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Lunanai June 27th, 2006 11:06 AM

Master: Origins
 
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-------27TH June 2006-------
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Today is the first release of Pokémon Master series. First set in this series is called «Master: Origins». The set will after all have 60 cards (including 3 ex cards, 1 shining, 1 boxtopper and 1 reward card).

3 Kanto starters are today released in their ex non-holofoil versions. Notice that normal Pokémon alphabet rule will not be applied in Master series. Although these ex's couldn't present that, «Master» edition will bring some brand new tricks into Pokémon game. That includes 2 new Special Conditions, new type of Trainer cards, Reward cards (similar to «winner» cards; nothing special) and probably a new type of Pokémon: Master. Since it is not completely sure how Master Pokémon will work in the game, it will remain unsaid until it is completely sure.

The procedure of creating the illustrations (for ex cards) includes taking snapshots from Pokémon anime series, drawing the lines over the original as new layer and repainting within the lines all over again. The backgrounds are taken from deviantART with some effects added. Since it was too long to write all that in illustrations, and I spent a lot of time doing these, I took the credit for the pictures (well, not me actually. I'm not Sherry).

«Master: Origins» are expected to be released in late July \ early August. Before that happens, spoilers of the set will be released. And this is the structure of each set that will be released in Master series:

6 Holo Rare Pokémon
6 Rare Pokémon
12 Uncommon Pokémon
18 Common Pokémon
12 Trainer Cards
3 ex Pokémon
1 shining Pokémon
1 boxtopper Pokémon
1 reward Pokémon
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TOTAL: 60 cards

All this with the possibility of parallel set of Master Pokémon. Also, it is not certain if foil cards will be made at all (since I dislike foil cards)


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Also, I would appreciate any help with pointing out the mistakes. My weakness is english grammar, official Poké-language (although I do try) and balancing the attacks\powers etc. Placings should be right (although not completely according to Fangking's tutorial).

And please, also be aware that these cards are not supposed to be combined with the original Pokémon cards. There are too many of them, so I couldn't watch if there is some combination fake+original that would be totally broken.

Also, I'm a very hard-working person, so be sure that when I get involved into something, I'll get it done. I don't like unfinished projects.

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credits for the illustrations:

Venusaur ex (55\60)
Snapshot: "island of the giant pokémon" (episode 17)
Background: AikawarazuAi ("7:00 -pine tree view-"; deviantART)

Charizard ex (56\60)
Snapshot: "island of the giant pokémon" (episode 17)
Background: pmckenzie ("Volcano"; deviantART)

Blastoise ex (57\60)
Snapshot: "island of the giant pokémon" (episode 17)
Background: SteveCampbell ("Beach"; deviantART)

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SET LIST:
HOLO RARE (6)
01/Butterfree
02/Arcanine
03/Dewgong
04/Electrode
05/Machamp
06/Gengar

RARE (6)
07/Beedrill
08/Ninetales
09/Poliwrath
10/Raichu
11/Dugtrio
12/Alakazam

UNCOMMON (12)
13/Ivysaur
14/Charmeleon
15/Wartortle
16/Metapod
17/Growlithe
18/Seel
19/Voltorb
20/Machoke
21/Haunter
22/Kakuna
23/Poliwhirl
24/Kadabra

COMMON (18)
25/Bulbasaur
26/Charmander
27/Squirtle
28/Caterpie
29/Growlithe
30/Seel
31/Voltorb
32/Machop
33/Gastly
34/Weedle
35/Vulpix
36/Vulpix
37/Poliwag
38/Pikachu
39/Pikachu
40/Diglett
41/Diglett
42/Abra

TRAINER (12)
43/Trainer
44/Trainer
45/Trainer
46/Trainer-Stadium
47/Trainer-Stadium
48/Trainer-Stadium
49/YET TO DECIDE
50/YET TO DECIDE
51/YET TO DECIDE
52/YET TO DECIDE
53/YET TO DECIDE
54/YET TO DECIDE

EX (3)
55/Venusaur ex
56/Charizard ex
57/Blastoise ex

SHINING (1)
58/YET TO DECIDE

BOX TOPPER (1)
59/YET TO DECIDE

REWARD (1)
60/YET TO DECIDE

Cipher 2008 June 27th, 2006 12:41 PM

As said elsewhere, I think these are very good card, though the fonts seem wrong. Otherwise, yes, very good. I especially like your attacks and the illustrations. 8/10.

