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acrof January 10th, 2007 9:30 AM

Bad graphics? Bad construction? Bad game?
 
I think so!
I was watching some battles on youtube, and I noticed something disturbing...

*Although some pokemons looks fine (Charizard, Venusaur), others are COMPLETELY SQUARE !(Ledyan, Arcanine) Exectaly those from Stadium!

*In a battle with a Charizard against a Crobat, if u look to the background, there´s a fountain with a blue pokeball over it. That pokeball is a hexagon!
In other battles u can notice the same bad construction...

*They use the cries from GameBoy, not like in Stadium 2, where they use remakes.

*There´s no storage system (Box system, item storage, etc)

*The arena destruction (showed in the first video preview) was removed.

*There´s no story mode (although XD and colosseum´s story line is crap)

*Although u can dress up your trainer, you can´t change the face or the hair cut or color of your trainer. And games like the first "The Sims" can do it very well...

I hope the next Pokemon release they change these details...
It´s not as good as I spected...
What do you think?

Master Kwesi Nkromah January 10th, 2007 12:49 PM

After i read your post i went over to youtube and checked out a couple of their battle revolution videos... and dude, they suck. maybe i was looking at the wrong videos but it's damn-near impossible to judge the quality of the game when the quality of the videos are so poor.

neway, i think the Pokemon company is stuck in an age-range trap. the gameplay, storyline and perhaps even attention to detail are all geared to people a lot younger. I think what they are trying to do is keep the game play relatively simple so little kiddies can grasp "complex" concepts quickly, and nearly identical to the game play of the original gameboy titles.

the truly young aren't going to be any more impressed if they're Pokemon games are in HD, they just want to see the super cool effects when their Pokemon attacks. they aren't as interested in a decent story line, they just want to see Pokemon battle. and that's what we get in these 64bit+ games. the story never really changes but the special effects from attacks get better-looking every time.

eh In my opinion, this has never worked for Nintendo... ever.. ever... ever... i XD was a good attempt at something new but i think they should really try to make a version of pokemon for the wii that is both marketable to kids in grades 8 - 11 and enjoyable to children in grades 4 - 7.. i would like to see a super smash bros version of pokemon... pure pokemon butt-kick.. i think that would be a smash hit.

RSL January 10th, 2007 2:22 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2351335)
I think so!
I was watching some battles on youtube, and I noticed something disturbing...

*Although some pokemons looks fine (Charizard, Venusaur), others are COMPLETELY SQUARE !(Ledyan, Arcanine) Exectaly those from Stadium!

*In a battle with a Charizard against a Crobat, if u look to the background, there´s a fountain with a blue pokeball over it. That pokeball is a hexagon!
In other battles u can notice the same bad construction...

*They use the voices from GameBoy, not like in Stadium 2, where they use remakes.

*The pokeball disapears in the trainer´s hand when the Pokemon is defeated.

*There´s no storage system

*There´s no story mode (although XD and colosseum´s story line is crap)

*Although u can dress up your trainer, you can´t change the face or the hair cut or color of your trainer. And games like the first "The Sims" can do it very well...

I hope the next Pokemon release they change these details...
It´s not as good as I spected...
What do you think?

Spoiler:
Every time someone makes a post like that, baby Jesus cries. Do you know that? Get on drugs or off of them before you post this type of crud, okay?


Either you're an elitist or a pessimist but this game is FREAKIN' AWESOME!
(The Wii is a 256-bit system, whilst the GCN is 128.)

Master Gohan January 10th, 2007 4:47 PM

If you want some good quality videos to judge from, go over to IGN.com. They have fairly good quality. Much better than YouTube.

Red1530 January 10th, 2007 4:58 PM

I am tired of people saying their is no storage system in the game. According to Serebii their is.
Source: http://www.serebii.net/archive/November-2006.shtml

acrof January 11th, 2007 5:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RaikouSpecialLover (Post 2351532)
Spoiler:
Every time someone makes a post like that, baby Jesus cries. Do you know that? Get on drugs or off of them before you post this type of crud, okay?


Either you're an elitist or a pessimist but this game is FREAKIN' AWESOME!
(The Wii is a 256-bit system, whilst the GCN is 128.)

None of them.

(PS: since Dreamcast, there´s no "bits" concept.)

Sure, there´re great features on this games like the Wi-fi battle mode.
The attacks are really amazing, I loved Blast Burn, Surf and Solar Bean;)
For the first time in the pokemon history, u can dress yourself.
The pokemons touch eachother, etc.

I like pokemon since 1997, and now I´m 16 years old, I think Nintendo don´t get the idea:
Pokemon fans are getting older...
I would love to see some kick ass features, the pokemon smash bros idea is great!:cool:

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the truly young aren't going to be any more impressed if they're Pokemon games are in HD
YES THEY WILL...
My 9 years old little bro said so.
The graphics could be better, he hated when I showed the BR´s Arcanine...
He loves that pokemon, and the Arcanine was exactaly the same from STADIUM 1.

