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Lord Mike July 2nd, 2006 5:32 AM

SkarmBliss Team is back
 
I was bored.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 216 HP / 4 Atk / 116 Def / 172 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Substitute

I know I still need to switch out if Zapdos comes out.

Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 156 HP / 168 Atk / 68 Def / 116 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Swords Dance

Swords Dance up while the opponent is sleeping. Body Slam for chance of paralysis and Sludge Bomb for STAB. I wasn't sure about the EVs.

Aerodactyl (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Its just a CBdactyl.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Def / 32 SAtk / 48 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I made this thing quite defensive. It handles Earthquake a lot easier.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Toxic

I was tired of Thunder Wave. It didn't quite work out for me.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 80 Def / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Toxic

It counters Salamence and all of those other guys.

Fr0st July 2nd, 2006 8:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoMama
I was bored.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 216 HP / 4 Atk / 116 Def / 172 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Substitute

Well then don't lead with this... Rest/Toxic over DP to be cool and Max HP and enough for 400 Def with Impish and don't be a noob and give it Sp.Def

Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 156 HP / 168 Atk / 68 Def / 116 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Swords Dance

Why are u making it so defensive... HP>Defenses... Insert Celebi here


Aerodactyl (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Fine watever... Jolly is better

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Def / 32 SAtk / 48 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

No... Defence on Raikou is stupid, ever heard of switching out... More HP and Obviously more Spd

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Toxic

Fine watever

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 80 Def / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Toxic

Use Protect>Surf bcuz thats cooler... 240 HP EVs, everyone knows that... More Defense and less Sdef and Satk

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aragornbird July 2nd, 2006 8:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YoMama
I was bored.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 216 HP / 4 Atk / 116 Def / 172 SDef
Impish Nature
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Substitute

Sp. Defense EVs are useless. Skarm still gets 2KOed by unSTABed Electric attacks no matter how much you put in. And you'll get KOed by Fighting and Rock Attacks much easier, so Skarm loses on both fronts. So max out HP and put a lot into Defense..standard stuff.

Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 156 HP / 168 Atk / 68 Def / 116 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Swords Dance

Venusaur is way bettter at doing this than Vileplume. Also, relying on Body Slam solely for paralysis is a bad idea. Besides, Leech Seed is better.

Aerodactyl (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

I prefer Jolly with 374 Speed, but whatever.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Def / 32 SAtk / 48 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

If you're that afraid of Earthquake, use Reflect. Don't waste your time with Defense EVs. Without Speed, Raikou gets outrun by things that it should've been able to outspeed, like Flygon and Salamence...it can't even outspeed Heracross without Speed EVs, and that's just sad. And without more Sp. Attack, you'll have a harder time killing things, including Swampert who will usually survive an HP Grass.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Toxic

Fine.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 80 Def / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf/Hydro Pump
- Rest

No Toxic. You have an Aromatherapist on your team, so take advantage of that. Too much Sp. Attack. It doesn't need more than 220ish, so move some of those into Attack. Also, most people prefer Hydro Pump as their water move. Swamperts great defenses makes up for its low accuracy.

You’re still not experienced enough with battling to create novelty EV spreads

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Blazemxx July 2nd, 2006 8:43 AM

Four attack EVs on Skarmory is pointless; you should in vest those in Defense. Lead with Swampert or Aerodactyl.

Mullet July 2nd, 2006 10:34 AM

I skimmed over it the team it is lol. Toxic Blissey sucks (it works in Ubers) use Ice Beam or Thunder Wave.

Go with ABs other fixes I didn't look at them but they are most likely the best.

Also Skarmbliss has Machamp weak.

gerudodragon1 July 2nd, 2006 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoMama
I was bored.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 216 HP / 4 Atk / 116 Def / 172 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- rest

wrong nature. try impish. this is something you switch into not open with.:\

I know I still need to switch out if Zapdos comes out.

Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 156 HP / 168 Atk / 68 Def / 116 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- substitute
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Swords Dance

go with 244 HP and 0 Def

Swords Dance up while the opponent is sleeping. Body Slam for chance of paralysis and Sludge Bomb for STAB. I wasn't sure about the EVs.

