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errero June 23rd, 2007 3:11 AM

very, very good zel the event is great!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt Silver June 23rd, 2007 3:26 AM

Hey zel. Just played the Preview and it's good, to say the least without gushing like everyone else.

One question though: Where's the Odd Egg?

In GSC, you got an egg at Goldrenrod Daycare when you first visited, and it hatched into either Magby, Elekid, Smoochum, Igglybuff, Cleffa or Pichu (I think that's it). Is it going to be in Shiny Gold? With all the new baby's you could add for rarity, it would work (If you could write a good script).

Also, some of your tiling is a little off... the paths in Route 29 and onwards have these weird corners and and jumbled up bits. Also nearly all PC's and Mart's have a border of their floor tiles + the Name Rater in Goldenrod has weird game objects as a border (If you do know all this and have vowed to change it, I didn't know about it).

Anyway, keep it up. You're doing awesome (Apart from that one flub).

Zowayix June 23rd, 2007 3:52 AM

The Odd Egg is only in Crystal, so I don't think zel will put it will ShinyGold.

And about the mapping errors, that is because beta4 preview is not quite a full beta and still has some glitches. Zel asked to PLEASE not post about any beta4 preview glitches. I don't remember, but I think he said he will fix them in the "full" beta4.

And zel, I have a question: On the FAQs of this thread's first post, there's a question that says: "Why does Carlos look like Noland, that Battle Factory guy from Emerald?", and you responded with "T.T". This might be a stupid question, but what does "T.T" mean?

PurityForest June 23rd, 2007 4:49 AM

Wow! Pokemon Shiny Gold is one of the best Rom i have played. :D

Ryousha June 23rd, 2007 6:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zowayix (Post 2550075)
The Odd Egg is only in Crystal, so I don't think zel will put it will ShinyGold.

And about the mapping errors, that is because beta4 preview is not quite a full beta and still has some glitches. Zel asked to PLEASE not post about any beta4 preview glitches. I don't remember, but I think he said he will fix them in the "full" beta4.

And zel, I have a question: On the FAQs of this thread's first post, there's a question that says: "Why does Carlos look like Noland, that Battle Factory guy from Emerald?", and you responded with "T.T". This might be a stupid question, but what does "T.T" mean?

You mean Carlos? Oh he just put him in to like annoy us after some parts in the game lol.

zel 2.0 June 23rd, 2007 6:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeroxorxdiexskater (Post 2548496)
2. will the unowns and the unown pokedex be in the game?

I know the Unowns show up at FR, but for some weird reason when you put Unowns as wild pokemon in a different map than the chambers all you get is the same Unown... So, I suppose in the end I'll use the chambers maps to map the Unown's caves.
And, I don't know... Did FR had something like a UnownDex? (If it hadn't, then forget about it)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk123 (Post 2548525)
Zel, have you thought of a way yet to implement the "Family of the Week" children who give you gifts?

I've been quite lazy with that event. So, it's not in the B4, but I promise doing something about it for the next one. In fact, I've been thinking about changing their locations, don't make them as timed events (do you need many times the same item?), and modify the book at their house to give some clues on where they could be located (obviously, they would be pretty well hidden), instead of just revealing their exact location. Just my first idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossel (Post 2548843)
like maybe a new island with a whole plot on it
maybe a secret area to obtain a legend or something like that ..
its all about the space though
it would make the game much more interesting .. and i know your planning to make it have his diferences .
anyways good luck with everything :D

Well, I don't like to reveal stuff, but obviously, there will be an extra location (yes, some island), just to generate an excuse for the capture of more pokemon (just like Nintendo added the Sevii Islands to FR)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juniorslick (Post 2549228)
a cool concept to add is instead of getting a TM when you beat a gym leader,how about you get there star pokemon

It's interesting, although I want to stick with the original. Though it may be interesting for other hacks...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Silver (Post 2550043)
Hey zel. Just played the Preview and it's good, to say the least without gushing like everyone else.

One question though: Where's the Odd Egg?

In GSC, you got an egg at Goldrenrod Daycare when you first visited, and it hatched into either Magby, Elekid, Smoochum, Igglybuff, Cleffa or Pichu (I think that's it). Is it going to be in Shiny Gold? With all the new baby's you could add for rarity, it would work (If you could write a good script).

Also, some of your tiling is a little off... the paths in Route 29 and onwards have these weird corners and and jumbled up bits. Also nearly all PC's and Mart's have a border of their floor tiles + the Name Rater in Goldenrod has weird game objects as a border (If you do know all this and have vowed to change it, I didn't know about it).

Anyway, keep it up. You're doing awesome (Apart from that one flub).

Well, I played Gold and I didn't got the Egg, and, seeing as I can only script what I'm playing, I'm sticking with Gold (I said before that another egg could come in the future somewhere else)
And, about tiling and all that, the graphical part is not something I'm too interested at, because I prefer priorizing the Scripting, as that makes the game longer at gameplay. In the end, such stuff will be fixed, that's for sure.

And, here's the bunch of screenshots for today...

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7333/image78dh7.png http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4996/image79ur3.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7506/image80ru8.png http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9926/image81rz7.png http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4201/image82sj5.png http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7497/image83tz8.png http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1531/image84re6.png http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9372/image85gg5.png

I made the old guy's event a little longer, as he now gives you an extra Moon Stone and Sun Stone, and a PPMax if show him a... see ya next time!

*Neos* June 23rd, 2007 7:03 AM

Ohh the scans looks great!!! Specially the scan with carlos!!! jeje well my friend!!! I love your hack, i need a new Beta !!! Argg!!! XD... well, good luck!!!!

ciao!

