i used the bb tm already


your thoughts?

Frostweaver April 25th, 2004 11:44 AM

I think Altaria or Salamence learns it at the lowest level already... However such a powerful move, pretty safe to say that it's one of the most dangerous stat buffers there are, always comes at late level. Plus it's not that hard to get yourself up by levels when there's rare candy? (which 5 zigzagoons give plenty of)

I don't know how to manage TM conflicts really... as I always assume that it's online battling (and that > RL battling on gba).

BoSox18 April 25th, 2004 12:42 PM

ok

DD
EQ
RS
REST

got brick break on aggron,u like?

Frostweaver April 25th, 2004 1:59 PM

i like brick break on too many things ^^;

But then FRLG has brick break purchasable in celadon i believe...

BoSox18 April 25th, 2004 9:04 PM

is my moveset good for now?

Frostweaver April 25th, 2004 9:08 PM

it's the best that you can manage for now... or use a cheating device to get the moves on your Pokemon anyway (as Tyrannitar is currently not obtainable until FRLG comes out, which is when brick break comes along with it)

BoSox18 April 25th, 2004 9:14 PM

thanks for your help, i might get bb on colloseum and trade it over, but i dunno.
thanks

BoSox18 April 26th, 2004 5:13 PM

sory bout the 2ble post, but i need some breedin help

i got a male altaria with dragon dance but it dont breed with tyanitar!help

Frostweaver April 26th, 2004 5:29 PM

Only Lapras, Charmander family and Dratini family is part MONSTER egg group capable of learning dragon dance... so for now you either have to Gameshark dragon dance on T-tar again (or gameshark one of those Pokemon) or else you won't be getting dragon dance

BoSox18 April 26th, 2004 5:38 PM

none of those pokemon are obtainable in r/s withought tradin or hackin right?

it looks like im goin to have to use bb then...

Frostweaver April 26th, 2004 5:46 PM

Tyrannitar wasn't obtainable to begin with... I don't see why there will be a conflict to use your cheating device again. That's what it is for to begin with, right? =/

Blah... such a shame how Tyrannitar can't swords dance with FRLG... swords dance will be so much better than dragon dance for Tyrannitar ;p

BoSox18 April 26th, 2004 5:50 PM

actualy i rented PC and traded the female tyranitar to my SP, but i had to take the game back.i Was going to get a Shark but it was overpriced.

does tyranitar learn ANY boosting moves on its own?

Frostweaver April 26th, 2004 5:56 PM

um... screech and scary face? O.o; Curse is a weaker version of bulk up but it is there (egg move though)

Tyrannitar's only worthwhile natural moves are Earthquake and Rock Slide (most Pokemon needs TMs, Move tutor or egg moves to be usable really). Egg moves have dragon dance, and curse that's good. Move tutor in FRLG has the valuable Substitute and Double Edge to learn.

BoSox18 April 26th, 2004 5:59 PM

how do i get curse on him?

Frostweaver April 26th, 2004 6:06 PM

lol... actually curse is impossible for you to get too as you need access to Snorlax or Slowpoke ;p oh life must be tough without FRLG...

BoSox18 April 26th, 2004 6:09 PM

sob,its hopeless!

eq
rs
bb
rest

im going to shoot myself now


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