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rune the 1st April 27th, 2007 3:38 PM

Zel....why are you the poke dude? I just noticed that...and why is the poke dude channel as glitchy as kanto?

Lash April 27th, 2007 4:32 PM

Zel, I noticed a game affecting glitch. It has probably already been complain about, but when the character is doing the Farfrthch'd part, sometimes it will head into the threes and the player cant get into the tree's, so he/she has to exit the forst than enter it again to try to redo it. But otherwise, the Pre-Beta4 looks awesome.

rune the 1st April 27th, 2007 5:26 PM

Wait I thought there was a shiny gyarados.......is there one cause I tried getting it and there was none...
EDIT:ohh....It was only the sprite....

Salemlv13 April 27th, 2007 5:56 PM

Hey so in b3 can you actually catch Latios? or are the islands just for show...? cuz i went and theres a waterfall in the way.

rune the 1st April 27th, 2007 6:27 PM

Why is it that every pokemon I see is a male :(
My espeon never gets to do his attract...
I got to lugia and got a ruby....

zel 2.0 April 28th, 2007 12:06 AM

Answering time! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdfman (Post 2457501)
Hey, I'm trying out that preview that I just saw today(I've played beta 3.5), and I'm using my old save file. I cannot enter Ice Cave, but I know that there is no problem with the patch itself, because I entered Kanto. If anyone knows the problem, please tell me, you'll be doing me a great favor.

I think that the warp is generated if you saved and restarted in a map different than the Route44.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonfan07 (Post 2458163)
hi zel i played the preview of version 4 and i get into blackthorn gym i couldnt get to clair so i used the walkthrough walls cheat to get to her and after she tells me to get the dragon fang i go get it and the clair sprite is already in there i click on her and it freezes

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonfan07 (Post 2458537)
its blackthorn gym but for sum reason u cant get to clair theres a few bugs in the dragons den also

I don't get what the problems are... As I always say, if you went to Kanto and activated flags (sometimes you activate'em even if you don't know about it), and later I need those flags to do stuff, then it's your problem.
By the way, why you can't reach Clair? Haven't you threw the boulders in the 2nd Floor?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wartortle_892 (Post 2458888)
Zel Silver your rival doesn't have a meganium like he should when you fight him in the basement what is happening? i chose totodile in the beggening

Is this problem still occuring in the Preview? (I think I fixed that... even in the Beta3.5, well, I don't remember)

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockman5 (Post 2458910)
im not sure you can mew411....you have to start a new game with a new beta....srry

That's the safest bet. Just to remind everyone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Went (Post 2459558)
I was checking Kanto too and I noticed that he put New Bark on Pallet... probably to grt you transported to New Bark after beating the League. The question is: where is he going to put Pallet now?

If you saw my maps on Advance Map, then you'd find two maps of New Bark O.o
I'm just gonna switch Pallet with N.Bark (but right now, I'd need to map Pallet again)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zebbadi07 (Post 2459851)
wonder if shell steal the kanto badges and this time shell get away with them and we have to track her down anyways cant wait for b4

I had something like that thought... I don't know if I'll do that, though (Because she starts to do bad stuff to other people as well)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rune the 1st (Post 2459944)
Zel....why are you the poke dude? I just noticed that...and why is the poke dude channel as glitchy as kanto?

Because: I replaced the dude's sprite with my own. And because it uses the tiles I replaced. I don't really have the intention of keeping the TV much longer, anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiro Scout (Post 2460003)
Zel, I noticed a game affecting glitch. It has probably already been complain about, but when the character is doing the Farfrthch'd part, sometimes it will head into the threes and the player cant get into the tree's, so he/she has to exit the forst than enter it again to try to redo it. But otherwise, the Pre-Beta4 looks awesome.

Once again problems with Farfetch'd?, man...
But, you will have to be more specific and post a screenshot of where were you talking to Farfetch'd before it went off-screen, because the event is quite complex.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rune the 1st (Post 2460131)
Why is it that every pokemon I see is a male :(
My espeon never gets to do his attract...
I got to lugia and got a ruby....

You refer to the trainer's pokemon, right? Because most trainers are male, so their pokemon correspond to them (That's why I always teach attract to a female poke ;))

That's all about answers. About the game, well, I started to script the trips, but there are a lot of trainers to edit (But at least, I could do a little scripting after so much time! Woohoo!) Not much besides that.

That's all... I'm sleepy so I'll get my earned rest. See ya soon!

Amarillo Del Bosque Verde April 28th, 2007 1:00 AM

Niceness!
 
Gotta say what great work i think your doin' zel! Love the new tiles and the title screen, kinda sucks that very time you release a new version i have to start again, but ow well, just makes it more fun i guess!

Cojones April 28th, 2007 6:35 AM

Hey, this hack is really great! I'm loving it... aahhhh the nostalgia. just started and I'm wondering....

You know when you enter route 46 from route 29 (the beggining of the game) there's this small area where you can battle pokemon.
Well, anyway in the original you could catch a phanpy there in the morning, but as this remake doesn't have day/night I was wondering if it's still there?

