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Pokémon Diamond partial "premake"/ Graphics to hack over
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http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8990/dbxd8.png .:: Hack of ::. Pokémon Ruby .:: Introduction ::. Well it’s self explanatory, it’s basically a patch with D/P that I’ll allow people to hack over, it’s not going to be perfect because ruby cannot handle those sorts of graphic palettes. I may also add what I think the first few towns will look like. .:: Story ::. [quote] None, only that it will be the start of Diamond and Pearl’s. You can make your own story if you want to hack over this, although I would like the credit leaving in the first screen. It’s basically two things in one:
.:: Features ::. ·New Maps ·You can hack over it so you can use similar to Diamond and Pearl graphics ·Main characters inserted ·Some of the new Pokemon ·New scripts where needed .: Downloads::. Alpha 1: Status: No event editing. Warps have been moved to appropriate doors non added, no removed. There is no in game text editing. Can go up to the second town. No scripting. Naetoru IS in the game. My old Diamond sprte is in as I lost my old one down to virus' but I'll replace that Graphics of the main tileset are about 40% done... Alpha name: "Special Pre D/P taster edition" The lab is in the top right hand building of futaba - [first town] and contains the pokemon bag, this is temporary until I do the scripting. Right I'll have everyone know that I wouldn't normally release this, but with the date being what it is, I think it's best. Some mapping is a bit off for instance when in Futaba and going on to the first route it overlaps on the trees. But it will give you the feel of D/P. The girl overworld is not finished and the male forward walking is not too great, but I'll reupload when this is done. http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/839/dwnlduh6.png .::Video::.[RUBY Patch USA] Alternative download attached to the bottom of this post Naetoru patch: http://www.theud.com/pokecommunity/attachment.php?attachmentid=34978&d=1157305622 [I've been getting reports that this doesn't work anymore so it's includd in the Alpha release] click above to go to the download http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/418/titlescj6.pnghttp://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9863/nanaty4.pnghttp://i11.*.com/4bh37dt.png Credit to D-Man, Gridiron and closetman341 for this proffessor sprite. And thanks to "fedex" for inserting it - my TLP messes up for some reason I'm really greatful for this http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/4540/naetorurm3.pnghttp://img214.imageshack.us/img214/69/back2il3.pnghttp://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2056/introthing8nq.png http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3382/pearlnm1.pnghttp://img123.imageshack.us/img123/650/gameas7.png http://i12.*.com/2wohcfn.pnghttp://i12.*.com/2dl259t.pnghttp://i12.*.com/2rh4em8.png (Note about far right image, tiles are missing and the trainer will be removed) http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7880/gameeft5.png http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8352/gamenw3.png http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7084/game2bd4.png .:: Other ::. Banners by me: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6534/dpneewcopy22ps.png Location: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6534/dpneewcopy22ps.png http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/746/suppre8.png Location: http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/746/suppre8.png Comments please. |
Nice screen shots i think the release beta should be released without the new house's for the time xD
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This is gonna be...interesting... How bout making a banner for this??
Something like this: http://www.freewebs.com/kingofgames300g/D_P%20Makeover.gif I animated it to "glow" If you like it, you have permission to use it, ok?? |
Hmm.... It looks like it will be okay, but you should try to make sprites of the buildings and add them in.... Theres some somewhere around here, but I can't find them.... x_x
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looks great cant wait to use it ill see if my friends want to make a game out of it.
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Wow, very nice hack
Although I never really liked the Neon Grass in D/P XD |
I made one of the houses..... The colors are messed up since I used a few colors from some pokemon, but they're easily editable..... you can put this into your game if you know how....
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/Vipershark/D-PBuilding.png Edit away.... (The game looks great so far.... I can't wait to play!) :P |
This looks interesting, I'll have to keep an eye out for this hack!
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Well glad you all like it, the house I'm gonna use for the main one is
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2619/house0gh.png but with better shading etc. and in it's real palette, I'm having a little trouble inserting it, as of repointing it UNLZ keeps freezing, even when I do the door it'll probably have to be reduced in size - but by the way don't steal it Thanks for the banner by the way, I'll give it a miss, but others can use it if the feel like advertising with it if kingofgames300g agrees,I might make some of my own but Wolt gives a good point. Oh and vipershark, I might include it in Littleroot's. Thanks. More later. Wolt, ur right over the proportions, the trees take up 3 tiles. |
Looks good, but why don't you make the buildings the correct view?
