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jj_olli January 18th, 2007 6:19 AM

My Cindaquil can't evolve in the latest beta, I train it on lv.14 beforegoing to MR. Pokemon and then the evolution screen comes, normal until it should change in quilava, then the screen turns to normal color and in the box it says "...?"

Twinx January 18th, 2007 6:40 AM

Great hack zel... I just wanna know... what keeps you motivated to keep hacking?
im just curious cos i tried hacking but it was really tiring, i gave up easily i guess... hehe

EDIT: BTW I NOTICED THAT IF YOU WALK IN FRONT OF THE ICE PATH (on the blue floor).. YOU CAN CATCH WILD POKEMON... I dunno if that classifies as a glitch... but just thought i'd let ya know ;)

zel 2.0 January 18th, 2007 7:13 AM

jj_olli: Of course it won't evolve, Johto pokes cannot evolve till you get the POKéDEX from Prof.Oak at Mr.Pokemon's House (telling the truth, he gives you the Nat.Dex, which is required to make the Johto pokes evolve). I'm not sure if it also happens with the Hoenn pokes? Can someone confirm this?

darkkchildd: I'm always motivated because I'm fed up with not having a Gold Remake. That's way I'll support every G/S Remake that's out there, hoping they became finished! (And of course, I'm doing all I can to make mine complete hehe...)

NICE! More Good News! Finally I understood the deal with the "evil" trees. Seems they need a Cut/Rock Smash sprite close (and it doesn't matter if they are "Hidden"), because the script that makes the pokes appear require that the animation on those kind of sprites should be executed.
Meaning? I'm gonna be putting extra hidden Cut trees close by the areas with Heabutt Trees, you may notice the classic animation when you are cutting a tree (not the tree itself, just the animation, remember the trees are gonna be "Hidden"), but, hey! at least the Headbutt Trees will work 100% safe! I'd need to insert extra sprites... That, for Friday...

DiamondDust January 18th, 2007 9:13 AM

Yay... no more evil trees.

Now imagine there was a season change.
Every time a few days go by a new season comes, Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter.
Just joking. I'll try to get onto that when a real Diamond/Pearl rom comes and tools to hack it with, and when i learn how to script.

Unborn-Lugia January 18th, 2007 9:37 AM

Zel i looked for mahogany town and some others and i couldnt find them on advancemap... any help?

Shadow Weavile January 18th, 2007 11:14 AM

Great hack :P ( u heard that a 1000 times i think but hè ) i like what u revamped etc. ....

Ahegil January 18th, 2007 11:17 AM

http://i1.*.com/2z8te6d.png
thats a problem fix it pease

Liquinn January 18th, 2007 11:48 AM

Looking good.

Shame about the 100 glitches lol

Alistair January 18th, 2007 12:03 PM

Aghil, please describe that screenshot.

Anyway, glad to see you are working on getting the headbutt trees working right. Keep up the good work!

Law07 January 18th, 2007 12:33 PM

Hey class make.

Just need to fix the glitches as there are loads. But a great game comes with great effort ;)

When do you estimate the full version will be released?

Deokishisu January 18th, 2007 12:42 PM

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Hey zel, found a glitch. It said something about Ard in the first post but, it wasn't very specific. I battled Ard once in National Park and everything went fine. However, I reloaded my savestate and battled him again and... after the battle... he went to the right instead of down. He crashes the game too. Here's a screenie.

Attachment 36079 See? Just a heads up. I love beta3 so far. The Berry Trees are very useful. Good job.

Joe Fantasy January 18th, 2007 1:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurikenway (Post 2359520)
i could care less about misty, im talking about the "ash and gary" part, it doesnt make sense to why zel should consider taking their anime names, since game names, are more important. At least to the remake.

Lol, oh ok. That was just an idea since it would make the game seem cooler...

HackChu January 18th, 2007 2:33 PM

i cant wait till pokemon shinygold gets finished

Alex January 18th, 2007 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zel
I'm not sure if it also happens with the Hoenn pokes? Can someone confirm this?
They evolve fine if you have the Nat. Dex. Don't worry. But if you don't have Nat. then the ...? screen comes up.

furrypaws16 January 18th, 2007 5:22 PM

I believe that is the girl protaganist. If so, then DON'T USE HER. She is messed up due to the palette change, and Zel hasn't gotten around to changing her.

stunt296 January 18th, 2007 5:38 PM

Wow...I havn't been on PC in a REALLY long time...I only came to get some utilities for the hack I'm going to make. It's gonna be a hack with all 3 regions(Nice eh?). Anyways, I thought I'd drop by the Hack Showcase and yea...I saw this. It looks really good, by my opinion, the best G/S remake I've seen. So keep up the good work! You guys are already at Blackthorn wich is pretty far. It IS half way through the game, that is if you are going to add Kanto. But it still looks awesome at the moment. I'm gonna try it man. See how it is. Hopefully you'll add Kanto. I want Lugia :P

Goku Goku January 18th, 2007 6:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stunt296 (Post 2360412)
Wow...I havn't been on PC in a REALLY long time...I only came to get some utilities for the hack I'm going to make. It's gonna be a hack with all 3 regions(Nice eh?). Anyways, I thought I'd drop by the Hack Showcase and yea...I saw this. It looks really good, by my opinion, the best G/S remake I've seen. So keep up the good work! You guys are already at Blackthorn wich is pretty far. It IS half way through the game, that is if you are going to add Kanto. But it still looks awesome at the moment. I'm gonna try it man. See how it is. Hopefully you'll add Kanto. I want Lugia :P

Of course it is, but I wouldn't say it's half-way, because Kanto ain't too long, unless Zel plans to add some more events and what-not in Kanto, which hopefully he can. But he's defiantely too far ahead to give up now! Really this remake is full of surprises! :)

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Originally Posted by chibaymaga12 (Post 2360428)
OK, so I've patched everything and now i need to open the modified rom and its telling me that it still needs to look up the file that created it. Can someone help me?

