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Pandoras Box June 15th, 2006 8:47 AM

My Team please rate
 
This is the team i am using right now

Swellow lvl 28
Peck
Quick Attack
Wing Attack
Fly

Blaziken lvl 100
Fire Blast
Rock Smash
Overheat
Fire Punch

Rayquaza lvl 78
Fly
Surf
Hyper Beam
Waterfall

Registeel lvl 40
Metal Claw
Curse
Super Power
Ancientpower

Regirock lvl 40
Rock Throw
Curse
Superpower
Ancientpower

Regice lvl 41
Icy Wind
Curse
Superpower
Ancientpower

My Ultimate Pokemon *in the making*

Gyarados lvl 46
Surf
Strength
Fire Blast
Hyper Beam

tell me what i need to improve on

Thanks

Kraka-chan June 15th, 2006 9:44 AM

Urm, this is the wrong place to ask. I think it should be in Strategies and Movesets.
But since I'm here...
Swellow - You could replace Peck with a Stronger Move. I mean Quick Attack does have pleanty of PP.
Rayquaza - I think you ought to teach it Dragon Claw(appropriate to its Dragon type). Rather than waste the TM, go to the Move Tutor and he will teach Rayquaza the move. It's worth it.
The Regis - Teach at least one strong move that is appropriate to their type (Regice - Ice Beam or Blizzard) But keep in mind that they are really...slow...to...attack...
Gyarados - Strength? I was thinking of teaching mine a good physical move, I'll keep that in mind.
Blaziken - I wouldn't use Overheat because of the SP Attack loss after the attack. And since it consists of mainly Sp. Attacks, I'd go for a good Fighting Type Move.
Otherwise, It's a good team. Keep it up.

Squeegee Beckenheim June 15th, 2006 9:56 AM

I'm going to move this to the place where it belongs, and where you can get ten times more help.

MOVED

Lord Mike June 15th, 2006 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras Box
This is the team i am using right now

Swellow lvl 28
Endure/Return/Steel Wing
Quick Attack
Aeriel Ace
Endeavor/Return/Steel Wing

Endeavor Swellow is cool. Aeriel Ace since this is obviously in-game and shouldn't try to get HP Flying with 70 BP. There's a Move Tutor for Endure somewhere. Quick Attack is for PP and its fun as well in-game. Return and Steel Wing over Endure Endeavor is you want even more PP.

Blaziken lvl 100
Fire Blast
Bulk Up/Swords Dance
Rock Slide
Sky Uppercut

Man, you messed up Blaziken. This even works in-game and NetBattle.

Rayquaza lvl 78
Aeriel Ace
Extremespeed
Earthquake
Rock Slide

Eew. This a truely gross set. DD Rayquaza is cool. CB Adamant Rayquaza rules.

Registeel lvl 40
Toxic
Curse
Ammesia/Rest
Ancientpower

This could be a possibility I guess.

Regirock lvl 40
Earthquake
Curse
Rock Slide
Explosion/Rest

I wish you could understand what Regirock is truely good for doing. *cough* Physical Wall

Regice lvl 41
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Ice Beam
Rest

*cough* Special Wall

My Ultimate Pokemon *in the making*

Gyarados lvl 46
Earthquake
Return
Dragon Dance
Hydro Pump/Roar/Taunt

*barf* What the heck? Fire Blast on a Gyarados?!? Tell me when you learn what Gyarados is good for doing.

tell me what i need to improve on

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras Box
tell me what i need to improve on

Do I really have to tell you how not good your team was?

White Lotus June 15th, 2006 11:29 AM

I've never used a lot of the pokes in your party so this is just general advice but don't use all the same type of moves on your pokes. Give swellow facade because it'll combine with guts if your poisoned, burned, or paralyzed and do hella damage. Your blaziken has 3 fire moves change 2 of them to thunderpunch and rock slide. Change rock smash to sky uppercut or another harder hitting fighting move you like. I'd make this one...

Blaziken - (HASTY or NAIVE) 'Blaze' w/Salac Berry
EV's - Smogon says spd 264<that's lv 100 total> I'd max spd and att (overheat + blaze)
- Substitute (Endure)
- Focus Punch (Sword Dance)
- Reversal
- Overheat

The first is more general since you can sub-punch your hp down but the second is the sexier sweeper, just sword dance while the enemy hits you endure when you're low and let the reversals begin. Overheat is to take care of skarm types who'll mess up your sweeping fun. I really wanna try this guy out now!!! I wish i had picked him instead of sceptile, and to think if i had xd when i started i could have gotten all 3 starters. I have 87 rare candies and i might actually trade them 1 by 1 to my xd game and start over just to get swampert and blaziken because i got starter envy.:embarrass

shanecdavis June 15th, 2006 11:30 AM

This should have posted in the Your Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald Team thread that is stickied at the top. Hopefully a mod will relocate this shortly.