These graphics are almost the same found on PS2, and The pokemon company is fu#%@%[email protected] rich, and can pay for better 3D modelers.

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I am tired of people saying their is no storage system in the game. According to Serebii their is.
No THERE ISN´t.
You can save your 6 pokemon party in the controller, BUT you can´t store them like in Ruby´s box system, get it?

Mattie.Murder™ January 11th, 2007 6:57 AM

I think the graphics are great, but as ive said all along graphics dont make a game, its gameplay that does it, thats nintendos aim...although the wii graphics are brilliant its focusing more on gamplay wich is why i admire them, unlike microsoft or sony focusing there games on ''older'' gamers, and i cant wait for PBR to come out over here in the uk....But everyone has there opinion so i cant really argue...

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ January 11th, 2007 6:04 PM

I like the graphics alot, I only watch one video and that was with Yukimenoko battling, they made her look awesome in the game

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

acrof January 11th, 2007 6:26 PM

Just like I said, some look awesome, others look really bad.
I really hated when I saw my darling Arcanine (I love fire types) just like the ones from stadium, but seems that the newest generation of pokemons has perfect graphics, the ones from Ruby generation are nearly the same from XD, and most of the first pokemons are just the same found on N64´s games.

Looks like the arena isn´t affected by attacks anymore...
I could only see this feature in first released teaser for the game... (the one with Deoxys ,Groudon, pikachu and Wailord)

The graphics are the same found on Dreamcast (1999) in my opinion, not because of poor quality of videos (because I saw them on IGN), but because the graphics of the game are really poor.

I hope they change these problems in the next release for Wii.

Red1530 January 11th, 2007 6:42 PM

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No THERE ISN´t.
You can save your 6 pokemon party in the controller, BUT you can´t store them like in Ruby´s box system, get it?
That to me is a storage system.

chrome_angel January 11th, 2007 10:56 PM

well ive just looked up some videos on some websites, the graphics are pretty darn good. very great detail and quality of the lighting in battle revolution.man i cannot wait for it to come out.

Forest Grovyle January 12th, 2007 5:17 AM

I think the graphics are fine, the new Pokémon look plain awesome and the old ones have been made a lot smoother and totally remodelled in some cases.

I enjoyed Stadium - the mini-games were nice but the main reason I played it was for the challenge of battling through the cups. I'm glad that's the sort of thing I'll be able to do here as I always loved that! Yeah, mini-games would have been nice but they're not a selling point for me.

--FG

Law07 January 12th, 2007 11:33 AM

I think yes that there should be better graphics for Wii, the graphics arent like realistic (I know its Pokemon) but it looks too outdated, looks too shoddy. I think they should really do it like Final Fantasy graphics in the players.

And yes they should make the games more complicated for the old Pokemon gamers that were there when Blue came out!

Scales January 12th, 2007 3:20 PM

I was going to buy Battle revolution. But Now that I see all this stuff I doubt I will

acrof January 12th, 2007 4:14 PM

Although i noticed these details, I´m still going to buy a Wii and a BR game.
Pokemon battles are my favorite kind of game and, u see, I can play with people around the world with it.;)
I wonderif the chat function from diamond & pearl still alive in this game?

Forci Stikane January 15th, 2007 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2352890)
The graphics are the same found on Dreamcast (1999) in my opinion

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Originally Posted by acrof
These graphics are almost the same found on PS2

...The two are different. Which is it?

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Originally Posted by acrof
I think so!
I was watching some battles on youtube, and I noticed something disturbing...

*Although some pokemons looks fine (Charizard, Venusaur), others are COMPLETELY SQUARE !(Ledyan, Arcanine) Exectaly those from Stadium!

......Which models are you looking at? I don't see that at all.

*In a battle with a Charizard against a Crobat, if u look to the background, there´s a fountain with a blue pokeball over it. That pokeball is a hexagon!
In other battles u can notice the same bad construction...

That's actually probably intended. They did a similar thing in the GCN games.

*They use the voices from GameBoy, not like in Stadium 2, where they use remakes.

"voices from GameBoy"?? SINCE WHEN DID THE GB GAMES HAVE VOICES!!!???????

*The pokeball disapears in the trainer´s hand when the Pokemon is defeated.

...Uh...define "disapears"

*There´s no storage system

I refer to Red1530.

*There´s no story mode (although XD and colosseum´s story line is crap)

Then why complain?

*Although u can dress up your trainer, you can´t change the face or the hair cut or color of your trainer. And games like the first "The Sims" can do it very well...

I've seen a bunch of different haircuts and faces for the trainers. Again, what videos are you watching?