SG's a hack of FireRed, so get a clean copy of FireRed, put it in the same folder as that SG patch, and rename it the same thing the the patch's named. I hope this helps...though really you should be asking it via PM. :\

Training takes so long, especially with the VS Seeker being stuffy...oh well, I'm only playing SG, so it won't be as long as playing SGX. :\

light_trainer921 January 19th, 2007 2:09 AM

Has anyone ask about the pallete problem about the overworld sprite by using fly? Because I was just using fly to go to Cianwood and I encountered this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/gaston770/1635-PokemonFireRedUSquirrels.jpg

Is this a glitch or what cause I this is a male character?

martijn January 19th, 2007 2:49 AM

What annoys me the most is the berry/apricorn trees. Because when you pick one tree, the others won't give anything for a while. And now I know how to get Espeon, I'm gonna try and enter the Bug-Catching Contest right away :)
Btw, what determines when you can enter?

zel 2.0 January 19th, 2007 5:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahegil (Post 2360129)
http://i1.*.com/2z8te6d.png
thats a problem fix it pease

I guess you are refering to not being able to use surf there, right? (Cause you are using the messy female trainer, but I told not to use her in my first post). If it's about that, the mapping problem has been corrected.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unborn-Lugia (Post 2360085)
Zel i looked for mahogany town and some others and i couldnt find them on advancemap... any help?

Well, I can't say much else about them. They are on Map Banks 2 and 34... Nothing more... (In B3, of course). You can enter the Contest after two events have happened: The defeat/capture of Sudo, and the victory over Mahogany's Gym.

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Originally Posted by craiglaw2006 (Post 2360194)
Hey class make.

Just need to fix the glitches as there are loads. But a great game comes with great effort ;)

When do you estimate the full version will be released?

If new glitches keep coming up, it gets delayed a bit more every day. I estimate the weekend, but don't desperate if it gets delayed a few days. I want to make it less-glitchy this time!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deokishisu (Post 2360207)
Hey zel, found a glitch. It said something about Ard in the first post but, it wasn't very specific. I battled Ard once in National Park and everything went fine. However, I reloaded my savestate and battled him again and... after the battle... he went to the right instead of down. He crashes the game too. Here's a screenie.

Attachment 36079 See? Just a heads up. I love beta3 so far. The Berry Trees are very useful. Good job.

I wonder where did you saved in your savestate. Anyway, the Ard problem was about him running, while you could still walk. Now, there's a pause command, so you won't be able to move till Ard dissappears. That should fix it, but, it'll be tested.

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Originally Posted by light_trainer921 (Post 2360640)
Has anyone ask about the pallete problem about the overworld sprite by using fly? Because I was just using fly to go to Cianwood and I encountered this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/gaston770/1635-PokemonFireRedUSquirrels.jpg

Is this a glitch or what cause I this is a male character?

No... Similar problem to the female trainer... However, it's really a quick animation, so I thought you wouldn't mind... Do you? :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by martijn (Post 2360663)
What annoys me the most is the berry/apricorn trees. Because when you pick one tree, the others won't give anything for a while. And now I know how to get Espeon, I'm gonna try and enter the Bug-Catching Contest right away :)
Btw, what determines when you can enter?

Well, martijn, let's see: Get a bunch a berries in a day, and need to way for the next day; or get a berry, wait 3/5 minutes, get another and so on... The result is much the same (or better, it depends...)

On other news, I've contacted Gridiron and Fangking Omega to ask for the proper permissions, fortunately I've gotten them, so well, at least I can still use what I had put. (Not only that, I've also gotten supportive words from them, which makes me even more happy ^^) With that straigthened, I can keep on finishing the fix of the trees, and a few new glitches that have appeared... Busy life... See ya later, guys! *Goes to update the List of Glitches*

dakelland12 January 19th, 2007 5:21 AM

zel will kanto be different ?

rkevinc1 January 19th, 2007 6:40 AM

tum te tum
 
tume te te tum tum tum.... finished beta 3..... it's time to go back to the 'wait for the next beta game'! oh, goody! lol but beta 3 is gr8 zel gr8 job!

DiamondDust January 19th, 2007 8:58 AM

I couldn't download it last time, but now i am!
I think i'm gonna have a hard time and i'm working on a Hacking Project for my friends.

TreeckoLv.100 January 19th, 2007 10:03 AM

Wow, you guys finish it fast. Take your time, dang. Well, I'm just probably slow.:(

Well zel, the whole thing so far is wonderful to me. I've got to give you props man. So later, are you going to make like special tiles for Johto? That would be nice. If you don't get what I mean, I meant "Are you going to put in some Johto tiles? I see you did, but are you gonna change even more tiles to make it look like Johto instead of FR?" Okay, I'm not so good with asking questions, oh well. One more thing, but I'll PM you about it.

