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Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 8:42 AM

Dating Training
 
hey and welcome! i dont beive there one of theres threads here so i though id make one...

so, this thread is about dating tactics, strategies, etc...i know i kinda make it sound like a game but what im saying is that i, and mabey other epople, want to know some way to...you know...get over being embarassed and asking someone out, what do do on a date, where to go, what to see...etc...so any one?

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 11:02 AM

Uhh It's all intuition, you don't need tips on how to date a person because everyone has their own style. Me I've been going out with my girlfriend for almost 2 months again and I haven't used any special tactics. It's not really needed anyways. Plus.. Dating is so overrated, its all about going about to the right places. It's more about Chillin' with your girlfriend or boyfriend than about a formal date..

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 11:05 AM

whats your idea of a "formal" date consist of? what do you do...still no answers to the questions XD but you KINDA answered some...well any way that i could finally get the guts to ask a girl out, and even then what do i ask her...im in middle school so its not like i could say, "hey want me to drive you to the movies then we could go get some coffe..." lol, but for my age...help?

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 11:09 AM

I don't know, I'm a very informal person, the only formal thing I went to that could actually be called a date is The Prom. Other then that, I'm always with my girlfriend so we don't really need to day, I see her in school, after that, And I'm even going to see her in florida when we go on Sunday. Asking girls out isn't that easy, first you have to befriend them. But Only date girls in your class, never as a popular girl out, or it might be trouble. Once your friends, start flirting and see what she thinks. After that just ask her out. Forget about the Movies, thats where the losers go to make out.. You need to explore the mall, and it's wonders.

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 11:12 AM

lol i never said id go to the movies, pluse thats what they do in the movies, take girls to the movies...o_0; confoosing...
anyways, why never date a popular girl...cuz uh thats my problem she like the most pretty girl in shcool...
also, im not saying im not popular, but isnt popularity judged by how mnay people know you, well if thats the case probably the whole school know who i am...

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 11:19 AM

It doesn't work like that in my school, which is pretty much like everywhere else. Your either Born Popular (Carry it over from Other Schools), go Out with someone popular (Only Boys can go out with Unpopular girls, because Girls shouldnt date unpopular guys), A Miracle saves you ( Something good happens like you become friends with someone in the group) Or your family with a popular person.

Other than that the only traits popular people should have is beauty, good sense of music, kindness, and friends. Popular people should not be Funny, or out of style..

People don't really go to the movies.. it's only for special occasions. A Real date is either a party, chill outside the school or at the mall, or at your lover's house (Dont do anything crazy :P). Also It depends on who your friends are, Popularity and beauty points, and If you dress well.. Then people will notice you.

Chairman Kaga April 16th, 2004 11:19 AM

My best advice is to not date at all...it's more trouble than it's worth (as is love in general) ... why not spend what little of the youth you have left not worrying about these sort of things? I don't...but then again I've accepted that I'm forever doomed to isolation from other people :P

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 11:21 AM

i dont know...see this girl that i like its beyond liking..
i think about her in the day
i dream of her in the night
and every time i look at her and she looks back i blush and look away...i dont know mabey loves not worth the pain...

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 11:23 AM

Love is worth it for me :)... I'm already married :) well.. sorta under the church of my friends I am but not legally. Love is worth it, you just have to find the special one in your group.

Greed April 16th, 2004 12:23 PM

I absolutely despise love >.<; You have to be very careful with love. My advice is.. Never fall in love too deep. The deeper your love for that person is, the harder you'll fall when they let you go. Love is like digging a hole, the deeper you make it, the more you like that person. But if they push you (heartbreak) down your own hole, phew! Is that gonna hurt! XD

Anyways, more advice. Errr.. Be yourself? :P Usually I would prefer to be friends with that person, get to know em, and stuff like that. Simple stuff ^^;

*dies*

John Denver April 16th, 2004 12:51 PM

When on a date, the key is to be as obnoxious as humanely possible. Be cheap, loud, and overly offensive and your date will have no CHOICE but to love you...

At least that's what I think. Personally I think that dating shouldn't be done until college...serious dating anyways...cause 99% of the time you lose all your friends out of high school...it sucks all but it's the bloody truth...

we were meant to live fro so much BOO ya!