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looks cool. I can't wait to play it.
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finally someone took up this idea, well im waiting for this one it should be real good, good luck
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While this looks interesting, I'm starting to wonder why you can't wait for the real game? In any case, I'll have to check this out....
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...Hi!
I have to congratulate you. No one tried to do this, and now, when you did this, just nearly everybody wants to criticise, but I like it. If you need help with walking overworld sprites of male hero, just tell me and I'll try to do that. But, I need to see all sprites of hero. Enjoy hack making ;) |
U serious that we can use this hack for hacking ourselfs O_O u rock man ;) anyway it looks great ;)
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Dude you are awesome! But how are you gonna do a hack of a game we barely know about? Well Its not my place to ask. I wish you the best of luck hope it turns out great(and not sold illegaly in China)
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Wow, very inserting.......
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Edit: Has anyone got any requests, like in the beta do you want a script with 3 starters or whatever. Also I've updated my first post and attached my title music below |
Looking really good Green Charizard ^_^. Glad I helped :D
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This looks really good, Hope you do a good job finishing it
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The title music is nice!! I like it!! YOU MUST FINISH THIS!!! P.S: what are the starters gonna be?? the same as before?? You should have a poll for the starters. After the poll for when the beta release will be... Just suggesting. |
Well again, I'm glad you all like it and the music
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Also I corrected the walking. Still seems a little wierd when walking forwards, but not as much. Also heres my spite off the diamond: Quote:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2056/introthing8nq.png Updated into first post also Edit- looks as though I'm releasing it before the houses as of the vote so far, but remember I will try and do one with houses after the first copy. |
it looks like his legs aren't longer than his body O_o looks weird somehow
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His head's a bit too big.
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It should look more like this, I editted your sprite sorry*
http://www.freewebs.com/blazichu/dp33ys.png |
great work green charizard
it looks like you makin a rombase for us i will make another rombase for all you but whit other tiles other pokemons and of course paletts |
Ok, I'll thicken out his legs if you like. I don't mind you editing my sprite at all. All I did to make it was by going over a picture of the size comparison. Also the new screens released will help with the battle editing. It should be easier to do then the old ones.
Any better, he seemed to big? So I made him Brendan's size http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/3850/dptrainercard2sr.png Also I'm having a bit of trouble getting on to this site, I keep getting the database error after 6 (GMT) I'll do some work later, very busy at the moment. |
Wow this is looking awesome.
I can't wait to see the houses, but will they be difficult to implement, considering the angle that D/P has. The Diamond Sprite however, seems a bit off. It's mostly the arms and waist, but there are other small things too (such as his bag). @ Blazichu: Your sprite looks really out of proportion In addition, have you done any Pearl sprites? |
No I've not done any pearl ones yet, I'm going to continue redoing that sprite so forget it exists. Yeah the houses are hard, considering it keeps freezing upon insertion whilst repointing. More updates later.
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you dont have long to make the hack, the games gonig to be released in two months time in Japan...
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Good point thats why I'm releasing it soon. Anyway, do you really think we're going to be able to hack it straight away. Also I've fixed the sprite for definate. You'll just have to wait for the beta to see it [not too long, I promise]. I've just used the firered pose.
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Are you asking or we are be able to hack D/P ?
Well, first of all, there is no DS Emulator that 'plays' more than a couple of DS Roms and tey are DEMO's! ... So no, .. not as soon they will be on internet... But maybe, one day.. And then it's still hard, I think we need to do everything in hex, because the tiles need more than a normal Mapeditor. Correct me when I'm wrong .. |
I wasn't asking, I was making a point really. But thanks for explaining it, it's because the idea of this thread was to provide people wit a D/p equivalent on GBA, so we could create the games rather than struggling with it, but thanks for explaining it.
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Even if it was disproportionate, that sprite did actually look better. The game looks like it's coming along great. Keep it up.
