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Blazemxx July 2nd, 2006 9:19 AM

Some U Team I made...
 
Deoxys-F @ Lum Berry
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 252 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Extremespeed
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Psycho Boost

Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 SAtk
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Overheat
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance


Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 196 HP / 128 Atk / 28 Def / 156 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

Exeggutor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 44 HP / 212 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Solar Beam
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Explosion
- Sleep Powder

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP/ 200 Atk/ 16 Def/ 88 Spd
- Explosion
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Meteor Mash

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 54 Def / 204 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Dragon Claw
- Recover
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Mullet July 2nd, 2006 10:28 AM

Fixes in bold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazemxx
Deoxys-F @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 252 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Extremespeed
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Substitute

Psycho Boost on Special Dexoys-F? Bad idea as it can't switch into anything. I see where you're comming from but go with Sub.

Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 SAtk
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Overheat
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

CBGroudon is cooler and better.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Spd / 240 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

I use those EVs and Sub over DP (I am testing Sub atm). Husk told me HP [Bug] is actually better on Skarm in ubers, makes sense and I used it for a while but I am trying Sub.

Exeggutor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 20 HP / 212 Spd / 252 SAtk / 24 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Solar Beam
- Hidden Power [Ice/Fire]
- Explosion
- Sleep Powder

Those are the EVs I used back when I usd this I also used HP [Fire].

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP/ 200 Atk/ 16 Def/ 88 Spd
- Explosion
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Fire]/ Pursuit
- Meteor Mash

Pursuit is also a good option or so I have seen. I have never actually used Meta in Ubers dispite how good he is.

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 54 Def / 204 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Dragon Claw
- Recover
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Maz Speed is better iirc.

Hope this helps.

Pyrotechnix July 2nd, 2006 10:44 AM

I'm gonna second what Mullet says about most of the team fixes...a lot of what I'm gonna say are matter of preference

I prefer physical Deoxys-F myself, but SubPetaya has been known to slap teams like their mother should have, so that's fine there.

When using Swords Dance Groudon, I personally think Salac Berry is cooler, because most things that switch in on Groudon are gonna lay big hits, hits that Lefties really won't do much for, and you can then tailor the EVs to lay down at least 2 SD's before Salac will activate and then go on a sweeping rampage, as sometimes even ES Deoxys can't take it down around the 25% range. CBGroudon is cool like that tho.

Drill Peck Skarm in Ubers is a hit or miss, Sub can work, as can Toxic, or you can use Rest/Sleep Talk/Whirlwind/Spikes, i've used it and it's fun to be able to shuffle in your sleep.

Lack of any real special wall is a huge concern, pretty much anything is able to drop 2 CMs and it's all over for your team. As cool as Eggy is, I think you need to drop something like Bliss or Lax in that slot.

Blazemxx July 2nd, 2006 11:32 AM

Deoxys F is a hit and run Pokemon. Deoxys will switch in and switch out so Petaya Berry is a waste. Hidden power Ice is better as Groudon80 recommended.

Pyrotechnix July 2nd, 2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazemxx
Deoxys F is a hit and run Pokemon. Deoxys will switch in and switch out so Petaya Berry is a waste. Hidden power Ice is better as Groudon80 recommended.

And Lum Berry is doing it much better? Deoxys-F can afford to take almost all statuses except para/burn, (and if you don't know who is gonna para/burn you in ubers stay out of the metagame), since with your MS Extremespeed is only a finishing move and being Toxic'd is just lol on Deoxys-F. SubPetaya not only allows you to stay in instead of hit n' run, it can actually sweep teams as long as you've eliminated their special wall. You could also try Sub/Calm Mind/Ice Beam/Thunder(bolt) @ Petaya for even better sweeping potential, just gotta watch for the rival Deoxys-F. You want a hit and run, go with the physical Shadow Ball/Extremespeed/Rock Slide or Superpower/Fire Punch or Ice Beam @ CB set.

HP Fire was only included as an option by Mullet iirc. HP Ice does work better on your team with Overheat Groudon and HP Fire Latias.

Mullet July 2nd, 2006 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyrotechnix
HP Fire was only included as an option by Mullet iirc. HP Ice does work better on your team with Overheat Groudon and HP Fire Latias.

