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Eureka1 September 24th, 2006 4:42 AM

help ^_^
 
Salamence lv100
Trait: Intimidate
Nature: Careful
Dragon Claw
Hydro pump
Fly
Fire Blast

metagross lv100
Trait: clear body
Nature: modest
Brick Break
Earthquake
Psychic
Meteor Mash

Glalie lv65 (atm)
trait: inner focus
nature: lonely
shadow ball
sheer cold
ice beam
earthquake

Aggron lv81 (atm)
trait: sturdy
nature: modest
flamethrower
earthquake
ice beam
thunderbolt

gardevoir lv100
trait: synchronize
nature: admant
secret power
shadow ball
psychic
thunderbolt

got 5 pokemon so far :P just not sure what other pokemon i should have in the party.. and can i improve the existing in any way at all <_<

Alter Ego September 24th, 2006 6:58 AM

Oh my...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka1 (Post 2241380)
Salamence lv100 @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
Nature: Careful
Dragon Claw Earthquake
Hydro pump Aerial Ace
Fly Rock Slide
Fire Blast

Seriously, take a look at the nature. Careful (-Sp.Attack + Sp.Defense) is an absolute death sentence for Elemence, a build which is weak and inferior anyway, and what's with Fly? Never take a HM move that isn't called Surf on a pokémon you actually use, those are just wasting space. xP If you're just dying to have a special Salamence then go and breed yourself something with a favourable nature for it, otherwise just go with the regular CBing build (Since Dragon Dance would require breeding)

metagross lv100
Trait: clear body
Nature: modest
Brick Break Agility
Earthquake
Psychic Rock Slide/Explosion
Meteor Mash

Again, a real kick-in-the-head nature. Modest (-Attack, +Sp.Attack) is about as bad a nature as Metagross can get. Get yourself a new one that's Adamant, Brave, or at the very least Impish.

Glalie lv65 (atm)
trait: inner focus
nature: lonely
shadow ball
sheer cold Explosion
ice beam
earthquake/Spikes

Meh, Glalie...it's a weak pokémon really, just dump it for something better, and whatever you do, don't use OHKO moves. They're N00Bish and will always fail you when you need them the most. xP

Aggron lv81 (atm)
trait: sturdy
nature: modest
flamethrower Rock Slide
earthquake
ice beam Focus Punch/Iron Tail
thunderbolt Substitute/Thunder Wave]

Again, simply awful nature. Aggron couldn't make a decent special attacker for the life of it, Modest nature or no, and the double weaknesses against Fighting and Ground combined with its abbysmal Sp.Defense take a way the last of its usefulness. Just replace it, please.


gardevoir lv100
trait: synchronize
nature: admant
secret power Calm Mind
shadow ball Hypnosis/Will-O-Wisp
psychic
thunderbolt

Again, absolutely terrible nature. Gardevoir's Attack sucks royally, so get rid of those physical moves (Preferably get rid of this Gardevoir and get a better one too). Calm Mind to boost Sp.Attack and Hypnosis or Will-O-Wisp to keep your opponent's pokemon at bay.

got 5 pokemon so far :P just not sure what other pokemon i should have in the party.. and can i improve the existing in any way at all <_<

The natures are an absolute blight on your team and considering their high levels the handicaps will be particularly clear. As for what you're lacking...well, a wall above all else, you could try

Milotic @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Surf
Toxic
Rest
Sleep Talk

or

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Double-Edge/Return
Earthquake
Rest
Sleep Talk/Curse

or possibly

Regice @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave/Toxic
Rest

Just to name a few.

jc_rcw September 24th, 2006 7:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka1 (Post 2241380)
Salamence [email protected] leftovers/choice band
Trait: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
dragon dance/brick break/fire blast
aerial ace
earthquake
rock slide


metagross [email protected]Leftovers/choice band
Trait: clear body
Nature: adamant
shadow ball/rock slide/agility
Earthquake
explosion
Meteor Mash

Glalie lv65 (atm)@Leftovers
trait: inner focus
nature: Modest?
spikes
crunch
ice beam
exposion

Aggron lv81 (atm)
trait: sturdy
nature: adamant/impish
rock slide
earthquake
ice beam
substitute/thunder wave/iron tail

gardevoir lv100
trait: synchronize
nature: Modest
Calm mind
Hypnosis
psychic
thunderbolt

got 5 pokemon so far :P just not sure what other pokemon i should have in the party.. and can i improve the existing in any way at all <_<

UGH very bad natures >_> also you seem to have too many physical sweepers. You need more walls to endure hits.

