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Alex January 7th, 2007 10:25 AM

What's the best starters to choose from?
 
What do you guys think is the best starter to choose from, including the 3 already set sets (excluding D/P's starters): Charmander, Bulbasaur and Squirtle. Cyndaquil, Totodile and Chikorita & Torchic, Treecko and Mudkip.

Eruption January 7th, 2007 10:29 AM

Kanto: Charmander
Johto: Cyndaquil
Hoenn: Mudkip

IMO are the best to pick but if only one I'd say Mudkip even though my fave poke is Typhlosion.

BowserBlastoise January 7th, 2007 10:59 AM

Kanto: Squirtle
Johto: Totodile
Hoenn: Treecko

Treecko may not be the best as far as stats, but I'm the type who prefers to play with what i like instead of whats "best".

.Bastion January 7th, 2007 11:08 AM

Kanto: Squirtle. In it's final evolution, it gets great Tanking capabilities and good stats. Also a good type.

Johto: Chikorita. Maybe not for ingame but it does an excellent job on defending since it learns the screen moves and has a good stat distribution.

Hoenn: Mudkip. Swampert is just awesome. It learns great moves, has stats where it needs it, and a good typing combination.

I'd have to say Mudkip is probably the best starter out of all of them.

Alex January 7th, 2007 11:23 AM

Key, I stalled Chikorita's evolution until about level 29 and it's defense is pathetic. So I decided to let it evolve, even though it takes more time to learn those good moves.

The Fallen January 7th, 2007 12:00 PM

This goes in Other Pokemon Games because it's talking about all of them and not just Fire Red or Leaf Green.

Moved~

Alex January 7th, 2007 12:06 PM

Okay, uh... thanks... Aeon...?

.Bastion January 7th, 2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by marz (Post 2347657)
Key, I stalled Chikorita's evolution until about level 29 and it's defense is pathetic. So I decided to let it evolve, even though it takes more time to learn those good moves.

I was referring to Meganium. ._.

Alex January 7th, 2007 1:03 PM

Oh. Well I thought you were talking about Chikorita because during my evolution stalling, Chikorita learned a whole lot of screen moves. So yeah. Heh...

//_Blaze_// January 8th, 2007 3:12 AM

Kanto: Squirtle
Johto: Tododile
Hoenn: Torchic.

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MrDreavus January 8th, 2007 4:25 AM

Kanto: Squirtle
Johto: Totodile
Hoenn: Treecko or Torchic, I can't choose. I don't like Mudkip T_T

Alex January 11th, 2007 2:39 PM

All of you guys like the water starter! I don't.... I don't like water types all too much. I hate what the D/P fire starter is (my fav. type is fire). It's so... not original....*tear*

.Bastion January 11th, 2007 3:29 PM

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Originally Posted by marz (Post 2352706)
All of you guys like the water starter! I don't.... I don't like water types all too much. I hate what the D/P fire starter is (my fav. type is fire). It's so... not original....*tear*

That's probably because water types are one of the best in the game. They only have two weaknesses and are so variable you can fit them in almost any situation.

Alex January 11th, 2007 7:44 PM

True... they also can learn the ever so needed Surf. But... I like fire. It's only weaknesses are ground, rock and water... right...? AND CHARIZARD CAN LEARN FLY!

Legendary Squirtle January 11th, 2007 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Key (Post 2347645)
Kanto: Squirtle. In it's final evolution, it gets great Tanking capabilities and good stats. Also a good type.

Johto: Chikorita. Maybe not for ingame but it does an excellent job on defending since it learns the screen moves and has a good stat distribution.

Hoenn: Mudkip. Swampert is just awesome. It learns great moves, has stats where it needs it, and a good typing combination.

I'd have to say Mudkip is probably the best starter out of all of them.

So true, I agree compleatly. Those are the starters I choose Fire Red , Gold and Emerald

Eruption January 12th, 2007 8:10 AM

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Originally Posted by marz (Post 2352991)
True... they also can learn the ever so needed Surf. But... I like fire. It's only weaknesses are ground, rock and water... right...? AND CHARIZARD CAN LEARN FLY!

your saying Only to 3 weaknesses I don't think you can say Only for that many.

Smarties-chan January 12th, 2007 10:47 AM

I'd have to say:

Kanto: Bulbasaur. Venusaur has decent Defense and HP and good Sp.Defense, and since I prefer defense over offense, Vensuaur instantly becomes a favourite. That Sleep Powder + Leech Seed combo is pretty sweet and Sludge Bomb and Earthquake really hurt Fire and Grass types that think they can come in and ruin Venusaur's fun. Vensuaur can also learn fun moves like Swords Dance and Synthesis, actually making it pretty versatile when it comes to movesets. Venusaur's good Speed is also nice for outspeeding stuff with Sleep Powder. =D

Johto: Cyndaquil. Though I like both Meganium and Feraligatr more, Typhlosion is the most useful of the Johto starters imo. Though Typhlosion's movepool is limited, Flamethrower and Thunderpunch combined with Substitute and Petaya can do many wonderful things. <3 That schmexy base Sp.Attack of 109 combined with almost as schmexy Speed makes this thing a good special sweeper even though Typhlosion would like a bigger special movepool.