Alex April 28th, 2007 7:54 AM

Zel! Awesome! I actually saw this preview a few days ago. But, after playing SG about 3 times, you really don't want to restart. I'm going to wait until the final version comes out before I play it. Still, I'm sure it's great. Argh, I have questions that I know can be answered if I just played the preview... Better not ask them, then :x

trevor813 April 28th, 2007 8:10 AM

heh i beaten all 8 gym leaders and to be honest its exciting

heh my last match with clar is now compressing at youtube.com
well done zel

rune the 1st April 28th, 2007 8:48 AM

I'm going to restart the game and zel great job!
...I just noticed I never gave you congrats for anything....well there's the congrats now!
P.S if your using coronis' sprites why not just use his gym leader sprites...I think he does have them...
P.S.S you can get the togepi egg before the violet badge and after the violet badge (Equals 2) so I think you should fix that

dirk123 April 28th, 2007 11:12 AM

Zel, some events are resetting themself after a while (I think once per day).
The events that are resetting are:
- Treecko event
- Bug catcher (rival 3) in bug park
- Bug catcher above Mahoggany Town

I think the Bug Catcher resets after each Bug Catching competition.

YellowPen April 28th, 2007 7:53 PM

Hey zel if there is no time in shinygold is it possible to get espeon and umbreon. If it not you should make an event for that.

Also I kwow it is possible to get golem and machamp and those pokemon that evole by trading but is it possible to get kingdra and slowpoke in shinygold without trading

thanks for the geat hack

MickyD April 28th, 2007 8:01 PM

Zel! Bud, I just saw the preview to ShinyGold... It is the shizznit! Tiles from Diamond and Pearl, I believe? I just gotta say, this hack is amazing dude! It is very professional, unlike most hacks *cough* Pokemon South Park *cough*

So... anyways, I was wondering if it would be possible for a new rival to appear in the Beta4... Say, a character named Michael? If possible, I'll get a sprite and team ready!

Also, ShinyGold is just, awesome! You very well may be a game designer someday, because this is just amazing!

Archer April 28th, 2007 10:45 PM

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@rune the first - You can't just add sprites, you have to replace an old one, so zel may run out of spare sprites, as there aren't 16 gym leaders in FR.

@rockboy - If you give eevee a sun or moon stone it will evolve into espeon/umbreon respectively. I believe you can catch kingdra and i think you mean slowking?

@mickeyD - SG has 6 rivals at the moment and i doubt zel will add any more.
------------ - Also, it is fine to compare SG to other hacks, but you don't need to pay out on a certain hack. I am not a fan of Pokemon South Park, but if you hadn't noticed, it is supposed to look strange.

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zel 2.0 April 28th, 2007 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cojones (Post 2460556)
You know when you enter route 46 from route 29 (the beggining of the game) there's this small area where you can battle pokemon.
Well, anyway in the original you could catch a phanpy there in the morning, but as this remake doesn't have day/night I was wondering if it's still there?

Yes, Phanpy should be there, and since it was in the original Gold, it would be even easier to find (compared to...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rune the 1st (Post 2460658)
P.S if your using coronis' sprites why not just use his gym leader sprites...I think he does have them...
P.S.S you can get the togepi egg before the violet badge and after the violet badge (Equals 2) so I think you should fix that

The deal on OWs is that I don't want to replace stuff till I'm sure an OW is not gonna be needed, as I always say.
Getting the egg before the badge? But if Elm calls us after coming out of the Gym just for that... And before that, I haven't seen any aid there (perhaps after the Sprout event?, but I don't think so)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk123 (Post 2460782)
Zel, some events are resetting themself after a while (I think once per day).
The events that are resetting are:
- Treecko event
- Bug catcher (rival 3) in bug park
- Bug catcher above Mahoggany Town

I think the Bug Catcher resets after each Bug Catching competition.

"once per day" sounds funny, considering the fact there is no time on FR... :P
But... I hope it is not true, because I had a hard time finding the cause of the resetting in the past, and I fixed it before (hopefully), it should be fixed since the B3.5
Anyway, I don't have the time to confirm on that, and... I'm not caring about that right now...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickyD (Post 2461246)
So... anyways, I was wondering if it would be possible for a new rival to appear in the Beta4... Say, a character named Michael? If possible, I'll get a sprite and team ready!

Also, ShinyGold is just, awesome! You very well may be a game designer someday, because this is just amazing!

Respect other people's work... :)
No, there will be no fanmade teams on SG, since I have enough rivals already (hmmm... seven last time I counted XD)

Yeah... Becoming a game designer would be like a dream for me... Thanks for the kind words!