(I'm getting a wave of deja vu...in a bad way)

Renagadez January 15th, 2007 5:29 PM

someoen post a link to this video,so more of us could judge

Cornicapus January 15th, 2007 8:13 PM

Well since i never owned any of the pokemon console games (but i played stadium at my friends place it rocked my sox!,metaphorically speaking) i gotta say the pokemon models are darn good! especially pikachu. and there are storage systems! i trust serebii.net 100% but were gonna have to wait until it comes out.

acrof January 16th, 2007 5:03 AM

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Originally Posted by acrof
The graphics are the same found on Dreamcast (1999) in my opinion

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Originally Posted by acrof
These graphics are almost the same found on PS2

...The two are different. Which is it?


Quote:
Originally Posted by acrof
I think so!
I was watching some battles on youtube, and I noticed something disturbing...

*Although some pokemons looks fine (Charizard, Venusaur), others are COMPLETELY SQUARE !(Ledyan, Arcanine) Exectaly those from Stadium!

......Which models are you looking at? I don't see that at all.

*In a battle with a Charizard against a Crobat, if u look to the background, there´s a fountain with a blue pokeball over it. That pokeball is a hexagon!
In other battles u can notice the same bad construction...

That's actually probably intended. They did a similar thing in the GCN games.

*They use the voices from GameBoy, not like in Stadium 2, where they use remakes.

"voices from GameBoy"?? SINCE WHEN DID THE GB GAMES HAVE VOICES!!!???????
OK, not voices. Cries of the pokemons.:D

*The pokeball disapears in the trainer´s hand when the Pokemon is defeated.

...Uh...define "disapears"
What about I SHOW you?

*There´s no storage system

I refer to Red1530.
So you can save like in GBA games???? (Box system, item storage)

*There´s no story mode (although XD and colosseum´s story line is crap)

Then why complain?
Because that would make a better game
*Although u can dress up your trainer, you can´t change the face or the hair cut or color of your trainer. And games like the first "The Sims" can do it very well...

I've seen a bunch of different haircuts and faces for the trainers. Again, what videos are you watching?Those from IGN and Youtube

(I'm getting a wave of deja vu...in a bad way)
Here is the link for the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFPWmM0vqws

Here are pics from this video, showing some graphic problems:
The pokesquare:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/acrof/pokball.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/acrof/1.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/acrof/2.jpg

Forci Stikane January 16th, 2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2358031)

......You're complaining about that!?? 0.0;;;

Geez...and, I said it before: THEY MADE THE POKEBALL LIKE THAT ON PURPOSE.

And, again, if you didn't like the storyline from XD & Colosseum, then why would you want it in PBR? How would that make it "a better game"?

Law07 January 16th, 2007 10:20 AM

The pokeball disappearing I thought was on earlier versions of videos.

Apparantly that was just a beta glitch and is no more the case.

acrof January 16th, 2007 11:00 AM

ON PURPOSE???????
No, no.... Lazy programers
Nintendo, and Gamefreak need to stay longer in front of their computers making better Pokemon games, and using at last 70% of Wii´s power!
A GameCube can run this kind of game. Make pokemon and Wii a worth-a-try, for new gamers.

And a GOOD story line would make a better game, get it?

No, the pokeball´s glitch stills there, on the present game.
Some people bought it and have already played while recording with a camera.
These people created videos on youtube, generaly named Pokemon Battle Revolution gameplay 1,2,3...............
And this glitch was there.

I wanted to see a PS3 crusher game, using all features a Wii can offer. (I know a PS3 have more power, but I´m talking about inovation)
But all I and everyone get is a feature-less game.
Being a pokemon fan since 1997 (10 years!), I want pokemon to have a bright future, but not with that kind of crap game.
Belive it or not I hate Sony and M$, and I´m saying that´s a crap game based on games FROM NINTENDO not from PS2 or XBOX or whatever.

RSL January 16th, 2007 2:31 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2358227)
ON PURPOSE???????
No, no.... Lazy programers
Nintendo, and Gamefreak need to stay longer in front of their computers making better Pokemon games, and using at last 70% of Wii´s power!
A GameCube can run this kind of game. Make pokemon and Wii a worth-a-try, for new gamers.

And a GOOD story line would make a better game, get it?

No, the pokeball´s glitch stills there, on the present game.
Some people bought it and have already played while recording with a camera.
These people created videos on youtube, generaly named Pokemon Battle Revolution gameplay 1,2,3...............
And this glitch was there.

I wanted to see a PS3 crusher game, using all features a Wii can offer. (I know a PS3 have more power, but I´m talking about inovation)
But all I and everyone get is a feature-less game.
Being a pokemon fan since 1997 (10 years!), I want pokemon to have a bright future, but not with that kind of crap game.
Belive it or not I hate Sony and M$, and I´m saying that´s a crap game based on games FROM NINTENDO not from PS2 or XBOX or whatever.