Varimathas June 23rd, 2007 7:03 AM

wow looking good man the sceenies look wonderful :P

Ryousha June 23rd, 2007 7:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2550380)
I know the Unowns show up at FR, but for some weird reason when you put Unowns as wild pokemon in a different map than the chambers all you get is the same Unown... So, I suppose in the end I'll use the chambers maps to map the Unown's caves.
And, I don't know... Did FR had something like a UnownDex? (If it hadn't, then forget about it)



I've been quite lazy with that event. So, it's not in the B4, but I promise doing something about it for the next one. In fact, I've been thinking about changing their locations, don't make them as timed events (do you need many times the same item?), and modify the book at their house to give some clues on where they could be located (obviously, they would be pretty well hidden), instead of just revealing their exact location. Just my first idea.



Well, I don't like to reveal stuff, but obviously, there will be an extra location (yes, some island), just to generate an excuse for the capture of more pokemon (just like Nintendo added the Sevii Islands to FR)



It's interesting, although I want to stick with the original. Though it may be interesting for other hacks...



Well, I played Gold and I didn't got the Egg, and, seeing as I can only script what I'm playing, I'm sticking with Gold (I said before that another egg could come in the future somewhere else)
And, about tiling and all that, the graphical part is not something I'm too interested at, because I prefer priorizing the Scripting, as that makes the game longer at gameplay. In the end, such stuff will be fixed, that's for sure.

And, here's the bunch of screenshots for today...

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7333/image78dh7.png http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4996/image79ur3.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7506/image80ru8.png http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9926/image81rz7.png http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4201/image82sj5.png http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7497/image83tz8.png http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1531/image84re6.png http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9372/image85gg5.png

I made the old guy's event a little longer, as he now gives you an extra Moon Stone and Sun Stone, and a PPMax if show him a... see ya next time!

More Screens =D I like them I wanna kick Carlos butt! the more you show new screens the more it makes me want to play.

Kim Do-yeon June 23rd, 2007 7:09 AM

This hack is still going strong so keep up the good work and when it is finished think of another hack to do in project 2!

dildul June 23rd, 2007 7:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juniorslick (Post 2549228)
a cool concept to add is instead of getting a TM when you beat a gym leader,how about you get there star pokemon

it is better that jou gain a egg of the best pokemon ore else ik would make the game realy easy

birthofdna June 23rd, 2007 7:56 AM

I have to ask:

1. I see what could be a pathway to a cave entrance left of (what used to be) Bill's house. Is that part of a plotline regarding anything?
2. What up with the stairs above the Ice Path entrance in Blackthorn City that I saw in the Beta 4 preview? Is that important somehow, too?

Ryousha June 23rd, 2007 8:01 AM

2.Yeah I think so...
1.Probably is..

hey guys i just fought ho-oh then it had orange health i threw an ultra ball then I caught it =D

dirk123 June 23rd, 2007 8:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birthofdna (Post 2550537)
2. What up with the stairs above the Ice Path entrance in Blackthorn City that I saw in the Beta 4 preview? Is that important somehow, too?

After you talk to any of the 3 Dragon Masters (after beating all 3), they will mention a legendary dragon pokemon is on top of Ice Path. Probably Rayquaza because it's the only legendar dragon pokemon. (unless you count the semi-legendary Dragonite, maybe even the Giant Dragonite from the anime)

Crosell June 23rd, 2007 8:05 AM

whaaa
I hate this xD
The screens look so awsome :D
i really wanna play but try to forbid myzelf playing till its finished xD

vx4theflash June 23rd, 2007 10:00 AM

Er, Zel, I have 2 questions:
1/ Will you change Misty's overworld to fit her G/S sprite?
2/ Where does the stair which near Bill's house lead to? (Maybe somewhere linked to a legendary?)

Ryousha June 23rd, 2007 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vx4theflash (Post 2550780)
Er, Zel, I have 2 questions:
1/ Will you change Misty's overworld to fit her G/S sprite?
2/ Where does the stair which near Bill's house lead to? (Maybe somewhere linked to a legendary?)

the stairs... I don'know But it looks awesome and in Newbarktown theres a tree behind. and also in blackthorns theres stairs up...

and also Bills House maybe its a Giant Dragonite =D

Kim Do-yeon June 23rd, 2007 10:29 AM

I no this is a bit farfetch'd but I remember in the animé series a pink butterfree, so why don't you incorparate one into your game!

It's your game so it's up to you!

Lash June 23rd, 2007 2:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zowayix (Post 2550075)
The Odd Egg is only in Crystal, so I don't think zel will put it will ShinyGold.

And about the mapping errors, that is because beta4 preview is not quite a full beta and still has some glitches. Zel asked to PLEASE not post about any beta4 preview glitches. I don't remember, but I think he said he will fix them in the "full" beta4.

And zel, I have a question: On the FAQs of this thread's first post, there's a question that says: "Why does Carlos look like Noland, that Battle Factory guy from Emerald?", and you responded with "T.T". This might be a stupid question, but what does "T.T" mean?

This question has probably already been answered, but the top of the T are the eyes, the Lines are the tears, and the . is the closed mouth xD

zel 2.0 June 23rd, 2007 3:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vx4theflash (Post 2550780)
Er, Zel, I have 2 questions:
1/ Will you change Misty's overworld to fit her G/S sprite?
2/ Where does the stair which near Bill's house lead to? (Maybe somewhere linked to a legendary?)

1. For now it's the same FR sprite (can you guess what does that mean... Yes! Another sliding sprite, like Lance! XD)
2. To a dream world... Well, at least it'll lead to a blocked zone which is not available in the next Beta.