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 2:15 PM

yes ive had thoughts against middle school dating becuase, how will i knwo how this girl will grow up, what shell grow up to be, how shell look in 20 years...i just dont know...i guess ill abandon love for the time being...but if she asks me out them im all for it ~_^ my not wantiing to date till a later age doesnt mean we still cant post tips on this thread! so shoot! NOT AT ME! *dodges bullet*

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 2:18 PM

Heh this is funny :) If you guys go to the same college or stay in the same hometown... Me and my girlfriend are going to be together forever *Shows engagement rings*

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy
Heh this is funny :) If you guys go to the same college or stay in the same hometown... Me and my girlfriend are going to be together forever *Shows engagement rings*

i dont understand what you mean? what are you saying lol?!

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 2:26 PM

Im saying I live in the same city as my girlfriend :) And we're engaged so were going to be together for freekin ever

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 2:30 PM

good for you...how did you meet, any TIPS you would like to give us on knowing how you know when the girl you meet is "the one" you are meant to be with...and have you ever had any fights, if so how do you resolve them ~_^ thanks....

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 2:33 PM

Uhh I met her in the 2nd Grade and this is an arranged marriage. But she is that special one and I know that because no other couple has the relationship that we have. We fight but in a playful manner and we're always acting stupid together :) I love her so much, and things are already working out... I've done lots of things with her, even things I can't mention on PC :) And What do you mean by thanks?

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 2:37 PM

thanks for sharing lol, is it true that arranged marriges usualy work out better than free choice marriges, atleast in your case it did..
any ways, so you havnt ever had a fight....and f you have what was it about (if you can tell us...) and how was it resolved?
*gazes at dizzy* "... I've done lots of things with her, even things I can't mention on PC " does thta mean what i think it means?

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:12 PM

It sure does :)... lol, Well there was only once where me and her fought. I bought her a hat, and she thought it was the prettiest thing, but some hater said it was mad ugly, she slapped the girl and wouldnt talk to me, saying the hat was ugly. But we resolved it later.. By making out. I love her so much

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 3:15 PM

whoa... Dizzy ive seen you in a new light knowing youve eerr...done...eer...yea, okay next suject!
tips on introducing yourself to someone and tips on how to get close t o that person...i kneed people to respond lol, i stink at answering these otherwise i wouldnt have made this thread XD lol..

*shocked* dizzy im still like totaly amazed...ive never...so yor saying you did "IT" with her?...

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing Zero
whoa... Dizzy ive seen you in a new light knowing youve eerr...done...eer...yea, okay next suject!
tips on introducing yourself to someone and tips on how to get close t o that person...i kneed people to respond lol, i stink at answering these otherwise i wouldnt have made this thread XD lol..

*shocked* dizzy im still like totaly amazed...ive never...so yor saying you did "IT" with her?...


LOL it's not really new news :).

Well it's easier if you have someone that knows that person to get introduced to her. Once you establish a connection, just talk. Dont jump into it too quick though or you might intimidate her. And Remember, make sure she's single first or it sucks when someone isnt single and you find out after you get to know them...

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 3:20 PM

so what are some common things to talk about, you know what would be ideal?
mabey like interest and getting to know that perosn, i know that, but after that would would you do...and what would you do with her on "dates"...

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:22 PM

It's all about what she likes, and what she finds appealing. Fashion, Music and People you know are some good things to talk about, especially if you want a future with this person. I can't teach you how to get to know the person, thats all on your own, but if you know what she likes, try to talk about it.

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 3:23 PM

so what kind of people should i look for (in this case what kind of people would YOU look for) smart, funny, pretty? or would you wait and wait untill the "perfect" girl in your eyes came along...

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:25 PM

Three things vary on what kind of girl you like... Beauty, Fashion, and Music are probably the only things I look in, Im not really a personality person. Anyways If things go well this weekend I'm going to florida with her and a few friends.. maybe I'll have a great time there with her :) I can't really help you on the "Perfect" girl part, because I already found my perfect girl, It might be way different for you.

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 3:32 PM

now, would you recomend dates with a bunch of people or hold off untill you find your perfect one...i dunno cuz what if you let so many go that you never get another chance, or never really took the opprotunity to know one too much and when she grows up you would regret it...? i dunno...

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:34 PM

Dont wait, but dont go out with different people, just find a girlfriend and stick with her until you know whether she's yours or not.. or you could have someone arrange your marriage if you want.