Once again, good...nice...great...wonderful...aah forget it! Tip top job you've done man.:D

Ahegil January 19th, 2007 12:50 PM

no no
your not suposed to be able to get there and i have no problem with the coor lol didint notice intill you siad something about it

http://i1.*.com/2z8te6d.png

Alistair January 19th, 2007 2:18 PM

By the look of it, you are supposed to be able to get there. You are supposed to be able to walk underneath that part of the tree. The problem there is that there are no rocks preventing you from surfing into an unsurfable area.

Anyway, quote from Zel on that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2360757)
I guess you are refering to not being able to use surf there, right? (Cause you are using the messy female trainer, but I told not to use her in my first post). If it's about that, the mapping problem has been corrected.


Kiri-note January 19th, 2007 3:36 PM

Hi, I'm having a problem loading the game...
I don't know if this was asked before, sorry for not checking but it's very late and it's 52 pages <_<
So yeah, I have gold ROM, changed the name of the patch blah blah blah all that.
But when I load the game I just get a white screen.... It's not the rom because I checked the rom....

Do you know what it might be?

bobpickle January 19th, 2007 3:47 PM

Are pokemon like Golem, Gengar, and Steelix accessible through this game.
I might have to reconsider catching them if they are
Just wondering

zel 2.0 January 19th, 2007 3:49 PM

T-100 and dakelland, I'll answer your questions/comments next time.

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Originally Posted by Kiri-note (Post 2361117)
Hi, I'm having a problem loading the game...
I don't know if this was asked before, sorry for not checking but it's very late and it's 52 pages <_<
So yeah, I have gold ROM, changed the name of the patch blah blah blah all that.
But when I load the game I just get a white screen.... It's not the rom because I checked the rom....

Do you know what it might be?

Excuses, excuses. This thread may be 52 pages long, but I've already went through the trouble of reading ALL the questions made in those 52 pages (I wonder if Jeremy ever did that... LOL), and posted a FAQs in my first post.

For your case, I think you are a bit confused, this is a hack for Fire Red. Which means you need a FIRE RED rom, a patching utility (as LIPS or IPSXP), my patch (located at the bottom of my first post), and read the following thread http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=73966, or perhaps my short summary I've made in my FAQs, or if everything else fails, PM me...

Kiri-note January 19th, 2007 3:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2361130)
Excuses, excuses. This thread may be 52 pages long, but I've already went through the trouble of reading ALL the questions made in those 52 pages (I wonder if Jeremy ever did that... LOL), and posted a FAQs in my first post.

For your case, I think you are a bit confused, this is a hack for Fire Red. Which means you need a FIRE RED rom, a patching utility (as LIPS or IPSXP), my patch (located at the bottom of my first post),...

Pwned O_O
*uses the very late excuse*

Well thanks, sorry for taking your time ^^;

Deokishisu January 19th, 2007 6:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2360757)
I wonder where did you saved in your savestate. Anyway, the Ard problem was about him running, while you could still walk. Now, there's a pause command, so you won't be able to move till Ard dissappears. That should fix it, but, it'll be tested.

I saved in Goldenrod and went back up. It stops me from moving until he stops at the spot shown in the attachment. I tested a few more times and it happened 2/10 times not counting the one I mentioned earlier. I wonder why it happens so randomly... I'm not experienced in this stuff but, could it be a flag? Or an overwritten applymovement movements? Or just my ROM? (No way! My ROMs clean.) Oh well, good luck!

lloyd January 19th, 2007 7:20 PM

hey i was one of the people that bought the game on a cartridge for sp lol i was wondering if i could still battle people with people that own emerald and FR,etc.

and how do you evolve kadabra, haunter, machoke?!?!

Alex January 19th, 2007 7:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lloyd (Post 2361320)
hey i was one of the people that bought the game on a cartridge for sp lol i was wondering if i could still battle people with people that own emerald and FR,etc.

and how do you evolve kadabra, haunter, machoke?!?!

I don't know how to, zel doesn't wanna give that info away *sadness*

Anyway, you bought it and it wasn't even finished?! Wow....

lloyd January 19th, 2007 7:32 PM

lol i didnt even know, i was in the philippines on vacation and i asked what was the latest game at a store in a mall and they said shiny gold, so i bought it haha its working fine for me so far haha i never knew it was a hack until i bought it and looked at this forum

i just want to know if i can battle tho i hope you can lol i just want to battle my buddie

Midnight Beat January 19th, 2007 7:55 PM

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When I entered Mohogany this weird cut tree that would'nt go away if I cut it and when I went into a building it left. Then I flew away and it came back!

Alex January 19th, 2007 8:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zach805 (Post 2361346)
When I entered Mohogany this weird cut tree that would'nt go away if I cut it and when I went into a building it left. Then I flew away and it came back!

OH MY GOD READ THE FIRST DAMN POST!

Okay that's out of my system. That glitch was already posted, before posting any glitches read the first post!

Anyways, hey does anyone know how to/where to get a Moon Stone in this game? I really want an Umbreon.

Krobelus January 19th, 2007 8:22 PM

Spoiler much?

I never knew you get an umbreon from a moon stone.. .....thanx...

Anyway.. I know where the starters are, xD

Alex January 19th, 2007 8:25 PM

No need for spoilers, it's been said alot that since there is no night and day Espeon comes from Eevee+Sun Stone, and Umbreon comes from Eevee+Moon Stone. So, anyone know?

