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crazitenniskid July 24th, 2006 3:30 PM

Somebody Please Help My Team!!!
 
Ok...i started netbattle about 3 days ago.... and i made a team of my favorite pokemon...but it loses all the time. here it is:

Magneton @ Leftovers
Hidden Power
Metal Sound
Thunder wave
Thunder BOlt

Ludicolo @leftovers
Leech seed
Rain dance
Surf
Toxic

^^^ I like ludicolo because he poisons them then drains their health...i want a pokemon that can do this but has tough defence.....

Walrein @Nevermeltice
Blizzard
Aurora beam
Ice ball
Ice Beam

^^^I really need help with that....

Snorlax @leftovers
curse
double-edge
shadowball
rest

Kabutops @ Salac Berry
brick break
return
swords dance
toxic

metagross @no item..i didnt know what to pick
ice punch
psychic
thunderpunch
toxic

Ok...thats my team. I want to put either Alakazm or Gradevoir in there. Maybe Articuno. PLease please help me. Change it around if you want just please. I dont want to lose anymore. Thank you!

blahblah July 24th, 2006 4:49 PM

ur team stinks no offense. it needs more balence like this team.and chose blastoice or charizard,kk.
but i recomend something like this: [email protected],bodyslam, fireblast/flamethrower,earthquake,dig
[email protected]ver,thunder,earthquake,fireblast
[email protected],toxic,fireblast/flamethrower/fire punch,phychic
[email protected],thunder,phycho boost,thunder,protect,solarbeam
[email protected]h dees,earthquake,dig/giga drain,solarbeam
[email protected],blastburn.fly,fireblast,earthquake/sunnyday/
[email protected],hydro cannon,rain dance,hydo pump,earthquake.

here u go and wats ur nick on it id like to battle u.

shanecdavis July 24th, 2006 6:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazitenniskid
Ok...i started netbattle about 3 days ago.... and i made a team of my favorite pokemon...but it loses all the time. here it is:

Magneton @ Leftovers
Hidden Power [Grass]
Metal Sound
Thunder wave
Thunder BOlt

NEVER start off with Magneton. Not only is it too slow, but you just gave away that you have one to your opponent. You keep Maggie on ice until Skarmory shows up. Also, I do hope that HP is Grass.

Ludicolo @leftovers
Leech seed
Rain dance
Surf
Toxic

^^^ I like ludicolo because he poisons them then drains their health...i want a pokemon that can do this but has tough defence.....

Venusaur or Milotic.

Walrein @Nevermeltice
Blizzard
Aurora beam
Ice ball
Ice Beam

^^^I really need help with that....

UGH. Do not ever give the same Poke two attacking moves of the same type, that aren't called Quick Attack or Mach Punch. Actually, Walrein isn't a very good option. Go with a physical wall like Weezing or Skarmory instead.

Snorlax @leftovers
curse
double-edge
shadowball
rest

Fire Blast > Shadow Ball to counter the typical normal resist switch in.

Kabutops @ Salac Berry
- Endure
- Flail
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

VERY bad choice. If you insist, go with the EndFlail version. You should really change Metagross to be physical and get some kind of good special sweeper on your team (i.e. the Alakazam or Gardevoir you are wanting to add).


Metagross @ Leftovers/Choice Band
- Agility/Shadow Ball
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash

A Metagross without Meteor Mash and Explosion is a VERY sad Metagross. While its base SAtk is a good 95, its base Atk of 135 is awesome. Use Agility with Lefties and SB with CB.


Ok...thats my team. I want to put either Alakazm or Gradevoir in there. Maybe Articuno. PLease please help me. Change it around if you want just please. I dont want to lose anymore. Thank you!

Make some of the suggested changes and post again.

BTW - blahblah, please don't post saying someone's team stinks and then makes suggestions that stink just as bad. NEVER use Fly or Dig. Ever.

crazitenniskid July 24th, 2006 7:12 PM

thank you!

i need help with wheezing & Milotic moveset, and evs for my pokemon.

If you could help it would be great!

aragornbird July 24th, 2006 9:21 PM

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blahblah, the team you suggested is even worse than crazitenniskid’s original team. Please don’t give advice unless you are knowledgeable in what makes a good team and a good moveset.

Crazitenniskid, do not type your Netbattle team out. In Team Builder, go to File and choose Export to Text. Then copy and paste it here. It’s much easier that way.

Anyways:

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Atk / 208 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
-Pain Split
-Haze
-Will-o-wisp/Fire Blast
-Sludge Bomb

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 156 Def / 100 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Agility
- Explosion

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 140 HP / 192 Def / 28 SAtk / 148 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis
- Razor Leaf

Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Substitute
- Metal Sound

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 156 HP / 176 Atk / 108 Def / 68 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
-Double-Edge
-Earthquake
-Sleep Talk
-Rest

I like Sleep Talk Snorlax more than Curselax. Absorbs sleep and can attack while sleeping.

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 132 HP / 252 Def / 12 Spd / 56 SAtk / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hypnosis
-Recover

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Lord Mike July 25th, 2006 4:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blahblah
ur team stinks no offense. it needs more balence like this team.and chose blastoice or charizard,kk.
but i recomend something like this: [email protected],bodyslam, fireblast/flamethrower,earthquake,dig
mewtwo@leftovers.recover,thunder,earthquake,fireblast
[email protected],toxic,fireblast/flamethrower/fire punch,phychic
[email protected],thunder,phycho boost,thunder,protect,solarbeam
[email protected]h dees,earthquake,dig/giga drain,solarbeam
[email protected],blastburn.fly,fireblast,earthquake/sunnyday/
[email protected],hydro cannon,rain dance,hydo pump,earthquake.

here u go and wats ur nick on it id like to battle u.