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 3:36 PM

uhhh, i dont trust people that much...i dunno what if they pick someone im misserable with...for you it worked out...
how do you break up with someone...if you dont want to hurt them alot...

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:38 PM

Let them break up with you, especially if there really sensative.. Or you could have someone break you guys up.. thats what I did. Sometimes if you dont wanna break up, you just write them notes about crap until you feel well enought to break up.

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 3:40 PM

well, wat if you dont want to wait, are there anything you would say, especialy if you had no guts? like i myslef can barely say no to my friends if they ask me to go somewehre with them...

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:44 PM

I dunno, I've never been in the situation. I always feel obligated to go places with her, even Victoria Secret :)

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 3:47 PM

well thats not that bad...what do you do if shes very self centric? would you teller her to think of others a bit more, break up, or give her one last chance?
ps- whats so bad about going to victoria secrets? XD

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:49 PM

I spoiled my girlfriend so I dont know if I made her self centered or whatever but she barely acts like it. Lol I actually like being dragged to Victoria Secret, especially when she asks me if she looks better in Red or Pink XD. Ehh Depends.. You should always give someone enough chances or they might feel locked in.

22sa April 16th, 2004 3:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaRtOON
I absolutely despise love >.<; You have to be very careful with love. My advice is.. Never fall in love too deep. The deeper your love for that person is, the harder you'll fall when they let you go. Love is like digging a hole, the deeper you make it, the more you like that person. But if they push you (heartbreak) down your own hole, phew! Is that gonna hurt! XD

Then you feel empty inside and you start hating. W00p.

I'm actually a very pro-love person too... like Dizzy in this sense I guess, though I'm newb so I don't know... I don't know. +

Dates? lol, dig deep I say! *pushes someone runs away*

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 3:51 PM

what kind of things would you buy your girl frien on the first date, second date, third date, etc?

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:53 PM

I dunno, lol, I just bought her mad stuff and brought it to her. I used the money I got from work, but I'm not going back there until next year.. Try Candy or Flowers. even a little teddy bear :)

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 3:54 PM

would it be considered "romantic" if you had a trend, you know like a different breed of flower with a different colored bear, etc...?

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 3:56 PM

Romantic really has nothing to do with it. The Romance Ages died out a couple hundred years... It's more about what your doing with your girlfriend rather then what you plan on doing. Half the fun is being somewhere where you dont know how the **** you got there but it was fun.

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 4:03 PM

what would you say a good age for dating is and why...
*i feel like an interveiwer person...XD*

22sa April 16th, 2004 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing Zero
what kind of things would you buy your girl frien on the first date, second date, third date, etc?

Well, I think you should ask yourself what kind of gift will be best satisfying for your girlfriend, consider how suitable it is for wherever you two are going though. O.o

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 4:09 PM

Any Age is good for dating...after 12, But During Junior High or High School Is the best time.

What 22sa Said :)

22sa April 16th, 2004 4:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing Zero
what would you say a good age for dating is and why...
*i feel like an interveiwer person...XD*

You should be earning your own money by then, perhaps...

Bleh =b, like I'd know....

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 4:12 PM

well, what are some nice things to say that have been proven to make her mood go from *i want to kill you* to *awww thank you =)* mabey not that drastic but you know what i mean...

22sa April 16th, 2004 4:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing Zero
well, what are some nice things to say that have been proven to make her mood go from *i want to kill you* to *awww thank you =)* mabey not that drastic but you know what i mean...

XP Use your charm. O.o

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 4:19 PM

well i kneed to know what worked for you guys lol, mabey i could use what your saying as my guid line, i mean youve helped me alot so far!

22sa April 16th, 2004 4:22 PM

Ohhh, I'm sorry. I don't have any exprience! Better call Dizzy :P

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 4:28 PM

LOL 22sa..

Chicks Dig when you speak a different language :) Maybe that would work..

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 4:29 PM

yea i speak another language hehe....
any tips on what to expect a girl to do when you ask her out, take her on a date, etc?

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 4:34 PM

ooo What language? Italian? Portuguese? French? Spanish? DONT ASK HER OUT UNTIL YOUR COMFY COZY with it :)

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 4:37 PM

i speak persian (not full but i understand bits and peices and im trying to learn) which is a very poetic language and assyrian, which isnt too poetic because of its thick "k" sounds, like french kind of...

and what about any tips on what to expect a girl to do when you ask her out, take her on a date, etc?