OK. A little update about the event of the trip between Vermilion/Olivine, Olivine/Vermilion ready. Now we can travel between regions after reaching Cerulean (and beaten the two Kanto Gyms). In fact, remember that travelling to Johto will be optional (if you want Celebii), but you will have to if you want to proceed East or West of Cerulean (you need to do a little event, for which the goal is not clear, but I left a few clues)

And, I also "chained" the Boat trips with the "Timed Events", which means you'll have to wait for a while till a new trip is available (as long as you don't activate another "Timed Event")

Those are the news right now. I don't think I'll be able to do much 'cause another work is starting to come to me... >:o
OK, I'll see what's happenning in the forum, before I actually get asleep... :P

NidoodiN April 28th, 2007 11:39 PM

The Machoke in the dancing girl theatre was supposed to be a Rhydon in the original version. Unless there's no sprite for Rhydon?
Even so, Machoke can't learn Surf, so the old man's situation doesn't really make sense.

Also, is my luck just bad, or has anyone else ever gotten something that wasn't Caterpie or Metapod from headbutting trees?

Amarillo Del Bosque Verde April 29th, 2007 1:27 AM

hey!
 
that betas good man, keep up the good work!
I noticed a few problems in the preview though,
= the mart and pokemon centres borders are the sam as the floor
= if you leave the blackthorne gym and heal your pokemon at the centre before youve put all the rocks in place they ALL go back upstairs (doing that four times really sucks)

looking forward to the next version!

mew411 April 29th, 2007 3:57 AM

i just fought i would say keep up the good work and i no b4 is gonna be big =] XD

Yaziyo April 29th, 2007 4:10 AM

I noticed that in the version 3 and 3.5 the bug contest was only on in certain times in the story and if you missed it you can't go back. I was wondering if this was diferent v4 and if it wasn't, it would probably be a good idea to link it to the timed events (berrys, lapras etc) because the bug catching contest was a favourite of mine in the original.

Oh by the way, the V4 preview is great. :D

Zowayix April 29th, 2007 4:28 AM

I can't wait until B4 is released!
Sorry if this has been asked before, but can you catch celebi in B4 (not the preview)?

Kronos1000 April 29th, 2007 9:29 AM

I have a question regarding Cinabar island will it look like the FR/LG or will it be the gold version with a poké PC an a big volcano? If it's the vulcano thing perhaps you can give it an entrance to a big cave to catch a legendary

dirk123 April 29th, 2007 9:38 AM

Zel, I replayed Beta 3.5 on a clean rom just to be sure,
And it seems that the Bug Catching Contest is resetting some of the events. It resets both Bug Rival battles and the Treecko event. It also resets the Double Rival scene you see at the Lake of Rage.

Also, will the children of the week (Sunny etc) be added in the next Beta? In the B4 preview you kept the house with their locations.

The Spearow dellivery from the original Gold/Silver games doesn't work. You get the spearow, but the guy who has to recieve it does nothing.

On a side note: After you recieve the Eevee from Bill, the computer will still call it Someone's PC.

GoldLine9x April 29th, 2007 10:49 AM

if you catch the red garydose when its blue in the beta 3.5 will you be able to catch the red one in the beta 4?

silver wind April 29th, 2007 11:29 AM

NiDoodin, I found buterfree and exceggute too in trees.
but I think that's all there is. anyone know where can I get a heracross?
oh, and Zel, when you headbut certain trees the game freezes.
they are- the two trees near Union cave's exit, and the two trees behind the officer in the entrance to Goldenrod.

Midnight Beat April 29th, 2007 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zowayix (Post 2461677)
I can't wait until B4 is released!
Sorry if this has been asked before, but can you catch celebi in B4 (not the preview)?

Just in case people don't want to know
Spoiler:
Yes


@Kronos1000 this is a gold remake so it will look similar to the one in gold

aaronburnsyou April 29th, 2007 5:03 PM

Zel, you recently told us that you would put Phanpy in that early patch of grass, b/c someone else said it was there in Gold, but he was wrong. It was Crystal in which that area had Phanpy, and Phanpy was also a Silver exclusive when it was just Gold & Silver.

Lash April 29th, 2007 7:07 PM

I noticed something else with the game. I decided to play as the female sprite in the Pre-Release of the Beta4, I went to go Surf so I could go to Cianwood City, and it looked like the sprite from the previous Betas. It showed both Gold and Crystal on the Surfing Pokemon, and it looks like Gold is trying to bang her since she is sitting right on him. I will try to get a screenshot of it. I just felt like imforming you on this, even though this problem is probably already fixed in the B4.

dirk123 April 30th, 2007 5:45 AM

Found a small bug.
If you go into the Mahoganny Town shop (where TR hideout is) and press A on the box which hides the stairs, it will freeze the game. This is before you meet Lance.

e.d.i.n.i April 30th, 2007 8:43 AM

ok thx ive got it...ure the best ^^ i have a nother question....can u trade pokemons from one game 2 other if u are playing with emulator ?????

Erimgard April 30th, 2007 8:46 AM

I think it's physically possible using flash drives, but it's a pain,
and you don't have to.
Zel is designing it so that all the 'trade only' evolve pokemon will evolve a different way

Chibaymega12 April 30th, 2007 12:38 PM

hey guys, havent been here in a while, but i can see a bunch of progress has been made. Keep it up zel!

