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bigbob88 January 29th, 2007 8:32 AM

Hey zel, i dont know if im the only one who experienced this while playing beta 3.5 but the rockets in the slowpoke well dont fight you, the first rocket just says weird stuff and the woman rocket freezes your game and the third doesnt say anything, but you can still fight the last rocket tho. Just thought id mention it.

Anyway its been a great game so far!! Love it! Keep it up!

Also there are some heabutt trees outside the big catching contest when your going towards sudowoodo that are have the sprite of the hero instead of actual headbutt trees, was just wandering if you meant that for the ones that arnt working properly??

Twinx January 29th, 2007 9:18 AM

Zel, I was wondering... Pokemon Crystal has a lot of new things to Gold/Silver.... THE MOVE TUTOR for instance and the DAYCARE EGG that you automaticly get ... I know this is a Gold remake... but it doesn't have to be 100% the same.. in my opinion you should put events from the other games... hehe i'm not telling you what to do but it's just my opinion.

I know this is a bit early but.... I think there should be missions in Kanto... not just Gyms... Maybe a new evil team? or maybe a Team Rocket comeback ? (as much as we'd all hate that.. :D ) I'm just saying that in Gold.. going back to Kanto wasn't as fun as one would think... I finished it in an hour or so... it should have more challenge to it...

Btw while exploring DARK CAVE in B3.. I noticed that there was a rock somewhere in the far right that when you ROCK SMASH it... IT STAYS THERE... you might wanna check that out...

OTHER THAN THAT... BEST OF LUCK..... ;)

furrypaws16 January 29th, 2007 1:16 PM

Well, obviously the move tutor will be there, even if they are the Fire Red moves. About those other Crystal things, it's up to Zel.

rune the 1st January 29th, 2007 1:55 PM

So i just started in these forums when was the 1st version released?
and about how much time does it take him to make a new version?

Alex January 29th, 2007 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rune the 1st (Post 2370471)
So i just started in these forums when was the 1st version released?
and about how much time does it take him to make a new version?

I, myself, only joined when the second one was released. It takes time for zel to release another beta because, I mean you're not going to release one every time you finish a new city. My guess is we'll be able to get to the Indigo Plateau in B4. Don't pressure zel.

rune the 1st January 29th, 2007 3:03 PM

im not pressuring it's just i want to know like when these things started
doh i forgot to look at the 1st post.. silly me :p

PokemonLegends January 29th, 2007 4:41 PM

Ok, thanks for the info! ^^
And this is the best game ever!

daniel_h January 29th, 2007 4:55 PM

hey zel, glad you sorted out 3.5

now you can get back to making progress for the next beta and maybe start posting those teaser screenshots again :D

im somehow managing to hold myself back until the final release.....its hard

El Diabeetus January 29th, 2007 5:33 PM

well okay zel i know you dont really want to change the pokemons sprites but people would think its cool i could revamp gsc pokemon for you if you want ex:http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/Frankthesaiyan/Zapdos.png

Well I hope you are still working on this and don't give up

zel 2.0 January 29th, 2007 5:43 PM

Now I can look at your posts properly and comment on them... Let's see...

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Originally Posted by rune the 1st (Post 2368798)
:( I can't even beat silver the 1st time he uses razor leaf too much :(

Jojo... SGX is a bit hard for you... Consider training for a while (I had the same problem ;))

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Originally Posted by Jeremy (Post 2368805)
First Brown, then ChaosBlack, now ShineyGold. Wow sweetie, your hack got uber popular, you should be proud. ^^; I know your hard work is getting exploited for money, but more people are playing your hack, and that what counts, right sweetie?

Well... Jeremy, there's no excuse for what they do. It doesn't matter if they make more people play the game. After all, anyone from anywhere could play it if they just find the patch, and without wasting a buck!
The evil part of it is that they are lying to people... The gamers find themselves trapped without knowing what to do. Anyone here knows that the game is just a Beta... Meh... I'll just keep saying "No to Pirates"...

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Originally Posted by darkkchildd (Post 2368945)
Has anyone else noticed that the music in the LIGHTHOUSE is terribly annoying??? Or is it just me???

Well... I found it exciting for a tower climb... Just an opinion... :P

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Originally Posted by vx4theflash (Post 2369058)
has zel got any new graphics for G/S exclusive key items?

Not yet... I have to improve my "spriting skills", or get the help from one of those "expert spriters" O.O (I know they are out there, I just need to take the phone and make the call! :laugh:)

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Originally Posted by rune the 1st (Post 2369236)
can you make the rival music from the next version lance's music from stadium 2?

No, I can't because I don't know how to add music. And, I really don't want to know how to, yet, because I'm pretty sure it'll be a "space in the rom eater"... (Space for my scripts will never be touched! >:o)

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Originally Posted by Liquinn (Post 2369471)
What plans you got for the Pokemon Leauge?

You'll see them, eventually (Well... I guess not, because you enjoy GBC hacks, lol) But, I'd only suggest to buy some extra Full Restores for the League... jeje...

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Originally Posted by marz (Post 2369788)
Zel, I've got a question: When you beat Carlos in front of Ice Cave, is that the last time you fight him? 'Cause he had caught a friggin' Chansey and Snorlax! I actually thought I was going to lose to him the first time I went against him there. Also, I think you shouldn't make him stand in front of Ice Cave, immobile, until you walk up there. I think, instead, when the player walks 2 tiles away from the entrance, Carlos should walk out of Ice Cave and then challenge you.
That's all from me... I'm tired so bye....zzzzzzz

As you know, my party is never fixed apart from a few pokes. So, I think Snorlax will be out for the next time (Yes, there will be next time, in fact, many next times...). But that doesn't mean I'm going to put a weak poke instead :badsmile:
The idea of him in front of Ice Path's entrance is because he was intentionally waiting for you (I mean, you went and saved the day, while I just concentrated on beating the Gym before you, and since I like to see the player suffer, I knew he would show up there. And... Why would I wait inside that cold place, anyway...? JOJO!!!)

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Originally Posted by archer (Post 2370046)
@cool700 - you cant go any further than you are because the version the you bought is not finished. get the free version off the first page of this thread.
give miltank ten berries and you will get a free mooomoo milk.