22sa April 16th, 2004 4:37 PM

O.o ...Expect a girl to expect things from you? XP Don't know, I guess she'd expect you to have a good memory of what you know or going to know about her.

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 4:41 PM

Ohhhh yahh... What about French, French is really Romantic :) ...Uhhh Romantic needs to go..

Wing Zero April 16th, 2004 4:42 PM

no i said what should i expect her reactions to be to certain situations such as asking her out, taking her on a date, breaking up, etc....

i guess ill take french in high school and my moms friend is chinesse and knows frech and is married to a french dude so they can help me when we visit...
i guess ill just forget about learning japansese and learn french XD

Dizzy April 16th, 2004 4:51 PM

And you have to sing! Sing Songs to the girls :)

Wing Zero April 24th, 2004 6:35 PM

what kind of songs would be ideal to sing to her, in what language spesificly...

Dizzy April 24th, 2004 6:36 PM

I sing Techno to my girlfriend, she loves it, it comes in French, Portuguese and English, a well as German :)

Wing Zero April 24th, 2004 6:38 PM

yea u recomended me some songs that i still havent been able to check out...
i think one was "you promised me"....
how do you sing in techno? im kinda weird, it seems unnatural...
ps- are there any links you could send or post that would link to the song or a demo of the one u recomended or is that against the rules -_-

Dizzy April 24th, 2004 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing Zero
yea u recomended me some songs that i still havent been able to check out...
i think one was "you promised me"....
how do you sing in techno? im kinda weird, it seems unnatural...
ps- are there any links you could send or post that would link to the song or a demo of the one u recomended or is that against the rules -_-


Use Imesh or Shareaza :).. They Rock, once your done getting all the songs you want, just uninstall and delete the file :)

Wing Zero April 24th, 2004 6:43 PM

are ther any misc. tips you would like to point out before i think of more questions?

RoxasOld April 24th, 2004 6:50 PM

Oro? first time i've seen this thread.....hmmm.... yeah.... weird thread ya got going here, WZ! hmm... music? how about some barry white! XD (i think that how u spell his name)

22sa April 24th, 2004 7:22 PM

Shouldn't the place you're going to play music? :\ Other than that, I have no advice on music, not that I gave any advice on music anyway. =D

Wing Zero April 24th, 2004 7:25 PM

well what pleaces play good music? i mean i dont like rap, partially cuz u cant dance to it?
but what kind of places, on a "formal" date would you recomend that would prbably play music...

OH! and where would you take her to eat?

HightopNinja April 26th, 2004 11:52 AM

Look..it's really simple. Just walk upto her and say, "Hey, I was wondering if you'd like to hang out?" And she'll say yes or no. If she says yes, go someplace nice, get some dinner, take in a show, walk her home. If you drive, drive her someplace like a park or something afterward. If she says no, move on.

DarkMage31 April 26th, 2004 1:52 PM

I just read this whole thread feeling the emotional epitome of fascination.

I don't claim to be some kind of chick-magnet, but ACT YOURSELF! Don't go around singing songs, passing flowers, and go around speaking in foreign languages. It's fascinatingly simple:
Case study 1:
Me: Bonjour, vous êtes très beau!
Her: What's wrong with you?

Case study 2:
Me: [starts singing song]
Her: What's wrong with you?

Case study 3:
Me: Here you go, my beautiful damsel. I have a flower for you.
Her: How nice of you! [walks away]

1) Never ask someone out if she's not in your league (popular). That's when problems start.
2) Be yourself.
3) Ask her out when you're sure there's mutual trust and respect.
4) Don't date at the movies or someplace until you can drive- don't involve the parents
5) Talk about it with your friends. If you like someone, how will you ask her out if you can't even talk with the people you know and trust? Build confidence, and don't miss an opportunity to help her out in any way, shape, or form.

Again, I don't claim to be an expert. Just makin' stuff up that should hypothetically work. Use at your own risk :D

katiobod April 28th, 2004 9:44 AM

TRUE BUT NEVER ASK YOUR FRIENDS TO GET SOMEONES PHONE NUMBER FOR YOU. IF YOU WANT TO SHOW THAT YOU REALY ARE INTERESTED DO IT YOUR SELF. Darkmage that is very good advice. I learned that over the course of about 6 years. BUT in the end there is no rules of love, evey one is different.