Also, i'll be around to answer some of the questions i can answer later.-

Mr. Chess April 30th, 2007 4:45 PM

Small glitch here... after losing to trainer ??? (don't know his name... stupid Yawn-Curse-Tackle combo...) I went into Elm's lab for whatever reason, and the second Pokemon had been stolen already. Is this known already?

Also, before anyone says anything, losing to him doesn't mean I suck. It can be hard to take down a Yawn-Curse-Tackle combo with just Tackle and Leer, especially if your pokemon isn't doing much damage to his. I hate that Slowpoke...

Ivysaur April 30th, 2007 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Chess (Post 2463576)
Small glitch here... after losing to trainer ??? (don't know his name... stupid Yawn-Curse-Tackle combo...) I went into Elm's lab for whatever reason, and the second Pokemon had been stolen already. Is this known already?

Yeah *cogh* first post *cogh*, in fact, the second Pokeball is stolen when you get yours.

YellowPen April 30th, 2007 11:15 PM

Thanks archer for answering my question and yeh i ment slowking

But another question, if the bug contest is only aviable twice, is there any bug contest only pokemon like in gold (sycther,pinsir and weedle evo line) and can you get the first prize without the contest otherwise it pretty unfair.

But still the best rom hack i have ever played

Ivysaur May 1st, 2007 2:39 AM

Well, I have been checking all the headbuttable trees (well, maybe I have left some unchecked in Lake of Rage, too many trees XD), and all worked fine (I even got an Aipom). The only freezing happened during Clair's event in Dragon's Den.
PD: There is a mini of the character in the topmost square in the left in Blackthorn. If you try to talk to him using Gameshark, the game freezes. The game also freezes if you try to talk to the sailor next to the boat in Olivine (the security guy lets you go to the ship instead of stopping you)

Kronos1000 May 1st, 2007 2:59 AM

If you speak to a stone in the Ice Path when it has dropped the game freezes as well

Yaziyo May 1st, 2007 4:20 AM

Got bored and made a shiny gold sig the other day, anyone is free to use it if they want.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7015/pkmnshinygoldsa2.jpg
HTML Code:

[URL="http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=74447"][img]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7015/pkmnshinygoldsa2.jpg[/img][/URL]



zel 2.0 May 1st, 2007 8:40 AM

Let's hope the DB allows me to post by the time I finish this post... :nervous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by NidoodiN (Post 2461471)
The Machoke in the dancing girl theatre was supposed to be a Rhydon in the original version. Unless there's no sprite for Rhydon?
Even so, Machoke can't learn Surf, so the old man's situation doesn't really make sense.

Also, is my luck just bad, or has anyone else ever gotten something that wasn't Caterpie or Metapod from headbutting trees?

There is no OW sprite for a Rhydon, which means I should do one, and I already said what I thought about OW changing...
But about the headbutt trees, pokes there are really rare, you just need to keep trying!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Gyarados (Post 2461553)
that betas good man, keep up the good work!
I noticed a few problems in the preview though,
= the mart and pokemon centres borders are the sam as the floor
= if you leave the blackthorne gym and heal your pokemon at the centre before youve put all the rocks in place they ALL go back upstairs (doing that four times really sucks)

looking forward to the next version!

I don't have problems with the marts and centers sharing the same tile. Nor I do have problems with the rocks getting resetted, because, after all, you should work in the game as much as I worked doing it ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by yaziyo (Post 2461649)
I noticed that in the version 3 and 3.5 the bug contest was only on in certain times in the story and if you missed it you can't go back. I was wondering if this was diferent v4 and if it wasn't, it would probably be a good idea to link it to the timed events (berrys, lapras etc) because the bug catching contest was a favourite of mine in the original.

Oh by the way, the V4 preview is great. :D

Yes, the idea is, once you beat the E4 for the 2nd time, to make the Bug Catching Contest a timed event (so you can do it as much as you wish), but till then, it will be allowed after certain events.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kronos1000 (Post 2462021)
I have a question regarding Cinabar island will it look like the FR/LG or will it be the gold version with a poké PC an a big volcano? If it's the vulcano thing perhaps you can give it an entrance to a big cave to catch a legendary

The idea of a volcano sounds good... The tileset would be the problem...

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldLine9x (Post 2462136)
if you catch the red garydose when its blue in the beta 3.5 will you be able to catch the red one in the beta 4?

This answer will disappoint many, I'm sure. But if you activated the flag for the event of the Red-but-blue-now-Gyarados, then you won't be able to capture again later. People... Remember, these are BETAS. Meaning: You shouldn't really play the game so seriously...

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronburnsyou (Post 2462468)
Zel, you recently told us that you would put Phanpy in that early patch of grass, b/c someone else said it was there in Gold, but he was wrong. It was Crystal in which that area had Phanpy, and Phanpy was also a Silver exclusive when it was just Gold & Silver.

Ah... My mistake then... Anyway, I put Phanpy there, but if it was only in Silver, then it means it would be a rare poke there (not as much as the Hoenn poke, but close to it)

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.d.i.n.i (Post 2463118)
ok thx ive got it...ure the best ^^ i have a nother question....can u trade pokemons from one game 2 other if u are playing with emulator ?????