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aaron (Post 2551512)
Um they're talking about the dragons den because one of the dragon masters speak of a legendary dragon roaming around there. It could be Dragonite Raquaza lugia or any other that looks like a dragon.

It's a legendary, so Dragonite's not in the list.

Well, watch out guys, try not to get offtopic (lately I've seen a few OT posts), even if some offtopic stuff gets asked. This is not a place to chat about tools ;)
[EDIT]: And don't go mini-moddin', Christos, H.Sotomura or Scizz will get over here when they get the chance. At least if you want to do something, report the posts with the "Report" button.

And, I was a bit bored, so I decided to take a look at some scripts, and I made some kind of lotto event, or something like that (you get a ball and if it's colored, you get a prize). Just trying to get a replacement for the Lucky Number Event (it's also held at the Radio of Goldenrod). Do you think a chance of 4 against 1024 is too much? (They charge $300 for each draw)

Apart from that, still fixing stuff for the Beta.

Shadow-Soul June 23rd, 2007 3:35 PM

they are not new they are whats wrong with my game if you want after i will capture some others, but i think thats zels job. heres the problem:

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/davi-shurdha/PokemonShiningGold-1.png

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/davi-shurdha/PokemonShiningGold2-1.png

the first picture is what happens when i push the boulder in the secon picture!

IT DOESN'T APPEAR WHAT IS WRONG I MADE SURE IM USING PREVIEW BETA 4!!!!!!

Momoko June 23rd, 2007 3:37 PM

hmm
 
hmm....i think your problem is you need to push them all down, then you will be able to push one? im not sure...didnt have that problem

DarkEmpoleon June 23rd, 2007 5:17 PM

I got another question, since many more Beta's are going to be coming out and you have to start over everytime theres a new one, is there a way to like, transfer your pokemon from the last beta into the new beta? o_o

Doomtrain June 23rd, 2007 6:29 PM

I have a question...

Is it possible to obtain Espeon or Umbreon in this version?

Its just, im playing it now, and planning on making it as close to my classic lineup as possible, and noticed that there are no day or night scenarios.

pokemona June 23rd, 2007 6:32 PM

My party that beat the hack to the end of B4.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4474/pokemonshinygold01sx6.png

birthofdna June 23rd, 2007 6:44 PM

ANYWAY...

Zel, when the time comes, can you show us what SG's Victory Road will look like? If I were you, I'd use the Indigo Plateau/Route 23 music for Victory Road, considering how dramatic the cave really should be. Dramatic, in this case, meaning arduous, long, and tough.

Plus, a good Pokemon to use against Will's Pokemon and Sabrina's Pokemon would be Sableye (DARK/GHOST, catchable in Burned Tower). I have one that currently knows Faint Attack and Shock Wave---that and a Typhlosion that knows Earthquake and Aerial Ace.

aaronburnsyou June 23rd, 2007 6:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birthofdna (Post 2552351)
ANYWAY...

Zel, when the time comes, can you show us what SG's Victory Road will look like?

Um, I'm pretty sure Zel posted screenies of Victory Road somewhere not TOO far away.

EDIT: In fact, I just found the pics at the bottom of Page 146 of this thread, so you can go take a look!

du1387 June 23rd, 2007 6:55 PM

I'm not sure if this was mentioned earlier, but a minor thing I noticed: if you don't defeat the trainer before whitney (the one who tells you she'll stop crying soon), she'll challenge you even after you beat whitney.

birthofdna June 23rd, 2007 7:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2511801)
It's time for screenies about the Victory Road, as you can see, it will be a tematic place, with different pokes in each of its four floors ('cept for the annoying Golbats and Gravellers). It will be quite complicated (specially if you are after the items), and as I said, you'll need to bring your HM Slaves to be able to complete it.

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3884/image21jx8.png http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8411/image22fe7.png http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7831/image23ic3.png http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3347/image24aq4.png

Oh. DANG, I have a short attention span.:embarrass
What's the BGM used? (DAHHH! there i go again!)

aaronburnsyou June 23rd, 2007 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birthofdna (Post 2552430)
Oh. DANG, I have a short attention span.:embarrass
What's the BGM used? (DAHHH! there i go again!)

I don't think he's stated an official BGM for it yet, so you might just have to wait and see.

Pkmn-Master June 23rd, 2007 7:22 PM

Wow, alot of arguing... Um, anyways, I may have missed any talk about this, but why does kanto have a bunch of glitches in it?

birthofdna June 23rd, 2007 7:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronburnsyou (Post 2552436)
I don't think he's stated an official BGM for it yet, so you might just have to wait and see.

I'd go with the Indigo Plateau theme.

Myzou June 23rd, 2007 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aaron (Post 2552698)
hey shadow you cheated didn't you Haha I only got to level 63. and I can wipe the elite four.

For people who actually played the real gold pick Cyndaquil because it can learn thunderpunch which will come in handy at E4.

Totodile Is secondly recommended for E4 only thats the only time its useful haha.

Well guys You know I spent hours training my Gyradoes to learn hyper beam to ipe the E4.

Before Betas coem out Save the Game Shift F1 then when a new one comes out rename it to the new clean rom and then patch that one. and Also should Mew be in the game?

It's peoples' choice, I always choose Chikorita, cause I fell in love with it when it appeared in the anime =D

Christos June 23rd, 2007 10:34 PM

Okay, most of you have been spamming and doubleposting and made 5 whole pages of stupid stuff.
If this happens again, any person that spams will be warned.
xTNx NiNjA. Shadow-Soul and rei173, you're getting two Warnings for all these pointless posts you've been making all this time.
Do it once more and you're banned.