DarkMage31 April 28th, 2004 10:53 AM

lol, thanks! The ironic thing is I've never had a girlfriend in my life! lol... I should follow my own advice sometimes...

Wing Zero May 2nd, 2004 9:07 PM

is poetry considered romantic...lol i had a whole poetry thing going on in the crush thread...lol...

22sa May 2nd, 2004 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkMage31
I just read this whole thread feeling the emotional epitome of fascination.

I don't claim to be some kind of chick-magnet, but ACT YOURSELF! Don't go around singing songs, passing flowers, and go around speaking in foreign languages. It's fascinatingly simple:
Case study 1:
Me: Bonjour, vous êtes très beau!
Her: What's wrong with you?

Case study 2:
Me: [starts singing song]
Her: What's wrong with you?

Case study 3:
Me: Here you go, my beautiful damsel. I have a flower for you.
Her: How nice of you! [walks away]

1) Never ask someone out if she's not in your league (popular). That's when problems start.
2) Be yourself.
3) Ask her out when you're sure there's mutual trust and respect.
4) Don't date at the movies or someplace until you can drive- don't involve the parents
5) Talk about it with your friends. If you like someone, how will you ask her out if you can't even talk with the people you know and trust? Build confidence, and don't miss an opportunity to help her out in any way, shape, or form.

Again, I don't claim to be an expert. Just makin' stuff up that should hypothetically work. Use at your own risk :D

It's all good man, that's great advice you gave, lol I've never had a real girlfriend before either. d=

Skye May 4th, 2004 10:45 AM

Girls are not that hard to figure out. You just have to be yourself around us. If a girl doesn't go out with you because she likes someone else based on looks, money, etc, then that doesn;t mean that you're dumb or wierd, it means that she is petty and not worth going out with. I've learned from experience that looking at the picture from the outside is the best way to see if anyone is your kind of dating material. Just...be you. Chicks who are worth it dig stuff like that.

DarkMage31 May 4th, 2004 11:21 AM

I'm a bit of a computer nerd (design school websites, etc... you get the idea), so as you can possibly imagine, I know what to do, just not how to do it. That's the tricky part for someone like me to ask a girl out... the brains but no outgoing personality.

Skye May 4th, 2004 4:13 PM

hey...no worries about being a computer nerd, Dark Mage. As a matter of fact...my boyfriend is a computer nerd! ^_^ I find them adorable!!

DarkMage31 May 7th, 2004 3:50 PM

Well... everyone's different, I guess. People like some people for personality, some for looks, some for other things.

Mew13 May 8th, 2004 11:37 AM

I know what you mean DarkMage! I'm a really smart girl, but has no guts whatsoever! I used to, but I've been shot down one to many times.... Now, I've got no guts to ask anyone out.... It sux...

katiobod May 26th, 2004 4:32 AM

well you can sit there and wait for the perfect person for you to come up and ask you for your name or number. Yet in the end while they start to walk to you someone else will stand up and ask them out before they ask you. The girl i am going out with had gone out with 11 other guys before me that was last school year! I was going to ask here out tuesday but she beat me too it and asked me out monday. my good friend got so pissed that he stopped talking to me. He liked her also. But he waited for her to ask him out, yet she asked me out. Any way the point is that i never thought i would have a girlfriend and it happened. If it just didn't happen like it did i was going to make it happen. I promissed her that if she goes out with me, i would be the last guy she goes out with because there is no one like me. I told her she could try more guys while she was dating me but no one will make her happyer. 8 months later, we are now engageded. we will get married after college. Dark mage and mew13 what are you going to do for the rest of your lives. There is nothing wrong with being smart. Smart is sexie(not guy to guy though lol). I, meself build pc's, Play yugioh and am a video game freak at age 19. Nothing is more buetiful then a person who is smart enough to raise a good family. So stop waiting what is the worst thing her or she can say NO! There are worst things like dieing alone and or never feeling the love of enother. No is just a word. Being your self is the key to every thing. DON'T EVER LET ANYONE CHANGE YOU. All of us are special from dark mage( programmer) to me (game freak). Dark mage can make good money making the games i play. and MEW 13 He## have no fuerrie like a womans scorn. I have been burned/shot down by girls that i gave up on love for 4 years, please don't do what i did. The joy of being love other then mommy and daddy are nothing like the love of a lover.
G.T.G.