Anyways, since you are asking for help and have made many errors, let's cover a few DON'TS first.

- DON'T give a Poke FOUR moves of the same type. It is very redundant and horribly limits what the Poke can do. Aside from Dodrio, Swellow is a great Normal/Flying-type, but you have severely restricted its capabilities with unnecessary moves. For example, what is this Swellow going to do when it comes across a Poke that resists Flying-type moves? Nothing. It has to switch out.

- DON'T use HM moves that aren't called Surf on any Pokes that you are going to battle with. None of them are any good. That is what HM slaves are for. Get a Tropius and a Wailmer and then teach it 4 HM moves (both can learn up to five). Then pull it out when you need it.

- DON'T use two-turn moves like Fly, Dig, or Hyper Beam. The two turns it takes to do one move ends up being less than attacking twice with a different move.

Here we go: (fixes in BOLD)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras Box
This is the team i am using right now

Swellow lvl 28
- Aerial Ace
- Facade/Return/Rest
- Return/Sleep Talk
- Quick Attack

After I say DON'T use two attacking moves of the same type, Swellow is an exception. Mostly for its limited movepoll, but also because of its Guts Ability. When it has a status condition, its Atk is multiplied by 1.5. Combine it with its good Spd and you have the best Normal Flyer in the game, not called Dodrio. As for the moves, make sure you let it learn Aerial Ace at Lv38, use a Heart Scale to re-teach it Quick Attack, and then a combo of Facade/Return/Rest/Sleep Talk. Facade is nice since it will also boost its Atk by 1.5 if it is either poisoned, paralyzed, or burned. Return is good due to its high Attack Power (102). The Rest/Sleep Talk works great with Swellow since Rest activates Guts and then ups the power of its attacking moves as outlined above. When you can, have it hold a Choice Band, and you will get yet another 1.5 Atk boost. This would be one helluva Poke if its defenses didn't suck and wasn't weak to so many things.


Blaziken lvl 100
- Fire Blast/Overheat
- Rock Slide/Endure
- Sky Uppercut
- Swords Dance/Bulk Up/Reversal

Lv100 and you stuck it with Rock Smash and three Fire-type moves? Fire-types are bad enough, but don't hinder it with those moves. The problem with Blaziken is that it cannot learn two of its best moves until you defeat the E4 and have battled in the Battle Frontier enough to afford the Move Tutors. If you don't have Emerald, then Blaziken really suffers. Granted it is Lv100 and can defeat any Poke in the game anyway, but it is just bad practice. Take another Heart Scale to the Move Tutor in Fallarbor and re-teach it the awesome Sky Uppercut (Fighting). Then go the BF and have the Move Tutor teach it Rock Slide and Swords Dance. If you cannot do that, then go the Endure/Reversal route. Bulk Up can also be used instead of SD, but I wouldn't recommend it. Just don't use Earthquake on it. SU and OH can almost cover anything EQ, and you need to use your EQ on a better option anyway.


Rayquaza lvl 78
- Aerial Ace//Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance//Fire Blast/Crunch
- Earthquake/Extremespeed//Ice Beam
- Rock Slide//Thunderbolt

An HM Rayquaza is a VERY sad Rayquaza. Plus all his Rayquaza friends make fun of him for having two moves that take two turns. Using Legendaries in-game is pretty cheap to begin with, but personal opinion aside, there are three ways to go with RayRay. First is to take advantage of its monstrous Atk and use a physical set (the first set). It learns Dragon Dance naturally, so you will need to take another trip to Fallarbor with a Heart Scale. I hope you have been collecting them. This is what you want to put Earthquake on, if you choose to go with physical Ray. If you cannot do Rock Slide, go with Extremespeed instead. Essentially, after one DD, Ray becomes Barry Bonds and knocks everything out of the park. Extremespeed is great because it ensures that it will attack first almost 100% of the time. The next option is special Ray, which takes advantage of its crazy high SAtk. The moves are after the "//" in each slot above. It basically can inflict at least normal damage to every Poke in the game, and hit effectively on over 3/4ths. The moves this guy learns is just sick and wrong and the reason why a lot of trainers don't use him. The last option is to mix the physical and special moves together. You can basically throw four moves together and call it good. Well, in-game.


Registeel lvl 40
Metal Claw
Curse
Super Power
Ancientpower

This Poke is unnecessary since you already have Regirock and Regice. Replace it with Gyarados ASAP.