Lash June 23rd, 2007 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkEmpoleon (Post 2552087)
I got another question, since many more Beta's are going to be coming out and you have to start over everytime theres a new one, is there a way to like, transfer your pokemon from the last beta into the new beta? o_o

Yes actually there is.
Save in a safe place like a Pokemon Center, then delete the Original file you patched over, and when the Beta4 comes out, get the same Fire Red ROM you had from before, but not from the Recycle bin of course, but from the source you got it from.
Then after that, patch over the ROM, then when you open your gameboy, go to File> Load Game, and click on the one where you saved at the Pokecenter.
And Christos, sorry if it seems like I might be constantly posting, but whenever there is a question, it most likely seems stupid to me so I have to answer it, sorry ><;;

Axemag June 24th, 2007 12:32 AM

yai know someone said this but in the blackthorn gym when i press "A" on the boulders in the lava it freezes the game.. what am i supposed to do?

Myzou June 24th, 2007 1:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Silver (Post 2550043)
Hey zel. Just played the Preview and it's good, to say the least without gushing like everyone else.

One question though: Where's the Odd Egg?

In GSC, you got an egg at Goldrenrod Daycare when you first visited, and it hatched into either Magby, Elekid, Smoochum, Igglybuff, Cleffa or Pichu (I think that's it). Is it going to be in Shiny Gold? With all the new baby's you could add for rarity, it would work (If you could write a good script).

Also, some of your tiling is a little off... the paths in Route 29 and onwards have these weird corners and and jumbled up bits. Also nearly all PC's and Mart's have a border of their floor tiles + the Name Rater in Goldenrod has weird game objects as a border (If you do know all this and have vowed to change it, I didn't know about it).

Anyway, keep it up. You're doing awesome (Apart from that one flub).

The odd egg was crystal only, just fyi since Zel mentioned he played Gold and didn't see it, it wasn't in G/S =P

Btw Zel, Cerulean City looks awesome in the new tileset =D

Prof. 9 June 24th, 2007 3:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aaron (Post 2550785)
in Newbarktown theres a tree behind.

There's a Pikachu behind the roof of your house, you can't see it 'cuz it's so small. It'll join you when you talk to it.

Axemag June 24th, 2007 3:23 AM

nvm my comment earlier. i just started a new game and went back and it was fixed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prof. 9 (Post 2553200)
There's a Pikachu behind the roof of your house, you can't see it 'cuz it's so small. It'll join you when you talk to it.

wow i didnt kno that.. i went there and its ok but i wish it would follow u tho, bc u just found it and i want 2 join ur team i would b kool if it would follow u

birthofdna June 24th, 2007 5:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prof. 9 (Post 2553200)
There's a Pikachu behind the roof of your house, you can't see it 'cuz it's so small. It'll join you when you talk to it.

Exactly where is this Pikachu, if it's behind your house in New Bark? And does it disappear after a certain event? Or is there really no Pikachu back there at all?

zel 2.0 June 24th, 2007 6:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trace (Post 2551706)
4 against 1024 isn't very good. Try 4/748.
What are the prizes?

Considering how the possibilities would play in the script I'm using, the other option was 4/256, which was too low in my opinion (I got prizes quite easily, so I prefer the 4/1024)
Prizes would be: Full Restore/HP UP/PP UP/Max Revive

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow-Soul (Post 2551782)
they are not new they are whats wrong with my game if you want after i will capture some others, but i think thats zels job. heres the problem:

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/davi-shurdha/PokemonShiningGold-1.png

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/davi-shurdha/PokemonShiningGold2-1.png

the first picture is what happens when i push the boulder in the secon picture!

Amazing how there are many things out of my consideration. Well, the deal is pushing the specific rock into the specific hole (I'm not that sure if you need to throw it into the specific hole...), in this case the lower right boulder into the hole you were trying the other rock.
Still, that could be considered like a glitch... Don't know if I can do much about it. Wait... Got it, now you can't move that boulder the way you wanted... :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkEmpoleon (Post 2552087)
I got another question, since many more Beta's are going to be coming out and you have to start over everytime theres a new one, is there a way to like, transfer your pokemon from the last beta into the new beta? o_o

Another way would be trading, trading between two SG works fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by birthofdna (Post 2552351)
Zel, when the time comes, can you show us what SG's Victory Road will look like? If I were you, I'd use the Indigo Plateau/Route 23 music for Victory Road, considering how dramatic the cave really should be. Dramatic, in this case, meaning arduous, long, and tough.

I think it has the Victory Road's FR theme. Anyway, once I start to replace music, we would put Gold's VR theme ('cause I want to stick with the original for that)

Quote:

Originally Posted by du1387 (Post 2552390)
I'm not sure if this was mentioned earlier, but a minor thing I noticed: if you don't defeat the trainer before whitney (the one who tells you she'll stop crying soon), she'll challenge you even after you beat whitney.

Another thing that I haven't considered... Hmmm...
[EDIT]: I checked that place, and even though the trainer battles again, every Gym trainer will battle you again, and in fact, that's fine (in my game), it's a failure in the way I made their scripts, but I consider it a way to battle them and get experience if you want.
I just needed to check if, instead of telling you, that trainer battled, breaking the execution of the script needed to allow Whitney to give you the badge, but that's not the case. So everything's fine there ^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkmn-master (Post 2552459)
why does kanto have a bunch of glitches in it?

Because of the Tile Changes, now I'm fixing that as I'm remapping and scripting Kanto.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axemag (Post 2553035)
yai know someone said this but in the blackthorn gym when i press "A" on the boulders in the lava it freezes the game.. what am i supposed to do?