QFred June 27th, 2006 12:59 PM

Awesome cards, I like what you done to the snapshots, especially on Venusaur!!

The fonts and the wording are your biggest problem but, even if you don't get then better, you'll get a very good set if you progress like this!!

8/10

Lunanai June 27th, 2006 1:10 PM

i rly don't understand what you think is wrong with fonts.
fonts are downloaded from pokemonpalace,
and I've followed Fanking's tutorial.

Maybe you guys think it's weird because it's 10pt size,

but if someone sees what the real problem is (what am I doing wrong),
then I will change it asap.
but, otherwise, I cannot improve.:(

Cipher 2008 June 27th, 2006 1:31 PM

Do you use Adobe Photoshop?

It's only the HP font, and the font for attack description. Everything else is fine, it's just those that look a bit odd. Nothing serious.

QFred June 27th, 2006 1:31 PM

Which program do you use???

Now, compare the fonts to a real card or another fake.

Cipher 2008 June 27th, 2006 1:36 PM

I think the problem with the HP is it's Gill Sans. Or so I think, but that doesn't look like Futura to me...

And the attacks just have a slight sizing problem, methinks.

Lunanai June 27th, 2006 1:40 PM

Adobe Photoshop CS2.

HP is Futura LT Medium\Bold (size 19)
I'm just looking at it in Photoshop.
I don't think he would lie to me.

cause I would really like to fix whatever is wrong before I go on.

Cipher 2008 June 27th, 2006 1:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunanai
I don't think he would lie to me.

Sorry, can you specify who?

If that HP is Futura, there are some sizing issues to be dealt with...it's, how can I put it, vertically challenged. :P It should be longer height-wise.

Lunanai June 27th, 2006 1:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Dash
Sorry, can you specify who?

If that HP is Futura, there are some sizing issues to be dealt with...it's, how can I put it, vertically challenged. :P It should be longer height-wise.

i was refering to the computer :embarrass

i have just realized there's some option:
(anti-aliasing method)
None, Sharp, Crisp, Strong and Smooth
I was using Sharp as default (I dunno why)

do you guys use some other option?
it's right next to size option in Adobe.

Cipher 2008 June 27th, 2006 1:56 PM

Um...what do I use...I think I used Smooth the one time I used Photoshop. Though it might have been none. Just have a play-around with them all and see which looks best. :) The thing with fake card is, they don't have to be exact. Your cards as they are, are all great.

QFred June 28th, 2006 1:52 AM

Set it to none, caue sharp is just strange...

Also, have you followed the tutorial by the letter??

Try to download the symbolsheet form PPN.

Lunanai June 28th, 2006 4:22 AM

I've switched from Sharp to Smooth (None was too weird).
HP looks right now,
but the attack description look kinda strange to me.
(I couldn't find any fake card with that small words to compare)
- although it does look similar to Scizor ex from UF.

I was following Fanking tutorial from word to word in this part (HP, text effect)

Please, look at Venusaur ex (in the thread description).
I did that changes only on Venu and I'll apply it on the others after. (if they are correct)

Fangking Omega June 28th, 2006 7:32 AM

No HP issues on your Venusaur, certainly. It's the right font on the others too, I just daresay it's the edge smoothing effects you've used. I always try Crisp.

Attack descriptions are strange looking because they're too small in font size. Sure it's necessary, but it starts to look awkward when they're too small. Correct fonts, however.