From a FR to Shiny Gold and viceversa, yes. But from other games I need to see how to allow that. But as it was said, I don't really like the trading thing... But I will implement it sometime.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kronos1000 (Post 2463941)
If you speak to a stone in the Ice Path when it has dropped the game freezes as well

I said I haven't tested anything after the place where the last Beta ended. So hold that kind of glitches, because I will not fix them yet, and they'll get forgotten.

Other answers include...

Hiro Scout: I said that the surfing sprites are still left to do when I released the preview.

dirk123: You keep posting bugs that I fixed in the latest releases, it makes me doubt if you really play the B3.5, so, why don't you get the Preview and see if that kind of problems still occur. Maybe, it could be that I fixed things in SG but not in SGX (or viceversa). But then, it wouldn't matter, since the Beta4 of both versions will be fine.

silver wind: Same goes for you. We got a confirmation from Went, but then it could be that SG is fine and the other is not (or vicewhatever)

Asch_R2 May 1st, 2007 8:50 AM

Hey Zel this is the best looking Gold remake out there, can't wait to play the full version of SGX.

Good Luck.

~Shuya

Kronos1000 May 1st, 2007 10:22 AM

The volcano could use tileset 36 and 57 there is lava and redlike rocks. (I have advance map as well)

kobe_24 May 1st, 2007 5:14 PM

anyone know how i can get a houndour?

been trying to look for one

Yaziyo May 1st, 2007 9:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobe_24 (Post 2464897)
anyone know how i can get a houndour?

been trying to look for one

In the original gold, houndour could have only been found in Kanto. I'm not 100% sure if this is the same but I reckon it would be. You could use fire red cheat codes to obtain one but in doing so, there is a slight chance of messing up your game so do so at your own risk.

Kronos1000 May 1st, 2007 10:40 PM

If this game messes up it ain't that bad if a new beta is released you'll have to start over again as well.

GoldLine9x May 2nd, 2007 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kronos1000 (Post 2465153)
If this game messes up it ain't that bad if a new beta is released you'll have to start over again as well.

you will only have to start over again if you do the kanto glitch.

Kouki Cheong May 2nd, 2007 6:41 AM

Go Zel, I know you can complete it! I always support you! Go! Go!

Casz_* May 2nd, 2007 6:49 AM

I dunno if this is already said, but the border block at the PC and the mart are wrong
Also the corners of the paths are wrong

zel 2.0 May 2nd, 2007 8:39 AM

Hi everyone! Well, since I finished the whole Celebi event, I want to share a few screenies about it with you all... It took me a bit more than I thought, it was quite long, actually... :D

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5092/celebii1jb1.png http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6564/celebii2dr5.png http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2416/celebii3uh3.png http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3710/celebii4ya2.png http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7231/celebii5zm8.png http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9554/celebii6ov8.png

The screenies may not show everything as nice as a video would have done, but you'll have a better "feel" at the event once you play the Beta.

I still need to do the other "Return to Johto" event, but that one will not be as long as this one. That's all for today, see ya!

Erimgard May 2nd, 2007 8:42 AM

wow that looks incredible zel!

jj_olli May 2nd, 2007 9:03 AM

Yeeha!!!! Zel has made Celebi apearing in the game =3. So the next beta will be there soon. And I just want to say again that your hack is amazing.

mamudi May 2nd, 2007 9:12 AM

the big tree's are awesome those are really goof looking GJ with your hack bye

Drahc May 2nd, 2007 9:25 AM

this hack is a good one hope we see more

Ivysaur May 2nd, 2007 9:41 AM

A video would have been great. But I prefer to discover all the event by myself.

Drahc May 2nd, 2007 9:43 AM

we know everything thats in shiny gold
well most of it.
nothing to be suprised by.
oh well.

brendan mc May 2nd, 2007 12:04 PM

so cool
im gonna try the latest beta!

trevor813 May 2nd, 2007 12:38 PM

i do see some bugs zel but i wont bother u about them but all in all ur comming from a long way ;) so in beta 4 when ever that comes out the elete 4 will be reachable???

and the strange things is that i did wake up entei , raikou and suicune earlier but so far I have not encountered them at all which is really weird :/?

antzmaster89 May 2nd, 2007 1:51 PM

Nice screenies zel :P i muchly like them, this hack keeps gettin better n better i love it and cant wait for the full release cause ima play it over and over again haha, well good luck for the rest of the game dude

NidoodiN May 2nd, 2007 5:06 PM

I haven't updated to the preview yet, but is it based on the regular version, or the Shiny Gold X version? (or does it not matter at all?)

Alex May 2nd, 2007 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NidoodiN (Post 2465850)
I haven't updated to the preview yet, but is it based on the regular version, or the Shiny Gold X version? (or does it not matter at all?)

