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oloverdaone August 16th, 2006 4:03 AM

Milotic moveset help
 
high in sp att and speed, so either timid or modest? As i'll lower defence . Ev's maxing out sp att and speed. Moves:
Ice beam
surf
recover
reresh/toxic/safeguard (which do you guys recommend)

Need help/advice thank you:D

CoolLatios August 16th, 2006 4:29 AM

Both are pretty good, but I suggest Timid since Milotic has all the Sp. Atk. he needds.

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Trait: Marvel Scale
[Timid]
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Recover
-HYPNOSIS/Toxic

Standard.

Squarewalker August 16th, 2006 4:40 AM

Milotic is not a sweeper, so giving it a Timid nature and speed EVs are a waste, and so are more than 36-56 SAtk EVs. It needs Bold nature, along with max hp and max or nearly max defense (depending if you want to give it any SAtk or maybe SDef EVs), so that it can switch in on stuff like Metagross and Salamence on NB and in link battles with ease, but could be more useful even in-game than giving it max SAtk and Spd..

As for the moveset, Ice Beam/Recover/Surf/[Hypnosis/Toxic/Light Screen] or Rest/Sleep Talk/Surf/Toxic both work well enough.. Giving it Safeguard or Refresh is just a waste of a moveslot, considering that you actually want it to get statused because of its trait which boosts its defense by 1.5 when its statused..

np: A Perfect Circle - 3 Libras

Have a nice day.

n3croart August 16th, 2006 12:38 PM

This is my favourite:

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Timid Nature
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hypnosis
-Refresh/Recover

Like what CoolLatios said.

aragornbird August 16th, 2006 5:26 PM

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Didn’t you hear what Squarewalker said? Milotic is NOT a special sweeper, so DON’T give it Timid. Give it Bold.

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Mullet August 16th, 2006 5:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugialord
This is my favourite:

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Timid Nature
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hypnosis
-Refresh/Recover

Like what CoolLatios said.

Refresh is pointless as it needs a recovery move like Recover or Rest to give it more staying power. Milotic likes stats afflictions as it gets a boost from Marvel Scale.

oloverdaone August 17th, 2006 6:52 PM

Does anyone know a place where you can calculate EV and IV?

Mullet August 17th, 2006 8:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oloverdaone (Post 2225387)
Does anyone know a place where you can calculate EV and IV?

Just write down your EVs on a sheet of paper. There are IV calculators all over the net just do a Google search.

chrisatsilph August 19th, 2006 4:45 PM

if you want a quick sweeper milotic this is what you should do
make t have a modest nature
moves
hydro pump
blizzard
toxic
recover

this will make it powerful

jc_rcw August 19th, 2006 5:13 PM

milotic can't sweep, its a bulky water, and it's used to wall.

shanecdavis August 20th, 2006 4:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisatsilph (Post 2227684)
if you want a quick sweeper milotic this is what you should do
make t have a modest nature
moves
hydro pump
blizzard
toxic
recover

this will make it powerful

Hydro Pump and Blizzard are HORRIBLE moves on Milotic. As five other people have already said, Milotic is NOT a sweeper. There are much better options, even in-game.

chrisatsilph August 20th, 2006 11:11 PM

sorry i ment it can do alot of damage if in the right battle

oloverdaone August 21st, 2006 2:32 AM

What other movesets can milotic have? what do you guys reckon is best?

pikachuismyhomeboy. August 21st, 2006 6:03 AM

What about mirror coat on Milotic? If it has a high defense then it can take powerful special attacks then hit the opponent back double!

These are the moves I was planning to use:
Surf
Ice Beam
Recover
Mirror Coat

aragornbird August 21st, 2006 10:48 AM

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Mirror Coat can work, but it’s also problematic:

Opponent used Thunderbolt! (It does over half damage)
Milotic used Mirror Coat! (Opponent faints)

Trainers sends in fast and strong attacker.

Milotic isn’t fast enough to Recover the supereffective damage and can get defeated by the next Pokémon the opponent sends in.