I think the Poke Balls were made that way on purpose in that arena.
And the graphics look state-of-the-art to me. Besides, I really do not see ANY evidence whatsoever that since Colo they were using N64 models. They just round off the sharp corners.

acrof January 17th, 2007 3:58 AM

And use the same models from the previous games is not good thing.
Imagine they using the same models from Super Mario World (for SNES) on Super Mario Galaxy for Wii ?;)

And they remade some pokemons, Charizard looks like real compared to Stadium version
But most of the pokemons were just the same (with no round ups) from the previous versions... They use light effects to make them look round, but that´s not the case on Charizard for example.

My friend bought a Wii yesterday, with it, he got a magazine showing next releases for the console, and he said Pokemon Battle Revolution was on that magazine and had the SAME graphics of Pokemon Colosseum, with a very few changes.
He also said that on a computer screen the game looks amazing, but in a HD print it looks very bad.

U can notice these sharp corners when the game use a zoom on the arena and battlers.
Look at the pictures I took from the video, when there´s a zoom on the pokeball it looks more like a cube than a ball(picture 1), but when the camera is far from it(picture 2 and 3) the pokeball looks amazing.
The same happens with the trainers and the pokemons.

Cornicapus January 17th, 2007 6:23 PM

[QUOTE=acrof;2358866]And use the same models from the previous games is not good thing.
Imagine they using the same models from Super Mario World (for SNES) on Super Mario Galaxy for Wii ?;) [QUOTE]

You know how long it would take to Re-model 386 pokemon? i like the decision they made just to fix the WORST ones and just leave the ok ones alone so they could work on the game and make a earlier release date.

acrof January 18th, 2007 4:25 AM

That´s true...
But the Pokemon Company is rich, veeeeeeeeeeery rich, and can pay for more and better
3D modelers. Besides it´s not a game full of arenas and places, so it should be more easy to make than a normal RPG like Final Fantasy.

DiamondDust January 18th, 2007 1:01 PM

I'm still gonna buy it though, even if it is crap.
Basically it was intended for those people like older people who still believed that pokemon was real, and making stuff like stories about how that person saw a Linoone, he mistook it for a skunk or something.

I got the other 2 (Xd and Colluseium (mispelt coll...)). It couldn't finish it, tooooo bored!

jmb_jolteon January 19th, 2007 2:36 AM

i think its supposed to be different and i dont like how its like stadium and i think it should have a storyline it would be more interesting and more people would buy it its the same as stadium but with new pokemon so its pretty lame

thats a good idea about a smash bros version it would be better than dis one and i love super smash bros

jmb_jolteon January 19th, 2007 4:37 PM

[QUOTE=Cornicapus;2359598][QUOTE=acrof;2358866]And use the same models from the previous games is not good thing.
Imagine they using the same models from Super Mario World (for SNES) on Super Mario Galaxy for Wii ?;)
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You know how long it would take to Re-model 386 pokemon? i like the decision they made just to fix the WORST ones and just leave the ok ones alone so they could work on the game and make a earlier release date.
hey i agree 2 if they remodeled them all whed have to wait like another year and by then people would have lost interest in it

acrof January 19th, 2007 4:51 PM

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Avoid quoting long posts, please. Also, don't double post - one post, edited to address another person, is enough.
OK, sorry for that...
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i dont like how its like stadium and i think it should have a storyline
A good storyline this time, because the previous versions are just crap.

Features BR should have:

*Ruby, Sapphire, Fire Red, Leaf Green, Emerald compatibility
*Box system, Item storage, etc.
*Something like a stadium´s GB tower
*Full rounded graphics
*Full re-modeled pokemons
*Story mode (with a good story line)
*Chat function, using a DS as a microphone
*MMORPG mode (massive multi player on-line RPG mode) that would be AMAZING !:cool:

That´s a lot, huh? But a double layered DVD can solve this problem :D
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if they remodeled them all whed have to wait like another year and by then people would have lost interest in it
I would wait for 3 years to see a game like I said in this same topic. Wait longer to see a better game is not a bad idea to me.

RSL January 20th, 2007 10:21 AM

Actually, PBR is compatible with R/S/E/FR/LG. Just have the GBA game in the DS slot.

acrof January 20th, 2007 2:08 PM

That´s getting interesting!
But can u battle as Brendam, May, Red, etc? Or just those trainers from PBR?

RSL January 21st, 2007 9:49 AM

Yes you can, as seen from the very first PBR video.

acrof January 21st, 2007 12:03 PM

But I don´t see this feature in other videos...
Where did u found that information?

RSL January 22nd, 2007 7:45 AM

In this thread: http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=75860

Pokequester January 22nd, 2007 10:44 AM

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Ummmm......this isn't as bad as you think.

Hayate January 22nd, 2007 11:28 AM

Ok, you try to prevent me from buying it 0.0? J/k, I still like the game heaps, but don't forget youtube videos suck in general, I think you should try a demo or something to get an idea what the game is like..In any case, I'll buy it!