Defender January 19th, 2007 10:50 PM

Any Mac versions? And if no can you make one

*Shinigami* January 20th, 2007 12:03 AM

Great work on V3 Zel! I'm glad you haven't given up like so many remakes have done before. Great job! o^ - ^o

Krobelus January 20th, 2007 12:14 AM

I dont think he will give up, but I would like to see what he will do when he is fully finished this hack.

davidm January 20th, 2007 2:23 AM

please help me i dont know where the 7th gym is and where do i get whirlpool n dat please reply back

Matt Silver January 20th, 2007 2:57 AM

^ The 7th Gym is in Mahagony Town. Go east (Via Surf) from Ectruteak and do some stuff there. Whirlpool will be given after that stuff.

Sorry to spoil anyone. 0_0

Anyways I finished V3 and are playing SGX (Is kinda difficult) and I'm proud of the work done. Of course the game has its glitches but it is pretty fun overall. The suprise rivals are great fun too.

I can't wait for the next beta, keep it up you are doing awesome!

davidm January 20th, 2007 3:11 AM

can i get frm cianwood to mahogan ?? if so how ?

DiamondDust January 20th, 2007 5:42 AM

Try reading the first post davidm to find out if you can.
If it doesn't than search everywhere, HMS like surf and find different routes.

zel 2.0 January 20th, 2007 5:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dakelland12 (Post 2360759)
zel will kanto be different ?

If you are trying to refer to maps, they should look as the maps in the original Gold, that's my goal (I wouldn't like to leave them as they look in FR). If you are refering to events, there will be new events (mainly a few legendaries... That's all I can say)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeckoLv.100 (Post 2360917)
Wow, you guys finish it fast. Take your time, dang. Well, I'm just probably slow.:(

Well zel, the whole thing so far is wonderful to me. I've got to give you props man. So later, are you going to make like special tiles for Johto? That would be nice. If you don't get what I mean, I meant "Are you going to put in some Johto tiles? I see you did, but are you gonna change even more tiles to make it look like Johto instead of FR?" Okay, I'm not so good with asking questions, oh well. One more thing, but I'll PM you about it.

Once again, good...nice...great...wonderful...aah forget it! Tip top job you've done man.:D

Slow is good... I mean you don't enjoy chocolate if you ate in one bite... LOL!!! XD

About tiles changing, you know me... I'm not as "tile changing" fan as you, T100! (Still, something I will do, if I have time, and I'm bored of doing nothing...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by marz (Post 2361367)
Anyways, hey does anyone know how to/where to get a Moon Stone in this game? I really want an Umbreon.

Spoiler:
You'll find one in a cave... Not telling which, of course, but now you have a better clue...


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Originally Posted by davidm (Post 2361660)
can i get frm cianwood to mahogan ?? if so how ?

By using the route to the right of Ecruteak. lol?

I'll see if tomorrow I have a Beta worth of being posted... At least everything is running fine with the trees, with Silver in Ecruteak, and with a bunch of other things...

Short post, wasn't it? XD

ceEDee January 20th, 2007 5:51 AM

hei man good job on this hack i really love it. i played through it yesterday and just can't stop playing it. anyways i have som questions, i realeased the legendary dog trio and i'm just wondering how do i find or is it not put in the Beta yet that they are running freely?

aglids January 20th, 2007 5:59 AM

Wow. Just... wow. This game is amazing. I'm really slow, so I only just beat Falkner, but so far it looks great. I almost forgot to create a copy of FR so I could have both, but then I remembered I had a shiny Charmeleon xD Anyway, keep up the good work. If I could point out a typo, the man who gives you the miracle seed after beating Violet Gym says "form" instead of "from." Not important, but I just noticed lol.

slayeryu12 January 20th, 2007 7:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceEDee (Post 2361862)
hei man good job on this hack i really love it. i played through it yesterday and just can't stop playing it. anyways i have som questions, i realeased the legendary dog trio and i'm just wondering how do i find or is it not put in the Beta yet that they are running freely?

i don't think he put it in the beta yet he said he was gonna do sumthing else with the legendary dogs

Midnight Beat January 20th, 2007 7:43 AM

Marz:
My bad, I keep forgetting he updated that.

davidm January 20th, 2007 7:47 AM

when i got the gym badge in Ecruteak i go right and some guy asks me to buy something i say no and i go forward i see 1 of my rivals and then i try go into that blue cave but i cant ?

Silent Storm January 20th, 2007 8:04 AM

I like how this hack is going.

And zel, your a legend.

Alex January 20th, 2007 8:15 AM

lol zel, but you're forgetting, we only have access to so many caves in the game since it is, after all, just a beta. I mean there's only 5 (only??)... Dark Cave, Union Cave, Slowpoke Well/Rainmaker Well, Whirl Islands & Mt. Mortar. Eh... Okay so there are quite a few caves to look through. But which one?? I'm sort of busy I don't like have time to look through every single cave... Tell me in a PM if you're afraid a spoiler will ruin it for everyone (I mean, who doesn't open up a spoiler? The fact that it's a spoiler just makes the person want to open it more...)

EDIT: I looked on Serebii's FR Pokedex, Umbreon doesn't learn a S.T.A.B. attack until level 30-something. And I was going to beat Morty with it... So maybe I'll go with Espeon, I mean, I already have a Sun Stone..?

