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Lapras1016 September 30th, 2006 2:54 AM

Joy the FireRed Blissey =)
 
Hello. I'm the former member Poke-Master, but my e-mail then was deleted and I had to change an account.

Anyway, I've restarted my FireRed version, and I've totally edited a Blissey moveset/EV moveset. However, I have a bit of difficulty. You see, I go for an "annoying-attacking" Blissey, not just that pure Counter/Toxic/Heal Bell/Softboiled set. I seem to be having problems in one attack...

BLISSEY @Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Bashful (wish it could've been Bold... :p)
Toxic
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
???????

IV's (as calculated on the Serebii IV Calculator):
HP - ~16
Attack - ~16
Defense - ~28
Special Attack - ~15
Special Defense - ~24
Speed - ~26


Planned EV Distribution:
HP - 40
Defense - 118
Special Attack - 252
Special Defense - 100


The fourth attack slot is being fought over by two very common Blissey attacks: THUNDERBOLT and ICE BEAM.

Anyone reading this post, please help me! Please don't be too biased, and I would appreciate it if you offer an explanation of why you think it's better for my li'l ol' Blissey. Thanks!

Alter Ego September 30th, 2006 3:10 AM

Counter/Toxic/Heal Bell/Softboiled is most certainly not the pure set, or even a very effective one. To begin with, your EV spread is messed up. Always maximize HP on Blissey! It's hands down Blissey's most powerful stat and so will derive the most benefit from the EVs. Sp.defense on the other hand is redundant since it's high enough by its base stat, maximum Sp.Attack is also just plain wrong. xP The really standard spread would be 252 HP/252 Defense/4 Sp.Attack as going overly offensive with Blissey's mediocre Sp.Attack is just plain lol. The way I see it, Sp.Attack could be around 80 or so, tops (Making a spread of 252 HP/176 Defense/80 Sp.Attack), but anything beyond that would simply be too much out of defensive stats (Even this one is pushing the limit, especially since it isn't even Bold). Ice Beam for that last slot if you're dead set on a damaging move, but don't expect it to be such a glorious fighter. Oh, and drop the coloured

Lapras1016 September 30th, 2006 3:32 AM

That's really nice, but I'm not THAT comfortable with just 80 Sp. Atk EVs. Sorry, it's just me :P How about 240 HP, 130 Defense, 140 Sp. Atk.? IV is only ~13-15 and I wouldn't like a very low Special Attack stat. Haha.

jc_rcw September 30th, 2006 5:31 AM

It still can't do much, it hits mostly the stuff it can ohko with it and pokemons i can't hit with seismic toss. The rest of the time use seismic toss D:

aragornbird September 30th, 2006 2:11 PM

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The main reason people put special attacks on Blissey is to break Gengar’s Subs so it can’t Focus Punch them to death. Most of the time, Seismic Toss will do more damage.

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Kenshee October 1st, 2006 5:00 AM

And Toxic don't work.. I always use this moveset:

Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure/Serene Grace
EV's: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Def.
Bold Nature (+Defense,-Attack)
- Aromatherepy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunderwave/Ice Beam

Rubberbandman October 1st, 2006 7:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aragornbird (Post 2247913)
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The main reason people put special attacks on Blissey is to break Gengar’s Subs so it can’t Focus Punch them to death. Most of the time, Seismic Toss will do more damage.

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They also put I-beam for Salamence, thats the most common one you will find anyway

rekt October 1st, 2006 8:06 AM

Ice Beam isn't for Mence really, it's mostly for the Duggy switch in, but it happens to work for Mence.

yawki4000 October 1st, 2006 3:01 PM

you can put in one of the many special attacks it learns they are very useful.

rekt October 1st, 2006 3:10 PM

Blissey's special attack isn't very good.

n3croart October 1st, 2006 6:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshee (Post 2248663)
And Toxic don't work.. I always use this moveset:

Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure/Serene Grace
EV's: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Def.
Bold Nature (+Defense,-Attack)
- Aromatherepy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunderwave/Ice Beam

^Yeah, that one is the best one. Toxic is an option to annoy people. Watch out for Machamp as it rapes Blissey. Magneton`s Metal Sound helps too.

Rubberbandman October 2nd, 2006 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rekt (Post 2248908)
Ice Beam isn't for Mence really, it's mostly for the Duggy switch in, but it happens to work for Mence.

Duggy switch-ins are rare IMO, I'm more partial to Gengar Explosion + Duggy EQ = dead Bliss


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