Aerodactyl (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

good. predictable. but still good.
Its just a CBdactyl.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Def / 32 SAtk / 48 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

bad EVs... how about, 172 HP/ 84 Spd/ 252 SAtk

I made this thing quite defensive. It handles Earthquake a lot easier.<--- that was stupid

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) I'm more of a Calm man, myself.
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Toxic <---- seriously rethink thunderwave.

well normally thunder wave > toxic but if you suck at predicting then...
the only other thing i can think of is the CM set for blissey, i like the standard more but it works too.

@leftovers
-calm mind
-soft boiled
-icebeam
-thunderbolt


I was tired of Thunder Wave. It didn't quite work out for me.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 80 Def / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Toxic

this ones ok

It counters Salamence and all of those other guys.


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Pyrotechnix July 2nd, 2006 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoMama
I was bored.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 216 HP / 4 Atk / 116 Def / 172 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Substitute

Skarmory needn't any Atk, so those 4 EVs ain't doing much. You still definitely need to run Impish > Careful, Skarmory was built to receive physical blows, you have Blissey to take the special hits.

Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 156 HP / 168 Atk / 68 Def / 116 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Swords Dance

Venusaur does a heckuva lot better job of this in OU. About the only up Vileplume gets over Venusaur in OU play is that it has Aromatherapy. And, you get EQ/Leech Seed use with Saur.

Aerodactyl (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

I really prefer this being Jolly instead, but whatever works for you.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Def / 32 SAtk / 48 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

As said before, if that paranoid of EQs, use Reflect > Sub. Raikou's strength is in his speed, and right now he ain't outspeedin' too terribly much at all.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Toxic

Put Counter on this > Toxic.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 80 Def / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Toxic

Protect/Rest/Roar/something better> Toxic.

There just seems to be a lack of real balance on the team, not so much particular weaks.

Mullet July 2nd, 2006 12:31 PM

Actually gerudodragon1 leading with Skarm is cool if you have Duggy on your team.

Also standard Skarm sucks, use SubSkarm.

Synchronize July 2nd, 2006 1:18 PM

Sup Pyro. I see you're back.

Skarmbliss teams usually need a Spinner/Magneton and Gengar/Dusclops, and even then still still suck =/.

Mullet July 2nd, 2006 2:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synchronize
Sup Pyro. I see you're back.

Skarmbliss teams usually need a Spinner/Magneton and Gengar/Dusclops, and even then still still suck =/.

I use Skarmbliss. I suck? ;_;

gerudodragon1 July 2nd, 2006 3:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
Actually gerudodragon1 leading with Skarm is cool if you have Duggy on your team.

Also standard Skarm sucks, use SubSkarm.

all sub deos is slow you down. rest is more useful. I've used sub on skarm before but it hardly came in handy because it was expected and then it gave ppl a turn to switch to the appropriate counter. and when it wasnt expected id sub take a hit and theyd would switch to suicune or sumthing. in such a predicamnt you can switch but all you accomplished was cutting away 1/4 if your HP.

sub skarm is fine but then he would have to drop spikes for toxic.

aragornbird July 2nd, 2006 3:46 PM

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Why would Submory need Toxic? Sub is there to block Rapid Spin and prevent Magneton from killing it, which frees up an extra spot on the team that would normally go to a Ghost type (to block Spikes) or Dugtrio (to kill Magneton). Some Submorys have both Sub and Rest since they already have another Flying sweeper on their team, so a Flying attack on Skarm would be useless.

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gerudodragon1 July 2nd, 2006 4:03 PM

toxic because when they switch out to counter skarm you have your sub up, then they switch to tyraniboah. if you have a sub to take the next hit then you get off 1 attack before you have to either switch or be kicked in the face by tyranitar. if you have toxic then you made the most of that last attack, instead of using DP or something gay and innefective.

but sub is asking for your opponent to switch in and set up, which is ussually foiled by roar but if you toxic then roar then the most that could happen is your sub fading.

Mullet July 2nd, 2006 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerudodragon1
all sub deos is slow you down. rest is more useful. I've used sub on skarm before but it hardly came in handy because it was expected and then it gave ppl a turn to switch to the appropriate counter. and when it wasnt expected id sub take a hit and theyd would switch to suicune or sumthing. in such a predicamnt you can switch but all you accomplished was cutting away 1/4 if your HP.

sub skarm is fine but then he would have to drop spikes for toxic.