ShinyGold X is a harder version of the game Shiny Gold. Shiny Gold X is just a bonus thing that Zel's making for those people who want a challenge. It being just an bonus, or an alternative, if you will, it's logical that he releases the first and original version preview. So, I would think that SG Preview is based on Shiny Gold, and not Shiny Gold X.

the dark one May 2nd, 2007 9:28 PM

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Hey zel, the picture of celebi is nice and all but, I just like mine too. Maybe you could use both?

e.d.i.n.i May 3rd, 2007 4:39 AM

hello...wfat do i have 2 do that team rocket comes into the radio tower ???

Ivysaur May 3rd, 2007 6:25 AM

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Originally Posted by e.d.i.n.i (Post 2466285)
hello...wfat do i have 2 do that team rocket comes into the radio tower ???

Err... If you want Team Rocket to take over the Radio tower, just get your seventh badge. If you have any problem there please be more specific.

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Originally Posted by trevor813 (Post 2465730)
i do see some bugs zel but i wont bother u about them but all in all ur comming from a long way ;) so in beta 4 when ever that comes out the elete 4 will be reachable???

and the strange things is that i did wake up entei , raikou and suicune earlier but so far I have not encountered them at all which is really weird :/?

Yes, Beta 4 will end in Cerulean, incluiding the Power Plant and the Celebi event. And about the dogs, as Zel said in the first post, he hasn't still found any way to make all three wild (in fire red you only could catch one), so you won't find any of them.

e.d.i.n.i May 3rd, 2007 7:43 AM

ok...can u tell me what have i 2 do wen i get my 3.badge...i dont where to go now becaus i playd gold very long time ago so i forgot xP...pleas help

killer-g May 3rd, 2007 7:49 AM

why can't i get further to the 8th gym i cant get in the ice cave

oli25 May 3rd, 2007 7:58 AM

about the legendary dogs..mayby Zel can add very big cave where will be all three dogs but in other places...something like lugia and ho-oh in emerald, but with wild poks and intems to get.. or like regis in emerald in other but small caves...cave with entei will have lava...with suicune water and raiku other ...

e.d.i.n.i May 3rd, 2007 8:16 AM

becaus that is the end of the game 4 now antil zel updates all thing

hello...me again...i downloaded pokemon shiny gold from emule so i coud open it wit vba easy..but when i get my 4. badge is the game over or bether something blocks the way furder...can i download sgx3_5 from here and patch and that things and coud i use the save file from that other game and play it???

Erimgard May 3rd, 2007 11:40 AM

I downloaded beta 3.5X and didn't really play much because I was busy with other games, but I just downloaded pre-beta 4 and I'm in awe :)
you are my hero zel :D
this and Rijon Adventures are shaping up to be the two best hacks in existence

EDIT:
I just noticed that if you press A while standing next to the door at the Poke'center in Goldenrod it gives the pokemart message instead...I don't know if it's like that for all Pokecenters or not....sorry if this has already been pointed out

SilentWing May 3rd, 2007 6:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zel
Avoid posting glitches about the Preview.

Oops :cheeky: It's gone now :)

zel 2.0 May 3rd, 2007 9:33 PM

I'll repeat it again. Avoid posting glitches about the Preview. Why? Just because of one simple reason: It has not been tested! The reason for releasing a small preview was just to show a bit the changes going on, not to actually think it was a new Beta.
So, once the testing begins I'll surely find the obvious bugs, and if some are skipped (the ones that can be fixed), then you'll be allowed to post glitches about the Beta. But... For one last time avoid posting glitches about the Preview (not even send them by PM), thanks for comprehending that. Hopefully...

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Originally Posted by trevor813 (Post 2465730)
so in beta 4 when ever that comes out the elete 4 will be reachable???

and the strange things is that i did wake up entei , raikou and suicune earlier but so far I have not encountered them at all which is really weird :/?

Of course the E4 will be reachable, since in fact, you'd be able to go to Kanto and reach up to Cerulean's Gym, and fix the power plant (you'll not be able to go anywhere besides Vermillion, Saffron, Cerulean and the power plant, though)
And, we already talked about the legendary dogs, it's a bit complicated thing with them, blah, blah... Let's wait till I can think of something.

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Originally Posted by the dark one (Post 2466071)
Hey zel, the picture of celebi is nice and all but, I just like mine too. Maybe you could use both?

It's the one from the Crystal version. I don't know, maybe I could use it, not sure.

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Originally Posted by e.d.i.n.i (Post 2466352)
ok...can u tell me what have i 2 do wen i get my 3.badge...i dont where to go now becaus i playd gold very long time ago so i forgot xP...pleas help

The 3rd should be the one in Goldenrod (well, I don't remember if it was in the order in the trainer card, if it is not, then... well, I don't remember)

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Originally Posted by e.d.i.n.i (Post 2466374)
hello...me again...i downloaded pokemon shiny gold from emule so i coud open it wit vba easy..but when i get my 4. badge is the game over or bether something blocks the way furder...can i download sgx3_5 from here and patch and that things and coud i use the save file from that other game and play it???

Probably the version you downloaded was an earlier version patched. You'll have to download the new patch and patch it yourself (or find a newer already patched version... hmmmm...)

