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Artanis June 4th, 2007 8:59 AM

Thanks for answering, but you really need to stick to the Gold storyline exactly? I'm sure a lot of fans would appreciate having the tower back, and the tower in the original game has no purpose,, it was seem like whole Kanto zone was rushed. :(

I can't get a masterball since I cant get to mahagoni :(

Ivysaur June 4th, 2007 9:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artanis (Post 2510201)
Thanks for answering, but you really need to stick to the Gold storyline exactly? I'm sure a lot of fans would appreciate having the tower back, and the tower in the original game has no purpose,, it was seem like whole Kanto zone was rushed. :(

I can't get a masterball since I cant get to mahagoni :(

Well, he is adding a lot of changes, but, after all, this is a Gold remake.
About the other thing... You can't go to Mahogany? Weird... Because you can go to Mahogany since B3. Maybe you meant Blackthorn. In the B4 preview you could go perfectly, but there are some problems with it now. :(

Artanis June 4th, 2007 10:00 AM

I apologize, I meant the city after Mahagony the city with the dragon trainer.. I suppose this is in the next beta..

Would I be able to catch the Red Garydoss even though I caught the blue one?

Ivysaur June 4th, 2007 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artanis (Post 2510236)
I apologize, I meant the city after Mahagony the city with the dragon trainer.. I suppose this is in the next beta..

Would I be able to catch the Red Garydoss even though I caught the blue one?

No, if you caught the blue one you won't find the red one... That would cause a serious flag crazyness.
So better re-start the game to enjoy the new tiles!

Midnight Beat June 4th, 2007 10:45 AM

Glad to see Shiny Gold is back up and running. Since I am one of the people who didn't play the preview I like how you are showing screens from where you left off Zel. Can't wait to see more!

Erimgard June 4th, 2007 10:49 AM

Great to see this thread open again Zel :)
Will this be the last beta before the final release? or will there be another later?

shadowboy166 June 4th, 2007 12:02 PM

Great to see you back Zel =).
I thought today "hmm i wonder how Zel is getting on with the virus" so I decided to check and BAM! your back!
I also told my fellow youtubers =) lol.
Can't wait for the next release I realy can't wait... so you better hurry it up... or i may explode...
lol

Zowayix June 4th, 2007 12:02 PM

hi glad to see ur back zel

Alex June 4th, 2007 12:53 PM

ShinyGold's back! YEAH BOI! Just in time for me. xD

Zel u gotta b morr careful next tiem!!

Don't let viruses take over your hack. Oh mighty one.

Alright, well best of luck. I'm glad you got the recovery out of the way and you can start bringing games to the community!

Even if I don't come here often, I'm rootin' for ya! ;D

kyogre1940 June 4th, 2007 3:08 PM

Hello!
 
Welcome back, Zel! It'll be great to have the hack going again. When it comes to music, however... I, unfortunately, have a virus as well. My computer is still running, but everything keeps crashing, and I have a ton of homework that needs to be done before June 8. Ugh. Anyway, before that happened, I have gotten the music up to Ilex forest, but it isn't exporting. So, as a very early b-day present, my dad got me the best music composing program ever!!! So, I'm guessing that the music will sound a bit if not a lot better.
Also, who are going the beta testers going to be? I want to be one, but who wouldn't? :)

trevor813 June 4th, 2007 4:38 PM

Great to see this thread open again Zel
Will this be the last beta before the final release? or will there be another later?
I highly doubt that this will be the end =P ;) but man Zel its been a long time heheh Ive been playin pokemon diamond and pearl but man it seems ur hack is back. So take as much time as u need buddy ok ;)? as for everyone else we all will have to wait .

Lash June 4th, 2007 4:39 PM

Alright Zel your back!
Though we have to wait some time for the Beta4, its worth the wait!
-Pat

Blaziken Trainer June 4th, 2007 5:45 PM

I can't seem to download any of the files. Is anybody else having this problem?

Deshay June 4th, 2007 7:19 PM

Great to see this is back!

zel 2.0 June 4th, 2007 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Went (Post 2510160)
What do you mean with "I will be changing my goals"? How far are you now?

Means that my goals are no longer valid. I'll release the Beta by the end of this month. And after that, I'll rethink my goals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*Gardenia*~ (Post 2510195)
Awesome your back Zel! I'm sure we all missed you!

So we can use the female trainer, just her surfing sprites won't be good?

THANKS AGAIN and I am really looking forward to Beta 4!

Yes I know, the female trainer OW is not finished. However, there will be some heroes OW changing, hopefully for this B4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artanis (Post 2510203)
Thanks for answering, but you really need to stick to the Gold storyline exactly? I'm sure a lot of fans would appreciate having the tower back, and the tower in the original game has no purpose,, it was seem like whole Kanto zone was rushed. :(

I can't get a masterball since I cant get to mahagoni :(

Yes, I need to stick with Gold's storyline, at least for the locations (their interiors are another story...), but buildings and that kind of stuff like that must stick with the original (Besides, there's another Jess/Jamie event there, trying to take over the Radio...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erimgard (Post 2510257)
Great to see this thread open again Zel :)
Will this be the last beta before the final release? or will there be another later?