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Thanks, anyone any preference over starters I'm going to attempt to make the start town in Diamond now coz I feel like it
Edit: "Welcome to Futaba Town, the town that cannot be brightened by any neon grass" http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/6056/futabatown9uk.png |
Is that what the sign says??? lol
I can't wait to see this released. That will be very interesting. |
Well I know you said dat you've already redone the Diamond Sprites, but I'll still post mine up anyways.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8657/dbattle11cv.pnghttp://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1764/dbattle26ab.pnghttp://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2110/dbattle162td.pnghttp://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7374/dbattle192cp.png The first two are the main ones, the second being modifyed (Brendans right arm). However, these both contain 23 colours. The third one has been reduced to 16 colours, but I thinks it looks terrible. The fourth one has also been reduced to 19 colours. Anyways use how you wish. Quote:
While you are correct in saying that it is incredibly hard to hack a DS rom, there are a number of emulators out there that are currently able to play commerrcial roms, my recomendation being DeSmuME. So just search them in Google. But you need a pretty good computer to use them anyways. |
Dark Lucario: No, it's a parody of Littleroots "A town that cannot be shaded by any hue"
Ray.z: Hey they're good, I'll stick with my new one though. Still getting that database error, I had to wait ages for this page, is anyone else having this problem, all other pages come on fine. Anyway, I've got some new screens of the text box. It's not exact, because it can't be done. In battle(although the arrow is now grey) and screen to compare http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2347/compare7qp.png Normal text and screen to compare http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2765/text1im.png http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8878/jap1hn.png I'll work on the battle screen tonight, although with this "there seems to be a problem with our database" problem, I may not show it until tommorow Also I've made a banner: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6534/dpneewcopy22ps.png Simple and descriptive, free to use: Location: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6534/dpneewcopy22ps.png |
Yeah I know I'm good.
Thanks. Anywho, I went off and made a Pearl sprite as well, but it has 30 colours - I couldn't be bothered in trying to reduce it. http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1821/pearl7nz.png I made two different versions as you can see - one is Green (FR/LG Heroine), and the other is a R/S/E character (I dunno the name). No poses were changed either. Also, about your banner thing, Wolt was kinda right before. You shouldn't be using it to advertise. Instead, you should create a banner or something that displays how much effort has been put into the hack, like with a OW screenie or something. |
Either the overworld looks too big, or the other overwolrds are too small
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Ther good - not as good as ur diamond one but nintendo have released one in one of the screens. Chris-h11 are you refering to ray.z or my overworlds, if thats the case it's because it's in a different perspective to ruby, so some old sprites are still there, they're an exact replica (-1 pixel) from the screens and I'm making the rest to the same scale
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kewl, keep the nice work going. if you need any spriting help, just let me know. (awesome diamond boy sprites ray)
and the ds comment... aren't one of them (D/P) going to be on GBA? maybe i read it wrong, but it's great that you're doing this anyway. i don't think DS will ever have a full-functioning emulator, but then again, i don't know much... |
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Yea it would even be hard to use a ds emulator without a graphics tablet if we got a functional one. I'll do some work later and try to insert the house when that's done and the battle screen I'll release the beta. I also need to do the sideways stairs for the rocks etc. Edit: Little update,stairs arn't finished as you can see by the palette and surrounding rocks: http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2631/stairsdv3.png Comments? |
wicked i love this its so cool erm i am having that database problem it take ages for this page to load but other websites take like 1 sec :( oh well great hack and nice screens
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Everyones having it due to that 1000 of URL request thing. I've sorted a way to do the starters now anyway, seen as how it's a briefcase, I'll justedit the bag event and stick it in the lab. So you can edit it as normal. Starter requests anyone?
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Earthbound? Mother 2/3? XD Sorry is just that the grass reminds me so much of those great RPGs, which is a good thing, sweetie.
Well good luck sweetie. |
Thanks Jeremy. My plan was to work through them steadily. Does anyone know why when I extendthe main tileset (1617) down and repoint, when I go on advancemaps block editor, it only goes to the tiles it would normally be? (Excludes the extended bit but alll other changes apppear) is this not possible?
UPDATED FIRST POST WITH A BETTER BANNER |
AM and EM are made to recognize the tileset, but are also programmed with the default image dimensions. It will only show what is within those dimensions. Sorry.
BTW, this looks great, can't wait to see it finished! |
Oh thats a pain, now there's one for LU-HO for the next Advancemap... I's ok though, I'll re-arange the tiles and repoint it, ths makes it awkward as it no longer appears in UNLZ, but you can import and write it to it's new position. Looks like I' gonna have to release a tutorial on how to do this with the release. Anyway I've done another position of the stairs:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5742/downlj1.png Comments? |
Comments? OK. That's a view of the stairs from behind, right? Do they actually have that in D/P or are you making that up? Also, I only see one. Anyway, this looks good, and it'd be nice to know how to change the tiles with unLZ-GBA, please give that tutorial.