Allow me to extend that... Once Moomoo is healthy again, you'll be able to get a Moomoo Milk from time to time (activating a "timed event" in the process). Of course, there'll be times when the sell won't be available (because you activated other "timed event" previously). So, wander around a few minutes, and you can get all the Milk you want repeating the process...

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Originally Posted by bigbob88 (Post 2370254)
Hey zel, i dont know if im the only one who experienced this while playing beta 3.5 but the rockets in the slowpoke well dont fight you, the first rocket just says weird stuff and the woman rocket freezes your game and the third doesnt say anything, but you can still fight the last rocket tho. Just thought id mention it.

Anyway its been a great game so far!! Love it! Keep it up!

Also there are some heabutt trees outside the big catching contest when your going towards sudowoodo that are have the sprite of the hero instead of actual headbutt trees, was just wandering if you meant that for the ones that arnt working properly??

I'll check the Rocket Event. Too bad I lost the original script so I had to see the script using EMap, but it seems it didn't work ok. So I'll have a look at it again, and it'll be fixed for B4.
About the Headbutt Trees, they should work, unless a tree wasn't assigned the Headbutt script offset. If you see one, just let me know. But, about one or a few having the hero's sprite, well sorry, there are a lot of trees, so maybe some I forgot to hid them. Again, for B4 I think all of them just say "Hidden"

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Originally Posted by darkkchildd (Post 2370291)
Zel, I was wondering... Pokemon Crystal has a lot of new things to Gold/Silver.... THE MOVE TUTOR for instance and the DAYCARE EGG that you automaticly get ... I know this is a Gold remake... but it doesn't have to be 100% the same.. in my opinion you should put events from the other games... hehe i'm not telling you what to do but it's just my opinion.

I know this is a bit early but.... I think there should be missions in Kanto... not just Gyms... Maybe a new evil team? or maybe a Team Rocket comeback ? (as much as we'd all hate that.. :D ) I'm just saying that in Gold.. going back to Kanto wasn't as fun as one would think... I finished it in an hour or so... it should have more challenge to it...

Btw while exploring DARK CAVE in B3.. I noticed that there was a rock somewhere in the far right that when you ROCK SMASH it... IT STAYS THERE... you might wanna check that out...

OTHER THAN THAT... BEST OF LUCK..... ;)

First, I've corrected the Rock Smashing thing in Dark Cave.

And about the other, you know me, I'll be adding events in Kanto, since there are gonna be more legendaries and rivals, there'll be more events. And about TR, well... They won't come back, but Jess & Jamie will do whatever it takes to make the "comeback" (only to fail each time :P)

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Originally Posted by rune the 1st (Post 2370471)
and about how much time does it take him to make a new version?

If Uni doesn't get in the way, usually a month, or a month and a half... Of course, nothing sure...

Whew... That was all... Now, I think I finished fixing the mapping now that I have replaced a few tiles and palettes... The game will really look different, I can assure you. But, for now I want to be concentrated again in the scripting. I'm working on the puzzle in Blackthorn, throwing the boulders to make roads through the lava. Not an easy task...

That's all guys, off to see what's happening in the other games!

rune the 1st January 29th, 2007 6:42 PM

how bout making Neo TR come they need some screen time :)

furrypaws16 January 29th, 2007 7:11 PM

I hate team rocket, and I think everyone else here does also.

NO MORE RATICATES/GOLBATS

Bah...I'm grumpy. >:(

Wow, my 101st post! I didn't even realize...>_>;

I don't think Zel wants to change many sprites right now...besides, isn't that for your hack? :)

rune the 1st January 29th, 2007 7:20 PM

ehh have never made one and don't plan to but who cares i too am tired of raticates but he put stuff like poocheyanas (which should be something else)

furrypaws16 January 30th, 2007 4:00 AM

For the sprite thing, I was referring to Furanki. Sorry, I should have been a little more clear.

Hey Zel, you know how you said you could catch all 386 pokemon in this game? What about Deoxys and Mew? What I mean is, what about the obiedience bit. I know you could probably just recreate Deoxy's event, but Mew is not in this game. Would you have to copy the Deoxys event, and change the hexidecimal of Deoxys to Mew?

I know the obiedience bit doesn't mess with the pokedex, but still...

It doesn't really matter though, just as long as you will make him catchable.

Arashi January 30th, 2007 8:59 AM

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Originally Posted by furrypaws16 (Post 2370853)
For the sprite thing, I was referring to Furanki. Sorry, I should have been a little more clear.

Hey Zel, you know how you said you could catch all 386 pokemon in this game? What about Deoxys and Mew? What I mean is, what about the obiedience bit. I know you could probably just recreate Deoxy's event, but Mew is not in this game. Would you have to copy the Deoxys event, and change the hexidecimal of Deoxys to Mew?

I know the obiedience bit doesn't mess with the pokedex, but still...

It doesn't really matter though, just as long as you will make him catchable.

Actually, Mew can be caught in Fire Red. There is a certain event in a certain island so I don't think Zel's gonna have any problems with it. Maybe the question should be about Celebi and Jirachi who cannot be caught in any advanced game (in the game itself, as event Pokemon) so far.

Silent Storm January 30th, 2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kallen-san (Post 2370971)
Actually, Mew can be caught in Fire Red. There is a certain event in a certain island so I don't think Zel's gonna have any problems with it. Maybe the question should be about Celebi and Jirachi who cannot be caught in any advanced game (in the game itself, as event Pokemon) so far.

*the game professer enters in a dynamic entrance*

No you can't catch mew in FireRed, cause:-

There is no mapb for it.
No events and scripts for it, is only in the pokedex data.

Arashi January 30th, 2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Latios93 (Post 2371095)
*the game professer enters in a dynamic entrance*

No you can't catch mew in FireRed, cause:-

There is no mapb for it.
No events and scripts for it, is only in the pokedex data.

