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Chewie July 5th, 2006 9:35 AM

Hot?
 
Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 1 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 56 Spd / 72 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Reflect
- Thunderbolt
- Wish

Cloyster (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- Substitute

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 116 HP / 188 Def / 108 Spd / 96 SAtk
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Machamp (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- Facade
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 56 SAtk / 60 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave


JirChamp wins obv. But like, I need a phazer bad. =\

jc_rcw July 5th, 2006 9:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewie
Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 1 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

wtf is that random ev in def? .-.

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 56 Spd / 72 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Reflect
- Thunderbolt
- Wish

lol supportjir.

Cloyster (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SAtk
Bold
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- explosion

going boom on stuff is fun, you need more defense.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 116 HP / 188 Def / 108 Spd / 96 SAtk
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

sure.

Machamp (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- Facade
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

four arms.

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 56 SAtk / 60 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave/rest




JirChamp wins obv. But like, I need a phazer bad. =\

Heracross weak @[email protected], also yeah phazer/hazer.

Lathspell July 5th, 2006 1:24 PM

Cloyster is just a bad tank, switch it to Suicune, as it can act as a tank/hazer and he just plain rocks. Or the standard Skarm, Forry or Weezing. Your choice. Cloyster has the defense, but it's weak to fighting?!? that's not really good. And it only has 50 base HP, which is really deadly for the poor guy...

Edit: My mistake, just checked that.

It's Just Fufu July 5th, 2006 1:39 PM

Cloyster isn't weak to Steel becuz it has a Water-type... just pointing that out.

jc_rcw July 5th, 2006 1:43 PM

Cloyster is pretty good actually, you spike up, and blow up on suicune D:.

Lathspell July 5th, 2006 1:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jc_rcw
Cloyster is pretty good actually, you spike up, and blow up on suicune D:.

I never saw the fact of blowing up a tank a good thing...that's why I generally don't use Forry. Once your tank is down, you're vulnerable to physical attacks. Skarm for example does the same thing only doesn't have to blow up. IMO of course.

jc_rcw July 5th, 2006 2:16 PM

Again blowing up does some mayor damage, then you just kill the thing. Yeah skarm does the same, but cloyster is fun.

Lord Mike July 5th, 2006 4:35 PM

I usually get Cloyster to 485 Defense with Bold Nature and max out HP and put the rest in Special Attack.

Dawson123 July 5th, 2006 4:37 PM

It does need more Defense and less Special Attack.

Chewie July 5th, 2006 6:12 PM

Alright, thanks. I'm not using Forry, then I'd be ****ed over by Fire.

Hera weak isn't all that bad though cause it's not used much for an OU imo now.

But thanks man. I might do Suicune over Cloy.

Can I get a moveset with EV's for it? I usually just sweep with CalmCune. :\

Lathspell July 5th, 2006 9:30 PM

Suicune (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 24 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

CMCune with the EVs I'm currently using (don't know where they're from, but I suspect Mullet :)). It's really the only kind of Cune.

TwinScythe July 6th, 2006 1:53 AM

without that cune Metagross will just shred on this
also sub on regice is rather pointless

come to mention a raikou can **** on this as that regice carries no recovery

Chesters_love July 6th, 2006 4:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewie
Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 1 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
-wing attack
-flamethrower
-dragon claw

-dragon dance


Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 56 Spd / 72 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Doom desire/calm mind
- Thunderbolt
- Wish

Cloyster (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
-
- Spikes
- water pulse

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 116 HP / 188 Def / 108 Spd / 96 SAtk
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Machamp (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- thunder punch/ice punch/fire punch
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 56 SAtk / 60 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- psych up(i erased it on acident)
- anceint power
- zap cannon


JirChamp wins obv. But like, I need a phazer bad. =\






fixes in bold.
only thing i have to say is this:
salamence was a big mess,brick break?try flamethrower

Toothache July 6th, 2006 4:01 AM

I don't think you have much idea what you are talking about. Post when you know, ok? Don't just throw random moves together, explain why.

Towlie July 6th, 2006 6:39 AM

Salamence is fine.

I like how you give it all those special moves with Dragon Dance and Choice Band.

Flame Demon July 6th, 2006 7:02 AM

Gold Typhlosion doesn't know what to do in the metagame. Just stop rating in my opinion. You're setting a bad example for them. You don't use DD with CB smart one. Machamp has sucky special attack. Regice sucks with physical attacks. Do I need to go on?

Pax Deorum July 6th, 2006 8:00 AM

Bold Cloyster sucks jc.
Ignore Gold Typhlosion. You obviously don't know a gimmick when you see one.

Flame Demon July 6th, 2006 9:28 AM

Bold Cloyster sucks if you're using Explosion that's for sure.


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