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http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5819/backxx6.pnghttp://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5742/downlj1.png It's not perfect yet though. For tiles in UNLZ just go to 1617 and save it, import it, change palette if needed. PM me if u need help. EDIT: New pic of overworlds http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/3889/newth3.png I've done a few more, but all poses aren't done, but I'm whizzing through them. Anyone want to see/ force me to make and show, a character. |
Wow, your Pearl looks good, and so does that Bald guy.
Anyway, can you show us a Nurse Joy (since we'll be seeing her alot). |
Thanks, I'll make her later, it is actually in a screen thats been released, keep watcing as I'll edit to avoid double post.
Wow, a daily visitor! Right, thanks, here's the request, been busy though, I've been beeing interviewed on MSN. http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5416/joyda6.png |
Interviewed? For .rhw? Neat!
Nice job so far, the characters look great! |
The main problem with this is that Diamond and Pearl have 3D maps. You should keep that in mind. Stick with the 2D look of the GBA games.
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Looks pretty nice! I wonder how the D/P houses would look...
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This should be interesting. I'm definitely checking out ROM Hackers Weekly (which, I've noticed, isn't quite weekly...) to see if I can find your interview, GC! Good luck with the graphics!
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Thanks, I think it should be renamed monthly. Well I hope he gets it. In case anyone cares, I have inserted the houses, but they're not lined up properly, nor in the right palette. So thats tonights job. Stay tuned viewers!
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Well done for that. I like the trees, but they could be better with a little shading. Heres a tree directly ripped from a screen shot with colours reduced down to 16: |
Thanks, I may try it, but it wold mean sacrificing other palettes, wouldn't it? Iy's currently just the colours of the normal trees under a palette change. Thats the main problem, not enough palettes. That why most things are reduced, such as the trees. I'm gonna try to reduce mine to 2 tiles anyways, so I'll have a go later at finding a palette I won't use.
EDIT: For the sake of it, I made some fake box art, see my first post. |
Well iv not looked into the GBA system fully, but I beleive that the GBA uses 256 colours made up of 16, 16 colour pallets, so useing that tree souldnt be a problem.
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Yeah, but it's shared with the rest of the tileset, so when I edit it I've got to figure out what I can and can't loose. But yes, you are correct in theory, it is possible, so thanks.
EDIT: New pic http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3382/pearlnm1.png |
Wow, that's a good sprite - much better than your Diamond one, and it's better than my one too.
What sprite/s did you make it from? |
Thanks, but I can't take the credit, it's a rip from a screen. I've then done stretch/skew and reduced it to ruby's size. It is from ... this screen...
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8012/battlevj8.png---->into----->http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3382/pearlnm1.png If anyone wants this they can have it:http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7293/pearlpw0.png insert it, make sprites out of it, whatever. I'm doing Diamonds back now, houses STILL arn't done. I hope to get them sorted soon. I might make a diamond sprite out of this too. Has anyone any suggestions on what the title should look like? |
Why not make a traditional one.
Y'know, have Pokemon: Diamond Version up the top, then the Diamond legendary in the background. |
Good point, like ruby's with its shadow and it glows but in a blue sort of theme. Anyway new pic:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/69/back2il3.png Hope everyone is happy with it. If not say so... |
Well it seems to me that the guy is too tall.
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hi this is lookin good Check this out for some info about dp http://www.freewebs.com/cyberaquapokemon/
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I'm so ready for a Beta. Even a small part will make me happy. When will the beta be released?
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I like this game! Can I PM you some recoloured Pokemon from DP?
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Look, I know it's a rip from the screenies, but it is actually too tall for the GBA games I believe.