Actually, I think you're right. ^^; Mew can be caught in Emerald, not Fire Red.

shadow ho-oh January 30th, 2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by zel (Post 2370613)
Now I can look at your posts properly and comment on them... Let's see...
Not yet... I have to improve my "spriting skills", or get the help from one of those "expert spriters" O.O (I know they are out there, I just need to take the phone and make the call! :laugh:)

That's all guys, off to see what's happening in the other games!

im a good spriter if u need anything
the link is in my sig

Infusions January 30th, 2007 12:35 PM

Playing ShinyGold makes me wish there was a Yellow Version re-make. :C

*EMOTEAR*

zel 2.0 January 30th, 2007 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by furrypaws16 (Post 2370853)
Hey Zel, you know how you said you could catch all 386 pokemon in this game? What about Deoxys and Mew? What I mean is, what about the obiedience bit. I know you could probably just recreate Deoxy's event, but Mew is not in this game. Would you have to copy the Deoxys event, and change the hexidecimal of Deoxys to Mew?

Well, we'll see when the time comes (actually I was thinking about something involving Mew and Jirachi, but, I'm not willing to say anything else). Of course, many sidequests will be done for the last versions (and many of them will be mid-game)

I'm updating my Goals, so go have a look at my first post. I plan to have three Gyms from Kanto available in B4 (namely, Vermillion, Saffron and Cerulean... yes, Misty's back!). So, basically it'll be up to fixing the problem in the power plant, but a few places will be blocked (such as Rock Tunnel, which means Lavender, the exits to the east and west of Saffron, which means Lavender & Celadon, and the exits to the west of Cerulean, which means Mt.Moon and so on). B5 should be pretty close to the end of the game, and probably a B6 will contain the important sidequests, after that, it'll be the adding of extra stuff, and fixing of all bugs to achieve the final version!

cartmanclone515 January 30th, 2007 1:29 PM

Hoorah to everything said above!!

Alex January 30th, 2007 2:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zel (Post 2371153)
Well, we'll see when the time comes (actually I was thinking about something involving Mew and Jirachi, but, I'm not willing to say anything else). Of course, many sidequests will be done for the last versions (and many of them will be mid-game)

I'm updating my Goals, so go have a look at my first post. I plan to have three Gyms from Kanto available in B4 (namely, Vermillion, Saffron and Cerulean... yes, Misty's back!). So, basically it'll be up to fixing the problem in the power plant, but a few places will be blocked (such as Rock Tunnel, which means Lavender, the exits to the east and west of Saffron, which means Lavender & Celadon, and the exits to the west of Cerulean, which means Mt.Moon and so on). B5 should be pretty close to the end of the game, and probably a B6 will contain the important sidequests, after that, it'll be the adding of extra stuff, and fixing of all bugs to achieve the final version!

Sounds fantastic! I like the plans you've got for B4. I was surprised to read 3 gyms of Kanto will be beatable, I'm happy! So what's going to happen with Prof. Oak, I mean he was only in GSC to give you the never-before-seen National Dex. But since you've got that, what purpose does he serve? And, I don't know if this has been asked before, but... I'll ask it anyway, you've killed Red's sprite for Carlos (am I right?), so is there going to be Red in Mt. Silver? I really like that place. It just screams legendairy, too. I think you should make at least one legendairy event in Mt. Silver. Now it's time to go see the updates of the first post! Bye!

EDIT: Are you going to make Feebas and/or Milotic extremely rare like (well only Feebas) it is in RSE?

furrypaws16 January 30th, 2007 3:42 PM

Why would he kill the red sprite if he was just going to recycle it for the battle at Mt. Silver? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the Red trainer in GS was just what you saw in battle mode in RBY except in color.

Also, Zel mentioned how Hoenn pokes would be rare...so imagine how annoying it wold be to find Feebas! Lol!

Robedom1 January 30th, 2007 3:42 PM

How come when you get to Ecruteak you are not allowed to go into Mahogany or the Lighthouse it is like you just walk into it but you can't go in. Am I supposed to do something first?

IronFist January 30th, 2007 3:57 PM

Hey, you should add Celebii and Jirachii to this somehow considering you can't get them on roms. You should add Celebii through the orginal way you were suppouse to in Crystal and that's through that one forest.

furrypaws16 January 30th, 2007 4:11 PM

*smacks forehead and redirects Ironfist to front page, FAQ's section*

Robedom, do you have a double patched rom? Or a beta two patch? If not, I can't help, sorry.

Random January 30th, 2007 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by furrypaws16 (Post 2371290)
Why would he kill the red sprite if he was just going to recycle it for the battle at Mt. Silver? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the Red trainer in GS was just what you saw in battle mode in RBY except in color.

Also, Zel mentioned how Hoenn pokes would be rare...so imagine how annoying it wold be to find Feebas! Lol!

Well if zel did killed the Red sprite for carlos, he could kill another sprite to put in Red, then have it ready in Mt. Silver by B5, so i dont its too much of a problem, except that zel has to put into the effort of putting back red in the hack and setting up red's team.

Robedom1 January 30th, 2007 4:26 PM

Yes i had a beta two but i got 3.5 and it fixed it thank you though Furrypaws

furrypaws16 January 30th, 2007 5:04 PM

Ok, you're welcome. If you double patched, however, expect to encounter a few glitches such as Missingno instead of other pokemon. It's best just to get a clean rom and patch that. Double patching works, but it makes your game glitchy. Beware.

Goku Goku January 30th, 2007 5:07 PM

Well Zel, the progress of SG is still going strong! :D Well, hope you'll get some screenshots though. Though it's not a major concern, will there also be events to catch the legendary birds or the regitrio? Or will thet magically appear very rarely in places?

Well, good luck with fixing any oddities, and do take your time. Soon you could even consider like a guidebook to this hack - so many new things, and different ways to evolve certan Pokemon (that require trade)... :classic: Not a major concern, but I'm just saying...

furrypaws16 January 30th, 2007 5:17 PM

If you mean like an online guide, then I'm totally for that. :) Just as long as it's not page by page. Cuz then that would be easy pirating.

I think the legendary birds and Mewtwo will be in the same place (save for Moltres...maybe he could be in a new cave in Cinnibar island! Just kidding...) It would probably be easier for Zel, and us. Is there a working dive in this game? If there is, maybe you could dive to find Mewtwo. Is it just me, or do I keep talking? *zips lips*

Goku Goku January 30th, 2007 5:37 PM

Moltres could just be located at Mt. Silver. It's only logical, right? :\ And what about the Regis?

furrypaws16 January 30th, 2007 5:46 PM

But wouldn't that be a long wait for a *in my opinion* pokemon that could easily be replaced with a Charizard? I mean, sure, Mt. Silver would work...