RE-EDIT: Espeon's S.T.A.B. attack doesn't come until Level 36... It would come at level 16, but we get the Eevee at level 20... I think Bill should give us the Eevee at level 15...

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidm (Post 2361957)
when i got the gym badge in Ecruteak i go right and some guy asks me to buy something i say no and i go forward i see 1 of my rivals and then i try go into that blue cave but i cant ?

What are you talking about?? Please describe better and this time use commas.

ceEDee January 20th, 2007 8:17 AM

Davidm when you reach that blue cave that is Icy path you have reached the end of the beta or at least you can't enter it cause Zel isn't finished with the hack yet.
and btw Zel good luck with you'r hack further.

davidm January 20th, 2007 8:25 AM

oh ok i thought that i done something wrong is that where u went up to aaswell ?

ceEDee January 20th, 2007 8:50 AM

yep that's where i went. but don't worry sonn a new beta is out as far as i understand that is if Zel fixes all the bugs without problems.

Unborn-Lugia January 20th, 2007 9:01 AM

Zel... could you please send me mahogony town and the towns after that in a pm please

MickyD January 20th, 2007 10:32 AM

Hey man, I've been playing your ShinyGold game, and I am very impressed by it. You have done very proffessional work in this game, and I commend you on your achievement! Anyways, I'm writing to give a few pointers for the next release of ShinyGold:

1. For the Fly screen, use the Kanto map and rename each of the towns, so that it will make it so much easier to Fly. I have had major problems with Flying since you have to be in a specific town to Fly somewhere.

2. For Red Gyarados, don't worry about making it shiny, just work on changing the sprite from the Male character to a Gyarados.

3. With the Trees, Lapras, and Kurt, I would make it like a regular event instead of a time-based scedule, to avoid confusion. Like, Lapras is always there, but only available once. And make the trees into regular Berry trees, the ones Nintendo made, to make it easier to get berries.

Just a bit of advice, but I really love your game! Keep up the work, and just as a suggestion, I would like to see a hack of FireRed where you could go to a new Region, like Johto or Hoenn. Just throwing it out there, you know.

Keep on rommin!
MickyD

Random January 20th, 2007 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickyD (Post 2362092)
Hey man, I've been playing your ShinyGold game, and I am very impressed by it. You have done very proffessional work in this game, and I commend you on your achievement! Anyways, I'm writing to give a few pointers for the next release of ShinyGold:

1. For the Fly screen, use the Kanto map and rename each of the towns, so that it will make it so much easier to Fly. I have had major problems with Flying since you have to be in a specific town to Fly somewhere.

2. For Red Gyarados, don't worry about making it shiny, just work on changing the sprite from the Male character to a Gyarados.

3. With the Trees, Lapras, and Kurt, I would make it like a regular event instead of a time-based scedule, to avoid confusion. Like, Lapras is always there, but only available once. And make the trees into regular Berry trees, the ones Nintendo made, to make it easier to get berries.

Just a bit of advice, but I really love your game! Keep up the work, and just as a suggestion, I would like to see a hack of FireRed where you could go to a new Region, like Johto or Hoenn. Just throwing it out there, you know.

Keep on rommin!
MickyD

Ok here's a few things you should know...

1. Zel needs the Kanto map for earlier on in the game when you go into kanto, so he NEEDS the islands instead for Johto, and flying works, you just need to get used to not flying everywhere PERIOD.

2. Zel doesnt want to worry about those sprites yet. ex. Ampharos, gyarados, etc.

3. There is no day/nights events in FR, so zel cant do anything about it, unless if he figured out a script. So all he can do is Schedule based stuff, which I have no problem with. Theres nothing wrong with the Apricorn trees, you can always come back for more berries after being picked for a time set. Plus zel will have a Berry Shop, in Kanto, so youll have plenty of berries, in the later betas.

Please Check the Glitch list, your not the only one who notices these...

http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=74447
EDIT: Plus This is Gold remake, So no Hoenn or any or other region, ah, geez just check the list, everyone!

Silent Storm January 20th, 2007 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurikenway (Post 2362112)
Ok here's a few things you should know...

1. Zel needs the Kanto map for earlier on in the game when you go into kanto, so he NEEDS the islands instead for Johto, and flying works, you just need to get used to not flying everywhere PERIOD.

2. Zel doesnt want to worry about those sprites yet. ex. Ampharos, gyarados, etc.

3. There is no day/nights events in FR, so zel cant do anything about it, unless if he figured out a script. So all he can do is Schedule based stuff, which I have no problem with. Theres nothing wrong with the Apricorn trees, you can always come back for more berries after being picked for a time set. Plus zel will have a Berry Shop, in Kanto, so youll have plenty of berries, in the later betas.

Please Check the Glitch list, your not the only one who notices these...

http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=74447
EDIT: Plus This is Gold remake, So no Hoenn or any or other region, ah, geez just check the list, everyone!

Umm, in order for zel to do day and night he would have to crack the game coding, hack the weather conditions program, and make it so only one weather condition is present in the game, plus if he is gamefreak material he would need to be able to convert a circuit board(which FR runs on) into a internal clock, create(not add)a clock script but by converting he would make it unstable and it would crash on him. Much more complicated than 1 srcipt.

Hell, he was lucky enough to do headbutt trees other stuff.

Legendary Squirtle January 20th, 2007 1:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marz (Post 2361978)

RE-EDIT: Espeon's S.T.A.B. attack doesn't come until Level 36... It would come at level 16, but we get the Eevee at level 20... I think Bill should give us the Eevee at level 15...