Regirock lvl 40
- Curse
- Earthquake/Thunder Wave
- Rest/Explosion
- Rock Slide/Ancientpower

Regirock can be used a few different ways, but its Rock typing leaves it pretty vulnerable, but nothing too major in-game. Curse can make Regirock either a strong physical attacker or bolster it as a physical wall. Go with EQ/Explosion as an attacker, and TW/Rest to wall. RS is preferred, but Ancientpower will do.


Regice lvl 41
-Ice Beam
- Rest
- Thunder Wave/Toxic
- Thunderbolt

Regice is a great special wall and it has the stats and the moves to be a good special attacker too. BoltBeam is used to cause damage to most Pokes you will encounter. You will rarely find a Poke that can resist both. Toxic or TW to either cause additional damage or status, and Rest to make Regice last a long time. In-game you can have this thing hold Chesto Berry to give it a free Rest. It only works in-game since those battles don't last nearly as long.


My Ultimate Pokemon *in the making*

Gyarados lvl 46
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Substitute/Thunder Wave
- Facade/Return


tell me what i need to improve on

Sadly, like Rayquaza, the other Gyarados make fun of this one. Special attacks on Gyarados is not a good idea. If you MUST have one, use Hydro Pump, since the STAB makes it at least hit somewhat hard. The problem is that Gyarados has a very weak base SAtk of 60. Charmander has the same base SAtk, if that helps you understand how weak it is in that department. On the other hand, it has a base Atk of a whopping 125. There are only 12 other non-Legendary Pokes with a higher base Atk than that. DD and EQ should be a no brainer. Sadly, the only Flying move Gyara can learn is Hidden Power [Flying] which is impossible to get on a wild Gyara. You could breed and eventually get the correct IVs to get it, but it won't be near the 60-70 AP that you would want. You are better off with either Sub so you can set up DD, or TW. Facade and Return are there since Taunt isn't too great in-game and it gives you added physical power. NB Gyarados can be a complete terror. In-game Gyara, not so much.

Thanks

To be honest, you are relying quite a bit too much on Legendary pokes, which just isn't necessary in-game. You can substitute Rayquaza for Salamence, Regirock for Weezing/Skarmory/Umbreon, and Regice for Milotic/Blissey/Snorlax/Umbreon and still have a solid team. I would also ditch the Lv100 Blaziken and use a Poke that is closer to the levels of your other Pokes too. Good luck.

Pandoras Box June 15th, 2006 12:09 PM

ok i decided to amke a whole new team and here it is
i have not taught them the moves yet but r going 2

Swellow lvl 28
Fly
Double Team
Aerial Ace
Steel Wing

Masquerain lvl 35
Rain Dance
Sunny Day
Attract
Thief

Delcatty lvl 29
Thunder
Shockwave
Attract
Hyperbeam or Solarbeam

Solrock lvl 16
Safegaurd
Flamethrower
Rock Tomb
Facade

Graveler lvl 39
Selfdestruct
Block
Defense Curl
Protect

Ninjask lvl 20
Hidden Power
Rreturn
Giga Drain
Secret Power

i wanted to know what you guys would tihnk of this before i go and buy all of this stuff

shanecdavis June 15th, 2006 12:15 PM

I think you need to re-read the suggestions you have been given about movesets, make those changes, and then please post your corrected team again. Apparently I wasted a lot of time rating your first team. Duely noted.

Pandoras Box June 15th, 2006 12:19 PM

i know but what do you tihnk of the team i just made

White Lotus June 15th, 2006 2:12 PM

SSSSSSSZZZZZZZTTTTTTTT KaBOOOOOOOMMMMMMM

That sound you just heard was my mind being blown.

shanecdavis June 15th, 2006 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras Box
i know but what do you tihnk of the team i just made

Well, considering you just disregarded all of my previous suggestions and are making the same mistakes, I will just say I don't think the team is very good an leave it at that.

White Lotus June 15th, 2006 2:41 PM

Please put facade on swellow <eye twitches> It gets stab + guts + plus double power, if you predict a thunder wave, poison, or burn. If you really predict well strap a choice band on em and send the women and children to bed. "Believe It!" Credit to enyce for starting a thread about it.

Toothache June 16th, 2006 1:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Lotus
I've never used a lot of the pokes in your party so this is just general advice but don't use all the same type of moves on your pokes. Give swellow facade because it'll combine with guts if your poisoned, burned, or paralyzed and do hella damage. Your blaziken has 3 fire moves change 2 of them to thunderpunch and rock slide. Change rock smash to sky uppercut or another harder hitting fighting move you like. I'd make this one...