The Regis...how about

Regice=Ice caves
Regirock=Rock Tunnel
Registeel=??You think of something Goku Goku. This idea stuff is hard work...lol! For registeel, probably Mt.Silver (After all, Silver and Steel both are metals, but one could argue Moltres is as useless as Registeel)

OR...Zel could just make a bunch of little caves hidden in places for those legendaries.

IronFist January 30th, 2007 5:49 PM

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Originally Posted by furrypaws16 (Post 2371301)
*smacks forehead and redirects Ironfist to front page, FAQ's section*

Robedom, do you have a double patched rom? Or a beta two patch? If not, I can't help, sorry.

That still doesn't mention Jirachi.

furrypaws16 January 30th, 2007 5:54 PM

It does, however, mention that all 386 pokemon will be in here.

Q: Are all pokemon gonna be in?
A: Correct.
Since Hoenn poke live in Johto and Kanto (but very rare).


Sorry if I sound rude, or annoyed, or mad, but Zel has mentioned many times that all pokes will be in.

Alex January 30th, 2007 6:03 PM

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Originally Posted by furrypaws16 (Post 2371346)
If you mean like an online guide, then I'm totally for that. :) Just as long as it's not page by page. Cuz then that would be easy pirating.

I think the legendary birds and Mewtwo will be in the same place (save for Moltres...maybe he could be in a new cave in Cinnibar island! Just kidding...) It would probably be easier for Zel, and us. Is there a working dive in this game? If there is, maybe you could dive to find Mewtwo. Is it just me, or do I keep talking? *zips lips*

Moltres on Cinnabar doesn't sound like a bad idea. There could be some secret under ground thing and it's a whole new area to Cinnabar Island! And then Moltres is stowed away deep into the... underground Cinnabar.

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Originally Posted by furrypaws16 (Post 2371351)
But wouldn't that be a long wait for a *in my opinion* pokemon that could easily be replaced with a Charizard? I mean, sure, Mt. Silver would work...

The Regis...how about

Regice=Ice caves
Regirock=Rock Tunnel
Registeel=??You think of something Goku Goku. This idea stuff is hard work...lol! For registeel, probably Mt.Silver (After all, Silver and Steel both are metals, but one could argue Moltres is as useless as Registeel)

OR...Zel could just make a bunch of little caves hidden in places for those legendaries.

Think of something else for Regirock, since Rock Tunnel is closed, remember? And for Registeel, why not Mt. Silver. Silver, steel? How about it?

rune the 1st January 30th, 2007 6:09 PM

but cinibar should be destroyed....and also how are you supposed to get a milotic?

Alex January 30th, 2007 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rune the 1st (Post 2371367)
but cinibar should be destroyed....and also how are you supposed to get a milotic?

That true, whatever. Get a milotic by evolving Feebas...

Goku Goku January 30th, 2007 6:42 PM

Feebas and Milotic should be found in a hidden lake hidden in the map, though they still rarely appear.

Articuno, Moltres and Zapdos really don't have a place, because their old respective locations have been altered: With Moltres, Victory Road is too small, Mt. Ember is removed; with Zapdos the Power Plant is being used to power Saffron's Trains; and with Articuno Seafoam Islands have been closed off and turned into Blaine's new gym. Of course, there could be a secret access to the rest of the Seafoam Islands, but i don't think that'll work. Maybe...as the legendary dog trio roam Johto, the legendary bird trio could roam Kanto, and the Regis found in various caves hidden throughout the game. Of course, the all these legendaries could have their own little cave...

Random January 30th, 2007 6:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Goku Goku (Post 2371389)
Feebas and Milotic should be found in a hidden lake hidden in the map, though they still rarely appear.

Articuno, Moltres and Zapdos really don't have a place, because their old respective locations have been altered: With Moltres, Victory Road is too small, Mt. Ember is removed; with Zapdos the Power Plant is being used to power Saffron's Trains; and with Articuno Seafoam Islands have been closed off and turned into Blaine's new gym. Of course, there could be a secret access to the rest of the Seafoam Islands, but i don't think that'll work. Maybe...as the legendary dog trio roam Johto, the legendary bird trio could roam Kanto, and the Regis found in various caves hidden throughout the game. Of course, the all these legendaries could have their own little cave...

Whatever the case might be, zel said he would have sides quests included, so all legendaries would be included too, so far it doesn't matter if mew is not programmed in FR compared to Emerald, cause zel could easily create any type of event. But there would have to be time spent on thinking and putting to place on for these legendaries, like where to catch it, and what attack sets it needs, and what level? I think everybody is all of a sudden worrying about this too much and its not a major concern, because it will slow down his hack, if he has to(gameplay is important) and its far off from mind in zel... Is it necessarily to have more then one legendary in your team or is it? Tell me if I'm wrong, but prove it.

Goku Goku January 30th, 2007 6:55 PM

You have a very good point there. It shouldn't be a major concern, and if Zel doesn't get around to it, you could always trade, can't you?

Random January 30th, 2007 7:00 PM

Yes, of course you can, but only with FR, since zel hasnt programmed in the ruby and sapphire plates in, to connect to other versions, but you can always trade from Emerald to FR to SG, so no problems there.;)

furrypaws16 January 30th, 2007 7:10 PM

Goku Goku kinda reminds me of "Good Calvin" if any of you have read the comic strip of Calvin and Hobbes where Calvin dupes a good version of himself. If Goku Goku says something mean, he'll just poof! Maybe that's why he's dead...:D

I'm just kidding, stay positive Goku!

Yeah, the Legendaries don't matter, but I thought Zel wanted to make them all catchable without trading. Seriously, though, I don't care if I have to HACK them in. Zel will come up with a solution, and that's that. (All though I don't think he will want us to hack :))

Alex January 30th, 2007 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shurikenway (Post 2371396)
Whatever the case might be, zel said he would have sides quests included, so all legendaries would be included too, so far it doesn't matter if mew is not programmed in FR compared to Emerald, cause zel could easily create any type of event. But there would have to be time spent on thinking and putting to place on for these legendaries, like where to catch it, and what attack sets it needs, and what level? I think everybody is all of a sudden worrying about this too much and its not a major concern, because it will slow down his hack, if he has to(gameplay is important) and its far off from mind in zel... Is it necessarily to have more then one legendary in your team or is it? Tell me if I'm wrong, but prove it.