Hoenn: Mudkip. Do I really need to say why Mudkip is the best? Not only does Swampert take hits like nothing, but it can also dish out alot of damage with Earthquake and Rock Slide, and for certain Pokémon - Ice Beam. Though I'm not fond of Cursepert myself, a Swampert with Curse can destroy whole teams if used right. However, in my opinion, what makes Swampert truly schmexful is its awesome movepool. Swampert can learn many wonderful moves like Mirror Coat, Counter, Roar, Earthquake, Surf/Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Curse and Rest (even though it's a very common move.), making it a very versatile Pokémon, which is lurve. <3

Even though Swampert is doubtlessly the most commonly used starter Pokémon, I'd say Venusaur is my favourite starter both in terms of appearance and how well it prefers in competitive battles. That doesn't stop Swampert from being an awesome Pokémon, though.
Quote:

True... they also can learn the ever so needed Surf. But... I like fire. It's only weaknesses are ground, rock and water... right...? AND CHARIZARD CAN LEARN FLY!
Whopee! Charizard can learn a horrible two turn move with a small chance to miss as a nice little bonus. -.- Fly's base power is 75, Wing Attack's and Aerial Ace's 60. It takes 2 turns for Fly to deal damage worth 75 base power while you can deal damage worth 120 base power in the same time with Wing Attack or Aerial Ace. Fly also makes you vulnerable to Thunder, which really sucks. =\ Therefore Aerial Ace/Wing Attack > Fly.

Alex January 12th, 2007 8:02 PM

Quote:

Whopee! Charizard can learn a horrible two turn move with a small chance to miss as a nice little bonus. -.- Fly's base power is 75, Wing Attack's and Aerial Ace's 60. It takes 2 turns for Fly to deal damage worth 75 base power while you can deal damage worth 120 base power in the same time with Wing Attack or Aerial Ace. Fly also makes you vulnerable to Thunder, which really sucks. =\ Therefore Aerial Ace/Wing Attack > Fly.
Actually, I was refering to the fact that you wouldn't have to walk to wherever you want to get to around Kanto/Johto/Hoenn whichever you have the pokemon in. The move is as you described it, but I was leaning to the fact of the wonderful HM. Charizard is schmexy because it can learn Fly...

Smarties-chan January 13th, 2007 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by marz (Post 2354183)
Actually, I was refering to the fact that you wouldn't have to walk to wherever you want to get to around Kanto/Johto/Hoenn whichever you have the pokemon in. The move is as you described it, but I was leaning to the fact of the wonderful HM. Charizard is schmexy because it can learn Fly...

Only HM slaves are schmexy if they can learn Fly. Fly is a waste of a much needed moveslot for Charizard, and giving it Fly just makes Charizard cry. ;_;

Alex January 13th, 2007 10:36 AM

heh Fly and cry rhymes. Fine. But I still like Fire types alot. More then water. xP

Archer January 13th, 2007 2:17 PM

just thought i'd point out that charizrd and typhlosion have exactly the same stats.

Archer January 13th, 2007 2:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marz (Post 2352991)
True... they also can learn the ever so needed Surf. But... I like fire. It's only weaknesses are ground, rock and water... right...? AND CHARIZARD CAN LEARN FLY!

Since when are flying pokemon vulnerable against ground attacks?
Char only has two weaknesses - water x2 and rock x4

Alex January 13th, 2007 2:58 PM

2 things.
(1) Archer you double posted, merge those 2 please.
(2) Archer is right! Charizard becomes flying so he becomes immune to ground type moves! So only 2 weaknesses that can be overcome if you've got him at a high level with strong attacks like Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Arial Ace/Wing Attack, Blast Burn for good measure and one other attack that you may choose.

EDIT: This thread's about to have a second page! ^_^

Mudkip85 January 13th, 2007 5:31 PM

Mudkip would have to be the best starter for me to pick out of all the other generation starters because of the fact that it has a wide range of types of moves it can learn. For Kanto id probably choose charmander and for johto id pick cyndaquil.

~Kipper~

Alex January 13th, 2007 10:03 PM

Hm... I like your choices Kipper. I think you've got the same choices as me,
Kanto: Charmander
Johto: Cyndaquil
Hoenn: Mudkip

Cool.


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