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SCYTHER was my favorite R/B/Y PM, but SCIZOR became my favorite past G/S/C. I'm trying to figure how I would go about adding SCIZOR to me team, but none of SCIZORS moves are really that good. SCIZORS limmited move selection puts it at a dissadvantage in terms of strategy or suprize and it's and low Speed and Special Defence combined with it's 4X weakness to fire attacks make it easilly cut down. However, in it's defence, it's physically sturdy with great HP, Defence, and a nasty Attack power. Back during Pokemon Stadium 2, SCIZOR was my dominating opener PM who could generally take out several on his own, but there's quite a bit of difference between battling a computer and battling a player.
I'm looking forward to the WII game coming out that allows for incredible 3D and multiplayer online gaming, so I'm trying to put together a good team that doesn't rely on legendaries asside from Suicune. So, anybody have sudgestions on what to do with a SCIZOR? It's not that difficult to figure a place for him during team battles, combineding him with a strong water type, but I'm looking to make him a viable stand-allone force. Here's my plan so far... While I was originally planning on adding Double Team to his move set, it just seems like that strategy would just take too long to build up facing the wrong oponent. To deal with his lack of speed, I added the Quick Claw for the chance to at least get the first strike. Instead of useing Double Team, oddly enough SCIZOR is capable of learning Rain Dance and cutting down fire damage all together. Thanks to what I learned about EV training I can better choose stats in his defence, though I plan on sacraficing his worthless Special Attack for beefing up his defences. Personality: Careful (+Special Defence, - Special Attack) EV Training: HP, Attack, Special Defence and/or Speed (Can't decide...) Moves: Return Steel Wing / Sleep Talk Rain Dance Rest Agility is the only real powerup move SCIZOR learns, but it's not really that useful in the long run. How is it SCIZOR can learn Rain Dance anyway? Seems like the only addition this move would have is to increase it's resistance to the only attack that is effective against it. As for personality, the original plan was to go with Adamant and beef up his attack to excede 400 with EV Training. For referance, I have a level 99 Adamant SCIZOR that has not undergone EV training yet, His stats are... HP 266 Attack 321 Defence 233 Special Attack 107 Special Defence 169 Speed 135 |
lol wtf carefull, no you want adamant with something like
- Silverwind - Batonpass - swords dance/agility - substitute |
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I'd really like to rely on a hold item other than Leftovers. Leftovers just seems too overused and I'd rather use it only on 1 or 2 members of my team. With Substitute, I'd really require the use of Leftovers. |
Silverwind is the second strongest bug move, plus it gets stab, doing more damage than return.
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Looks like I've got some stratagizing here. I could sacrafice Scizors Attack and raise Speed and Special Defence while still retaining an attack power of around 300, give or take. Beefing up Speed and Special Defence would actually make Scizor a fairly well ballanced PM, with the exception of Special Attack. The reason why I do not vouch for Silverwind is because it is weak against Fire and Scizor needs all it can get to fend off a Fire attack, which is also why I had not opted to add Steel Wing.
Given the right atributes Scizor might be able to hold his own. As I stated, Rain Dance is a viable defence against Fire, though there's not many level 100 popular Fires with speed lower than 135 and would probubly defeat Scizor with even the Rain Dance defence as a second attack and Rest is simply not an option in this situation. I might be able to pull off a victory against a Flareon with the above Scizor, but it's not something I can expect to take down a Charizard with. I'm kinda picky though. Substitute may be good if I beefed up Scizors HP more, but I already have a good Sub on my team and it'd just be too tacky to have a second. :\ |
Scizor @ Leftovers / Lum Berry
Timid Nature -Agility -Swords Dance -Silver Wind -Baton Pass Hope this helps. |
Dude, you're just not listening, are you? -.-
1. Scizor's Sp.Defense and HP are both average, it does, however, hava a double weak against Fire, so even with the rain reducing to a single weak Scizor would still be OHKOed by most STAB fire moves unless you put an insane amount of EVs into Sp.Defense and HP, which is lol since that way Scizor won't be able to accomplish anything even remotely useful. Besides, a Rain Dance is just inviting swift swimmers like Ludicolo (Since you don't even have a bug move to hit it with on the switch) or even Kingdra to jump in and sweep past your Scizor with STAB water moves, or, optionally, bulky waters which will just sit there, take your pathetic Return, and Surf the crap out of you. There's a bulky water on practically every pokémon team, so Rain Dance Scizor is very, VERY poor strategy. 2. Normal moves on non-normal pokémon (Excluding Quick Attack, Extremespeed, self-destruction moves and, in certain cases, Double-Edge) are a waste. The strongest move a Scizor can get is a fully powered Hidden Power [Bug] (base power 70 with STAB = 70 x 1.5 = 105, add Swarm and a bug weak to that and you get some pretty good damage), but most people prefer Silver Wind for the chance of a passable stat boost it provides. 3. Quote:
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Oh, and Lugialord, wtf is the point with giving Scizor a Timid (-Atk, +Spd) nature? It doesn't need the speed since it's got Agility, and Timid cuts down Silver Wind's power. Impish or Adamant are what you need. |
I'm not too concerned about facing a Fire PM with a Scizor. If a Fire PM comes out I'd attempt a switch, plain and simple. The reason I'm looking for a defence against fire moves is because of the 'unexpected'. Scizor may be strong against Psychic types like Alakazam, but that doesn't mean Alakazam might not know a non-psychic attack. I'm more concerned about surviving the Fire Blast from a Nidoking than a Charizard. :D
After doing some more digging I found that Scizor can learn Light Screen through egg moves. This seems like a better option that Rain Dance. New possible moves... Hidden Power (bug) Agility Light Screen Rest Breed for a more durable Adamant Scyther with Light Screen, hopefully a 31 stat or two, and use Agility and Light Screen when I can afford to. Quote:
Deep breaths, no need to burst a vein O Puba of Pok'e. :P |
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Fire Punch is Alakazam’s second best attack. You should automatically assume any Alakazam will have one. Learn about standard sets and not many things will be unexpected. Even Weezing and Snorlax with Fire Blast won’t be a surprise since they are viable options from their list of moves. Good luck getting an HP Bug above 60 power. =p Other options besides BP include Reversal Scizor and CB Scizor. They’re all better than a Scizor with Light Screen, lol. ~*^*~~*^*~ ~*^*~ ~*^*~ ~*^*~~*^*~ |
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