Well, I'm back at Cerulean after the little trip around Johto, I killed the poor Celebi, but meh... :P

Krobelus May 3rd, 2007 11:35 PM

You killed Celebi?!? How are we supposed to catch it now?!!

Darn.. I needed it for DP, oh well, I guess I will have to hack it then. =P

You look like your doing great! Although I think you need a break, your doing too much haha. But it's up to you.

Anyways, good luck Zel with this, hopefully you will finish this.

Good luck.

Twinx May 4th, 2007 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Raz (Post 2467016)
You killed Celebi?!? How are we supposed to catch it now?!!

Darn.. I needed it for DP, oh well, I guess I will have to hack it then. =P

You look like your doing great! Although I think you need a break, your doing too much haha. But it's up to you.

Anyways, good luck Zel with this, hopefully you will finish this.

Good luck.

he killed celebi, meaning he didn't catch it :D:D:D... dnt worry you'll get the chance to catch it :P

Krobelus May 4th, 2007 8:26 AM

Haha yea.... you know I was joking right?

Vavavoom ♣ May 5th, 2007 1:39 PM

Wow Zel! I really like the look of the game. The graphics are amazing. Although, there is some minor errors in the screen shot of Olivine City.

zel 2.0 May 5th, 2007 11:41 PM

Well, I finished the mapping of Routes 24/25, and added the trainers there, but I still need to do the event with the old guy who asks you for certain pokes (luckily I know how to do that), and give you the stones. After that, there is a new event with Dante and Rina just outside Bill's cottage (he... Remember? They are the love couple, and it's said that Route 25 is the perfect place for dates... Which means, it's time to break their date... >XD)

With a bit of luck, if I have a little time, then I'll start going east of Cerulean to fix the Power Plant (I forgot that was a necessary event to make the event with Misty occur, so I still need to do that in order to make the Gym)

Myzou May 6th, 2007 12:08 AM

Sounds like we're drawing pretty close to B4 release o.O;

Can't wait, Been watching this from the start and love seeing it grow =D

thepog May 6th, 2007 12:13 AM

Did you know?
 
Did you know that NewBarkTowns called Pallet town in you last recent patch?

e.d.i.n.i May 6th, 2007 1:38 AM

where in the union cave or whatever can i catch mudkip ??in water or on ground ?

trevor813 May 6th, 2007 4:46 AM

heh sounds like beta 4 is winding down quicker eh ;) take as much time as u need zel ;)

Ivysaur May 6th, 2007 6:38 AM

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Originally Posted by thepog (Post 2467981)
Did you know that NewBarkTowns called Pallet town in you last recent patch?

Yes, it has been pointed around three times... almost as many times as Zel said he didn't care about the preview glitches.

fidodidox May 6th, 2007 6:58 PM

e.d.i.n.i, Mudkip is in the ground of the union cave, he is lvl 1 :P
Zel, I can`t wait for the beta 4.0, very good job ^^

jonicito May 7th, 2007 4:01 PM

zel, in shiny gold, I like the different dungons and hollen pokemon. Would you able to finish your pokedex?

Cursed May 7th, 2007 6:59 PM

Wow, Zel. 140 pages, and still counting. I think that this romhack, once completed, will simply raise the bar on future hacks. I have been here quite a while, and have seen Shiny Gold progress from a small, almost casual work-on-weekends kind of game to a huge adventure into the depths of Johto.

Just out of curiosity, will Viridian Forest be that stupid hedge maze, or will it be the real deal?

KJY2J May 7th, 2007 7:36 PM

Great game It's realy good.

zel 2.0 May 7th, 2007 8:48 PM

Well, you guys gave me a little nostalgic moment, considering how the hack started, and looking now how much it has gone through... XD

OK, Cursed: Well, I plan to make it look as it did in Gold, not as it did in Fire Red, because, we've had enough of FR's Viridian Forest, right?

jonicito: Well, I hope to be able to put every single pokemon there is, I haven't counted but I think I put like 200/250 or something close to it... (Of course catching Hoenn pokes is something really difficult, but adds to the game)

edini: Actually, you can find it in both ways. But I don't know which would be faster, since there's luck involved.

OK, do you remember I told you I was able to change the TMs? Well, I have started to do the changes, by teaching the pokes which TMs they can learn and which they cannot. So I'll put the list of Shiny Gold's TMs in a spoil just in case you want to see it in-game.

