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Why does everyone suggest I dont use Facade on swellow
Almost everyone I talk to about pokemon. Tell me Facade sucks. That I should replace it with the likes of. Steel wing, Quick attack etc.
I keep telling them that with Guts and STAB. Seeing Facades base power becomes 140 when you are inflicted with a status condition. Its almost like hyper beam without the recharge. Then when I tell em that. They chaange the subject. |
Facade is a VERY weak attack, unless your opponent paralyzes your Swellow or poisons it etc. Facade is not that strong.
But if you are one of those guys that waste turns playing X Attack or somethings similiar to it, then go for it. |
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70 base power is the Maximum for Hidden power. You dont see people calling it "very weak". Swellow is the only Guts pokemon that can STAB from facade. Facade is not meant to be an all time offensive. Especially if you have three other moves to choose from. |
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Facade has a base power of 45. i am looking at it right now on my cacturne.
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Its base power of 70... Stop posting if u don noe tbh
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I say steel wing is way better
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Facade > Steel Wing.
Especially on Swellow. |
I am looking right now on my game and it says Pwr 45 Acc 100 pp 20 i am reading that off my game right now.
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*Reads off his gameboy.*
Type: Normal Power: 70 Accuracy: 100 PP: 20 Dunno what game you're playing, but you're wrong. |
What is with this guy. earth to soilder2021 earth to soilder2021, facade has 70 power.
And besides its great on swellow. |
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Facade has 70 BP, ask anyone, look anywhere. And if you still don't get it, you're either really dumb or just a flamer. Both options are bad. |
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Soldier, please stop posting nonsense like that. Facade has a base power of 70, and when the user gets statused, it DOUBLES to 140, making it almost as strong as Hyper Beam without the turn loss. ~*^*~~*^*~ ~*^*~ ~*^*~ ~*^*~~*^*~ |
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(((45 Base x 2) x 1.5) x 1.5) = 202.5 |
why would anyone even try to staus swellow? it will just get met straight up with Skarmory/Steelix/<insert physicla walls here>
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on my Pokemon Ruby it says it has 45 power, my brothers Sapphire says the same thing. (edited to include:) but on my brothers Emerald it does say 70. but on our Ruby and Sapphire versions it says 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by soldier2021 I am looking right now on my game and it says Pwr 45 Acc 100 pp 20 i am reading that off my game right now. Originally Posted by Rubberbandman Even IF it had a power and accuracy like that it is still great on swellow with a status condition. (((45 Base x 2) x 1.5) x 1.5) = 202.5 True, above i stated " [unless] your opponent paralyzes your Swellow or poisons it etc. Facade is not that strong. But if you are one of those guys that waste turns playing X Attack or somethings similiar to it, then go for it." Originally Posted by aragornbird Quote:
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http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7434/pokemonemeraldu011xe.png Thats my Swellow on a Emerald rom. |
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(edited to include: Hey enyce tell me how to put your gameboy images on the computer please, i will prove to you my Cacturnes Facade has 45 POWER. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by enyce Quote:
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The only way I think you could really prove it is. To take a photo of your gameboy and scan it online. Or take it with a webcam or something. I did a screen capture. |
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i just took some pics with my digital camera,,,, i just gotta find the cord to download it to my comp, i am trying to make the least glare images as i can. hey i hope you don't mind but... i gotta wait for my older brother to come back home before i can download the images, he had the cord. |
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hey check this forum tomorrow, i will upload the images of my Cacturne, my bro will not be home until about 9:30-10 p.m. i will have the images uploaded by tomorrow. AND I WILL PROVE TO YOU MY GAME SAYS 45 |
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Mullet steps into this now; soldier2021 stfu you have no idea what you are talking about stop posting and we all will be happy. Thanks bai. ^_^
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It would be interesting to see a picture of this though....
Still, I've never really used Facade myself...but whatever works, I guess.. |
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