Wellits a gold remake and you get Eevee at lvl 20 in gold. You couild try breeding the eevee, to get a eevee at lvl 5. I dont know if it works cause I didn't try.

El Diabeetus January 20th, 2007 2:41 PM

Wow zel your doing a great job on this theres just one thing i found weird in the lake of rage gyrados has the players overworld and isn't shiny

Goku Goku January 20th, 2007 2:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furanki Pkmn Master (Post 2362286)
Wow zel your doing a great job on this theres just one thing i found weird in the lake of rage gyrados has the players overworld and isn't shiny

It helps to read the first post Furanki - that way it'll explain things better. ;)

LOL I'm slow at playing thegame, and at times I have no time to play at all. Why not I post my team *cough*:

Quilava Lv. 25
Marshstomp Lv. 26
Flaafy Lv. 25
Breloom Lv. 25
Espeon Lv. 20

As you see, I've covered the essential types. Now all I need is flying, and maybe ice...if I don't trade for Articuno, there's always Delibrid, right? (But that'll wait for the next beta. ;) ) Well, I'm terrbily slow, but maybe you guys should post your teams too, and let's discuss that. I mean, it does have to do with SG/SGX, doesn't it? :nervous:

aglids January 20th, 2007 3:37 PM

Me again. I don't know if this was posted before because I don't have time to read through, but on the glitch list I noticed the probelm with the TR toll guys on Route 43. I talked to the guy and he offered to heal my Pokemon. I chose yes, and three Pokeballs lined up at the side of the room and half of a computer screen flashed and played the healing noise. Then the guy turned into Professor Elm... a weird glitch.

Alex January 20th, 2007 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Squirtle (Post 2362227)
Wellits a gold remake and you get Eevee at lvl 20 in gold. You couild try breeding the eevee, to get a eevee at lvl 5. I dont know if it works cause I didn't try.

To breed you need 2 Eevees or 1 Ditto. I already have one eevee, where can I get another one, or where can I get a Ditto? Spoiler it if you must.

Random January 20th, 2007 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aglids (Post 2362357)
Me again. I don't know if this was posted before because I don't have time to read through, but on the glitch list I noticed the probelm with the TR toll guys on Route 43. I talked to the guy and he offered to heal my Pokemon. I chose yes, and three Pokeballs lined up at the side of the room and half of a computer screen flashed and played the healing noise. Then the guy turned into Professor Elm... a weird glitch.

Huh...? this was inside the toll place in Route 43 right, there must be a PC script in there that heals your pokemon, Zel should probably removed that, was it one of the TR guys you talk to at the time?

Skeetendo, Inc. January 20th, 2007 4:56 PM

Very nice looking! Can't wait for it to be finished! I've always loved Gold and Silver :P So I know this is going to be good :D

Chiaki Shinichi January 20th, 2007 7:49 PM

This is one of the best gold remake for firered, zel.
I have been playing your hacks and waiting for the next beta.
I support POKEMON SHINY GOLD

Twinx January 21st, 2007 1:11 AM

Hey zel, found a couple of glitches.. i dunno if they've been reported yet...

1- i used teleport from the route near the ice path, i ended up in KANTO, route 3 or somethin'.. i think there's something wrong with the pokemon center in MAGHONITY
BTW WHY ARE KANTO'S TILES SO MESSED UP?

2- try FISHING WHILE SURFING.. it looks like there are 2 trainers are on the laprass....

*SHINY GOLD ADDICT* hehehehe

cgnius January 21st, 2007 1:32 AM

I have no idea how this happened but I just received an egg from daycare after leaving Ditto and beautifly there. The Egg hasn't hatched yet but it's named "spinarak" instead of "Egg"

Goldenhammerhead January 21st, 2007 1:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgnius (Post 2362838)
I have no idea how this happened but I just received an egg from daycare after leaving Ditto and beautifly there. The Egg hasn't hatched yet but it's named "spinarak" instead of "Egg"

that is simerler to when my mantine turned into an egg named mantine

Twinx January 21st, 2007 1:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgnius (Post 2362838)
I have no idea how this happened but I just received an egg from daycare after leaving Ditto and beautifly there. The Egg hasn't hatched yet but it's named "spinarak" instead of "Egg"

Probably a bad egg? Im guessing it's not gonna hatch...

davidm January 21st, 2007 4:48 AM

what is the latest beta out ?

aglids January 21st, 2007 6:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurikenway (Post 2362419)
Huh...? this was inside the toll place in Route 43 right, there must be a PC script in there that heals your pokemon, Zel should probably removed that, was it one of the TR guys you talk to at the time?

Yeah, it was the male Team Rocket member. The girl just told me that Bill's PC can store up to 30 Pokemon, but it didn't seem as weird as the healing guy.

zel 2.0 January 21st, 2007 6:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aglids (Post 2361872)
the man who gives you the miracle seed after beating Violet Gym says "form" instead of "from." Not important, but I just noticed lol.

Thanks. Fixed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unborn-Lugia (Post 2362020)
Zel... could you please send me mahogony town and the towns after that in a pm please

I'll see if I can (at least I'll send you a few...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickyD (Post 2362092)
1. For the Fly screen, use the Kanto map and rename each of the towns, so that it will make it so much easier to Fly. I have had major problems with Flying since you have to be in a specific town to Fly somewhere.