DarkMage31 May 26th, 2004 12:20 PM

How touching... nice advice.

22sa May 26th, 2004 9:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katiobod
well you can sit there and wait for the perfect person for you to come up and ask you for your name or number. Yet in the end while they start to walk to you someone else will stand up and ask them out before they ask you. The girl i am going out with had gone out with 11 other guys before me that was last school year! I was going to ask here out tuesday but she beat me too it and asked me out monday. my good friend got so pissed that he stopped talking to me. He liked her also. But he waited for her to ask him out, yet she asked me out. Any way the point is that i never thought i would have a girlfriend and it happened. If it just didn't happen like it did i was going to make it happen. I promissed her that if she goes out with me, i would be the last guy she goes out with because there is no one like me. I told her she could try more guys while she was dating me but no one will make her happyer. 8 months later, we are now engageded. we will get married after college. Dark mage and mew13 what are you going to do for the rest of your lives. There is nothing wrong with being smart. Smart is sexie(not guy to guy though lol). I, meself build pc's, Play yugioh and am a video game freak at age 19. Nothing is more buetiful then a person who is smart enough to raise a good family. So stop waiting what is the worst thing her or she can say NO! There are worst things like dieing alone and or never feeling the love of enother. No is just a word. Being your self is the key to every thing. DON'T EVER LET ANYONE CHANGE YOU. All of us are special from dark mage( programmer) to me (game freak). Dark mage can make good money making the games i play. and MEW 13 He## have no fuerrie like a womans scorn. I have been burned/shot down by girls that i gave up on love for 4 years, please don't do what i did. The joy of being love other then mommy and daddy are nothing like the love of a lover.
G.T.G.

That's true, brains are important, especially with a sense of humour. And I agree, the right person would pass you by if all you do is wait, though waiting isn't bad an idea compared to what most people do these days. >=d

Jirachi May 27th, 2004 1:01 AM

Eww, love. I agree with Jynx, I hate love, who wants love?
This world is overflowing with human beings, and the root of it all is LOVE!!!

*big, handsome, muscular boy passes by*
*kicks him to the moon*

Now I feel much better. :p

katiobod May 27th, 2004 11:22 AM

Jirachi one quick question. Do you or have you ever had a boy/girl friend? If you did at least for one moment then you would know that all the anger you seem to have for love is just childish. Your depressed thoughts i have read above are scary and disturbing But it is freedom of speech so how you feel is how you feel. If you don't like any one or have advice for other People in search of "THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL" Then go to another thread. We are only here to offer advice that is all. any way gtg

ryan May 27th, 2004 7:41 PM

well said, i completely agree with you, katiobod. love is an amazing and wonderful thing, and you can't hate love. it's just not possible. it's like loving hate, it's a contradiction in itself.

Frostweaver May 27th, 2004 7:57 PM

Hating love... not a hard thing to do at all.
Love can cause too much pain, almost beyond bearable at times... And by hating those pain that love gives you, you are hating love.

Romantic type of love isn't always wonderful and romantic. I personally would say that love is undefinable, beyond definition and only understandable when it is too late for you already. Nothing can describe the feelings of being in love, and no one can ever understand how it's like to be in love unless that person is in love him/herself.

Skye May 27th, 2004 8:05 PM

But to hate love? Love in its purest form is devoid of hatred. You may dislike someone's actions, or aspects of their personality, but since a person is not love...a person can only express love...there is not possibility of hating love itself. You can dislike a relationship, but a relationship is built on love, it is not love. Unfortunately, for love to be in its purest form, a person would have to be, well, perfect, and that would make them not human...but that's a whole different discussion completely....

22sa May 27th, 2004 8:08 PM

Well, I know what love to hate means, behind love lays hate. Hate follows love. They are not contradictions. The opposite of love is not hate - but indifference. You won't be able to describe how you feel in words if you are really in love. That's true.

Frostweaver May 27th, 2004 8:14 PM

Nothing will crush you harder than your most loved one leaving you...

When that happens, you will be hating love for love to cause you such great pain...


But why am I even wasting my time talking about it? It's just not the same anymore (which is a good thing), and as if words can ever speak out what "hating love" is ever like...