Originally the plan was one more Beta, then the final release. Probably that'll change a bit making it two more Betas then final release. But that's still in discussion (who am I discussing with? With myself, of course! XD)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyogre1940 (Post 2510425)
Welcome back, Zel! It'll be great to have the hack going again. When it comes to music, however... I, unfortunately, have a virus as well. My computer is still running, but everything keeps crashing, and I have a ton of homework that needs to be done before June 8. Ugh. Anyway, before that happened, I have gotten the music up to Ilex forest, but it isn't exporting. So, as a very early b-day present, my dad got me the best music composing program ever!!! So, I'm guessing that the music will sound a bit if not a lot better.
Also, who are going the beta testers going to be? I want to be one, but who wouldn't? :)

Virus keep atacking? Hate'em...
But it's great to hear you'll be able to make better music (just I hope the midis will sound great as well), because I have practiced with good midis and the sound in the game sounds quite good. :)

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Originally Posted by Blaziken Trainer (Post 2510659)
I can't seem to download any of the files. Is anybody else having this problem?

Since that problem has persisted, then I'll reupload the files. If the problem still persists then go annoy Christos or Scizz XP

OK, time for my last set of screenshots of old stuff (with a little extra in the end). Next time there'll be screenies of Victory Road!

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/9250/image13bf9.png http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8894/image14vq2.png http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9034/image15fv1.png http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/88/image16wr1.png http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3442/image17mw0.png http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3051/image18fo0.png http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8718/image19hp3.png http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/659/image20tr0.png

Krobelus June 4th, 2007 9:34 PM

Wow nice screenshots Zel! Looking very good.

What's up with the Pikachu at the end though? o.o

thepog June 4th, 2007 10:19 PM

Hey Zel yay ur back :D that's so awesome! I hate virus's why do people make them! Can't they get job!

Dudedude June 4th, 2007 11:15 PM

Haha... I like the Pikachu thing.. I'll try the game when its completely done. The Screen shots are enough to tell me this will be great. You have my support!

Edit: Oh..and Who's Amelia? I dun remember her from the original games.

Saken June 5th, 2007 12:59 AM

Alright its back! Greetings Zel its your pupil Giovanni. :P
you hack is back (hey that rhymes) and is kinda the hack that modivates me to hack myslef...thats how good it is!
Glad to see it is back, and i await the release of Beta 4.
Good luck with the rest, Zel.

Giovanni

lamminghong June 5th, 2007 2:28 AM

Hey, Good job on the hack so far.
Just wondering - in your last screenshot, there shouldn't be a PC in that passage towards victory road.

Just a thought, meh.

- lamminghong

dirk123 June 5th, 2007 3:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudedude (Post 2510884)
Haha... I like the Pikachu thing.. I'll try the game when its completely done. The Screen shots are enough to tell me this will be great. You have my support!

Edit: Oh..and Who's Amelia? I dun remember her from the original games.

She wasn't in the original g/s games. She is an extra trainer made by Zel.
You first encounter her in front of the Cianwood gym. Next in front of Mahogony Town shop (giving you items).


Zel, in the preview, when leaving Ice Path I saw a cave entrance above ice path. Will the Ice cave become bigger? Will it have a legendary?

Devil Mewtu June 5th, 2007 4:40 AM

This Game is very nice ;)

Kronos1000 June 5th, 2007 5:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk123 (Post 2511019)
..
Zel, in the preview, when leaving Ice Path I saw a cave entrance above ice path. Will the Ice cave become bigger? Will it have a legendary?

I want some feedback on this as well I saw a waterfall in the Ice Path when I went up there I saw a rock but I couldn't use strenght I only heard the click sound. Doe that path lead to the upper area?

silver wind June 5th, 2007 7:35 AM

hmm.. that pc staying isn't a bad idea.. I hate taking a HM slave with me all the way from the waterfall till the league building..

~Red June 5th, 2007 8:29 AM

Yay! you're back! Will the unknown dungeon be available in Kanto?

Midnight Beat June 5th, 2007 8:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashandmisty (Post 2511194)
Yay! you're back! Will the unknown dungeon be available in Kanto?

Well in the origanal Gold the Unknown Dungeon was closed off from a avalache or something. So I'm guessing it will be the same this time.

martauros June 5th, 2007 8:44 AM

Zel, its good to see u back. I think everyoneis happy coz u're here
Will route 7, 8&Lavender'll be in?
I hope so:-)

martauros June 5th, 2007 8:45 AM

Zel, its good to see u back. I think everyoneis happy coz u're here
Will route 7, 8&Lavender'll be in?
I hope so:-)

dirk123 June 5th, 2007 8:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach805 (Post 2511205)
Well in the origanal Gold the Unknown Dungeon was closed off from a avalache or something. So I'm guessing it will be the same this time.