This goes to prove he's either a noob or a complete gimmick.

crazitenniskid July 26th, 2006 8:56 AM

Thanks to all of you who provided great help! except some of you *cough* blah blah *cough*. Oh yeah and my favorite tip was this: Crazitenniskid, do not type your Netbattle team out. In Team Builder, go to File and choose Export to Text. Then copy and paste it here. It’s much easier that way. ....THIS HAS SAVED ME ABOUT AN HOUR OF MY LIFE. You guys are awesome. I can't wait to start battling!

Espy Psyche July 26th, 2006 9:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazitenniskid
Ok...i started netbattle about 3 days ago.... and i made a team of my favorite pokemon...but it loses all the time. here it is:

Magneton @ Leftovers
Hidden Power Fire
Metal Sound
Thunder wave
Thunder BOlt

Ludicolo @leftovers
Leech seed
Rain dance
Surf Dive
Toxic
Ability: Rain Dish
^^^ I like ludicolo because he poisons them then drains their health...i want a pokemon that can do this but has tough defence.....
This is a tri-healing Ludicolo. Dive is not recommended by some because of the one-turn delay before attack. However, it is a defensive maneuver that allows the Toxic and Leech Seed damage to compound, as well as another turn of tri-healing. EVs and nature can raise DEF/SD.

Walrein @Nevermeltice @Leftovers
Blizzard Rest
Aurora beam Surf
Ice ball Snore
Ice Beam

^^^I really need help with that....

Snorlax @leftovers
curse
double-edge
shadowball
rest

I prefer Amnesia Lax to standard curselax but it requires a trap-passer

Kabutops @ Salac Berry
brick break
returnFlail
swords dance Endure
toxic Rock Slide

I see you want a Salac Sweeper Kabutops. Not the best Salac Sweeper, but resistance to Sandstorm helps.

metagross @no item..i didnt know what to pick Leftovers
ice punch Meteor Mash
psychic
thunderpunch Agility
toxic Earthquake

Ok...thats my team. I want to put either Alakazm or Gradevoir in there. Maybe Articuno. PLease please help me. Change it around if you want just please. I dont want to lose anymore. Thank you!

I suggest replacing Walrein with one of those, preferably one of the psychics. Alakazam and Gardevoir are extremely different in stats, but will possess similar sets. The standard is a CM set on both, but I prefer Gardyblock to CM Gardy.

[email protected]
Psychic
Calm Mind
T/Punch
F/Punch

[email protected]
Psychic
Calm Mind
T/Bolt
F/Punch

These are the standard sets. Some people like to use an Alakazam with Trick or Skill Swap however.

The Gardyblock set is this one.

[email protected]
Psychic
Reflect
Wish
T/Bolt

Not recommended for use on Alakazam because Alakazam's DEF doesn't break 300 with Reflect active.

Mullet July 26th, 2006 10:13 AM

Looks like e4 is back in town and still using the same terrible movesets.

Lord Mike July 26th, 2006 10:13 AM

Dive is still meh.

MM/RS/EQ/Agility for Agiligross. MM/RS/EQ/Explosion for CB gross.

For Kabby use RS/SD/Flail/Endure or Substitute.

Snore is stupid and pointless. Stalking Walrein is ok in UU but sucks in OU. EQ is an option also for stuff like Manectric.

Swift Swim > Rain Dish IMO. Ludicolo's little "TriHeal" plan goes to waste once something like Salamence shows up and ruins its fun. :\

Mullet July 26th, 2006 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoMama
Dive is still meh.

No Dive isn't meh it sucks. >_>

pokemaster7 July 26th, 2006 4:05 PM

heres my suggestion, although I'm not an expert.
Magnaton: replace thunder wave and hidden power with zap cannon and and lock on(alsome combination) or just Thunder Punch.
Ludicolo:I'ts fine.
Walrein: they are all ice moves. use water type moves for a surprise for a fire type.
Snorlax: Try a rest-belly drum combo and use sleep talk aswell.(keep double edge). try using a chesto berry instead of lefties.
Metagross:I'd pesonally swith toxic with Earthquake.
as for Kabutops: I cant think of a strategy for that one.

Pax Deorum July 26th, 2006 5:12 PM

hi protector, welcome back

shanecdavis July 26th, 2006 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemaster7
heres my suggestion, although I'm not an expert.
Magnaton: replace thunder wave and hidden power with zap cannon and and lock on(alsome combination) or just Thunder Punch.
Ludicolo:I'ts fine.
Walrein: they are all ice moves. use water type moves for a surprise for a fire type.
Snorlax: Try a rest-belly drum combo and use sleep talk aswell.(keep double edge). try using a chesto berry instead of lefties.
Metagross:I'd pesonally swith toxic with Earthquake.
as for Kabutops: I cant think of a strategy for that one.

Zap Cannon and Lock On is a HORRIBLE combination. Please don't ruin Magneton by sticking those moves on it. Thunder Punch is equally horrible on a Poke that learns the much better Thunderbolt.

starmie fighter July 26th, 2006 11:22 PM

Go Magneton! Use thunderpunch.

Magneton: WHAT THE **** YO' WANTIN' ME TO PUNCH WITH???

Lord Mike July 28th, 2006 12:49 PM

Sheesh. This thread is getting freaken crazy. Go with AB's suggestions for Pete's sake. He even included the EVs.


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