2. For Red Gyarados, don't worry about making it shiny, just work on changing the sprite from the Male character to a Gyarados.

3. With the Trees, Lapras, and Kurt, I would make it like a regular event instead of a time-based scedule, to avoid confusion. Like, Lapras is always there, but only available once. And make the trees into regular Berry trees, the ones Nintendo made, to make it easier to get berries.

1. Probably that's a thing I could do, if you don't worry to have the same problem as you have with Johto right now, once you reach Kanto... That, till a way to edit the maps of FR using Cyclone shows up. (Or till I decide to really get into it, but that's gonna be time consuming, for now, gameplay)

2. Lazy to make a Gyarados of my own (but I'll have to, someday)

3. I think they are funny to use them as they are now. It's a matter of opinions, but, seeing as I like them... :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by aglids (Post 2362357)
I noticed the probelm with the TR toll guys on Route 43. I talked to the guy and he offered to heal my Pokemon. I chose yes, and three Pokeballs lined up at the side of the room and half of a computer screen flashed and played the healing noise. Then the guy turned into Professor Elm... a weird glitch.

Even though posted in my List of Glitches, I think it should be fixed (but I say "I think" because, according to the script, there was a mistake in flags, so you should be paying the 1000 at the toll, even when the rockets are not there. However, that never happened to me. So it'll have to be checked again.
And, I changed the rockets script, now they just say random stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkkchildd (Post 2362828)
Hey zel, found a couple of glitches.. i dunno if they've been reported yet...

1- i used teleport from the route near the ice path, i ended up in KANTO, route 3 or somethin'.. i think there's something wrong with the pokemon center in MAGHONITY
BTW WHY ARE KANTO'S TILES SO MESSED UP?

2- try FISHING WHILE SURFING.. it looks like there are 2 trainers are on the laprass....

1. Have you tried using Teleport in other places as well? I guess I don't care much about Teleport, since I usually Fly to places. I guess I won't be able to do anything about every single field move. I'm sorry... :(

2. I think I'm gonna put the surfing sprite as it was before... It looks nice the hero on Lapras, but... if people care about problems originated for it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgnius (Post 2362838)
I have no idea how this happened but I just received an egg from daycare after leaving Ditto and beautifly there. The Egg hasn't hatched yet but it's named "spinarak" instead of "Egg"

What? Just a thing... I'm using the original Day-Care script, so, see if you get another weird egg. Another bug that's out of my league... So, I'll use my typical excuse... "A bad rom, or a bad patching" lol

Sadly, since it seems that a few events are repeating (like, Ard's event at Nat.Park, Route43, or the Couple at Lake of Rage, etc.) I'm gonna be making a good list of the flags I've been using (imagine how big it'll be, considering the number of flags I need for the game). Probably I'll end up with a lot of repeated flags. This list will take me the following week, so until then, I cannot release anything yet. I'm hoping to avoid any other kind of problems, so it also will be seriously tested before getting released.

OK, sorry for delaying things. It's all to make SG less-buggy. Thanks for your comprehension. See ya!

daniel_h January 21st, 2007 9:09 AM

save yourself some time zel and ask somebody else to make a gyarados sprite for you...im sure somebody off this topic will be happy to help if it means you can spend that time working on more important stuff

illsoul January 21st, 2007 10:13 AM

If you lose to Carlos in front of ice path next time you go there, he won't be there anymore when you go back.

ShinyLugia January 21st, 2007 11:20 AM

Zel i think you should let the surfing sprite as is. Its so beautiful and it really resembles me of the original gold. As for the fishing glitch, how about make it not able to fish in the water? I never liked this feature, and I dont think it would be a great loss.

shadow ho-oh January 21st, 2007 12:05 PM

the guide
 
to Zel and everyone else

the website guide for Shiny Gold X is almost ready to start (my guest about another week)

if u dont know about the site i probally only told Zel in a pm and not a post but it will be ready as soon as possible

alos i have a gyrados sprite sheet in my sig
i used the original and customed it for all sides

VirusX January 21st, 2007 12:24 PM

Im getting a notifaction when i try to play that there is no image. Can anyone help?

shadow ho-oh January 21st, 2007 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirusX (Post 2363332)
Im getting a notifaction when i try to play that there is no image. Can anyone help?

try going to the simple questions in the stickies of the emulation section

silver wind January 21st, 2007 1:01 PM

lol. Zel, don't you think the slowpoke fight right i the beginning is a bit too hard?
if it wasn't for the berry+ 2 potion I had with me.. I would never be able to beat carlos and move on.
but other than that, I'm enjoying the challenge of "x" version. keep up the good job :)

daniel_h January 21st, 2007 1:23 PM

too hard....thats what shiny gold X is all about :)

ASHYLEGS January 21st, 2007 2:27 PM

FARFETCH'D IS MAKING ME CRAZY!!!![/anger]

....sigh... How do I get it to go to its trainer?

Alex January 21st, 2007 2:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASHYLEGS (Post 2363457)
FARFETCH'D IS MAKING ME CRAZY!!!![/anger]

....sigh... How do I get it to go to its trainer?

You'll get it eventually, you have to make him warp off screen, and to do that you need to really think of what angle you're talking to Farfetch'd from.

ASHYLEGS January 21st, 2007 2:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marz (Post 2363461)
You'll get it eventually, you have to make him warp off screen, and to do that you need to really think of what angle you're talking to Farfetch'd from.