Spoiler:
tm01-dynamic punch
tm02-headbutt
tm03-curse
tm04-rollout
tm05-roar
tm06-toxic
tm07-zap cannon
tm08-aerial ace
tm09-light screen
tm10-hidden power
tm11-sunny day
tm12-safeguard
tm13-ice beam
tm14-blizzard
tm15-hyper beam
tm16-icy wind
tm17-protect
tm18-rain dance
tm19-giga drain
tm20-safeguard
tm21-frustration
tm22-solar beam
tm23-iron tail
tm24-dragonbreath
tm25-thunder
tm26-earthquake
tm27-return
tm28-dig
tm29-psychic
tm30-shadow ball
tm31-mud-slap
tm32-double team
tm33-reflect
tm34-swagger
tm35-flamethrower
tm36-sludge bomb
tm37-sandstorm
tm38-fire blast
tm39-swift
tm40-ice punch
tm41-thunderpunch
tm42-fire punch
tm43-dream eater
tm44-rest
tm45-attract
tm46-thief
tm47-steel wing
tm48-thunderbolt
tm49-fury cutter
tm50-brick break

Yeah... Dragons, Darks and Bugs users will suffer with this list :(


If you see it carefully, you'll notice it's like a "merge" between FR and Gold's TMs list, I just decided to take a few of Gold movements that I didn't like or sounded too repeatitive by their effects. Hopefully it would be a good list (and if, in the future, the Move Tutors could be modified, then I could add a few other moves from Gold that I took from the list)

That's all, I will also write a guide on how to modify the TMs when I finish doing my changes (it involves a little hex in the process, so keep practicing ^.^)

hahyun6 May 7th, 2007 9:31 PM

Zel!!! I'm your fan
I played the preview, it has almost no glitches and its cool!!!
But I wonder if this will help or not.. I think it would be cool, if they sold evolution stones at goldenrod, so that I could evolve growlithe...
and for the pokedex, maybe you could make a trading center, where you could get kadabra and haunters and stuff (You know, they evolve when they are traded)
Anyways, your hack rules!!!

Kaitsu-Gohan May 7th, 2007 9:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hahyun6 (Post 2470542)
Zel!!! I'm your fan
I played the preview, it has almost no glitches and its cool!!!
But I wonder if this will help or not.. I think it would be cool, if they sold evolution stones at goldenrod, so that I could evolve growlithe...
and for the pokedex, maybe you could make a trading center, where you could get kadabra and haunters and stuff (You know, they evolve when they are traded)
Anyways, your hack rules!!!

Actually better yet, trade evolutions should be now level up evolutions. Espeon and Umbreon Evee forms should be stones.

This was actually used in Emerald+ by the way :P
Since Fire Red has no time, that's probably the only way, and since it's a hack of Gold, it should have Espeon and Umbreon.

dirk123 May 7th, 2007 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaitsu-Gohan (Post 2470556)
Actually better yet, trade evolutions should be now level up evolutions. Espeon and Umbreon Evee forms should be stones.

This was actually used in Emerald+ by the way :P
Since Fire Red has no time, that's probably the only way, and since it's a hack of Gold, it should have Espeon and Umbreon.

Eevee already evolves into Espeon and Umbreon with the Sun and Moon stones.
Also, trade pokemon like Kadabra, Haunter etc evolve at level 40.
Not sure about the King's Rock, Metal Coat evo's though....

Zowayix May 8th, 2007 2:40 AM

If I remember right, someone said that scizor is found 1% in the grass below lake of rage, and slowking, politoed, and kingdra are evolved thru water stone.
Not sure about steelix or porygon2 though...
zel, how does clamperl evolve into huntail/gorebyss?

Myzou May 8th, 2007 3:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Zowayix (Post 2470826)
If I remember right, someone said that scizor is found 1% in the grass below lake of rage, and slowking, politoed, and kingdra are evolved thru water stone.
Not sure about steelix or porygon2 though...
zel, how does clamperl evolve into huntail/gorebyss?

lol, Poliwhirl evolves to Poliwrath with Water Stone =P

Atabas May 8th, 2007 4:20 AM

Are you gonna stick a legendary in MT. Silver
somewhere deep or a extra area in that cave

also
if your still having trouble with the legendary dogs poping up in the wild
why don't you just stick them in a very hard to reach place
(eg: suicune very deep in whirl island)

just a possability

Kronos1000 May 8th, 2007 6:32 AM

My suggestions:
Entei Cinabar Volcano (If there's going to be one)
Suicune Aqua cavern (the cave I've noticed is near vermillion)
Raicou ?

XROKASX May 8th, 2007 6:55 AM

and how i ger silver ving ai cant get it please help

seanmorely May 8th, 2007 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by XROKASX (Post 2470978)
and how i ger silver ving ai cant get it please help

You can't get it in this beta and won't be able to get it in the next one either. You get it, in Gold atleast, in Pewter City.

Erimgard May 8th, 2007 7:42 AM

wow, I love the TM selections zel. keep it up!

XROKASX May 8th, 2007 9:08 AM

help!
 
how i can get a seakret poitions to go intu the lighthause

Erimgard May 8th, 2007 9:30 AM

DO NOT DOUBLE POST
and please state your problem more clearly...
you can't get into the lighthouse?
or you just need the potion to give to the girl in the lighthouse?

Dragonzard May 8th, 2007 10:40 AM

I can't play even throught I do what it says. Why is it so?

Erimgard May 8th, 2007 10:55 AM

did you get a blank white screen?

Evil 4 Life May 8th, 2007 11:18 AM

sup zel? any updates on b4?

trevor813 May 8th, 2007 1:00 PM

the tm list is well listed I like it well done Zel ;)


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