Kiyoshikane January 24th, 2007 1:06 AM

YOUTUBE = death

Don't trust the Youtube, for it shall betray you the most.
Don't love the Youtube, for it has no compassion.
Don't use the Youtube, for it is merely using you.
Don't watch the Youtube, because the quality sucks.

THE FOUR LAWS OF YOUTUBE!

Anyways, even if Pokemon Company was rich, do you know how hard it is just to model 3D characters and do all these features? They even listen to our complaints and build on those problems (although they haven't made a G/S/C remake :( ). Also, Nintendo isn't trying to focus on graphics, they're trying to focus on gameplay. Therefore, Wii graphics look a bit similar to GC graphics, but nobody (should) care.

Plus, DL DVDs cost some money for Nintendo, even though it may not seem like much to us. :(

Hopefully they don't mess up and produce some sort of crap like Michael's eyeballs in Pokemon XD. That title alone deserves a laugh. It even has a laugh in it, unless you like to call it Xtra-Dimension :(

Who knows, Pokemon Diamond might even unlock a new Pokemon from Pokemon Battle Revolution, or vice versa (totally off the point, but possibility)

... The construction isn't that bad either.

[/endrant]

Hayate January 24th, 2007 8:50 AM

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YOUTUBE = death

Don't trust the Youtube, for it shall betray you the most.
Don't love the Youtube, for it has no compassion.
Don't use the Youtube, for it is merely using you.
Don't watch the Youtube, because the quality sucks.

THE FOUR LAWS OF YOUTUBE!
xD That is among the funiest things I've ever seen.

But you know, no single game is perfect and will never be. I'm sure we all agree BR has better graphics design and such then Colosseum/XD based on trustable pictures we've seen..even if the graphics suck I will buy it.

*Prepares an angry mob for the first person who's gonna say "BR sucks"*

acrof January 24th, 2007 9:06 AM

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Nintendo isn't trying to focus on graphics, they're trying to focus on gameplay. Therefore, Wii graphics look a bit similar to GC graphics, but nobody (should) care.
I know Nintendo focus on gameplay, but I´m talking about PBR...
Do you really think Game Freak is focusing on game play? Or graphics? Or whatever?
No, they aren´t. They aren´t even focusing in us ! Because if they did, they would listen to our ideas, our stories, pay attention in our characters, pokemons, and EVERYTHING!
I was reading the complains about the 4th generation of pokemons, and they are right, most of the new pokemons looks like a 4 years old kid drawn!

Interesting to notice that I saw MOST OF THE VIDEOS FROM IGN, not from youtube.

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do all these features?
Wich features???????????
That´s a Stadium with 2 or 3 new features! (Wi-fi battles, wireless connection with a DS, and customing trainers) what else?
Do they even use the most inovative part of the Wii? The wii-mote is only to select options in menus! It should be used to trow a pokeball, or something like that.
This game is CRAP and don´t use 40 % of a Wii to run it.

I saw the entire topic, searching for evidences of the compatibility PBR/GBA, but I found only IDEIAS, not information from Nintendo.

I´m sorry guys but I still with the same opinion: PBR is crap.

**Prepares an blind mob for one of the people who´s going to say "BR is awesome"**

Hayate January 24th, 2007 10:53 AM

Release your stolen-mob-thingy from me again me, I still find BR awesome and I'm sure I'm not the only one. If you don't like BR open a topic and go complaining there, dunno if the mods and the BR loving population will accept it. Still, what you say is YOUR opinion, I'm fine with it if you don't like BR but please, don't say such things in a PBR part of the community. I'm gonna buy BR and will say it straight in your face: BATTLE REVOLUTION IS AN AWESOME GAME. Can't deal with my opinion? Then go sit poorly in a corner, forgotton and ask yourself twice if the game REALLY is that bad, I dunno if you've played it yourself first.

acrof January 24th, 2007 11:25 AM

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If you don't like BR open a topic and go complaining there
I did it, you are posting on it!:knockedou
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I'm gonna buy BR
Me too;)
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Can't deal with my opinion?
My god!
I accepted every single opinion here! Including yours!
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Then go sit poorly in a corner, forgotton and ask yourself twice if the game REALLY is that bad, I dunno if you've played it yourself first.
:tired: The one who isn´t accepting a opinion IS YOU !
If you think PBR is awesome, open your own topic, INSTEAD OF SPOILING MINE!
Go see a doctor, my friend, you are sick.

Hayate January 24th, 2007 11:53 AM

Geez, you are such a nice person to have a slightly argument with ^^"..I've always learned to stay away from those people acting like crap so I will.

Just to keep on-topic, BR has no bad construction

acrof January 24th, 2007 12:57 PM

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I've always learned to stay away from those people acting like crap
:laugh:
So........
Stay away from yourself!
(remember you provoked first, but we still can be friends)
C ya!:)

Forci Stikane January 24th, 2007 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Me
(I'm getting a wave of deja vu...in a bad way)

I'm certain now......it's much clearer.