Great, more glitching boulders... I'll fix that, sorry that you restarted the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by birthofdna (Post 2553421)
Exactly where is this Pikachu, if it's behind your house in New Bark? And does it disappear after a certain event? Or is there really no Pikachu back there at all?

It disappears if you talk to it, if you didn't, and it's not there, then it's a glitch. I don't think that part has a glitch, just search carefully (and don't post the exact location)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christos (Post 2552863)
Okay, most of you have been spamming and doubleposting and made 5 whole pages of stupid stuff.
If this happens again, any person that spams will be warned.
xTNx NiNjA. Shadow-Soul and rei173, you're getting two Warnings for all these pointless posts you've been making all this time.
Do it once more and you're banned.

What Christos said. Please, don't go offtopic. I warned you on my previous post. Oh! by the way, thanks Christos for cleaning so many pages... XD

I'll bring more screenshots next time (next set is for my trip back to Johto, so I'll skip some, as it's basically the Celebi event again)

Ivysaur June 24th, 2007 6:12 AM

It's true... In the games, when you beat a leader, all the trainers in the gym won't want to battle you anymore.

Ryousha June 24th, 2007 10:29 AM

Yes But it sort of bug because then they still battle you. I think its just that the game script is way off from gyms thats why i battle all of them first for the exp.

pokemon1.0 June 24th, 2007 10:40 AM

this may have been asked....but how are the badges of kanto supposed to fit on the shiny gold trainer card??? it has only 8 slots....

Kronos1000 June 24th, 2007 10:45 AM

Hey Zel can you post a video of the running Magnet Train I'd love to see that.

Ryousha June 24th, 2007 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemon1.0 (Post 2554039)
this may have been asked....but how are the badges of kanto supposed to fit on the shiny gold trainer card??? it has only 8 slots....

It Can't Because in the original it couldn't But I Think Zel might add the Kanto


And Ill love to see the magnet train in action :)

dgotter June 24th, 2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evanm18 (Post 2538773)
i used a program called gbata and was just tinkering around with different stuff and got it running on my r4 + ez flash 3in1 + DS Lite combo... but now whenever i try to save it says saving... DO NOT TURN OFF THE POWER... save error. if anyone thinks they know why this is happening please PM me or just reply...

It's easier to push the Shift key and then F1. Each of the F Keys is a different save slot. Save in multiple slots, you never know when you might want to go back to a previous part of the game.

Ivysaur June 24th, 2007 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgotter (Post 2554224)
It's easier to push the Shift key and then F1. Each of the F Keys is a different save slot. Save in multiple slots, you never know when you might want to go back to a previous part of the game.

The problem is: when you are going to beat the league, the game will try to save the game, but he won't be able to. And all your data will be erased. So use savestates if you want, but leave the normal save enabled by clicking emulator-options-save type-128k.
EDIT: if you are using a flash cart, there are saving patches for enabling the save. You are supposed to patch the game before inserting in the cart, but I don't know the effects of doublepatching... :S

nrox653 June 24th, 2007 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgotter
It's easier to push the Shift key and then F1. Each of the F Keys is a different save slot. Save in multiple slots, you never know when you might want to go back to a previous part of the game.

Uh, you did notice he was talking about a flash card, not an emulator, right?

Anyways, this is a really great hack Zel! Keep it up! Oh, and by the way, I'd really like to see how the Magnet Train runs as much as that other guy. :)

Ryousha June 24th, 2007 5:35 PM

there was one but that was long time ago... So why do people keep saying those tuff that he quitted after a virus attack.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7730/pikang5.png
Some Minor Glitches When i was fooling around in new bark town I found Gary on the side for some reason and an invisible pikachu Which Was not invisible just behind the house...
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2038/wtftv3.png


EDIT:i thought iw as editing the other post but it seems I Double Posted... Um can a mod or someone know how to merge my posts

birthofdna June 25th, 2007 5:05 AM

Hey zel, how will you go about with the Clefairy event at Mt. Moon?

zel 2.0 June 25th, 2007 6:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemon1.0 (Post 2554039)
this may have been asked....but how are the badges of kanto supposed to fit on the shiny gold trainer card??? it has only 8 slots....

In the original you could only see the 8 badges from Johto. So it'll be the same here (as there's no way, at least for me, to add the pics of the others)

Quote:

Originally Posted by birthofdna (Post 2556062)
Hey zel, how will you go about with the Clefairy event at Mt. Moon?

Mt.Moon will feature another J&J event (trying to capture a Clefairy), after that, I don't think I'll make the normal Clefairy event a "timed event", as it could mean that you would get Moon Stones quite easily. Probably it will become a one-time event.
Or perhaps I could think something else...

OK, more screenshots. This time it's the return to Johto for the Celebii event (don't forget there's another event to do back at Johto, but I don't want to spoil that)

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/865/image86pb2.png http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7329/image87cr8.png http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7114/image88qi4.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7304/image89qq1.png http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4023/image90sf9.png http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/7928/image91tp7.png http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1314/image92ua4.png

thunder rider June 25th, 2007 6:32 AM

Can't wait for Celebii the pics are looking nice
BTW: D/P pokemon sprites would be awesome in the game

birthofdna June 25th, 2007 6:48 AM

zel, if it helps, I just revamped the GSC Mt. Moon caverns map.

Now that I think about it, did I already ask if you run into Amelia in Kanto?

Ryousha June 25th, 2007 6:58 AM

He proabably mustyped love the new pics

BlackDragonite June 25th, 2007 7:19 AM

Yo Zel, , I´ve just played your Hack, and wanted to say: I like it (although I don´t like Gold, silver and Crystal)

BUT: If you speak to the old man in the first town (don´t know the name) and if you answer "yes" to his question if he should show you smth, he shows you the pokémon center, the route ... and the sea. And when he shows the sea, he stands in front of a rock, but his head is in the back (If you know what I mean^^)

And good luck with this.

