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nicholai-suraci July 10th, 2006 4:15 AM

First netbattle team 2vs2-Uncertain evs
 
Okay:

Scizor-edge
Careful-252 hp,142 def,116 sp def
Agility(for Killer metagross)
Silver wind
Aerial ace
Baton pass

Umbreon-Moonchild
Relaxed-252 hp,124 def,132 sp def
Meanlook
taunt
wish
Batonpass

Flygon-Helios
Hasty-252 atk, 172 spd, 86 sp atk
Earthquake
rockslide
Quickattack
Fireblast

Tyrannitar-Lady Pain
Quiet-252 hp,132 atk,126 sp atk
Substitute
Focus punch
Thunderbolt
Crunch

Metagross-Killbot 813
Adament-252 atk,252 spd, 4 hp
Shadowball
Explosion
Earthquake
Meteor mash

Gengar-Shamen
Timid-252 sp atk,252 spd
Destiny bond
Hypnosis/Willow wisp
Ice punch
Thunder bolt

I start with my passers then with any combiation of the last 4 that all work together.please dont eat me im still only getting the hang of evs.

Fr0st July 10th, 2006 4:21 AM

On netbattle when you have team builder open. Go to File then Export to Text and you can get a written version of your team that is much easier to rate...

Flame Demon July 10th, 2006 4:29 AM

Bold or Impish on Umbreon since you have no attack moves.

I like McIceGar and TriGar better than the Gengar you have but whatever.

nicholai-suraci July 10th, 2006 4:41 AM

[QUOTE=Fr0st]On netbattle when you have team builder open. Go to File then Export to Text and you can get a written version of your team that is much easier to rate...[/QUOTE

Thanks for the tip that would have been much easier

Scizor (M) @ Leftovers ** Edge
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Agility
- Baton Pass
- Silver Wind

Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers ** MoonChild
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Baton Pass
- Mean Look
- Taunt
- Wish

Flygon (F) @ Choice Band ** Helios
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 172 Spd / 86 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Quick Attack
- Rock Slide

Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers ** Lady Pain
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Atk / 126 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Metagross @ Leftovers ** Killbot 83
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers ** Shamen
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Destiny Bond
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

Toothache July 10th, 2006 4:42 AM

This looks more like a 1 v 1 team set up. And you want to use these for 2 v 2s?

Ok first off. Baton Passing or attempting to BP is just asking for both of your opponents Pokemon to target that one. If you really want to attempt a BP chain, use Follow Me to offer some protection while you set up. IMO it's not really worth it for 2 v 2.

Think about Protect, especially for the non-fliers, otherwise you'll suffer from both teams getting attacked from Earthquake and similar moves. In fact, Protect is an option on pretty much every Pokemon in 2 v 2, as a general rule. If you can draw one or both attacks while Protecting, it helps you with your non-protecting Pokemon attacking.

Have a rethink, and I'd lose Umbreon for something who can attack. 2 v 2 is all about getting the combos as quickly as possible, and you can't stall as much when your opponent is throwing 2 attacks per round.

Flame Demon July 10th, 2006 5:00 AM

I have to agree. BPing is not worth it. I mean, Earthquake and Explosion will ruin your plan big time and TrapPassing is stupid in 2 vs. 2.

nicholai-suraci July 10th, 2006 5:08 AM

oh okay back to the drawing bord then,il star anew
by the way thanks

Flame Demon July 10th, 2006 5:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicholai-suraci
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr0st
On netbattle when you have team builder open. Go to File then Export to Text and you can get a written version of your team that is much easier to rate...

Thanks for the tip that would have been much easier

Scizor (M) @ Leftovers ** Edge
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Agility
- Baton Pass
- Silver Wind

Swords Dance>Aeriel Ace please.

Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers ** MoonChild
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Baton Pass
- Mean Look
- Taunt
- Wish

You know the deal. Chaosbreon sucks in 2 vs. 2.

Flygon (F) @ Choice Band ** Helios
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 172 Spd / 86 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Quick Attack
- Rock Slide

Whatever.

Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers ** Lady Pain
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Atk / 126 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Its good. I like the nickname BOAH BOAH BOAH.

Metagross @ Leftovers ** Killbot 83
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball

Thunderpunch if you want to take on Skarmory or Rock Slide. I'm just throwing moves out there.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers ** Shamen
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Destiny Bond
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

McIceGar IMO.

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Flamman July 11th, 2006 10:02 AM

the only thing i'dd change, is the entire umbreon idea, ande giving it one offensive move, in case it is your last pokemon.

aragornbird July 11th, 2006 5:06 PM

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The only people who had something constructive to say in this thread are Frost and Toothache. Flame Demon, it seems that you are unfamiliar with 2 vs. 2 so please don’t post anything. You don’t have to reply to every single thread in this forum.

Flamman’s advice wasn’t helpful (but that’s no surprise since it rarely is).

Metagross @ Lum Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Agility

Gengar (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt/Protect
- Explosion
- Skill Swap/Swagger

Start with these two Pokemon. They are the only pair on your team who work exceptionally well in 2 vs. 2. For both Gar and Gross, you'll want Explosion. But don't Explode right away. Check if your opponent uses Protect first and use your non attacking moves like Agility or Skill Swap during the first turn. Skill Swap on Metagross is quite fun since it'll be immune to Earthquake with Levitate. You can also Swagger it so that it gets a double Attack but no confusion because of Lum Berry. Sweep if you can, and if you get stuck, Explode. Again, remember to check for Protect.

Other good pairs (I can't give EVs for all of them, because my NB sometimes doesn't work on my mom's crappy laptop, which is my only computer at summer school).

Rain Dancing:

Zapdos @ Lum Berry/Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Timid or Modest Nature
- Rain Dance
- Thunder
- Light Screen/Protect
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Ludicolo @ Lum Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 148 HP / 108 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Giga Drain/Surf/Protect
- Fake Out

Fake Out whichever opponent is the biggest threat, and have Zapdos Rain Dance. Then sweep. Protect helps against Explosion while Light Screen is good against other Rain Dancing pairs.

Sunny Day:

Moltres @; Lum Berry/Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature
- Sunny Day
- Fire Blast
- Protect/Heat Wave
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Shiftry @ Lum Berry
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 120 Atk / 136 Spd / 252 SAtk
Mild Nature
- Solar Beam
- Hidden Power [Ice]/Protect
- Fake Out
- Explosion

Same as above, except with Sunny Day and Shiftry can Explode when in trouble.

Charizard @Salac Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP/ 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Substitute
-Belly Drum
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide/Hidden Power [Flying]

Clefable @Leftovers
Trait: Cute Charm
Bold Nature
-Follow Me
-Protect
-Softboiled
-Thunder Wave

BellyZard. Get Clefable to Follow Me twice while you Substitute and then Belly Drum. Clefable should Protect when Charizard Earthquakes. Watch out for Rock Slides from Aerodactyl as well as Pokemon with Fake Out.

Salamence @Lum Berry
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/ 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Hidden Power [Flying]
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Protect

Gyarados @Lum Berry
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/ 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Hidden Power [Flying]
-Earthquake
-Return/Thunder Wave
-Protect

Double Intimidate plus double Earthquake without damaging each other. The good thing about this is that it doesn't need any setup, you can just start sweeping.

Slaking @Leftovers/Lum Berry
Trait: Traunt
EVs: 4 HP/ 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Return/Double-Edge
-Earthquake
-Shadow Ball
-Slack Off/Protect

Dusclops @Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 SDef
Bold Natuire
-Skill Swap
-Icy Wind
-Protect
-Helping Hand

Skill Swap Traunt away from Slaking so that it can attack every turn. Then Skill Swap Traunt onto one of your opponents. Icy Wind slows both opponents down, making it easier for Slaking to sweep. And it can always get an extra boost from Helping Hand.
You can even add a third step to this combo and Skill Swap Pure Power from Medicham and then Swap it onto Slaking. But it takes a lot of set up and can fail more easily.

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