Eureka1 September 24th, 2006 7:12 AM

yeah but like.. i cant just spawn a beldum :P i just shoved aggron in as i found it in my box <_< i have a milotic in my pc.. with.. a quiet nature ^_^'

i swear my game has really crap natures :P guess i'd better start hunting for heart scales on luvdisc then..

jc_rcw September 24th, 2006 8:16 AM

>_>, if you have another game you can trade the beldum D:

Alter Ego September 24th, 2006 8:36 AM

You could also try breeding your Metagross with Ditto. I'm not 100% sure, but I've heard you can do that with pokémon from the genderless egg group.

jc_rcw September 24th, 2006 9:03 AM

You can't do that, metagross has no egg moves. The same with genderless ubers, you can't breed.

aragornbird September 24th, 2006 9:24 AM

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Alter Ego is correct. Only Pokémon in the No Eggs group can’t breed. All Genderless Pokémon outside of that group can breed with Ditto, so you can use it to get better Natures.

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Eureka1 September 24th, 2006 9:35 AM

but i dont have a ditto.. unless i get my friend to trade one from his fire red.. ^_^

midgetjoe September 24th, 2006 9:47 AM

great... now i have to put effort into him getting a better team lol...

And what should he have for his sixth pokemon? no one said execpt Alter Ego

aragornbird September 24th, 2006 9:57 AM

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Do you know each other, Eureka and midgetjoe? O.o

Anyways, this team has a HUGE Swampert weakness. It needs the help of a Water or Grass type with above average defenses. Milotic or Ludicolo are options.

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Eureka1 September 24th, 2006 10:51 AM

swampert :/

salamence @ dragon claw or hydropump (which would do normal damage due to swampert being groud and water D:

^_^ i was thinking more of a mewtwo stopping team :P lol seeing as mewtwo is the best..

well im doing battle tower atm to get that choice band that person at the top said.. although its at random so it might take a while xP i think i'll go for my ludicolo if i can like.. find it xP

thanks for the help ^_^

shanecdavis September 24th, 2006 11:19 AM

I am lolling at your thinking Salamence can switch in on Swampert. Both of your suggested moves will only do 1/4 to 1/3 damage to Swampert while Salamence gets OHKO by Swampert's Ice Beam. When AB says you have a HUGE Swampert weakness, it is because you do.

BTW - Your game must really give you HORRIBLE natures, judging by this team and the one you posted elsewhere (Adamant Kyogre???). Genderless Pokes CAN breed with Ditto and ONLY Ditto. Ditto can also be found in Emerald in Fallarbor. If you don't have Emerald, you are SOL.

Eureka1 September 24th, 2006 12:20 PM

my game is still the first save file from when i brought the game 4 years ago :P so yeah bad natures T_T

lol.. maybe if i stuck in my groudon and used solarbeam i'd beat swampert <_< xP isnt that.. 4x damage?

why did nintendo make so many pokemon.. :P

Rubberbandman September 24th, 2006 1:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka1 (Post 2241687)
my game is still the first save file from when i brought the game 4 years ago :P so yeah bad natures T_T

lol.. maybe if i stuck in my groudon and used solarbeam i'd beat swampert <_< xP isnt that.. 4x damage?

why did nintendo make so many pokemon.. :P

No, dont put Groudon on an OU/UU team, that already makes it Uber and Solarbeam Groundon = Lol use Sceptile


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