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Originally Posted by acrof
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I'm gonna buy BR
Me too

Okay, your credibility just dropped to zero. If you're going to buy the game, then why did you make this thread? And why do you keep complaining about it??

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Originally Posted by acrof
So........
Stay away from yourself!
(remember you provoked first

...YOU made this thread, and your first post is sheer provoking...your admitting to going to buy the game is the proof.

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Originally Posted by acrof
I´m sorry guys but I still with the same opinion: PBR is crap.

THEN WHY ARE YOU BUYING IT!!!!!?????????

Hadim Sinan Pasha January 24th, 2007 5:27 PM

I agree with Ichapokemr. Why buy a game that you're completely dissing. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you hate the world because it isn't perfect than you can do either of two things.
1- Believe that the world is imperfectable
OR
2- Go commit suicide or something.

Actually another thing
3-Make you rown pokemon game for the whole world to see. Send it to Nintendo/Game Freak and see what they think about it.


Pokemon Battle Revvolution is

TTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEE BBBBEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSTTTTTT

acrof January 25th, 2007 5:18 AM

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THEN WHY ARE YOU BUYING IT!!!!!?????????
Arf........
FOR THE 50TH TIME: BECAUSE I LIKE POKEMON BATTLES , AND THAT GAME IS BETTER THAN A NET BATTLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GE IT????????????????????????????????????????????
AND, I´M STILL A FAN OF POKEMON, WHATEVER HAPPENS! EVEN IF "THEIR MOST PERFECT GAME" IS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I agree with Ichapokemr. Why buy a game that you're completely dissing. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you hate the world because it isn't perfect than you can do either of two things.
1- Believe that the world is imperfectable
1- I belive, but I can´t belive that the Pokemon Company ( wich is $ rich $ ) made a game
with Game Cube Graphics, Low creativity , with poor features, etc.............................
But I´m still going to buy it because it´s POKEMON, and I love it!
AND I´m completely sure you guys think that way, you know that PBR don´t use the full power of the Wii but you are still going to buy it. Why? Because it´s Pokemon! Don´t you agree with me?
2- don´t want me to answer this.
3- SURE! Give me the money!
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Pokemon Battle Revvolution is
TTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEE BBBBEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSTTTTTT
OK I agree. Is the best that pokemon get so far, but I just think it should be better for
this new generation of games.
Pokemon is losing fans because of the low creativity of their owners. Don´t belive?
If you look at the selling list of pokemon games you will see something like this:

Pokemon red/blue/yellow: sold about 11.000.000 of copies:shocked:
Pokemon gold/Silver/Crystal: sold about 7.000.000 of copies:)
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald sold about 4.000.000 of copies:\
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl will sell about (do the math):(

The same happens to stadium to Colosseum, to XD, and probally will happen with PBR
Let´s wait to see.

Serebii January 25th, 2007 2:12 PM

DP has already sold around 3 million in Japan alone. Therefore your theory fails

As for Gamecube Graphics. I have experienced PBR's graphics and they are better than cube graphics, although really you cannot tell with Youtube videos...thats why a Wii with a Component Cable is required. Plus don't forget the Wii isn't that much more powerful than a Gamecube so the graphics cannot be completely better. You will see however...this game is GORGEOUS.

This game is about battling, it doesn't need an RPG. Stadium didnt have an RPG and its great. This is just a new stadium, and it has some of the most challenging battles you will ever come across so why don't you play it and actually see it for yourself before you continue going on moaning about it.

Don't forget. Youtube Quality = RUBBISH. It's not a valid way of determining things

acrof January 25th, 2007 3:07 PM

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DP has already sold around 3 million in Japan alone. Therefore your theory fails
He he , I forgot about the wi-fi battles!:embarrass
They do miracles.:laugh:

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Plus don't forget the Wii isn't that much more powerful than a Gamecube
Yes it is! About 3 times more powerfull!
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so the graphics cannot be completely better.
Yes they cannot be be completely better, but they can be a little better.;)
If you really played it, that vanishing pokeball glitch stills there? I´m a bit curious now...

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This game is about battling, it doesn't need an RPG
But pokemon is based on an RPG! Why can´t they make an Story mode, even a Colosseum crap kind?:P

I´m satisfied with D/P, it´s great, and it´s wi-fi battles make it better.
(waiting it´s english version to battle you guys!:cool: )

But making another Stadium didn´t sound good to me, and for other kind of gamers.:\

OK then. Let´s wait until I play it, then we can just stop with this thread, I´m getting tired of trying to defend my cause.:cross-eye :D

Serebii January 25th, 2007 3:18 PM

If they made a story mode...like a Crap Colosseum Kind as you put it...you'ld be moaning about it and say "Why couldnt they go back to the roots of Stadium" guaranteed

top8inU.S.A. January 25th, 2007 3:26 PM

I'm glad shadow pokemon are out and Stadium-like games are in.