Blaziken - (HASTY or NAIVE) 'Blaze' w/Salac Berry
EV's - Smogon says spd 264<that's lv 100 total> I'd max spd and att (overheat + blaze)
- Substitute (Endure)
- Focus Punch (Sword Dance)
- Reversal
- Overheat

The first is more general since you can sub-punch your hp down but the second is the sexier sweeper, just sword dance while the enemy hits you endure when you're low and let the reversals begin. Overheat is to take care of skarm types who'll mess up your sweeping fun. I really wanna try this guy out now!!! I wish i had picked him instead of sceptile, and to think if i had xd when i started i could have gotten all 3 starters. I have 87 rare candies and i might actually trade them 1 by 1 to my xd game and start over just to get swampert and blaziken because i got starter envy.:embarrass

Either use Sub-FPunch or Sub-reversal, not both on the same set. Figure in all-purpose move like Earthquake or Rock Slide to hit stuff that resist both.

White Lotus June 16th, 2006 11:38 AM

Thanks tooth, i never used it but i was gonna use the sword dance / endure set. I was suggesting the sub-punch one cause it's easier to set up but your right eq or rock slide would be better in that set than reversal. Now onto the problem of finding a torchic.

Latios&Latias381382 June 19th, 2006 1:49 AM

the main thing you should improve on is your PKMN's Levels I mean you have an Lv.100 and a Lv.28 unless you are currently training the lv.28 Swellow I would rate it about 5/10 (im talkin about the first one) well thats what I have to say

Lord Mike June 19th, 2006 3:48 AM

That's just sad what you did to your Graveler. Block stinks because they never switch out in-game. Defense Curl stinks because its a total waste of time. Protect does nothing in-game.

Demonta June 19th, 2006 11:36 AM

Your team does need to have it's levels balanced properly, without your blaziken , your team will be mincemeat in the league. And they aren't even hard. Think about the moves you are using. A graveler with 3 stats ups and 1 attacking move that kills yourself, you would have troubles killing a lvl 2! LITERALLY!

Lord Mike June 19th, 2006 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonta
Your team does need to have it's levels balanced properly, without your blaziken , your team will be mincemeat in the league. And they aren't even hard. Think about the moves you are using. A graveler with 3 stats ups and 1 attacking move that kills yourself, you would have troubles killing a lvl 2! LITERALLY!

Lol. You made it seem very funny! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras Box
Swellow lvl 28
Quick Attack
Facade/Return/Secret Power
Aerial Ace
Steel Wing

Masquerain lvl 35
Rain Dance
Sunny Day
Attract
Thief

Masquerain stinks.

Delcatty lvl 29
Thunder
Shockwave
Attract
Hyperbeam or Solarbeam

Delcatty stinks.

Solrock lvl 16
Safegaurd/Filler
Flamethrower
Rock Slide
Facade

Graveler lvl 39
Explosion
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Double-Edge

Ninjask lvl 20
Swords Dance
Return
Aeriel Ace
Silver Wind


FinalTreecko781 June 21st, 2006 2:22 PM

um one question WHY ARE YOU USING SWELLOW ANYWAY? there are much better flying pokemon.ok im just going to rate the second team.why are you useing rain dance and sunny day? you should lose those and get some attacks.well thats masquerain. delcattys standard i guess but get hyper beam.solrock and ninjask are ok. gravler needs rollout instead of selfdestuct.i think.

Lord Mike June 21st, 2006 2:55 PM

How many times do we have to meantion this to noobs? Hyper Beam stinks. This enough said.

Fr0st June 21st, 2006 4:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalTreecko781
um one question WHY ARE YOU USING SWELLOW ANYWAY?
there are much better flying pokemon.ok im just going to rate the second team.why are you useing rain dance and sunny day? you should lose those and get some attacks.well thats masquerain. delcattys standard i guess but get hyper beam.solrock and ninjask are ok. gravler needs rollout instead of selfdestuct.i think.

Final treecko your rate was terrible tbh... Learn to play then rate other teams.
1.Swellow is an amazing pokemon with CB and guts and stab facade and 120 base speed...
2.The right question is why are you using masquerian
3.Hyper Beam is for noobs
4.Rollout sucks

And Sorry guy with the posted team but prolly no1 decent will rate your team because...

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanecdavis
I think you need to re-read the suggestions you have been given about movesets, make those changes, and then please post your corrected team again. Apparently I wasted a lot of time rating your first team. Duely noted.

Don't ignore what he said cause he is right

Toothache June 22nd, 2006 1:22 AM

Swellow's base speed is 125, which means you can the jump on most fast sweepers in the 120s like Alakazam, Dugtrio and Sceptile.

Fr0st June 22nd, 2006 11:32 AM

Well thats why its all the more better=P
I'm aloud to make mistakes


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