Shurikenway, you're right. Side-quests aren't the most of our concerns. And, about the legendairies on your team; I've said it before, and I'll say it again, having a legendairy pokemon on your team is extremely cliché and sucks, in my opinion. No one wants to hear about your level 77 Rayquaza or Lugia, in fact, I'd be much more interested about your level 77 Tyranitar. Speaking of Tyranitars, congrats on your 3 level 100 pokes in your team, Shurikenway. But still, legendairies are part of the pokedex, so they need SOME attention. But that attention will be in the PC. So, I must ask zel, how many pokes will be roaming the map freely? Will the dogs be? And the legendairy birds? Personally, I think the regis shouldn't be roaming. Since they're like big heavy things either made of Ice, Steel or Rock. I mean dogs run freely, birds fly freely, and big machine things.. they just stay hidden, immobile in their respective little caves that no one visits.

zel 2.0 January 30th, 2007 8:49 PM

Okay guys, I've been hearing all that discussion, so I guess I'll be clarifing a few things about the legendaries... So far I can confirm these already are in my mind with a certain event, or just happening to find them somewhere. Obviously, I don't like to spoil things much, so I'll avoid giving too much info...

Gen1 - Mewtwo (through event), Mew (event related with Jirachi)
Gen2 - Raikou/Entei/Suicune (running wild, perhaps? If not, then, remove them from the list till I think something), Lugia/Ho-oh (as in the original Gold), Celebii (with GS Ball)
Gen3 - theRegis (finding them in caves scattered around Kanto), Kyogre/Groudon (through events), Jirachi (event related with Mew)

All in all, I'm missing [email protected] and Rayquazza (and maybe the dogs or whatever, if there's no way to make them all run wild). So, if you are up to throw ideas, then go ahead, but don't expect me to comment on them, because I can't be spoiling if I'd use a posted idea... ;)

And... about Feebas, I think it's good to put it somewhere well hidden, and as always... freaking rare... *Mwahahahaha.... Bring your favourite evil laughter here...* :badsmile: :laugh:

Random January 30th, 2007 9:08 PM

That really awesome, zel that you have it mostly planned out...but

why not just have the player choose which [email protected] they want to go into the wild along with the Legendary dogs or have them both after the beating the E4(in Johto only), and have Rayquaza be caught in Dragon's Den, but the player has to unlock something for rayquaza to appear later in the hack... but cant be there the first time you go into the Den in Blackthorn. Its makes sense to me since its a dragon-flying pokemon.

Oh no, the Feebas are even rarer!

Cornicapus January 30th, 2007 11:44 PM

I got an idea about the ledgendaries

ALL of the ledgendaries formed a poker club deep inside cinnibar mansion which sank into the ocean when a massive fart pushed it off the island before the volcano erupted.

But then you find a ladder in cinawood you go through a HUGE tunnel leading to cinnibar mansion (if you didnt notice that tunnel goes accros the world) and when you walk in the door you see them all playing poker then you Mewtwo shouts ZOMG ROYAL FLUSH XD but then relises that you are there and he tells all the ledgendaires to attack you! but right before you get attacked water starts filling in the mansion and all the ledgendaries relise they forgot to learn fly so they ask for you help. so you must lead them out and fight off all the evil zubats and magikarps trying to stop you. after you beat their ringleader the "Zukarp" (a crossbreed of the most annoying pokemon ever) you relise again that uyou are sinking and go out through the huge tunnel you found and you amazingly escape.

After all that they all say you can visit them in their homes.

Regice: Break a slab of ice (you know the craked ones) in the ice cave
Ragirock: The rock off the shore of cherrygrove
Ragisteel: Protecting raquaza
Articuno: hole in Blaines gym
moltres: cinnibar volcano
Zapdos: Hidden area in saffron pokecenter
Mewtwo: with deoxys
Deoxys: birth island... duh
[email protected]: Navel Rock
Groundon: somewhere in diglett cave
Kyogre: In cinnibar mansion (he can survive water... duh)
Raikou,Suicune: In Prof Elms and Prof Oak's Team (only obtainable if you beat them)
Entei: Prize for beating Prof.Elm and Prof.Oak in double battle XD
Rayquaza: Dragons den
Jirachi,Mew and Celebi: whatever you suggested
All the ones i didnt mention: shoved in a box

Obviosly you dont need to go with my story (i was just being silly) and all the Locations that arent crazy i actually meant

Liquinn January 31st, 2007 12:25 AM

Just a lil something I made ^_^

http://www.flash-mx.net/SGSupporter.png
http://www.flash-mx.net/SGSupporterRed.png

Credit Liquinn Yoshi for using them, thanks, hope you like ^_^

Goku Goku January 31st, 2007 1:10 AM

Well, it all sounds good - eberything's like though out well! :D Heh, Feebas...looks like I'll trade for it! :P

So much legendaries...it could really make a pile. This is a bad idea, but anyways why not have this special island place, and there's this shrine. Maybe you have to find a specific item that may appear randomly in daily events in the game, or just found somewhere hidden, or whatever, but you bring that item to that shrine, and the specific legendary's cave or location will unlock, or the legendary will appear in front of you itself. These could just be for the remainding legendaries who don't quite have a location yet. Well, that's my 2 cent. :\ Good luck with the hack and anything else you're doing at the moment, and take all the time you need! ;)

Oh! And neat banners you got Liquinn. Why not make gold and silver ones as well? :classic:

tphi January 31st, 2007 3:02 AM

Just AWESOME ! This hack will be the funniest game EVER, nintendo can't do a game with all this pokemon ! congratulations zel

DiamondDust January 31st, 2007 8:52 AM

I see what you're coming up with...

Lemme see, i've got one for Latios/Latias.

There's a tower Hidden somewhere, and on each floor there are the normal Dark Pokemon and Fire Pokemon. On the 7th floor there's 2 doors on each side and there's a few boulders to move around. Once you arranged them it will lead only to one of the doors and inside there will be Latios/Latias. Once you captured Latios/Latias there will be a ladder one step forward of where Latias/Latios was. Climb it and another 8 more floors filled with bicycle mazes and that then comes on the 15th floor Rayquaza.