22sa May 27th, 2004 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frostweaver
Nothing will crush you harder than your most loved one leaving you...

When that happens, you will be hating love for love to cause you such great pain...


But why am I even wasting my time talking about it? It's just not the same anymore (which is a good thing), and as if words can ever speak out what "hating love" is ever like...

I actually got a little taste of that before. x_x; It's still in my memory, lol.

katiobod May 28th, 2004 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SKYE
But to hate love? Love in its purest form is devoid of hatred. You may dislike someone's actions, or aspects of their personality, but since a person is not love...a person can only express love...there is not possibility of hating love itself. You can dislike a relationship, but a relationship is built on love, it is not love. Unfortunately, for love to be in its purest form, a person would have to be, well, perfect, and that would make them not human...but that's a whole different discussion completely....
Quote:

FROSTWEAVER
Nothing will crush you harder than your most loved one leaving you...

When that happens, you will be hating love for love to cause you such great pain...
Quote:

RSGH5
You won't be able to describe how you feel in words if you are really in love.
Each of these quotes have truth to them. These statements are most likly the best things that anyone can say as far as page 4 goes. I agree with skye that you can't hate love because love is an abstract word, an emotion but then angain i hate when i or others cry. I'm not sure that might be pysical any way getting back to my point skye's point above makes a valid point but i'am an open minded person and also liked what frostwearver said "the quote above". Yes love hurts, i am not saying love or emotions are perfect. Just like a commputer (love) is only as good as the programmer (the person in love or that think there in love.).There are bugs in the computer (love) and if it brakes down (relationship ends) a pc repair man (new lover) will fix it (start a new relationship with the programmer). This doesn't end and the programmer is getting hurt by losing time and money. The last quote comes from rsgh5 . if you ever read the book sidhartha you would see that the theme is the same. In the book one man trys to find himself and the way of reaching nervana. He even runs into a man that has and learns from that man that no one can tell you how to reach it. It is a good point that if you are in love you can explain it. my parents don't like my girlfriend. They think she is not good for me. She use to cut herself when we first started to go out. (but it had been happening for about a year or two before me) She has bipoler disoder. She also gets depressed very easly. My mom and dad would be like "oh why do you go out with her" or "you don't know what love is" Well heres the thing... no one knows what love is it is just there. I could never answer my parents why i go out with her... But when ever she asks me why i go out with her, every thing we have ever done, every word spoken to each other, every breath we have taken together rushs my memery like a flash flood. The good, the bad, the love, the pain it is all combind to make use closer and make us as humans better people. Even crying as mush as i hate it is apart of those memerys. anyway i have to go keep up the chats people gtg.

Skye May 28th, 2004 7:10 AM

I think you really summed it up, Katiobod!

A bit of advice for you, frostweaver, from someone who has been hurt by those she deeply and unconditionally cares for. Please don't take this the wrong way. I hope that it may help.

If you close the door to love, and those people whom you love and care for deeply, you will be shutting out perhaps the greatest and most meaningful experience that being a human being has to offer. You cannot fear being hurt by those who love you, and while those you love may come and go, and leave scars behind, they will make you all the stronger, if you choose to look at it from that persective. We all have a choice to make when we become hurt by those who love us. We can feel miserable and sorry that we have been hurt so badly, or we can rise for the sake of love, and become stronger people because of it. Essentially, love is a teaching tool in any relationship, no matter if it remains good forever, or goes bad eventually.

I am reminded of a quote from Moulin Rough:

"The greatest thing you'll ever know is just to love, and be loved in return."

That is all I have to say.

Frostweaver May 28th, 2004 9:43 AM

lol... I'm fine. ^^;
How come everyone is treating me as if I have some major mental problems or something just because I threw out a more darker quote in this page? And that was in the past and the problem was solved long time ago... and I'm very content and satisfied with how it turned out.

Skye May 28th, 2004 3:43 PM

I was under a wrong impression then. My apologies. ^_^ It did lead to a very interesting discussion though, huh?

22sa May 28th, 2004 4:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skye
I think you really summed it up, Katiobod!

A bit of advice for you, frostweaver, from someone who has been hurt by those she deeply and unconditionally cares for. Please don't take this the wrong way. I hope that it may help.