Darn it...Any clues to help?

EDIT; Finally!!!! I got it!

horsegon1 January 21st, 2007 4:38 PM

wee shiny gold.. need beta 4 getting bored with my life

Random January 21st, 2007 4:50 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ASHYLEGS (Post 2363463)
Darn it...Any clues to help?

EDIT; Finally!!!! I got it!

Well for those who are still hunting the Farfetch'd, i thought i would save you guys time. If you guys dont want to struggle that much, then you can click on my attachments. Theres two of them, so the one thats said "Player" is the one that the player must go in order to complete this task, The farfetch'd one is just to show how the farfetch'd must go in order. And those who don't want the spoiler, then don't bother. GOOD LUCK!







Goldenhammerhead January 21st, 2007 5:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2363043)

What? Just a thing... I'm using the original Day-Care script, so, see if you get another weird egg. Another bug that's out of my league... So, I'll use my typical excuse... "A bad rom, or a bad patching"

OK, sorry for delaying things. It's all to make SG less-buggy. Thanks for your comprehension. See ya!

Remember when i reported the 2 bad eggs. One of them didnt say "bad egg" it was my mantine and and it was still called "mantine"

Saken January 22nd, 2007 12:47 AM

In New Bark Town, The signpost outside Elm's House doesnt say Elm's House it says nothing. Not even the clicking sound when you press A on it.

Giovanni.

Kiyoshikane January 22nd, 2007 12:52 AM

Why is everyone posting glitches? It will make zel crazy, and then he'll probably try to quit this thread. :(
Give it in a PM, so that you don't waste pages talking about how glitchy glitchy these betas are.

... Maybe that's a bad idea :(

Anyways, nothing to say except keep up the good work in your hack.
Good luck~

Arashi January 22nd, 2007 7:12 AM

Well, now that I have the chance, I'll talk about my experience with SGX. ^^

I did not get Shiny Gold at all. (Heck, I didn't know there were two versions when I downloaded it...) And here's what I gotta say: Shiny Gold X wasn't that much of a challenge for me considering the fact that I only train one Pokemon before beating the E4. So, I got through the whole beta in a total of nine hours (which was reduced to 5 thanks to the almighty space button) with 7 badges, 11 Pokemon caught and a Level 67 Feraligatr. XD

Anyway, I loved the new maps. Even though I noticed a little mistake (which was because of the tileset) in a certain map, I did not bother, because this hack is really making me re-live the awesome time I had playing my Crystal before it was stolen 5 years ago. Thank you very much Zel. ^^

zel 2.0 January 22nd, 2007 8:03 AM

illsoul: Carlos' battles are usually a one-chance only (purposely done like that)

ShinyLugia: I also want to avoid touching the surfing sprite, that if it doesn't matters that sprite having a few oddities. And, about forbidding tha player fish while surfing, that's internal stuff, and cannot be edited with my skills.

hammerhead: I don't why you get bad eggs... I have bred for a while, getting only an army of baby pokemons (which I dump... :badsmile:) If you keep on getting problems, send me a PM.

Boss Giovanni: I think we can now stop posting glitches now. I'm trying to close the fixed beta, and I'm also getting glitches posts by PM, and the one you mention has been mentioned before. Let's wait till I close the 3.5 version to post again, if anything else is still missing.
Thanks!

Shining Latias: Wow! You have broke the "usual way to play pokemon" :D I guess SGX is not prepared to battle against your kind of players... :laugh:

Pokequester January 22nd, 2007 8:15 AM

I applied the Patch and when I tried to play it, The screen went all white and stuff.

Alex January 22nd, 2007 2:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokequester (Post 2364098)
I applied the Patch and when I tried to play it, The screen went all white and stuff.

Ya!! that happens to me too! Most of the time it's when I hack the ROM, like map edit it. I don't know if it's linked with that, I imagine it is, I mean ROMs aren't really MADE for hacking, right? So I really wanna know what causes that, I want to know if I'm right.

EDIT: Zel, I've got a question. You know in the original GSC versions, when you get to Kanto it's a whole new set of different looking tiles then the ones in Johto. Will you change up the tile looks in Kanto in SG/SGX, too? That would be pretty cool, in my opinion. I always like to see the talent of tile editors. I hope you do it!

Always and Never January 22nd, 2007 7:25 PM

Since you can't trade are you gonna make it so Scyther (!) evolves into Scizor at a certain level? or like Slowbro>> Slowking?

furrypaws16 January 22nd, 2007 7:44 PM

When you applied the patch, did you apply it to a clean Fire Red rom?

If so, then I'm not quite sure what's happening. Try redownloading your FR rom, and the patch, and try again.

ASHYLEGS January 22nd, 2007 7:48 PM

I'll tell you what, the Mahogany Gym Maze is hard. LOL

monroylobo January 22nd, 2007 8:10 PM

White screens
 
For white screens, go to options, emulator, save type, and check 128k. The same problem is present with the Pokemon Fire Red rom.

MickyD January 22nd, 2007 9:46 PM

I tried the teleport thing by the Ice Cave, and you're right. It led me to KANTO!!! Its all screwed up though, the tilesets and stuff. But some trainer battles are there, like I found a Picknicker with two level 27 Ponyta. Definitely a glitch, maybe because thats where the ROM ends.

Can't wait for Beta 4, I'm itchin to fsce the Ice Caves!


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