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Bomberman October 19th, 2006 1:14 PM

Too Many New Evolutions?
 
Click the spoiler to view the sprites, there's a lot of them...
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Aipom

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Misdreavus

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Murkrow

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Sudowudo

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Mr. Mime

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Chansey

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Snorlax

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Maintain

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Sneasal

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Magneton

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Lickitung

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Rhydon

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Tangela

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Electabuzz

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Magmar

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Togetic

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Yanma

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Eevee

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Gligar

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Piloswine

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Porygon2

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Kirlia

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Nosepass

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Dusklops

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Snorunt


Is it just me, or do most of these seem completely unnecessary?

mrplanters October 19th, 2006 1:15 PM

I think that's a good thing, i mean the more pokemon the better right?

Dingbat October 19th, 2006 1:28 PM

I agree with the first post. Some of them are pretty good, but most of them are daft.

Wingnut October 19th, 2006 3:13 PM

I agree with Dingbat. I like most of them, but the Magmar, Tangela, Lickitung, Chansey, and Nosepass evolutions all suck hard. However, I absolutely love the evo/prevos of Murkrow, Snorlax, Magneton, Mantine, Kirlia, Dusclops, Togetic, Yanma, Eevee, Snorunt, and Piloswine. The other ones are just kinda meh. So, the good outweighs the bad for me but, Man! Tangela and Magmar's evolutions really stink...

Harmony October 19th, 2006 4:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingnut (Post 2268507)
I agree with Dingbat. I like most of them, but the Magmar, Tangela, Lickitung, Chansey, and Nosepass evolutions all suck hard. However, I absolutely love the evo/prevos of Murkrow, Snorlax, Magneton, Mantine, Kirlia, Dusclops, Togetic, Yanma, Eevee, Snorunt, and Piloswine. The other ones are just kinda meh. So, the good outweighs the bad for me but, Man! Tangela and Magmar's evolutions really stink...

i agree with u especially evee , kirlia ,togetic,snorunt and mantine LOL i love them

but u can never have 2 many pokemon

Samson October 20th, 2006 1:50 AM

the tangelo evo will rock hard and you guys just don't know it! with the new grass moves like power whip, it shall make a use of tangela (finally)!

GodofPH October 20th, 2006 8:20 AM

Eh...I'll just say I hate the Tangela, Lickitung, Magneton, Dusclops, Kiralia, Roselia, Togetic, Yanma, and Nosepass evos... A lot of those just make me wonder, "Why?"

The Rhydon evo, while looking awesome, is completely uncessary IMO. Rhydon was big and bad enough on its own, giving it an evo just takes away what made it awesome

The new Eeveelutions were enevitable...but why did it have to be Grass and Ice types? Vaporeon already learns ice attacks on its own! Why not have a Ghost Eeveelution, or perhaps Steel?

Samson October 20th, 2006 10:03 AM

i'll agree, the kirlia, the chansey, electabuzz and magmar, piloswine, snorunt, roselia, nosepass, rhydon, and ice eevee evolutions aren't necessary whatsoever. a ghost eevee wouldn't be necessary considering you have umbreon to contend in quite the way a ghost pokemon might, but a steel pokemon would be a much better replacement for the ice.

the new species of pokemon seem to be even better contenders than most of these evos anyway.

Latios Master October 20th, 2006 10:20 AM

I think they over did it a little with the new evolutions.

Seiji Tatsuo™ October 20th, 2006 10:40 AM

I like them actually. Not all of them, of course, such as Togetic's, Nosepass's and Gardenvoir's, but some of them are very, very cool. I think they're new move arsenal will make them even cooler, IMO.

Harmony October 20th, 2006 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodofPH (Post 2268933)
Eh...I'll just say I hate the Tangela, Lickitung, Magneton, Dusclops, Kiralia, Roselia, Togetic, Yanma, and Nosepass evos... A lot of those just make me wonder, "Why?"

The Rhydon evo, while looking awesome, is completely uncessary IMO. Rhydon was big and bad enough on its own, giving it an evo just takes away what made it awesome

The new Eeveelutions were enevitable...but why did it have to be Grass and Ice types? Vaporeon already learns ice attacks on its own! Why not have a Ghost Eeveelution, or perhaps Steel?

and wind !!!!
an evee lution with wings
thats the one i would want my evee to evolve into

Blastoise October 20th, 2006 2:02 PM

My esteemed opinion on these new evolutions:

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Aipom: Pretty cool looking; I like the two tails thing goin' on. Aipom needed an evolution, too.

Misdreavous: Looks awesome on its own, but I don't imagine Misdreavous turning into it...x_x

Murkrow: Eh. Not a worthy successor to Murkrow...I don't like the white patch on its belly.

Bonsly: I never liked Sudowoodo much in the first place, so it doesn't surprise me in the least that I dislike Bonsly.

Mime Jr.: I honestly cannot imagine Mr. Mime's baby form being this.

Chansey: This one is absolutely and utterly perfect. It's what I imagine a baby Chansey being like. It's absolutely adorable!

Munchlax: Doesn't look like it should turn into Snorlax, to be honest...I dislike the bug eyes.