Many pages back Zel said the cave would be in the hack, but that the way of getting in would be different. I think he said you have to climb the mountain to get in.....

He could have changed his mind by now though.....

Midnight Beat June 5th, 2007 8:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk123 (Post 2511211)
Many pages back Zel said the cave would be in the hack, but that the way of getting in would be different. I think he said you have to climb the mountain to get in.....

He could have changed his mind by now though.....

Ha I remember that now, you're right he did say that. I think the mountian thing was a suggestion thought, but we'll see.

$_$ June 5th, 2007 9:35 AM

Hey the beta won't let me download it.

Syctoplasm7 June 5th, 2007 10:53 AM

hey awsome the beta is comin out soon! hope u don't get anymore viruses! Maybe u should back up ur data

Kronos1000 June 5th, 2007 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kronos1000 (Post 2511081)
I want some feedback on this as well I saw a waterfall in the Ice Path when I went up there I saw a rock but I couldn't use strenght I only heard the click sound. Doe that path lead to the upper area?

I'm sorry to quote myself but I found somthing! The second Dragon Master sais there is a Legendary dragon Pokémon on the top of the den or something. Could it be,
Spoiler:
Rayquaza :)

Zowayix June 5th, 2007 11:17 AM

I can't wait until beta4 comes out!

Oh, and how do you type a spoiler into a comment?

zel 2.0 June 5th, 2007 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk123 (Post 2511019)
Zel, in the preview, when leaving Ice Path I saw a cave entrance above ice path. Will the Ice cave become bigger? Will it have a legendary?

Well, through the game you'll spot a few places new to the game, usually they are gonna be extra locations, and they will contain access to legendaries, extra items, or whatever my imagination tells me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kronos1000 (Post 2511081)
I want some feedback on this as well I saw a waterfall in the Ice Path when I went up there I saw a rock but I couldn't use strenght I only heard the click sound. Doe that path lead to the upper area?

Not exactly, but it will contain... Nah, don't want to spoil the fun! :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamminghong (Post 2511009)
Hey, Good job on the hack so far.
Just wondering - in your last screenshot, there shouldn't be a PC in that passage towards victory road.

Well, I added it so you can prepare yourself for the new Victory Road, as you will need all the skills learned through the game (not to mention is has been drastically changed, making it really long, tiring, and with good pokes. It's a good site for training, as there are different types in the different floors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashandmisty (Post 2511194)
Yay! you're back! Will the unknown dungeon be available in Kanto?

Yes, it's still in. Even though it will be called Unknown Ruins, it will be a little more smaller, but Mewtwo still is there, however...

Quote:

Originally Posted by $_$ (Post 2511233)
Hey the beta won't let me download it.

I added some alternate links to the Betas in my first post, so check out those. But I guess there's some problem relating the DB Errors and the links uploaded at PC. I will try to see if the File Manager allows me to reupload this time (but really, this problem is starting to annoy me, just to let the Mods/Admins know... ;P)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zowayix (Post 2511305)
I can't wait until beta4 comes out!

Oh, and how do you type a spoiler into a comment?

There's a blue-button like "abc", that's the one used for spoilers.

I'll come back later with the screenshots.

the dark one June 5th, 2007 3:22 PM

it's finished!!!:D
 
Hey zel, I have finished the farfetch'd sprite:D unfortunetly, it wont let me attach (:17:) sorry zel:'(.

p.s.
Spoiler:
Im having mood swings

Myzou June 5th, 2007 5:53 PM

Can't wait for b4, as said before, and realized, if it comes out near the end of the month like you said, I'm gonna treat it as a graduation gift XD, As my family ain't givin me one, =P

I'm still loving the new tiles o.o

HCharm June 5th, 2007 7:59 PM

yea its back cool cant wait till u have finish

zel 2.0 June 6th, 2007 9:26 AM

It's time for screenies about the Victory Road, as you can see, it will be a tematic place, with different pokes in each of its four floors ('cept for the annoying Golbats and Gravellers). It will be quite complicated (specially if you are after the items), and as I said, you'll need to bring your HM Slaves to be able to complete it.

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3884/image21jx8.png http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8411/image22fe7.png http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7831/image23ic3.png http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3347/image24aq4.png

Midnight Beat June 6th, 2007 9:36 AM

Nice screens Zel! I really like the last one it's really unique.

Kronos1000 June 6th, 2007 9:43 AM

imo the last one looks a bit wierd it suddenly goes from rocks to grass that's wierd. But nevertheless it's great!

Krobelus June 6th, 2007 9:47 AM

Wow, very nice screens Zel. Looks like you know what your doing! =P Too bad there wasn't a transition between the tiles that are different in the last screenshot. Oh well, never the less, looking good.

akonikui June 6th, 2007 10:07 PM

Let me just say that the one and only reason i registered for these forums was so i could make this post:

This game looks absolutely incredible. Amazing. Please keep going and don't give up. I was randomly searching for information about pokemon on google and stumbled upon your hack; and, after not having played in over 5 years, i'm addicted again. I forgot how enjoyable the world of pokemon could be.