Ps.: How did you change the intro (the "few words from the author")?

Red1530 June 25th, 2007 7:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2556188)
In the original you could only see the 8 badges from Johto. So it'll be the same here (as there's no way, at least for me, to add the pics of the others)



Mt.Moon will feature another J&J event (trying to capture a Clefairy), after that, I don't think I'll make the normal Clefairy event a "timed event", as it could mean that you would get Moon Stones quite easily. Probably it will become a one-time event.
Or perhaps I could think something else...

OK, more screenshots. This time it's the return to Johto for the Celebii event (don't forget there's another event to do back at Johto, but I don't want to spoil that)

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/865/image86pb2.png http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7329/image87cr8.png http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7114/image88qi4.png http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7304/image89qq1.png http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4023/image90sf9.png http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/7928/image91tp7.png http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1314/image92ua4.png

Nice pictures Zel but I would point out a flaw in the picture where Gold is in his room in on the S.S. Aqua. The flaw is that you have the PA system announced as PDA in the text.

mew411 June 25th, 2007 8:26 AM

cool pics zel XD btw the celebii event looks gud

Silent Storm June 25th, 2007 8:36 AM

Nice screenies of the celebi event zel.

Question, are you going to redo all the maps after the hack is done with scripting, cause they don't look right.

Mew88 June 25th, 2007 8:51 AM

zel changed the tiles to make the game look more original which means i dont think he will change the tiles, i think it makes the game look alot better, personally the tiles zel is using are much better than fire reds tiles.

Ivysaur June 25th, 2007 9:03 AM

What map doesn't look good? If you mean the Kanto ones, obviusly he has to redone all to make them gold-like.

Ryousha June 25th, 2007 9:31 AM

Yup, or he could just use the fire red Map haha, but then the game would be messed up. and i thought zels aid he trainer slots so he might run out or not... But Can't wait to get celebi ^_^ :D

errero June 25th, 2007 10:04 AM

i love the event of celebi and is great
very good zel

Juniorslick June 25th, 2007 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunder rider (Post 2556233)
Can't wait for Celebii the pics are looking nice
BTW: D/P pokemon sprites would be awesome in the game


i agree that diamond and pearl sprites would look awesome..................if you need any help i can quikly resize all the images and cut them pefectly

birthofdna June 25th, 2007 11:44 AM

I agree, that does sound cool! I'd love to see Darkrai ala FR/LG style.

Midnight Beat June 25th, 2007 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birthofdna (Post 2557058)
I agree, that does sound cool! I'd love to see Darkrai ala FR/LG style.

I might be wrong here but I think he means just the sprites not the pokemon. But I do know this for sure, Zel is completely aginst putting in D/P pokemon or Fakemon.

Lash June 25th, 2007 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach805 (Post 2557103)
I might be wrong here but I think he means just the sprites not the pokemon. But I do know this for sure, Zel is completely aginst putting in D/P pokemon or Fakemon.

That is completley agreeable.
I mean, how are a bunch of Pokemon from the Sinnoh Region Pokemon going to make it to Kanto and Johto?
No Sinnoh in Johto! >:0

Red1530 June 25th, 2007 12:05 PM

I just started to play the Beta 4 preview and found four glitches.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/Red1530/Pokemon%20Shiny%20Gold%20Bugs/bug_4.pnghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/Red1530/Pokemon%20Shiny%20Gold%20Bugs/Violet_City_Pokemon_Center.png

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/Red1530/Pokemon%20Shiny%20Gold%20Bugs/bug_2.pnghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/Red1530/Pokemon%20Shiny%20Gold%20Bugs/bug_1.png

Lash June 25th, 2007 12:10 PM

Red1530, a while ago Zel asked for the players not to post glitches about the Preview.

zephern June 25th, 2007 12:25 PM

Hopefully the B4 will make even more easier places to get more Pokemon for the national dex.

KevinSephiroth June 25th, 2007 3:11 PM

wow zephern, your sig takes 80% of my firefox tab in 1280*1024 screen size...
And yeah Zel asked to not post glitches, he knows 99% of them, as he posted them in the first post....

People just don't read through the pages before posting junk? Sure more junk posted without reading through the pages, more pages of junk and.... More people to post this same already known facts because they don't want to read through the whole topic..

Hopeless.

Pkmn-Master June 25th, 2007 4:05 PM

hmmm... very great so far... I can't wait for the release of
~Beta~4~

zel 2.0 June 25th, 2007 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunder rider (Post 2556233)
BTW: D/P pokemon sprites would be awesome in the game

Resuming:
No Pokemon from D/P.
If it's about D/P poke sprites from the first/second and third generations, it could be, but I'm not quite sure, as I'm getting help with some work from scratch.
If it's about D/P poke overworlds from the first/second and third generations, I'm not sure, since they probably use many colors... perhaps? Besides... What do I say about overworlds?

Quote:

Originally Posted by birthofdna (Post 2556262)
zel, if it helps, I just revamped the GSC Mt. Moon caverns map.

Now that I think about it, did I already ask if you run into Amelia in Kanto?

Yes, Amelia is also at Kanto, you'll find her again at the Power Plant, because she wants to go back to Johto using the Train, and, since the train's not working, she's doing some investigation.