Mantine: Cute, but I doubt that Mantine needed a preevolution.

Weavile: Crap! Get me one of these on my team, now! I love it. The headdress is awesome, not to mention it finally has a nice row of teeth.

Magneton: Looks like a weapon used by some Bond villain. But...no lethal injections or anything cool springs from that rounded bottom part. Me no likey. Grr.

Lickitung: Kind of lame. I so like how fat it is, though...fits Lickitung's appetite.

Rhydon: Kickass. I'm putting one on my team for certain.

Tangela: Not too much of a far cry from Tangela. I like it.

Elekible: Looks like a walking carpet. I'd like it perfectly if it didn't have those weird antennae things on its back.

Magmar: It looks like an evil fire-clown, but I like that kind of thing. So I like this one, a lot.

Togetic: NEEEOOORRRMMM! AIRPLANE!

Yanma: ...it's evil and horrible. Yanma doesn't deserve this.

Grass Eevee: It's about time.

Ice Eevee: See "Grass Eevee." And it's not unnecessary...it looks so cute!

Gligar: If I ever get one of these, I'm naming it Alucard, I swear...it's an evil vampire thing.

Piloswine: Doesn't look like something Piloswine would turn into, but good otherwise.

Porygon Z: GOKU! THIS CREATURE WILL DESTROY THE WORLD IF WE ALLOW IT TO GROW ANY STRONGER! IT MUST BE STOPPED!

Kirlia: Pretty neat, but Meditite/Medicham is enough Fighting/Psychic for me...this is kind of unnecessary.

Nosepass: Looks like it should be classified as the "Russian Commie" Pokemon in the Pokedex.

Dusclops: It's some kind of clown...hahaha. But I like it.

Snorunt: Hurray for Ice/Ghost! I like this one very much, it's cute but kind of creepy. Just like a ghost should be.


I disliked many of these at first, but they've really started growing on me. Many of these evolutions are for Pokemon that needed them desperately. I noticed in Ruby and Sapphire, I really had a hard time finding any Pokemon that I could use easily while trying to stray from my usual favorites (Blastoise, Ninetales, etc.) and almost all of these are welcome changes. I only hate two or three of the new ones.

Seiji Tatsuo™ October 20th, 2006 3:13 PM

Heh, I agree whole heartedly with Blastoise with all of them except for Magneton's evolution, Yanma's Evolution, and Snorlax's pre-evolution. I like those three personally. Though, maybe it's just moi...

Yami Rui October 20th, 2006 4:22 PM

I'm not too happy with the lack of Game Freak's creavity but hey if they're pokemon, I'll experiement with them to see how they work with me.

Munchlax's pre evolution and Murkrow's/Misdrevaus's evolutions are just awesome IMO.

Blastoise October 20th, 2006 4:54 PM

Oh yeah, and you forgot...

Spoiler:
...Roselia's new evolution and preevolution. Personally, I like the evolution; the white bits on it remind me of Shiftry. The preevolution is unnecessary...and I honestly don't like the way it looks.

Volta. October 20th, 2006 6:36 PM

I like most of them.
This question may seem a little awkward considering evos of original pokemon was the main focus of the 4th generation

Weatherman, Kiyoshi October 20th, 2006 6:52 PM

I'm kinda glad they finally made a grass type evo of Eevee. But Nosepass creeps me out. I think thats the only one that SHOULD stay a no evo. all the rest is meh, Dusclops evo dosen't look like it should evoled from it. and the apom evo was predictible.

dandelion October 25th, 2006 5:52 AM

Some of those don't look like real Pokemon, or any kind of evolve form... but you left out the evolved form of roselia and electabuzz. In my opinion they all look like deformed deoxys, I mean with the arms and all.

Oh, my mistake. Electabuzz is there. I apologize.

Tsugaru October 25th, 2006 7:17 AM

Please don't double Post! Read the rules..

Well I personally like it<3 More pokemon the better my team,I adore most of the evolutions and I can't wait to test them out!

Gigerm October 26th, 2006 10:59 AM

i think the magmar evolve is a rip off a digimon ive seen

Forci Stikane October 26th, 2006 2:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigerm (Post 2274695)
i think the magmar evolve is a rip off a digimon ive seen

And which one would that be?

Gigerm October 26th, 2006 2:55 PM

cant find a picture and cant remember the name but it's a humoniod flame creature

Gary, the Magic Fairy October 26th, 2006 3:41 PM

I like all the new pre/evolutions. I wish there were more...alot more. Some that really needed them didn't get them, like Shuckle, Dunsparce, Pinsir, and Kangaskhan, etc. Actually, I would've liked it if it were only pre/evolutions. I found most of the "new" pokemon to be disappointing.

I also like the alternate evolutions...though I would've liked more.

Ninja Monkey October 26th, 2006 7:46 PM

Well as long as the new evolutions are good enough for standard play I'm all for it. That means more pokes to play around with!

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ October 27th, 2006 3:09 AM

They never should have made an evolution of Togepi and Magneton. Murkrow defenitly needed a evo because it was too weak

:t093:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~


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