Thanks. Can't wait for the final product.

lamminghong June 6th, 2007 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2511318)
Well, I added it so you can prepare yourself for the new Victory Road, as you will need all the skills learned through the game (not to mention is has been drastically changed, making it really long, tiring, and with good pokes. It's a good site for training, as there are different types in the different floors.

Wooh! I got sick of the GSC victory road (it was practically empty!)

On a side note, if you want, I can also help with music. Keep up the good work!

- lamminghong

YellowPen June 7th, 2007 3:54 AM

Hey zel great to hear shinygold is back

just wondering, will you make it so you verse the harder E4 after getting the kanto badges or not

SkH June 7th, 2007 4:33 AM

Oohh, wow, thanks all, it's so cool!!! ^^ Any info on when this is finished 100%?

Also why did my other 2 post got deleted? I just had that blank screen problem...

mcrc June 7th, 2007 5:23 AM

nice to see you back zel, screenshots are amazing, those are some awesome tiles

Can0fMean June 7th, 2007 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akonikui (Post 2512317)
I was randomly searching for information about pokemon on google and stumbled upon your hack; and, after not having played in over 5 years, i'm addicted again. I forgot how enjoyable the world of pokemon could be.


That's what I was going to say :D

I have seen a lot of great projects like this had failed, but I hope this won't.

Erimgard June 7th, 2007 10:18 AM

liking the way the new victory road looks, but I do agree that last screeny looks a little odd.

Salemlv13 June 7th, 2007 10:50 AM

Will we be able to keep our save files from the old beta on the new one? Like will we be able to continue?

Ivysaur June 7th, 2007 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salemlv13 (Post 2512848)
Will we be able to keep our save files from the old beta on the new one? Like will we be able to continue?

Yes, you can keep your save files from the last beta, but you should re-start it to see it properly.

Salemlv13 June 7th, 2007 11:04 AM

Oh, okay thanks. Cuz i trained a really good team, and i dont want it all to be for naught.

SilentWing June 7th, 2007 11:12 AM

Wow, you really came back quickly and with a bang! In the words of another,
Quote:

Originally Posted by akonikui
Let me just say that the one and only reason i registered for these forums was so i could [say]:

This game looks absolutely incredible. Amazing. Please keep going and don't give up. I was randomly searching for information about pokemon on google and stumbled upon your hack; and, after not having played in over 5 years, i'm addicted again. I forgot how enjoyable the world of pokemon could be.


Zowayix June 7th, 2007 11:14 AM

can't wait till beta 4 comes out!

zel 2.0 June 7th, 2007 1:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamminghong (Post 2512365)
Wooh! I got sick of the GSC victory road (it was practically empty!)

On a side note, if you want, I can also help with music. Keep up the good work!

- lamminghong

Well, I'll call you if more help is needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockboy (Post 2512466)
just wondering, will you make it so you verse the harder E4 after getting the kanto badges or not

Yes, there will be a second wave of the E4 after the Kanto quest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkH (Post 2512490)
Oohh, wow, thanks all, it's so cool!!! ^^ Any info on when this is finished 100%?

No, there won't be info, because I never specify any dates. The releases depend on the progress I have, and the goals I specify.

Some screenshot of the E4 (first part)(you may have seen them in the video, but whatever...)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7335/image25yd3.png http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9913/image26gf7.png http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4028/image27uq1.png http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8753/image28tg1.png http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9922/image29kv7.png http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2897/image30mw9.png http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3707/image31ro6.png

EkshtrimSama June 7th, 2007 3:38 PM

Looks great cant wait for the completion of this game
good to know there are people who keep going with their game until its finished and keep updating about their progress

shadoweevee June 7th, 2007 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zowayix (Post 2513118)
uh zel, under the "currently" thing it says "Restoring everything after the evil virus attack", I thought you already restored everything?

He still needs to fix the some of the trainer's pokemon levels, moves, etc in Shinygold X.

Yaziyo June 8th, 2007 12:16 AM

Man, I'm so glad you came back to this project. I had stopped checking back but today was bored and decided to have a look. Good luck with this ^.^

EkshtrimSama June 8th, 2007 1:09 AM

Just wondering,will Kanto have more things other than getting another 8 badges? because in the original Gold version all you did there was getting the missing part to the power plant,awaking Snorlax and retriving the badges,I was wondering that because thats the part that bothered me the most,and if it wouldve more events it could be the best Pokemon game ever (At least for me)

Short Range June 8th, 2007 1:21 AM

I forgot to mention. I saw this game on GBA. My friend has it. He got it from china. He's been playing it alot too. Why is it on GBA? Did you publish it or something?