Never mind about caves, since I always remap them to be different than in the original (just because I like doing that :D)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDragonite (Post 2556337)
BUT: If you speak to the old man in the first town (don´t know the name) and if you answer "yes" to his question if he should show you smth, he shows you the pokémon center, the route ... and the sea. And when he shows the sea, he stands in front of a rock, but his head is in the back (If you know what I mean^^)

Ps.: How did you change the intro (the "few words from the author")?

I fixed what you told me, but usually tile fixing stuff is something really boring for me -_-
The text at the intro can be changed with Advance Text. Just remember to have the "Special Dialog" box enabled.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red1530 (Post 2556405)
Nice pictures Zel but I would point out a flaw in the picture where Gold is in his room in on the S.S. Aqua. The flaw is that you have the PA system announced as PDA in the text.

Ah... I was close XP

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~ShinyLatios~ (Post 2556533)
Question, are you going to redo all the maps after the hack is done with scripting, cause they don't look right.

I also wonder what maps are you refering about (because saying "all" is not really specific).
By the way, I still trust that Kike-Scott will give me a hand at mapping and tiling stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach805 (Post 2557178)
BTW: Zel, is beta 4 going to be out before the 28th?

No, it should come out by the end of this month (or the first days of July, it depends on the Beta Testing, which is starting to come to its end...)

Ryousha June 25th, 2007 4:33 PM

I Have a few Questions...


1.Will you do like A Pokemon Yellow Remake after Shiny Gold Is done?,You're like a pro =

2.Will you Include the rival of Gold to be in Kanto?

3.Will Red's Pikachu Be Like a challenge, like make it have surf somehow so it can be somewhat challenging?

4.DO You encounter You rival in Mt Moon,I Think you do...or not..?

5.Why Is Blues' Gym Made of Legos?

Zowayix June 25th, 2007 5:08 PM

I could answer a few of those:

1. I'm not sure he will...
2. Yes, he's naturally in there
3. ???
4. Yes you do
5. Because Blue likes legos...lol :D

Skeetendo, Inc. June 25th, 2007 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aaron (Post 2558120)
I Have a few Questions...
5.Why Is Blues' Gym Made of Legos?

Haha, The Legos are supposed to represent his childhood. As you should know Gary is only about 13 in GSC. So as a child, he chose to have his gym be made with Legos!

Anyways, Zel, this looks great keep it up!

Juniorslick June 25th, 2007 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zel (Post 2558078)
Resuming:
No Pokemon from D/P.
If it's about D/P poke sprites from the first/second and third generations, it could be, but I'm not quite sure, as I'm getting help with some work from scratch.
If it's about D/P poke overworlds from the first/second and third generations, I'm not sure, since they probably use many colors... perhaps? Besides... What do I say about overworlds?

Zel thats exactly what i mean the first/second and third generations using the DP sprites.................if u need any help i can do these sprites

Captain Arcane June 25th, 2007 11:01 PM

Hey zel , just com'n by to check up on Shiny Gold, looks great by the way!
Can't wait till its released.

Later

Silent Storm June 26th, 2007 12:29 AM

Quote:

I also wonder what maps are you refering about (because saying "all" is not really specific).
By the way, I still trust that Kike-Scott will give me a hand at mapping and tiling stuff.

Mainly Johto maps, like azalia town.

joshuashughes20 June 26th, 2007 1:32 AM

Hello I have just started playing this game and...OMFG its awesome! Seriously...I have a couple of questions...What is new EXACTLY from the old game ( Other than the graphics ). Are there shinys in this game? And are there double battles?
Thanks

JOSH

thunder rider June 26th, 2007 2:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshuashughes20 (Post 2559091)
Hello I have just started playing this game and...OMFG its awesome! Seriously...I have a couple of questions...What is new EXACTLY from the old game ( Other than the graphics ). Are there shinys in this game? And are there double battles?
Thanks

JOSH

Yey there are shinys and double battles in the game

joshuashughes20 June 26th, 2007 2:04 AM

Ah ok thats cool then. Just wish it was finished thats all!

were-chicken June 26th, 2007 3:16 AM

I'm a chicken. Haha.
I suck

Christos June 26th, 2007 3:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by were-chicken
I'm a chicken. Haha.
I suck

Sure you are. You've just won a trip to banned land.
Have fun~

goldenslider June 26th, 2007 4:23 AM

I luv the idea about the Celebi event similar to that in Crystal. that wwas my one gripe about that generation that we couldn't officially get Celebi that way. I hated using a gameshark on the gb games to do that event.

Testing the hack on a flash card, it doesnt seem to work on a Supercard model, but it does work on a EFA (Extreme Flash Advance), and trades perfectly with a real Fire Red cart. Thank god for that, so I could keep my highly trained Poke's on a later beta.

I luv ya Zel for recreating one of my favourite games.

KevinSephiroth June 26th, 2007 6:05 AM

I have a quick question:
I try to use the kanto glitch seen in youtube and described somewhere on this topic.

So far it seems you need Abra (or other who knows teleport) , and to heal at the pokemon center of Mahogany, then go to the east at route 44 and use teleport (for Beta3)
For beta 4 preview, it seems you need to go to ice path entrance , and use teleport.

In both case, when trying to use teleport, it lells me "want to go to the last heal spot used at blackhorn" ?????

What the? I don't understand. For ex, if I heal at Goldenrod, then fly to ecruteak, I can teleport to Goldenrod, If I heal at ecruteak, teleport will ask to go to ecruteak ... Then if i go to mahogany I can still teleport to ecruteak, but at the moment i heal at Mahogany's PC , and go outside, or to route 44, whatever it will ask to teleport to blackthorn ... Sob.

Anyone can help ?

Ryousha June 26th, 2007 7:13 AM

I think its because the maps was wierd ;)..