How's that? It was a hard time to come up with that. Have fun!

zel 2.0 January 31st, 2007 10:19 AM

SG's new look!!!
 
Well guys... I'm celebrating my 200th Post in the thread!!!

And... what better way to celebrate it than to show everybody the new look of Shiny Gold?

So... Here they are... Some screenshots of how the game will look from now on!

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9606/neo1ot8.png http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/1874/neo2tw0.png http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3573/neo3wo7.png
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4670/neo4xu3.png http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/5179/neo5xz7.png http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2328/neo6xd7.png

As I promised, it would be an interesting mix between generations (Gold/FR/DP)
Also, I'm going for the "opaque themed" hack, since I don't like the "shiny theme", besides that's gonna be out of discussion.

Sigh... I hate doing tile changing... It's sooooo boring... :P

Well, at least this may give the hack a bit of "uniqueness"... But still... It's soooo boring... :P

I bought a cake, so come here and get a piece...! JOJO! XP

Christos January 31st, 2007 10:31 AM

You did great with all the palette and tile changing. The palettes are nice but the other houses don't match with the Center and Mart. You should change the houses too, or change the Center and Mart again. And you should really change the wild grass tiles.

Keep up the great work and... thanks for the cake. :P

BlackRainbow* January 31st, 2007 10:44 AM

looks really good i love it

Random January 31st, 2007 10:54 AM

Good job with the use in D/P tiles, I think the extra tile putting is so worth the effort zel, the background really stands out better then the old FR tiles, Looks so awesome... i cant wait for the next update of screenshots:classic:

tphi January 31st, 2007 11:01 AM

Feebas between new bark town and the victory road ^^

Uh ? have i see creen of D/P ?

Oh non ? WAHOO zel awesome work !

mamudi January 31st, 2007 11:02 AM

Wow that looks really cool and bye the way i just started the game and i wanted a tyranitar so i used a code but cant get any random battles

Pokemon_X January 31st, 2007 11:27 AM

I know this is going to sound blasfemic, but I have to say, when you're done with SG i'll have to bow down and praise you God.
with that said i'll return to playing SG, and pray to my god Zel

slayeryu12 January 31st, 2007 11:35 AM

wow....just wow awesome new look zel!!

davidm January 31st, 2007 11:36 AM

where is flash again i forgot completely

CrystalFlow January 31st, 2007 12:09 PM

good screens zel, looks awesome

Bebetrunks January 31st, 2007 12:46 PM

Flash is or was, in bellsprout tower after beatign your rival. Anyways I love those tiles! and I must say dont go hard on yourself about your english you speak perfect english! :) Good luck and im hoping you complete it soon. :D

Alistair January 31st, 2007 12:50 PM

Wow. Those screenshots look great! Well, apart from the Mart, Gym, and the Pokémon Center. If you want, I can make you a Center, a Gym, and a Mart to better suit the style you are going for.

Silent Storm January 31st, 2007 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2371840)
Well guys... I'm celebrating my 200th Post in the thread!!!

And... what better way to celebrate it than to show everybody the new look of Shiny Gold?

So... Here they are... Some screenshots of how the game will look from now on!

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9606/neo1ot8.png http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/1874/neo2tw0.png http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3573/neo3wo7.png
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4670/neo4xu3.png http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/5179/neo5xz7.png http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2328/neo6xd7.png

As I promised, it would be an interesting mix between generations (Gold/FR/DP)
Also, I'm going for the "opaque themed" hack, since I don't like the "shiny theme", besides that's gonna be out of discussion.

Sigh... I hate doing tile changing... It's sooooo boring... :P

Well, at least this may give the hack a bit of "uniqueness"... But still... It's soooo boring... :P

I bought a cake, so come here and get a piece...! JOJO! XP

Holy freaking H*ll those screens are flawless.

Zel, your a legend.

fedex_sc_14 January 31st, 2007 1:34 PM

Wow!
The tiles change is awesome I love the aspect of the game it look so amazing,...
Well,Zel you're done an excellent work so I wishyou luck and Bye-Bye!

davidm January 31st, 2007 1:38 PM

arghhhhhhhhhh i need 2 find the 7th badge which town is it in ??? pleasee help me someone ive played this hack 3 times cause i thought i done somthing wrong

cartmanclone515 January 31st, 2007 1:42 PM

Oh my freaking God.... Those screens are incredible! I can't wait for B4!

Luиαrglοω January 31st, 2007 2:04 PM

Meh, the new tiles are pretty good, But I think you should at least shade in the trees. And the D/P Buildings don't really fit, since they were taken from crappy quality screenshots. But nonetheless, Great hack and I'm still looking forward to playing it when it's finished :D

davidm January 31st, 2007 2:07 PM

i need 2 find the 7th badge which town is it in ??? pleasee help me someone ive played this hack 3 times cause i thought i done somthing wrong

rune the 1st January 31st, 2007 2:15 PM

...I'm saying how do you get to evolve feebas if you get him? if you know you can only evolve him in R/S/E and D/P but not everything else so how will you do it here? level up? or have him learn a move to evolve? or some other new way? maybe level him up where you caught him (well that might be harder than the others)?

Chibaymega12 January 31st, 2007 2:34 PM

Hey Zel Ive got some ideas for legendaries(how ever you spell it)
I think articuno and zapdos should be where they are in fr/lg and moltres should be some where on cinnabar island (maybe you could add a dungeon or something). Anyways i tink once you get all three you could make it where you could go back to whirl islands with the silver wing and you could catch Lugia (since it IS shiny GOLD). Ho-Oh can be the same. Regice should be in the Ice Tunnel after you beat the elite four(maybe an extra floor and a ice slide puzzle. For Registeel, maybe silver could give you a level 40 one right before the E4. For Regerock, if you plannin on changing rock tunnel, you could throw him in there with a puzzle or somethin. I think that Rayquaza should maybe be a quest in a series of quests before you face Red or sumtin(in side the dragon dungeon). If you like my ideas, you dont have to add them in the immediate betas, maybe one of the later ones.