Crosell June 8th, 2007 1:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Short Range (Post 2514077)
I forgot to mention. I saw this game on GBA. My friend has it. He got it from china. He's been playing it alot too. Why is it on GBA? Did you publish it or something?

well the game has bin stolen by some guys zel calls them Pirates xD
That game is unfinished and should never be bought ;)
tell him its a worth of crap and i could better download the game from here :D

Can0fMean June 8th, 2007 2:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EkshtrimSama (Post 2514061)
Just wondering,will Kanto have more things other than getting another 8 badges? because in the original Gold version all you did there was getting the missing part to the power plant,awaking Snorlax and retriving the badges,I was wondering that because thats the part that bothered me the most,and if it wouldve more events it could be the best Pokemon game ever (At least for me)

I dont only just agree, but I also want to add some things. There were some parts which dissapointed us at Pokemon G/S/C.

-Safari Zone
-Silph Co
-Perhaps more Rocket people in the 1st and 2nd bullets?
-Giovanni (maybe)?
-Celadon City Under Game Corner
-Pokemon Tower

And some things else I dont remmeber :P

Artanis June 8th, 2007 4:04 AM

^^Thats because Kanto was rushed in G/S/C. Same music in almost every city and a lot of events were removed. Either they didn't have space or it was rushed.

Short Range June 8th, 2007 4:35 AM

How the heck do I download the IPS Patch? Please tell me!

EkshtrimSama June 8th, 2007 4:42 AM

Things like Cinnibar who were erased or replaced (Such as the Pokemon tower) also should be,at least for my opinion and of course if you can do it

SR - theres a download button,i think its in the top left of the site

Can0fMean June 8th, 2007 4:53 AM

Yeah I know that Artanis. So why not Zel add those missing and rushed parts to Shiny Gold to double the fun?

Kronos1000 June 8th, 2007 5:43 AM

A suggestion for the Safari Zone: Make it closed at first, but when you reach a secific area aflag can be set to activate the Safari zone. There was a Safari Zone planned for Gsc it's only reachable via a gameshark see this site for info glitchcity.info/docs/gscsafarizone

You can make the first area like that but you'll have to improvise for the other areas.

Maxim June 8th, 2007 7:42 AM

Victory Road... Interesting. Well, when I play Shiny Gold all my Pokemon (except starter) are HM Slaves. That's Because I don't play hacks to train Pokemon, but to enjoy the hack itself, to visit hacked places and see hacked features. So, I can live with it.

About tileset - Will this tileset be used in the entire game, or just Kanto?

The Amanda girl is still there, well.

And Will's sprite is OK.

Zel, plese, don't expand Kanto. It's fine the way it is in GSC. I know you like alterations from original, but please don't bring Kanto back to its FR/LG state. Don't bring Cinnabar back, don't reopen Safari Zone, don't change Viridian Forest into dungeon. I play GSC Remake to see GSC places.

I know it's just me, you can do whatever you want, it's your hack. But I can say my opinion, can't I?

Good luck, Zel.
I support you.

Tommy June 8th, 2007 8:05 AM

I must say, I've been playing ShinyGold for about 2 days and it is wonderful. I have been looking for something like this for ever and ever, and finally you answer my prayers, Zel. Thank you very much. I really like Carlos, great addition.

I have a few questions too...
1) I found a Mudkip in Union Cave (awesome awesome awesome), was this meant to happen?
2) When I save my game state on my VBA, can I load it up on future versions of ShinyGold beta?

Cheers,
~Tommy

Ivysaur June 8th, 2007 8:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 2514410)
I must say, I've been playing ShinyGold for about 2 days and it is wonderful. I have been looking for something like this for ever and ever, and finally you answer my prayers, Zel. Thank you very much. I really like Carlos, great addition.

I have a few questions too...
1) I found a Mudkip in Union Cave (awesome awesome awesome), was this meant to happen?
2) When I save my game state on my VBA, can I load it up on future versions of ShinyGold beta?

Cheers,
~Tommy

Yes, finding a Mudkip is very rare. You are lucky! Now try to find treecko :P And, about the second question...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Went (Post 2512865)
Yes, you can keep your save files from the last beta, but you should re-start it to see it properly.


Can0fMean June 8th, 2007 8:31 AM

I have just downloaded it today and it is an AWSOME hack.

One question; can only Togepi hatch from the egg which is obtained at Violet City? Or is it like the system in Pokemon G/S/C ?

zel 2.0 June 8th, 2007 8:37 AM

Well, here's the rest of the screenshots of the E4 (boring if you saw the video... But at least, the next set starts with the interesting stuff, till I reach Vermillion, then, if you saw Went's videos, you would get a bit bored again... XD)

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6302/image32ns1.png http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2766/image33ze6.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8932/image34jr6.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9122/image35bn9.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9445/image36kn7.png http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7875/image37en5.png http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3875/image38nm5.png

By the way, I don't intend to modify the basic structure of the original Gold's Kanto mapping, if there are changes, they are just minimal changes, or adding extra events. If I add extra locations, they will end up being small islands (as Nintendo always does... :\)

I'll take care of answering properly later today.