Thank you Pyro. It is just another option. Also HP [Ice] does work better on this team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazemxx
Deoxys F is a hit and run Pokemon. Deoxys will switch in and switch out so Petaya Berry is a waste.

SubPetaya Dexoys can sweep teams. You really can't switch in Dexoys-F on much anyway you have to have percise prediction.

Lord Mike July 2nd, 2006 3:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazemxx
Deoxys-F @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 252 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Extremespeed
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Psycho Boost

What the heck? Who cares about a Lum Berry! You messed up big time using Thunder too. Groudon's Drought makes the accuracy of Thunder 50%. You'll get OHKO'd if Thunder doesn't hit so I wouldn't take that risk.

Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 SAtk
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Overheat
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

I think Jolly Groudon is pointless, but whatever floats your boat.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 196 HP / 128 Atk / 28 Def / 156 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

I learned from experience that Special Defense EVs aren't beneficial for Skarmory. I'd max out its HP, give it 400 Defense, and put a bit in Attack and maybe even Speed.

Exeggutor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 44 HP / 212 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Solar Beam
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Explosion
- Sleep Powder

HP Fire can work here to get a bonus from the sun.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP/ 200 Atk/ 16 Def/ 88 Spd
- Explosion
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Meteor Mash

I guess this is fine.

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 54 Def / 204 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Dragon Claw
- Recover
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Thunder has a 50% accuracy in the sun. Its most likely it will hit once every two turns. That's a big loss. I'd like you to use Thunderbolt as long as you have Groudon on your team.

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Fr0st July 2nd, 2006 3:30 PM

Oiy YoMama...

1. Thunder is to OHKO Kyogre which I doubt can be done with tbolt
2. Jolly Groudon ROX!!! In ubers the more you outspeed the better
3. Thats exactly what I told you about Skarmory but this is ubers=/

Ok so for your team having shadowball on CBgross is a great thing... Lum berry doesnt work because Deoxys F can't switch in that easily and Petaya is great with max speed and what not... Sub>Overheat on Groudon if you wanna be more careful... [email protected] isnt so great without Safegaurd imo

jc_rcw July 2nd, 2006 4:46 PM

loling. Use safeguard on latias plz or blissers rape you.

Mullet July 2nd, 2006 6:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoMama
I learned from experience that Special Defense EVs aren't beneficial for Skarmory. I'd max out its HP, give it 400 Defense, and put a bit in Attack and maybe even Speed.

This is the uber metagame nub.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr0st
[email protected] isnt so great without Safegaurd imo

Nonsense I use:

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd / 176 SAtk / 80 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Claw
- Recover
- Thunder

I am really cool tbh. Apperently it has an offence nickname as I got warned for it last time. =(

jc_rcw July 2nd, 2006 6:38 PM

It needs safeguard to beat bliss with toxic.

Blazemxx July 2nd, 2006 7:24 PM

Well, I'll use Sub Petaya Deoxys-F because it's cool. Blissey can die to Deoxys because most people don't use Defense EVs on Blissey. Also, I put Lum because I didn't know what to put. New Latias

Latias (M) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 54 Def / 204 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Dragon Claw
- Recover
- Safeguard

Thunder for Kyogre/ Skarmory/ denting Lugia and Ho-oh, Dragon Claw for STAB and [email protected]

jc_rcw July 2nd, 2006 7:27 PM

People do use defense ev's on blissey, it already has enought sp.def.

latios: dragon claw/recover/calm mind/thunder.
latias: dragon claw/recover/caml mind/safeguard.

Mullet July 2nd, 2006 8:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jc_rcw
It needs safeguard to beat bliss with toxic.

No one uses Bliss in ubers anymore. Well actually no one did last time I played. I was the only one.

Lord Mike July 3rd, 2006 4:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
Apperently it has an offence nickname as I got warned for it last time. =(

Do you mean the one that started with cheatin'?

jc_rcw July 3rd, 2006 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
No one uses Bliss in ubers anymore. Well actually no one did last time I played. I was the only one.

Actually Blissers and Skarm are comming back to ubers =(


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