Attachment 34200 See how (in my little crappy attempt at transperancy in MS Paint) the DP sprite you got is heaps taller than Red. It doesn't look natural. |
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Expect screens soon as I'm planning on doing the bag. Im making a site so I may give the hack a page of it's own. |
i dont have eneugh post so copy this url
.ndsemulator.com/nds-emulator.htm and make before www xDD scroll a bit down and then you can see how the size differenc is ^^ |
one sees that sta well hack but it needs to some things type 3d
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Ok I don't understand fully probably due to your English skills [I presume your Spanish as your from WAH judging by your signature - I saw mitic island on it - it looks good by the way] Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think you meant: Quote:
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no problem ^^
thats nothing special xDD Edit: i can help you when you will ^^ im not so good but i can work with unlz gba good |
Ok thanks, I'm ok for help. But if I PM you a patch could you test the graphics and the music. I'm not so sure about the new battle music so tell me what you think. Also here is what I'm AIMING FOR with the battle screen - This is not yet part of the game, it's just to show what I want to do.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6913/impressionke7.png |
Well that seems fine, but I don't see how it is much different to D/P screen.
Well I guess you could try and make the grass patch under the hero and pochy to look more like the D/P ones. |
Thanks, I'm trying to do the palette edting now. But I'm struggling because its not finding it in hex, so I'm making a mistake somewhere. Also do you ever get palettes that are like --67 5467 45-- (- could be anything and I made the numbers up) instead of 6754 6745 ?
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Are you filpping the numbers over?
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k thanks but the musik/sound is on my pc not the best because my pc is to slow for corectlie sound play but i doo my best ^^
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EDIT: I've finally got te percEntages I needed, I now should be able to make the game in a smaller scale to D/P ________________________________________ CONVERT DS PIXELS TO GBA STRETCH/SKEW VALUE TO INSERT LENGTH 240/256 = 93.75%. ~ 94. X WIDTH 160/192 = 83.333%. ~ 83. so... 89% x 89% ________________________________________ Hope I did it right! -----below might not make sense as someone was asking to be a beta tester and I think their post got deleted-------------------------------------- Erm ok, I kind of wasn't offering beta-tester positions, its just that he said he'd like to help. So please don't ask unless I offer. I'm not at a stage to offer beta tester positions, it was just to check the music was ok really as my speakers arn't to good. But ok I'll PM you a download link, I don't mind. |
cool man this is amazing a hack of diamond i like this hack :D
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Edit: Are you keeping the original story and etc, or just changing the graphics or what? You should buy the game when it comes out then remake the game on a hack. That would PWN. |
This looks really cool! I gotta watch out for this!
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I may update later, I'mgoing to attempt to sort out these trees with what I worked out above, I wanted to do it yesterday but couldn't get on the site to get my percentages. I'll save it now. Out of intrest is there anything that anyone wants included for the beta? |
Hmm can I be BETA staff or something or other? lmfao Just messin with you.
Seriously, upload a BETA. The starters atm should be left the same. and try to make the truck into a Car. That seems logical. Just keep making the graphics. |
Yeah the graphics are staying, however the truck you mention is going. He'll start in his room, I planned this from the beggining, has anyone any ideas on how to get rid of the screen shaking. By the way I'm not having testers, whats to test? I've not done anything tonight through building my site, I'll give this a page when I get around to it.
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Great job so far Green_Charizard ;)
If you need any help scripting tell me. |
maybe good
yeah, i like the idea, its very original.
but i cant understand how would you extract the storyline of the future new game.. right now only a few details about the development of the events has been released, and a hack needs a lot of texts. Anyway i support you PS: I think i can help you a lot with the original published sprites of DP, i've uploaded it here. Use them freely. |
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i've sorted out te trees but they need inserting, I added both my horizontal and vertical percentages and divided it by two to keep proportion and it came out fine see: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/25/treesij0.png |
Stech and Skew is good. MS Paint is good if you know how to use it properly, it's good for drawing, but Photoshop still pwns. ;)
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Yeah, I've got both, but for tiles paint is easier.
I've inseted the tree and it looks rather bad. If anyone feels like importing the middle tree from above, feel free. I'll remake mine again as it's not even worth posting. (Don't worry I've got back ups of the game if I can't sort out these trees.) Just use the space provided within the image bellow. If I use yours instead of mine you'll get credit. http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5177/importpo4.png |
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It has 7 not including the grass, but that order of shading needs to stay as it's been palette edited. I'll have another go myself in the morning. Also it can't be half of a tree to mirror, D/P doesn't work that way, the point sticks out at one side or the other. I've learn't alot about these future games through this. Especially the 89% for DS to GA conversion (it's actually 88.5% but you can't have half a pixel so it may be ne pixel over)
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