Maxim June 8th, 2007 8:46 AM

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Originally Posted by zel (Post 2514466)
Well, here's the rest of the screenshots of the E4 (boring if you saw the video... But at least, the next set starts with the interesting stuff, till I reach Vermillion, then, if you saw Went's videos, you would get a bit bored again... XD)

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6302/image32ns1.png http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2766/image33ze6.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8932/image34jr6.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9122/image35bn9.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9445/image36kn7.png http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7875/image37en5.png http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3875/image38nm5.png

By the way, I don't intend to modify the basic structure of the original Gold's Kanto mapping, if there are changes, they are just minimal changes, or adding extra events. If I add extra locations, they will end up being small islands (as Nintendo always does... :\)

I'll take care of answering properly later today.

Well, will you rework KAREN sprite? It doesn't look good.

And the Trainer class is supposed to be ELITE FOUR not ELITETRAINER. ELITETRAINER is Japanese name of COOL TRAINER.

Ivysaur June 8th, 2007 8:56 AM

I'm sure he said why did he call them elitetrainers some (or a lot of) pages ago. Maybe I will search it later...

Midnight Beat June 8th, 2007 8:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxim (Post 2514479)
Well, will you rework KAREN sprite? It doesn't look good.

And the Trainer class is supposed to be ELITE FOUR not ELITETRAINER. ELITETRAINER is Japanese name of COOL TRAINER.

Zel had to name them ELITETRAINER because if he gave them the name ELITEFOUR I think it gave them the origanal names from fire red. I think...

Ivysaur June 8th, 2007 9:04 AM

Oh, yes, I found it on page 99. The search option is very useful.
Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2386571)
Well, just two things: the name "Elite Four" has been replaced so I can rename common trainers as "EliteTrainers" and they would get a different music.


Pachel22 June 8th, 2007 9:05 AM

who i'm realy glad to see it back

shadoweevee June 8th, 2007 9:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Short Range (Post 2514262)
How the heck do I download the IPS Patch? Please tell me!

You got to go to the first page and download it. (its at the bottom of zel's first post)

EkshtrimSama June 8th, 2007 9:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxim (Post 2514381)
Victory Road... Interesting. Well, when I play Shiny Gold all my Pokemon (except starter) are HM Slaves. That's Because I don't play hacks to train Pokemon, but to enjoy the hack itself, to visit hacked places and see hacked features. So, I can live with it.

About tileset - Will this tileset be used in the entire game, or just Kanto?

The Amanda girl is still there, well.

And Will's sprite is OK.

Zel, plese, don't expand Kanto. It's fine the way it is in GSC. I know you like alterations from original, but please don't bring Kanto back to its FR/LG state. Don't bring Cinnabar back, don't reopen Safari Zone, don't change Viridian Forest into dungeon. I play GSC Remake to see GSC places.

I know it's just me, you can do whatever you want, it's your hack. But I can say my opinion, can't I?

Good luck, Zel.
I support you.

Look,for me at least,GSC is a great game series the only thing that bothered me as that you get a 2 regions in one game (something that you dont have in any official Nintendo Pokemon game except GSC) so wouldnt you think it deserves alot more than 2 little events and collecting badges? If it was only a Gold Remake with no actual changes,I think it'll be a little boring but with some new stuff this game can easily be a good compete to to the original Pokemon games

Tommy June 8th, 2007 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Went (Post 2514419)
Yes, finding a Mudkip is very rare. You are lucky! Now try to find treecko :P And, about the second question...

Very awesome, thanks a lot. The Mudkip (now a Marshtomp) is female (what are the chances of finding one, then its actually a 1/8th chance of being female) and her name is Violet. I don't want a Treecko, man, I already have an awesome team so far, and I'm planning on making it better...

Oh, and Zel, still looks awesome, man. Keep it up, we're with ya.

Can0fMean June 8th, 2007 10:13 AM

Mh...

I say these places should be redone to double the fun:

-Pokemon Tower
-Safari Zone
-Silph Co.
-Celadon City Under Game Corner
-Giovanni (maybe?)
-Lavender Town Radio Tower

Think about it...

And I am also expressing my ideas^^


Zel, you are cool! I have downloaded some hacks but this one is the best and I think the only one I play ^^

Midnight Beat June 8th, 2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EkshtrimSama (Post 2514526)
Look,for me at least,GSC is a great game series the only thing that bothered me as that you get a 2 regions in one game (something that you dont have in any official Nintendo Pokemon game except GSC) so wouldnt you think it deserves alot more than 2 little events and collecting badges? If it was only a Gold Remake with no actual changes,I think it'll be a little boring but with some new stuff this game can easily be a good compete to to the original Pokemon games

I defiantly agree with you, it sucked in the original GSC how you would complete Jhoto and become the "elite four" champion then go and be bored to death by Kanto.