rune the 1st January 31st, 2007 2:50 PM

OK look this is how i think you should some legendaries I just trew out ideas from other things but I think it's ok...
1st you overhear two guys talking about a cave that grants wishes
then they see you and say you heard what they said then to "exterminate" you they double battle you. When they lose they dissapear. then you talk to people regarding a cave that grants wishes. the townsfolk say that they don't know but that there's a old sage that knows many things in the world. (somewhere....) and you go looks for him in (somewhere). He tells you that many have tried to pass trough this cave but few have suceeded (or something like that). then he tells you that it is near (somewhere). You go there looking for the cave and you find the two goons they tell you (blabity blah blah). and that whoever gets to the end of the cave 1st get's the wish. In the end you get there 1st but then you meet jirachi. He says that you will get a wish if you can beat/capture him. If you capture him he will get out of his pokeball and grant you your wish but the two trainerssay that you work for them and it's their wish and they wish to see mew. Jirachi believing them does it. Then they get outside and mew appears and runs away the two trainers are astonished and try to capture it but it runs away before they even throw the ball. Then they run away. you go tell this to proffesor oak he is astonished and tells you that it contains the DNA of all pokemon. he tells you to go look for it (somewhere) once you find you see the two trainers had found it before you. they capture mew in a container. then they go to a lab (in underground cinibar if you could) and once you find them you see the ultumate fighting pokemon has been made Mewtwo! mewtwo knocks the two scientist (trainers) out and comes to battle you tells you he is the strongest yadayada and then battles you. You defeat/capture him and then your character runs and finds mew in a weakened state but still ready to battle mew signals the trainer that he wants to join him but only if he can defeat him then defeat mew(make it so you can't catch him please) and he instantly joins your team :) well i hpe it was ok....
P.S if you use this you can make changes....

furrypaws16 January 31st, 2007 2:51 PM

Since when does your rival give you pokemon? >_>

Well...

Deoxys could be part of the Rayquaza event. After all, they fought in one of the movies. Or, you could just leave Deoxys on Birth Island. That's all I got...

Great new tiles!! They do seem a little gloomy though...that doesn't matter!

EDIT: Rune the First, I believe Zel already knows what he is going to do for Mew, Mewtwo, and Jirachi.

rune the 1st January 31st, 2007 2:54 PM

I know but i was just bored and who knows he might use it....
also the new tiles are awesome!!! i think i might use my other save files to trade with SG scince i heard SG can trade with FR i can trade from emerald to FR to SG

pencilbuddy January 31st, 2007 3:22 PM

Thanks For Beta 3.5 Cureently Playing Shiny Gold X
My Totodile Strater Choice Is At Level 12 Rival Was Very Hard For Me But I Beat Him Cannot Wait For Beta 4

Chibaymega12 January 31st, 2007 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furrypaws16 (Post 2371999)
Since when does your rival give you pokemon? >_>

Well it could be a new thing, just an idea. And his name IS silver. :)

Xiros January 31st, 2007 3:54 PM

zel the new tiles/palletes look excelent in the hack!
this grafical change is excelent!
well good luck my friend!

Goku Goku January 31st, 2007 4:15 PM

Now you're changing the tiles with the new DP-esque tiles and nice shades of green? Well Zel, you've done it again, and now it looks like a completely different hack, though it's still the same! :P However, I think the green could be brighter. ;) I think the Pokemon centre looks nice, and the mart looks weird, but personally I don't like the ceiling of the gym - oh well, I'm just me. :) Anyways, good job with the tile/palette change, and well don't stop! :D

rune the 1st January 31st, 2007 4:29 PM

well i personally like them unlike goku

Luиαrglοω January 31st, 2007 4:45 PM

Hey, we can all have our opinions :/
I personally think the dark color on the trees kind of suits the town's atmosphere. It makes them look more evergreen, like the GBC ones did. As I said before, they could use some shading. I'd do it for you but I don't know the proper way to... not mess it up...xD

Red1530 January 31st, 2007 5:22 PM

I just saw the screen shots with the new tile set and all I have to say is that the tile set are amazing.

furrypaws16 January 31st, 2007 5:32 PM

Rune, that was pretty nasty. Remember, Goku is with the Man upstairs now, so you just might get smitten. ;)

All though I partially agree, those grasses and trees are a bit gray looking...(Maybe I'm colorblind? :P :D)

Really though, considering the personality of Silver, do you think he would just give you a legendary? Maybe a prize from the E4 after beating them? Meh...

*Uses revive on Goku Goku*

dlbrooks33 January 31st, 2007 5:51 PM

I have a suggestion. In the beginning, after you get your first pokemon and the professer tells you to talk to your mom, after your mom asks what she can do, she should say something like "Oh, don't forget your RUNNING SHOES!" Because we NEED the runningshoes. I thought I was going to get them, but I was wrong. Please add this, it would be a great addition.

rune the 1st January 31st, 2007 5:51 PM

just because of one little comment everyone's against me *watery eyes*
I was just saying that i really like them...it's just 2 words that ruined it....and It's not like im saying that goku hates them *checks post* Oh wait i am sorry....

furrypaws16 January 31st, 2007 5:57 PM

That's ok...just don't do it again.


dlbrooks, You do get the running shoes. After you go to Mr. Pokemon's house, go back, and talk to Prof. Elm. Then, go talk to your mom. She will then give you the running shoes.

Alex January 31st, 2007 6:13 PM

hey zel, alright. Eveyone's commenting great things on your tiles, well it's time for me to give constructive critisism. By this I mean don't translate everything I say negatively about the tiles in the three words "these tiles suck" because they don't and that is surely NOT what I mean.

Well first of all, the PC is great! Flawless, the mart on the other hand, not THAT great, well only the roof, as Goku Goku mentioned. No one's commented on the grass (or at least I don't think), but it looks great! lol I really like it :P. I like the new signpost you made (you know the one that used to be wooden and only found in certain areas. Most commonly used to TRAINER TIPS). The trees.... look... odd, kinda odd to me. The middle and top of the tree looks fine, but the bottom kinda... I don't know how to describe it. Maybe consider re-working it... and finally, the gym. The gym looks extremely 2-D. I'm sorry, but it really does. It's got no shadowing. The roof's cool, and I have a feeling you worked mostly on that with the gym without paying attention to the shadowing on the structure itself... :\

That's all the critisism from me, and don't flame me, cuz I am NOT saying they suck! They just need some more work, in the areas I pointed out.