Otherwise, I'm pretty content with that. I like it, cool illustrations! It's a shame you're using Pokebeach's EX blanks, I've never liked what WaterPokemonMaster did to them, PPN's (and my personal released editions) look more realistic. But that's a little niggle of mine.

Great work on the cards, keep it up and I can't wait to see more :D Just try and watch how small you go on your attack effects, and if possible avoid going smaller than you really need to. Good luck with this, you're a very adept faker. :)

QFred June 28th, 2006 7:43 AM

Also, on Blastoise's Poké-Power add this at the end:
Quote:

"This Power can't be used if Blastoise is affected by a Special Condition.

WaterPKMNMaster June 28th, 2006 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fangking Omega
No HP issues on your Venusaur, certainly. It's the right font on the others too, I just daresay it's the edge smoothing effects you've used. I always try Crisp.

Attack descriptions are strange looking because they're too small in font size. Sure it's necessary, but it starts to look awkward when they're too small. Correct fonts, however.

Otherwise, I'm pretty content with that. I like it, cool illustrations! It's a shame you're using Pokebeach's EX blanks, I've never liked what WaterPokemonMaster did to them, PPN's (and my personal released editions) look more realistic. But that's a little niggle of mine.

Great work on the cards, keep it up and I can't wait to see more :D Just try and watch how small you go on your attack effects, and if possible avoid going smaller than you really need to. Good luck with this, you're a very adept faker. :)

*smack attacks*

What do you mean they aren't realistic? They use actual EX borders. The other blanks have simulated, CG generated borders. :p

QFred June 28th, 2006 11:34 AM

Oops... I think you did bad by saying that...

Lunanai June 28th, 2006 12:12 PM

@Fangking Omega
Great. Thanks for the help. I'm glad we figured out the problem.
Crisp and Smooth are almost identical (exact same size; but one is 1 pixel above the other), so I'll stick with Smooth.

Small fonts look strange, I agree- but what can I do? I love Pokémon with many attacks\powers with long effects text. :classic:

regarding blanks- that was the part which I didn't much think of. I have both blanks, didn't compare them really. I thought all of them are the same.

thanx for the compliments. i'll do my best to finish this set.

@QFred
Yup, it should say that also, but I couldn't squeeze in any more text. :( I don't know what to throw out.

PS: all three cards are edited now. yay!
if you come across any more errors, please let me know.

Cerium 2006 June 29th, 2006 6:14 AM

Wow... that's so cool I've changed the sentence I usually use for describing good cards.

Fangking Omega June 29th, 2006 6:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterPKMNMaster
*smack attacks*

What do you mean they aren't realistic? They use actual EX borders. The other blanks have simulated, CG generated borders. :p

Oddly though, the EX borders you scanned look a lot darker than the ones that I own - they're a sorta silvery blue, but yours look really dark. I believe that's because the light of the scanner reflects off them badly, seeing as I've never managed to get a scanned holofoil card to look great. So my borders use the colours from real cards with my PSD holosheet effects for consistency and to get the actual real life colours that the scanner compromises. Just my opinion though :-p

Back to Lunanai's set! I see what you mean about long effects and stuff, it definitely adds more room for creativity. It's just, too much and you get a strange appearance! But it's still the correct font, so I guess I can't criticise :-p oh the irony.

Looking forward to more cards!

Lunanai June 29th, 2006 1:35 PM

thank you all.

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-------30TH June 2006-------
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Partial set list is announced (51\60). Check it at the top of the thread. 6 trainers were left unrevealed, because I still haven't decided if I'll go with Master type of Pokémon (or how exactly will they work). I have some ideas, but I'm having some trouble with balacing them with the other cards. Shining Pokémon, Box topper and Reward card are chosen, but not 100% sure.

Note that some Pokémon will come out as 2 cards. It's because all Pokémon evolutions come in group of three (basic\stage 1\stage 2 or basic\basic\stage 1). Don't ask why. I don't know either. The problem is what will I do with Pokémons that don't evolve. There is a possibility of special set which will contain that kind of Pokémon.