GoldLine9x June 8th, 2007 10:24 AM

i cant wait for the next beta i love your work zel
i agree with EkshtrimSama kanto was a bit boring it needs some kinda story

Maxim June 8th, 2007 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Can0fMean (Post 2514579)
-Pokemon Tower

Please god no. Don't convert RADIO TOWER back to GHOST TOWER.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Can0fMean (Post 2514579)
-Safari Zone

There is NATIONAL PARK.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Can0fMean (Post 2514579)
-Silph Co.

ROCKETs are gone. SILPH serves no purpose.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Can0fMean (Post 2514579)
-Celadon City Under Game Corner

Again, ROCKETs are gone.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Can0fMean (Post 2514579)
-Giovanni (maybe?)

Well, if GIOVANNI is here, ROCKETs wouldn't have any interest in attacking RADIO TOWER (they attacked GOLDENROD RADIO TOWER in order to contact GIOVANNI)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Can0fMean (Post 2514579)
-Lavender Town Radio Tower

Agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Can0fMean (Post 2514579)
Think about it...

And I am also expressing my ideas^^

That's OK.

Kim Do-yeon June 8th, 2007 10:28 AM

As per usual keep it up!

also two things not to forget and they are:
  • Blaine's new Gym at Seafoam island
  • Cinnabar island totally destroyed

EkshtrimSama June 8th, 2007 10:48 AM

Pokemon tower - I think its pretty stupid from nintendo - a giant graveyard turned into a Radio tower,I think that it should be on another location in Lavender,and not a huge tower where the huge Poke'mon tower from 3 years ago dissapeard almost completly and turned to a 1 floor house..

National park is mainly for bugs,the safari zone has pokemons from other types too,and it can help with places to put all 386 pokemon

Rockets arent gone completly,they have returned and looking for their master,maybe in Kanto youll face Giovanni,which have heard about all that happened and is back to its orgnaizition,thus terrorizing Kanto once again

SilentWing June 8th, 2007 10:52 AM

GSC was awesome because you could gain access to your favorite old region even when you thought it was all over! It was an amazing surprise to me, and it was very nice to see how things changed. It really irks me when you beat a game and never hear from the characters or see the old places again.

BUT I do agree that perhaps a more structured story should exist to guide the player through the second region (Kanto). Without it, exploration and conquest seemed a bit aimless. Look at how well the Fight/Survival/Resort island is carried out in D/P, with your rival battling you, the focus on the legendary Heatran, etc. It's still a bit aimless, but gosh was it fun. So was/is future G/S/C Kanto, but it could have used a bit more structuring.

Ivysaur June 8th, 2007 11:23 AM

Well, let's make some memory. Zel said that he IS redoing Silph Co. (in fact two or three floors dissapeared), with an event involving Jess & Jamie, who have something to do with the Radio Tower in lavender too. Giovanni is gone.
About Cinnabar island he was even thinking about some exploration in the volcano. Viridian Forest will be like in gold.
Ashlee will be wanderering around Kanto. And I'm sure there will be a lot of new events.
Please use the search option before asking things which are very likely of having being answered before.

Midnight Beat June 8th, 2007 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Went (Post 2514665)
Well, let's make some memory. Zel said that he IS redoing Silph Co. (in fact two or three floors dissapeared), with an event involving Jess & Jamie, who have something to do with the Radio Tower in lavender too. Giovanni is gone.
About Cinnabar island he was even thinking about some exploration in the volcano. Viridian Forest will be like in gold.
Ashlee will be wanderering around Kanto. And I'm sure there will be a lot of new events.
Please use the search option before asking things which are very likely of having being answered before.

And let's not forget about all the legendaries he needs to make events for yet.

Can0fMean June 8th, 2007 11:41 AM

GJ zel :D

zel, I sent u a PM, I'll be REALLY glad if you check that and answer me.

And so far, it is an A++++ Hack! If Pokemon Staff would try to remake Pokemon Gold, they couldn't do it better ^^

trevor813 June 8th, 2007 12:22 PM

just a curious question zel once ur all done with beta 4 like for the trainers and etc.. will there pokemon be at there regular levels or at higher levels? ??
im talking about the regular trainers for if u want to rebattle them for more training. Thats what I really mean. because different hacks of patches.
I see there pokemon are at high levels and ill mention 1 hack Pokemon Emerald ++ now that was true challenge ;) but urs will be fun too :P
Samething for the gym leaders if there pokemon are gonna be at a high level also ?
The reason im saying that because Pokemon diamond and pearl with the vs seeker there pokemon are a little bit higher so its a suggestion.

jonicito June 8th, 2007 12:40 PM

Try to be careful insert music because other hacks has anooying beep sound. I hope shinygold has non-anooying sound. Back in gold, Gameshark cause a lot of glitches but shiny gold has very few glitch with gameshark.

SDODC13 June 8th, 2007 1:20 PM

Your house
 
Whats with the pikachu thing behind your house in the left corner?

Midnight Beat June 8th, 2007 2:05 PM

That is a nice find that you want to keep secret in case people want to find it them selfs.