If you close the door to love, and those people whom you love and care for deeply, you will be shutting out perhaps the greatest and most meaningful experience that being a human being has to offer. You cannot fear being hurt by those who love you, and while those you love may come and go, and leave scars behind, they will make you all the stronger, if you choose to look at it from that persective. We all have a choice to make when we become hurt by those who love us. We can feel miserable and sorry that we have been hurt so badly, or we can rise for the sake of love, and become stronger people because of it. Essentially, love is a teaching tool in any relationship, no matter if it remains good forever, or goes bad eventually.

I am reminded of a quote from Moulin Rough:

"The greatest thing you'll ever know is just to love, and be loved in return."

That is all I have to say.

Awesome movie. XP And Frosty, the dark quotations are the only ones worth posting if you ask me... don't listen to me though... *is love and church deprived* XDD What do you mean become stronger people because of the hurt? :\ I guess love does teach lessons. It teaches you to love your family, IMO, or those closest to you whom love you the most. To respect them.... because they do love you. One's priorities slightly change.

...Gad. -_-

Frostweaver May 28th, 2004 5:02 PM

The quote "those that do not kill me makes me stronger" shows what it means to be stronger if you're hurt. Really you're a spoiled brat who's overprotected if you say that you've never suffered anything without any sign of obstacles in life and with the most loving family ever. Everyone should suffer a bit (but not too much like house burnt down then struck by disease and then go broke... now that's too much) at times.

It's true that dark quotations interest me a lot more than "be happy!" type of quotes. They just seems so much deeper and more reflective. There are some positive quotes that are also deep and reflective too though.

Skye May 28th, 2004 5:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
The quote "those that do not kill me makes me stronger" shows what it means to be stronger if you're hurt. Really you're a spoiled brat who's overprotected if you say that you've never suffered anything without any sign of obstacles in life and with the most loving family ever. Everyone should suffer a bit (but not too much like house burnt down then struck by disease and then go broke... now that's too much) at times.

It's true that dark quotations interest me a lot more than "be happy!" type of quotes. They just seems so much deeper and more reflective. There are some positive quotes that are also deep and reflective too though.


Understood. One must experience pain as well as joy in order to live life. To live life to its fullest means to make mistakes, to be hurt, and to gain strength from those experiences, both positive and negative. We tend to learn more from the negative, since people tend to point out the negative more than praising the good. It's kind of a sad thing, but I suppose as long as you learn and grow from experiences, then it will make you a better person either way.

ryan May 29th, 2004 5:21 PM

Quote:
RSGH5
You won't be able to describe how you feel in words if you are really in love.

um... i never said this, katiobod. sorry, and it's not even really true. so, if you would edit that, it would be apreciated

Frostweaver May 29th, 2004 5:55 PM

lol... just quoted wrong as it is written by 22sa not you... but really it's rather minor ^_^; Blah... can't fix it for you. You may have to PM the one who quoted wrong, or just PM a OC mod if it bugs you this much

ryan May 29th, 2004 8:11 PM

it doesn't bother me much, i was just saying.
gee... do i come off as that irrational?

katiobod June 2nd, 2004 3:54 AM

LOL SORRY rsgh5, i Quote i got was from 22sa. lol. I quoted three things and got the users mixed so i am sorry about that. But i can't edit something i have already posted days before can i?i Don't know and i am sorry again. ANY WAY can someone get us back on topic.?

ryan June 2nd, 2004 1:39 PM

it's no problem.
it was fun, today some girl asked me if i'd go to a dance with her. and i said no

crazydwarf12 June 2nd, 2004 6:59 PM

wow ryan your incredibly mean she was probably crushed, three guys in a row just like that bam bam bam and all because of you...

22sa June 5th, 2004 5:21 PM

Yeah, rsgh5, that sounds a bit too insensitive. ^^'

Chris'schick June 8th, 2004 5:56 AM

This is Katiobod's girlfriend, I hope I can give some of you dating frustrated males some tips on the female psych, because other than what you may believe most of us arn't too hard to understand... most of the time...

katiobod June 8th, 2004 6:38 AM

Off topic... YAY.. i got pictures you can all blame my girlfriend isn't she the best. And my signature is the biggest and best lol...... back on topic. my girlfriend joined to give advice from the opposite sex. So i hope between the two of us you guy's (no pun intended) will get a new love in your life...


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