Quote:

Hey, we can all have our opinions :/
(Quote by F.L.Y.)

rune the 1st January 31st, 2007 6:30 PM

Well yeah i agree with some things marz said now that i read it and looked at the picture....ok and goku....also i didn't see any PCs....and the gym does need a little shadow but it's design is the best! but then im figuring that most buildings dont have a shadow...

Scales January 31st, 2007 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furrypaws16 (Post 2372106)
That's ok...just don't do it again.


dlbrooks, You do get the running shoes. After you go to Mr. Pokemon's house, go back, and talk to Prof. Elm. Then, go talk to your mom. She will then give you the running shoes.

He means he wants to get the running shoes easyer. Since he forgot to go get them

Alistair January 31st, 2007 7:38 PM

Well, I redid the roof with the gym and I remade (From scratch) the PC and the Mart. I don't care if you use it or not.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1064/centerandmartfv7.png

A little offtopic: If Zel chooses not to use the mart or the PC, anyone can use them/it. (Just give me credit)

Alex January 31st, 2007 8:01 PM

Nice ones Don, I like them, but I wish you'd kept the gym's roof, it was quite original, and not dull. Love the mart, though. The PC I don't think zel will HAVE to use since it's fine. Nice work, though!

homelesscarl January 31st, 2007 8:09 PM

Stuff looks good. You know how to hack, that's for sure.

Goku Goku January 31st, 2007 8:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Patch (Post 2372148)
Well, I redid the roof with the gym and I remade (From scratch) the PC and the Mart. I don't care if you use it or not.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1064/centerandmartfv7.png

A little offtopic: If Zel chooses not to use the mart or the PC, anyone can use them/it. (Just give me credit)

Great job Don, it does clean up Zel's original tiles. I guess as marz said the roof could use something, though I did say myself that what was one the roff last time looked odd. Well, anyways it's like this hack's graphics will keep changing, for the better. ;)

Off-topic: Anyone can use them? Thanks Don! I'll credit you! :D

Scales January 31st, 2007 8:49 PM

Those roofs are very good. I would definetly BUY the game when it comes out if Zel uses them

Random January 31st, 2007 9:31 PM

Even though i think those are better tiles(i got to admit), but were dealing with zel here, im sure doesn't want to fix the tiles, since he is a scripter, and prefers that more then anything.

unless he is a change of heart and decides to use your tiles Don Patch, they look pretty nice, the roofs on the PC, mart, and gym look more cleaner and shader then the ones zel uses in his, i don't mean for criticism but everyone needs to be criticize, even me. Everything else good with me, i would like to see the improvement, though there might not be any. Well like i say, Your the Captain, You Decide Zel;)

zel 2.0 January 31st, 2007 9:39 PM

Well, guys... I want to start scripting again, because I could die of boredom if I started tile changing again... :P

But... Well, I used a few screens of different qualities, most from serebiinet, and a few from coughhorriblevideoscough from youtube... So, basically, I did the Gym from scratch... But seeing this screenshots I tried to stick as close as I could... However, don't forget that we have less colors than in D/P.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8025/sources1nk8.png http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/1874/neo2tw0.png
Comparission of grass tile... I couldn't make it look good, so I had to make it from scratch, trying to make it look as the image in the screenshot (which is not of bad quality)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2630/sources2px8.png http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9606/neo1ot8.png
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5755/sources4bh0.png
Comparission of PCs and Marts... As you can see the PC is larger, but I had to reduce its size, however, the colours try to match those of the screenshot (but of course, DP has more tones of red/orange...). Maybe it could be fixed a bit with a black outline above the small roof for the door. And, it's obvious the difference between the walls colours, too bad I had to stick with greys because other tiles that share the palette.
Also, you can see the roof of the mart in that other screenshot? Well, I used that but, once again, DP has more colours... But, is it that bad? (Maybe I'm missing a tone of blue...for the roof, close to the walls of the Mart)
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5201/sources3xh7.png http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/5179/neo5xz7.png
Finally, the Gym... Seeing the screenshot from that vid on youtube, I could never use that, so work from scratch again... But... seeing the result, it's quite similar, I think. Obviously, Gyms are smaller in my hack compared to D/P (and even compared to FR :P) I think, if I'd want, fix a bit adding a bit more shadow to the Gym (but my Blockset is quite limited right now...)

Meh... I'm sticking with what I've done... Doing the mentioned fixes if I'm in the mood. Besides, I wasn't working for nothing on them :P

And, once again, people, I killed the "tile changer" version of me... So now, the old cranky scripter has been revived... XP

[EDIT]: Oh, I have forgotten a thing about the legendary birds trio. I already thought events for the three of them, however, there are some confirmations needed. That's all you'll get from me...

flipboi January 31st, 2007 10:07 PM

i dont know what people are complaing about!

from seeing those screens compared to D/P

i say WAY TO GO ZEL!!!

they do look alike, and you did it with limited colors!

especially the gym, the gym looks cool!

but, to me, the new SG looks gloomy :(

maybe a lil more sunshine? i mean it is SHINY gold isn't?

but w.e! still looks awesome!

davidm January 31st, 2007 10:48 PM

how do i find the 7th badge pleaseee help me

Kouki Cheong February 1st, 2007 12:25 AM

Your Gym Leader Spriters(Ciawood Gym Leader and Jasmine) is not nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do it properly and post it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, I also support you!!! Good Luck on Beta 4

Goku Goku February 1st, 2007 12:29 AM

Zel, you really did a good job with copying the DP buildings into SG. Well, too bad that SG ain't as advanced as DP in terms of graphics and colours, but what can we do abou ti? You did very fine! :D Well, seems that if you're be changing tiles, development of the hack will take longer, but we can wait! ;)

furrypaws16 February 1st, 2007 4:55 AM

Even though it's been ignored several times (including by Marz, while my post was a few above him..maybe he just ignores me:D) the grasses aren't really vibrant, or colorful. Maybe if it's possible, you could lighten them up one bit? If not, I don't mind. In my idea, though, it drains a little energy and life out of the hack. If you can't do anything about it, I'm totally fine with it. The buildings, perfect scripting, and this being a GS remake makes it awesome, even if you made the grass purple.


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