SDODC13 June 8th, 2007 2:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach805 (Post 2514816)
That is a nice find that you want to keep secret in case people want to find it them selfs.

its just kinda random....i can pm you a pic I took of it its just weird...

EkshtrimSama June 8th, 2007 2:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevor813 (Post 2514722)
just a curious question zel once ur all done with beta 4 like for the trainers and etc.. will there pokemon be at there regular levels or at higher levels? ??
im talking about the regular trainers for if u want to rebattle them for more training. Thats what I really mean. because different hacks of patches.
I see there pokemon are at high levels and ill mention 1 hack Pokemon Emerald ++ now that was true challenge ;) but urs will be fun too :P
Samething for the gym leaders if there pokemon are gonna be at a high level also ?
The reason im saying that because Pokemon diamond and pearl with the vs seeker there pokemon are a little bit higher so its a suggestion.

Look at the Elite 4 vid...the levels are pretty uch the same there as the original,but theres the X version if you want harder trainers

zel 2.0 June 8th, 2007 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Short Range (Post 2514077)
I forgot to mention. I saw this game on GBA. My friend has it. He got it from china. He's been playing it alot too. Why is it on GBA? Did you publish it or something?

Of course not. What do we say to Pirates, kids...?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxim (Post 2514381)
About tileset - Will this tileset be used in the entire game, or just Kanto?

It's the common tileset used for exterior maps, so it'll be found in both regions (pssst... After all, didn't Nintendo used the same tileset for both regions? :P)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Can0fMean (Post 2514457)
One question; can only Togepi hatch from the egg which is obtained at Violet City? Or is it like the system in Pokemon G/S/C ?

In Gold you always get a Togepi, as far as I remember...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxim (Post 2514479)
Well, will you rework KAREN sprite? It doesn't look good.

And the Trainer class is supposed to be ELITE FOUR not ELITETRAINER. ELITETRAINER is Japanese name of COOL TRAINER.

Since I have a new spriter helping me, then I guess a lot of sprites will be redone. And the Elitetrainer thing refers to music, 'cause I would like to pick the music a trainerbattle would have, and the only thing I found so far is that it depends on the "Trainer class", changing Elite Four to a less specific Class would allow me to make more trainers called "EliteTrainers", and get a different music.
This is temporary, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevor813 (Post 2514722)
just a curious question zel once ur all done with beta 4 like for the trainers and etc.. will there pokemon be at there regular levels or at higher levels? ??
im talking about the regular trainers for if u want to rebattle them for more training. Thats what I really mean. because different hacks of patches.
I see there pokemon are at high levels and ill mention 1 hack Pokemon Emerald ++ now that was true challenge ;) but urs will be fun too :P
Samething for the gym leaders if there pokemon are gonna be at a high level also ?
The reason im saying that because Pokemon diamond and pearl with the vs seeker there pokemon are a little bit higher so its a suggestion.

I don't know what makes the Vs.Seeker's trainers get their "team LvUps", I think you were refering to that.
Still SGX is a good game if you are the "I like to train" person XD

I don't think we will be able to rebattle Gym Leaders... I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have enough trainer slots for making all the rebattles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonicito (Post 2514744)
Try to be careful insert music because other hacks has anooying beep sound.

I have been practicing. Don't worry ;)

About the discussion on what it should be redone/should remain: Keep in mind that I already planned all the events and all the extra places, so it's pretty pointless to try to change my mind now (you won't be sucessful). After all, the first person who should be happy with the game should be me (it wouldn't make sense to make a game following all the suggestions from all the people, without taking my own decisions)
So, even though I respect all the opinions, everything has already been decided (well, there's only one exception: the Legendary dogs-or-whatever-you-call-them, and that only in the scenario of not being able to make them run wild)

As I said before the locations that were in the original game will remain in the game (else it wouldn't be a good remake). The addition of events and extra locations is just to make Kanto a little longer (and to have more chances of putting more wild Pokemon)

So...

Silph's building has a few extra floors and an event with J&J occurs there.
Lavender's Radio Tower is still there (no creepy tower), it will be as small as in the original, as it's really not an important place (but still, another event with J&J occurs there)
The Safari Zone will be open (no one forces anyone to enter), but this can be a good chance to capture Hoenn Pokemon, if you want to expand the collection.
The Cinnabar Island will be as in the original Gold.
And Team Rocket and Giovanni are out of business (we have enough encounters with J&J, and remember, I don't like TR...)

Artanis June 8th, 2007 2:38 PM

Would you still make Unidentified Ghosts caychable?

Damn I really want Lavender tower back, The radio tower just ruined the city's significent :(

EkshtrimSama June 8th, 2007 2:54 PM

good to know that Kanto will be more than just a region
good luck with that :D

Short Range June 8th, 2007 3:41 PM

I found a grachics glitch. In the Beta Preveiw. Violet City's Pokemon Center has floor tiles where it's supposed to have black tiles.


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