^Joe? Never knew you were here!

Kiyoshikane January 25th, 2007 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Serebii (Post 2367188)
If they made a story mode...like a Crap Colosseum Kind as you put it...you'ld be moaning about it and say "Why couldnt they go back to the roots of Stadium" guaranteed

Unless they made some overly complicated plot involving you becoming a Poke...

...wait, that's screwed up in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon :(

Still, I didn't mind the stupid plots of Pokemon Colloseum and Pokemon XD, which looks like a laughing turd and a silly man with markers on his face, but the one thing I hope they remove is this : the annoying girl who follows you around and asks stupid questions :(

I haven't played the game yet, so I hope that GameFreak doesn't do anything stupid with Pokemon Battle Revolution (in the English version) and add some kind of "unique" feature that crashes your Wii, your TV, your game, and your life :(

Still, this thread may become prone to flaming wars, so if that ever happens...

Well, we all must respect our opinions, and even if acrof doesn't like it and the rest of us do, we all have to accept that :D

Or die a painful death :( You decide.

Forci Stikane January 27th, 2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2366910)
Arf........
FOR THE 50TH TIME: BECAUSE I LIKE POKEMON BATTLES , AND THAT GAME IS BETTER THAN A NET BATTLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GE IT????????????????????????????????????????????

Yeah, you just admitted that the game could be worse.

AND, I´M STILL A FAN OF POKEMON, WHATEVER HAPPENS! EVEN IF "THEIR MOST PERFECT GAME" IS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1- I belive, but I can´t belive that the Pokemon Company ( wich is $ rich $ ) made a game
with Game Cube Graphics, Low creativity , with poor features, etc.............................
But I´m still going to buy it because it´s POKEMON, and I love it!
AND I´m completely sure you guys think that way, you know that PBR don´t use the full power of the Wii but you are still going to buy it. Why? Because it´s Pokemon! Don´t you agree with me?

...Okay, but just because it's a Pokemon game doesn't mean it's an automatic buy. I didn't even TOUCH Dash or Trozei because they didn't look like good games. So, don't use that as an excuse.

Mobile Tsk January 29th, 2007 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2358866)
And use the same models from the previous games is not good thing.
Imagine they using the same models from Super Mario World (for SNES) on Super Mario Galaxy for Wii ?;)

And they remade some pokemons, Charizard looks like real compared to Stadium version
But most of the pokemons were just the same (with no round ups) from the previous versions... They use light effects to make them look round, but that´s not the case on Charizard for example.

My friend bought a Wii yesterday, with it, he got a magazine showing next releases for the console, and he said Pokemon Battle Revolution was on that magazine and had the SAME graphics of Pokemon Colosseum, with a very few changes.
He also said that on a computer screen the game looks amazing, but in a HD print it looks very bad.

U can notice these sharp corners when the game use a zoom on the arena and battlers.
Look at the pictures I took from the video, when there´s a zoom on the pokeball it looks more like a cube than a ball(picture 1), but when the camera is far from it(picture 2 and 3) the pokeball looks amazing.
The same happens with the trainers and the pokemons.

OK, If you don't want the game, then why did you post here? And btw, Who gives a frickin crap about 'cubey' Pokeballs
Also, I liked Colleseum's Storyline:P

homelesscarl January 31st, 2007 8:12 PM

Well, I've seen stuff from this game, and it looks awsome to me. I can't wait for it to get here already!

acrof February 4th, 2007 12:37 PM

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Yeah, you just admitted that the game could be worse.
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...Okay, but just because it's a Pokemon game doesn't mean it's an automatic buy
I know, but , why can´t you guys accept a opinion?
It´s a worth a try because uses the wi-fi connection, and it´s bad because (read the first post)
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I didn't even TOUCH Dash or Trozei because they didn't look like good games. So, don't use that as an excuse.
Neither do I.
You are using it as an excuse, not me. I´m going to buy because of the wi-fi battles, and ONLY because of that, I wrote it before I explained why we still buy Pokemon games.

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OK, If you don't want the game, then why did you post here?
For the 51th time: BECAUSE I LIKE POKEMON BATTLES.

Forci Stikane February 4th, 2007 4:07 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2374763)
I know, but , why can´t you guys accept a opinion?

......Because you posted it like it was fact. You didn't say "I think this is a bad game", you said

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Originally Posted by acrof
This game is CRAP and don´t use 40 % of a Wii to run it.


acrof February 6th, 2007 7:01 AM

X( ....
That´s a opinon, a way to see the game.
I stay with mine.
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You didn't say "I think this is a bad game"
Only because I didn´t say in these words, that don´t mean it wasn´t a opinion.

Fox♠ February 6th, 2007 2:26 PM

Only a fool judges a game by graphics alone.