You are a gigantic faggot that doesn't know anything about Pokemon.

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers ** Metal Bird
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Spikes
- Substitute
- Whirlwind

I believe that has Rest, Spikes and Sub. Good luck killing it.

Spikes is what Skarm is used for why would you want to take it off for Toxic. You can't stop Aromatherapy you can however stop Rapid Spin.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gerudodragon1
toxic because when they switch out to counter skarm you have your sub up, then they switch to tyraniboah. if you have a sub to take the next hit then you get off 1 attack before you have to either switch or be kicked in the face by tyranitar. if you have toxic then you made the most of that last attack, instead of using DP or something gay and innefective.

but sub is asking for your opponent to switch in and set up, which is ussually foiled by roar but if you toxic then roar then the most that could happen is your sub fading.

I'd rather just lay down Spikes than use Toxic they can switch out and it makes the damage go back down Spikes always has set damage. Toxic just sucks really, it does have a fair amount of use in ubers (considering no one uses Celebi or Bliss or any other type of cleric) but not OU. Plus Boah is so uncommon these days I'm not worried about it, plus it is a sucky Pokemon anyway. Also Sub doesn't say set up on me. It says I win gg.


So basicly you can't beat me in a Pokemon arguement. I have much more experence and better experence than you, I have used SubSkarm agains good players and it works dispite what you may think.

So just stop talking before you make yourself look even more stupid than you already have.

jc_rcw July 2nd, 2006 5:17 PM

You have a hera weak, and that skarm set is pretty much crap, use IMPISH and save the pokemon forest for my ^_^

gerudodragon1 July 2nd, 2006 5:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
You are a gigantic faggot that doesn't know anything about Pokemon.

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers ** Metal Bird
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Spikes
- Substitute
- Whirlwind

I believe that has Rest, Spikes and Sub. Good luck killing it.

Spikes is what Skarm is used for why would you want to take it off for Toxic. You can't stop Aromatherapy you can however stop Rapid Spin.




I'd rather just lay down Spikes than use Toxic they can switch out and it makes the damage go back down Spikes always has set damage. Toxic just sucks really, it does have a fair amount of use in ubers (considering no one uses Celebi or Bliss or any other type of cleric) but not OU. Plus Boah is so uncommon these days I'm not worried about it, plus it is a sucky Pokemon anyway. Also Sub doesn't say set up on me. It says I win gg.


So basicly you can't beat me in a Pokemon arguement. I have much more experence and better experence than you, I have used SubSkarm agains good players and it works dispite what you may think.

So just stop talking before you make yourself look even more stupid than you already have.


this is indeed a very opinionated topic i suppose. and i dont doubt that your better than me at NB but i still would like to play you, it would be fun. I'll be on tommorow if your up to it.

aragornbird July 2nd, 2006 5:46 PM

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Mullet, I’ll have to warn you. You know better than to flame someone on a forum like PC, even if their advice is flawed.

Also, I would like to see this battle, but I have class until 5 PM tomorrow. =(

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Mullet July 2nd, 2006 5:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerudodragon1
this is indeed a very opinionated topic i suppose. and i dont doubt that your better than me at NB but i still would like to play you, it would be fun. I'll be on tommorow if your up to it.

Considering I am rusty and I can still beat you as my team has no weak. Plus why waste my time beating you as I have a life. Or maybe I will battle you with some random team that I feel like putting together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aragornbird
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Mullet, I’ll have to warn you. You know better than to flame someone on a forum like PC, even if their advice is flawed.

Also, I would like to see this battle, but I have class until 5 PM tomorrow. =(

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Warn lol. I knew that was comming.

I will probably not battle this nub. AB enjoys watching nubs lose to random stuff. Plus he goes to Smogon lol.

jc_rcw July 2nd, 2006 5:56 PM

I smell ban imo. I've never seen AB battle so iono.

Mullet July 2nd, 2006 5:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jc_rcw
I smell ban imo. I've never seen AB battle so iono.

I was referring to that gerudodragon fellow.

gerudodragon1 July 3rd, 2006 6:39 AM

please dont percieve my challenge as a test of your authority or your skill at pokemon. I want to play a game with you soley for the purpose of bettering myself.


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