Expect 3 Kanto starters very soon. The illustrations will be "Sherry Adonai"-like again. 2 of them are done allready. And there will not be any problem with sizing this time.

QFred June 30th, 2006 3:09 AM

The set list should be alphabetic and rarity order... check an official american set list for details.

Also, there are several things I would change...

First, Alakazam should be holo. Add more rares and holos. Take out the double basics... Pikachu, Diglett, Vulpix, Voltorb, Poliwag, Seel. Add Pichu and more evolution lines. Take the basics from the uncommons. Add more Pokémon-ex and Pokémon *. tanke the Reward card from thae set... It is a promo...


Overall, you have to fully remake the set list... Think of a plot... Add unused Pokémon like Yanma, Sunkern and stuff... On the plot imaghine places and people for Stadiums and Supporters. I'm not saying the list is bad, I've seen worst...

I hope to see a new list soon... and also new, as cool or cooler cards than those you have shown us.

PS. I saw the previous post clearly after writing this and I say... Don't make the non-evolving Pokeys an issue... and them to the set!! Simple!

Lunanai June 30th, 2006 4:30 AM

alphabetic order is ignored on purpose. it's sorted by the type\rarity
grass\fire\water\electric\fighting\psychic
i find it more appropreate to rank them by type than alphabet.
but, that shouldn't be a problem. it's just numbers.

yup, Alakazam was originally a holo one, but as I was doing 6 set lists in advance, I didn't have any other choice then put Alakazam as rare one in this set. Don't worry if I'll work enough, there will be a holo Alakazam as well.

I can't add Pichu since I'm doing only Kanto region this time. Pichu is in 4th set.
Anyways, this set was carefully planned. It's not just random cards. I did a plan for future sets, so this one had to fit in also.

i didn't want to add more ex's or shinings because I wanted to keep them balanced. I think 3 ex's per 60 cards is good.

so- this is my opinion (and the story):
this set list could look crappy, because there aren't enough cool Pokémon,
but I didn't want to make 1 super-cool set because then after that I wouldn't have enough material to make another sets.
If I wanted to, I could make all ex's and make them excellent and powerfull,
but I wanted to make a set which could be playable in real life.
and that includes a lot of basics which has to be done (although is not as fun as making ex's). I intend to make a lot of cards and then play with them. Not just to look at them and admire.

don't look at this set as one story. I look at it as a first part of a story.
non-evolving Pokés will be made. Just not in this set.

to conclude, I took some freedom in this set (such as alphabetical order or annoying double basics), but playability was my priority,
so I hope you can all find something you like in this set.
and that probably means looking at 10 cool and fun cards and 50 boring ones.

just, when you look at the set list, keep in mind that this is only the beginning. And if this set would have 10 ex's, 5 shinings and all famous Pokémon, then it would be very hard for me to do a second set. It would look crappy comparing to this one.

so, the set list will probably not change,
although I completely agree with you that it's not that good.

QFred June 30th, 2006 6:46 AM

Ok... I get it!!!

Now, it gives me a good reason to say, complete this set!!

Lunanai June 30th, 2006 9:00 AM

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3 new cards added: Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle.

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credits for the illustrations:
Bulbasaur (25\60)
Snapshot: "bulbasaur and the hidden village" (episode 10)
Background: Lizard-luvr27 ("vineyard"; deviantART)

Charmander (26\60)
Snapshot: "charmander the stray pokemon" (episode 11)
Background: orangebutt ("world on fire"; deviantART)

Squirtle (27\60)
Snapshot: "island of the giant pokémon" (episode 17)
Background: larana ("Apple Tree"; deviantART)

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My fav is Charmander. Did I write that "Starter" body good? If you have any suggestions, say so, please.
The fonts don't look strange any more. I hope so.
And it's not like I have no fresh ideas, so i'm copying the bodies, but I thought it would be cool that all starters have "Starter" body.


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