KevinSephiroth June 26th, 2007 7:38 AM

So what can I do to fix this? When I fly to NewBarkTown, and try to fly again, I can see kanto map with route4 and route10 or 11 dunno, available.

Route 4 is actually BlackThorn sic, and the other one brings to violet city or cherrygrove don't remember.

zel 2.0 June 26th, 2007 8:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aaron (Post 2558120)
1.Will you do like A Pokemon Yellow Remake after Shiny Gold Is done?,You're like a pro =

2.Will you Include the rival of Gold to be in Kanto?

3.Will Red's Pikachu Be Like a challenge, like make it have surf somehow so it can be somewhat challenging?

4.DO You encounter You rival in Mt Moon,I Think you do...or not..?

5.Why Is Blues' Gym Made of Legos?

1. When I finish this, most likely I'll be a little older, so we should see if I still like Pokémon by that time :P (If I do, then, I don't know what I could do, I'm quite interested in scripting a Diamond premake, but I still can't think too much about that, as I must focus on this project)

2 and 4. Of course, it shows up there in the original, anyway.

3.Ashlee already has a Surfing Pikachu, it would be too repeatitive having two people with the same characteristics.

5.Maybe Skeetendo's right... XD

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinSephiroth (Post 2559368)
I have a quick question:
I try to use the kanto glitch seen in youtube and described somewhere on this topic.

Maybe Went can explain this better, but I think they are able to do it because they are using a save file from an older Beta? (I'm just guessing, I always thought the Kanto glitch disappeared with the Preview)

That's today's quick answering post. I'm kinda busy today (and the next two days), so I better get going! See ya'll!

Ivysaur June 26th, 2007 8:13 AM

Yes, you can only perform the Kanto glitch in B3 or in B4 if you are using a savestate from B3 (and only once). As far as I know, the glitch happened when zel used Route 4 PC for Mahogany, so the game sent you to Route 4. Why does the game send you to Blackthorn now? I have no idea, but it's a wonderful shortcut to forget Ice Cave XD
So, if you want to perform the glitch, pick a B3, it's in the first post.
About the New Bark map: By some strange reason, Pallet's map was replaced by New Bark's one, so you can't fly to New Bark from the islands, but you can fly from Kanto. Route 4 is available because the PC is now in Mahogany, and you have already activated its fly warp. Route 10 (near the Power Plant) sends you to Mahogany... by a mysteryous reason I haven't discovered yet.

Ryousha June 26th, 2007 9:07 AM

Oh you can't get to blackthorn in Beta 3.5? Because I couldn't enter Ice Cave O.o

And Gary SHould Not have Legos IT should Have Me Punching Ash LOl.

Legos=NONO Hes not a kid Hes not a baby.

Also I'm Looking forward to kill the elite four then Fight Red > : D

shadoweevee June 26th, 2007 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBoy617 (Post 2559927)
Zel's avatar is sweet! Anyways, How far are u Zel? You're like just about done with Kanto rite?

Last time I saw the screenshots, he was back in Johto with the celibi event, but I think he said the fourth beta was going to end at the powerplant (Don't know for sure). So yes He is almost done with Kanto, in fat at this rate he might be done with Kanto in beta 5! And He would just fix/add stuff in beta 6. (which is good BTW)

Pkmn-Master June 26th, 2007 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoweevee (Post 2559982)
Last time I saw the screenshots, he was back in Johto with the celibi event, but I think he said the fourth beta was going to end at the powerplant (Don't know for sure). So yes He is almost done with Kanto, in fat at this rate he might be done with Kanto in beta 5! And He would just fix/add stuff in beta 6. (which is good BTW)

How do you know for sure? He could be planning something special... secret Islands... secret warp zones to "secret" places... (My imagination has gone... seriously...)

Dachampster June 26th, 2007 12:27 PM

Is it done yet? If it is, I want to have it, patched, and with a ".GBA". I have been dying to play it.

Hiroki June 26th, 2007 12:34 PM

I have an awesome idea, it would fill a plothole for some fans, how about after the defeat of Red, yu later find him at Viridian with Blue, and this time he actually talks to you, that would be like amazing, [/plot idea stolen from a fake "cheat" my "friend" told me, which i believed because I was GULLABLE]

I look forward to future work/betas :p.

shadoweevee June 26th, 2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkmn-master (Post 2560058)
How do you know for sure? He could be planning something special... secret Islands... secret warp zones to "secret" places... (My imagination has gone... seriously...)

That goes under fix/add stuff in beta six, personally I don't care how long it takes as long as it get done! So take your time Zel! If you have to release a beta 7 or 8 do it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dachampster (Post 2560186)
Is it done yet? If it is, I want to have it, patched, and with a ".GBA". I have been dying to play it.

That is the equivalent of asking for a rom, which is NOT allowed on this fourm (and is illegal) so please don't ask for them, if you want to play it just patch it yourself. If you don't know how click here.

::TSD:: June 26th, 2007 1:54 PM

Ive got a big problem.I recently finished BETA 4 preview and i thought it was really good.OK but then i wanted to play just a plain FIRE RED rom so i downloaded one.i took the rom put it in the VBA and loaded it.but when i got to the title screen it was shiny gold!!! and now every time i download fire red its like its already been patched i want to unpatch it.PLZ HELP ME!

Ryousha June 26th, 2007 2:05 PM

Well Heres a Tip make sure they have different names and if that doesn't work copy the VBA and put it in a new folder

asthegreat June 26th, 2007 2:58 PM

hi .
i think im stuck in the game coz i just won the olivine gym badge and now i dont know what to do can you help me

Digi_hiro June 26th, 2007 3:39 PM

what program you used?I wanna try to make my own own hack of a game.


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