Also, if your opponent doesn’t attack you and you use Mirror Coat, the element of surprise is lost. Mirror Coat only really works once, and that’s the first time you use it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oloverdaone (Post 2229220)
What other movesets can milotic have? what do you guys reckon is best?

Milotic can also be a Sleep Talker:

Milotic @Leftovers
Surf
Ice Beam
Rest
Sleep Talk

Marvel Scale activates during Sleep so it’s Defense will be 50% higher when it’s asleep.

That set can’t handle other Water Pokémon though.

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chrisatsilph August 21st, 2006 9:58 PM

how bout teaching it double team
someone told me this and said it was good
with Milotic cause it is hard to take down with its stats. these are moves my friend recommends

hydro pump
double team
ice beam
recover

n3croart August 21st, 2006 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisatsilph (Post 2230755)
how bout teaching it double team
someone told me this and said it was good
with Milotic cause it is hard to take down with its stats. these are moves my friend recommends

Surf
Hypnosis/Mirror Coat
Ice Beam
Recover

Well, to my point, look at this.

Hydro Pump has 80% accruracy and it will probally miss. Double Team is not good because you need a counter to fight back or else it will faint. Milotic is slow. My opinions in Bold.

Mullet August 22nd, 2006 9:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aragornbird (Post 2230080)
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Milotic can also be a Sleep Talker:

Milotic @Leftovers
Surf
Ice Beam
Rest
Sleep Talk

Marvel Scale activates during Sleep so it’s Defense will be 50% higher when it’s asleep.

That set can’t handle other Water Pokémon though.

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Toxic>Ice Beam is an option and helps with other water types.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisatsilph
how bout teaching it double team
someone told me this and said it was good
with Milotic cause it is hard to take down with its stats. these are moves my friend recommends

hydro pump
double team
ice beam
recover

Double Team is a waste of space as it is totaly luck based and you waste time DTing up and they WILL hit you. Pokemon like Suicune with Pressure are better at sucking PP as that is true all DT really does. =\

aragornbird August 22nd, 2006 9:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisatsilph (Post 2230755)
these are moves my friend recommends

Hehe, you shouldn’t listen to your friends then. Apparently, they aren’t good at Pokémon.

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oloverdaone August 22nd, 2006 10:20 AM

thanks guys, i'm thinking of using the :
milotic
moves:
toxic
surf
rest
sleep talk

any objections?

Mullet August 22nd, 2006 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oloverdaone (Post 2231356)
thanks guys, i'm thinking of using the :
milotic
moves:
toxic
surf
rest
sleep talk

any objections?

Good you listened lol. That set will work nicely.

n3croart August 22nd, 2006 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oloverdaone (Post 2231356)
thanks guys, i'm thinking of using the :
milotic
moves:
toxic
surf
rest
sleep talk

any objections?

Item: Leftovers

It's good when you're asleep and you heal health. And you can use Sleep Talk to attack. But remember, you might use Sleep Talk when you awake. The movesets are good.

Mullet August 22nd, 2006 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugialord (Post 2231494)
Item: Leftovers

It's good when you're asleep and you heal health. And you can use Sleep Talk to attack. But remember, you might use Sleep Talk when you awake. The movesets are good.

Not if you can count good sir.

Dsaerno August 22nd, 2006 6:50 PM

That's a pretty good moveset, but it doesn't have any water attacks, and Milotic is water type. My Milotic knows Surf, Dragonbreath, Attract and Recover. All of my friends hate it because it is so good. Plus, I bred to get it, so yeah...

Also, Leftovers is one of the three or so items that are the absolute best to use on a Pokemon. Scope Lens is great for OH-KOers, and Choice Band is perfect for sweepers. I don't use much else, because the items like Mystic Water stink. Don't put any item that boosts a type's attack on your Pokemon.

n3croart August 23rd, 2006 12:37 AM

This thread is settled:

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Bold Nature
-Surf
-Rest
-Toxic
-Sleep Talk

But I Like:

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Bold Nature
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Toxic
-Rest

Choose the top moveset. It's better.


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