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Lord Mike July 4th, 2006 6:30 PM

I need serious help!
 
I need help with this team. I think it stinks.

Suicune @ Leftovers ** Crystal Clear
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 12 Def / 76 Spd / 64 SAtk / 116 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

I think the moves are standard but the EVs probably need help.

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers ** The Forbiddin
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 192 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rest
- Spikes

What can I say? Skarmory gets boring after a while.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Dope
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 168 HP / 116 Atk / 136 Def / 88 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

I gave up Shadow Ball because Gengar hasn't popped up a lot lately.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Muddy Water
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Atk / 96 Def / 72 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Rock Slide

CurseQuakeSlidePert. I got tired of Ice Beam. They always switch and its really annoying.

Raikou @ Leftovers ** Zappy
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 164 HP / 160 Def / 96 Spd / 88 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I think the set is fine but I just through some EVs out there. I was lazy.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Pixie
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 56 Def / 172 Spd / 16 SAtk / 16 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Psychic
- Recover

Salamence will pay big time.

Fr0st July 4th, 2006 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoMama
I need help with this team. I think it stinks.

Suicune @ Leftovers ** Crystal Clear
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 176 Def / 60 Spd / 16 SAtk / 16 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

With Calm Mind you dun need spdef... Rong lead tbh


Forretress (M) @ Leftovers ** The Forbiddin
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 192 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rest
- Spikes

LOL no rapid spin... then whats the point-_-"

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Dope
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 168 HP / 116 Atk / 136 Def / 88 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

Curselax fails... Fire Blast>Earthquake

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Muddy Water
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Atk / 96 Def / 72 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Rock Slide

Still ice beam has its advatages... 240 HP


Raikou @ Leftovers ** Zappy
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 180 Spd / 140 SAtk / 64 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Dont give it defense...


Celebi @ Leftovers ** Pixie
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 64 Def / 172 Spd / 16 SAtk / 16 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Psychic
- Recover

Yeah this is pretty bad... cant hit the common bi switch ins well but whatever


Mmk... Start with Raikou to counter the common bulky water start

Mullet July 4th, 2006 7:09 PM

My Duggy traps your Raikou and Celebi then it's gg as Skarm walls everything but Cune.

Blazemxx July 4th, 2006 9:36 PM

Swampert should be your lead. Forretress needs Rapid Spin because no one in your team has Levitate or is flying. Double Edge over Return on Snorlax; it has Rest to heal Recoil Damage.

Firebolt5 July 5th, 2006 5:00 AM

Fire Blast is a piss move for Snorlax. Curselax is easily countered these days and don't even get me started on Stalkerlax.

Fr0st July 5th, 2006 6:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebolt5
Fire Blast is a piss move for Snorlax. Curselax is easily countered these days and don't even get me started on Stalkerlax.

Do you even know what you are talking about... Fire Blast is one of the best moves for Snorlax as subskarm has made Skarmory more popular than ever and people don't use Magneton as much. Fire Blast lets you freely Curse up without being afraid of getting phazed

Firebolt5 July 5th, 2006 9:22 AM

Hmmm. I see. Well, whatever.

starmie fighter July 5th, 2006 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebolt5
Fire Blast is a piss move for Snorlax.

pity it isn't.

also how standard and boring do you want your team to be?

Dawson123 July 5th, 2006 4:58 PM

Wow! I always find lots of quarrels everytime I come here. :\

Fire Blast is sort of a waste on Snorlax considering that there's a lot you do with those EVs you're wasting. :\

Fr0st July 5th, 2006 5:32 PM

U onli need 56 EVs and use Sassy nature... That isn't a waiste seeing you counter the number one switch in

Flame Demon July 6th, 2006 5:07 AM

I remember a while back when Curselax and Stalkerlax were the sensations. They might still be, but if you know how to use Fire Blast to your full potential, probably mainly for hitting Forretress and Skarmory, then I say go for it.


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