Don't make these remarks till you play the game.

acrof February 6th, 2007 3:19 PM

I´m not judging this game only because of it´s graphics, but because of a lot of things.
If I were looking only for graphics, I would sell my GBC, my N64, my SNES, etc.:)
I still have them, and I like them because of the originality, and in my experience in playing
and finishing about 20 RPGs in 9 kinds of consoles, I´m saying this game is not that good
as you may think, it´s simple as that.

Have you ever stopped to understand the story line of ANY pokémon RPG?
Defeat team generic, beat the E4 and become the champ, WOW!!!!!!!! What a great history!!:D

And now they are trying to make a remodeled Stadium? Again? A 1999´s game with rounded graphics!
Where´s the story, where are the graphics, WHERE is the originality pokémon had when it´was released in Pokemon green?
Now we get just "remodeled ideas" from Game Freak.

Kiyoshikane February 6th, 2007 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2377145)
If I were looking only for graphics, I would sell my GBC, my N64, my SNES, etc.:)

Hold it! (in the obvious style of Phoenix Wright games, which are surprisingly funny :D) Do you still play those systems? I have a N64 and a SNES, but I don't use them anymore. How can you prove that you still do :D

Wait... loading takes awhile...

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2377145)
Have you ever stopped to understand the story line of ANY pokémon RPG?
Defeat team generic, beat the E4 and become the champ, WOW!!!!!!!! What a great history!!:D

OH LOL

Pokemon games have some originality to them, as you'll see in the sidequests. Plus, it's fun to whoop the Gym's butts all day long :D

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2377145)
And now they are trying to make a remodeled Stadium? Again? A 1999´s game with rounded graphics!
Where´s the story, where are the graphics, WHERE is the originality pokémon had when it´was released in Pokemon green?
Now we get just "remodeled ideas" from Game Freak.

OH NO YOU DIDN'T JUST SAY POKEMON GREEN :(

Still, you're complaining about the graphics, which while you may personally care about, I feel if you're obsessed with the graphics, don't buy the game, or any Pokemon game for that matter, because the graphics suck royally :O

And the story wasn't that bad : it needed more texture, or whatever they put on hot dogs these days. Also, how is it a 1999 game? So what if they remake it again, for people to enjoy? You needed the chance to see Pokemon go 3D; otherwise all those n00bs would be complaining about OMG WHEERE MY 3DD POKAMON and start the infamous hissy fit which can destroy a world within 25 feet of Uranus.

Also, you can't expect Pokemon to last with originality. Look at "InuYasha". It's basically the same plot over, but it can still be mindless fun.

My point meaning: if you truly dislike the game, that's your own opinion. You may or may not have said that. However, some aspects of the game which you personally do not like: people do like, Nintendo has fixed the problem, or it's meant to be there for a reason.

Oh, blah, I'm finished. Let's keep it simple:

If you don't want the extra space, the chance to play a game for what it is, and a Pokemon game, OK. If you're interested in the game, by all means play it.

[/endrant] OH NOES I FEEL A MIGRAINE :(

Kraka-chan February 7th, 2007 2:31 AM

Well, I saw a few clips and pictures from a games magazine.

Although it was nice to see the Pokemon pummling each other, I'm sure they could have done a lot better, especially where some of the beam attacks and such are concerned.
Doesn't mean I won't be getting the game though. I can't wait to have my very own custom Trainer (probably with a better hat).

acrof February 7th, 2007 10:08 AM

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How can you prove that you still do
Hehe!
I have them and a lot more!
Here is a pic of them:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/acrof/tudo.jpg
Sorry for the bad quality of the picture, I took it with a web cam.

I also have a white a Sega Saturn, a 3DO, a GBA, a Game Cube, and others that are not in the picture!:knockedou

So when I´m saying I dislike/hate PBR it´s because it lacks in originality, not only for graphics!;)

Ultima February 7th, 2007 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2351335)
I think so!
I was watching some battles on youtube, and I noticed something disturbing...

*Although some pokemons looks fine (Charizard, Venusaur), others are COMPLETELY SQUARE !(Ledyan, Arcanine) Exectaly those from Stadium!

*In a battle with a Charizard against a Crobat, if u look to the background, there´s a fountain with a blue pokeball over it. That pokeball is a hexagon!
In other battles u can notice the same bad construction...

*They use the voices from GameBoy, not like in Stadium 2, where they use remakes.

*The pokeball disapears in the trainer´s hand when the Pokemon is defeated.

*There´s no storage system

*There´s no story mode (although XD and colosseum´s story line is crap)

*Although u can dress up your trainer, you can´t change the face or the hair cut or color of your trainer. And games like the first "The Sims" can do it very well...

I hope the next Pokemon release they change these details...
It´s not as good as I spected...
What do you think?

You know the Game is still in development, not all the models are finnished so they will use the models from Pokemon Stadium 2 untill they are finnished.
Its as simple as that, they need to use the models so the game doesn't crash or look like a pokemon is fighting air.

Fox♠ February 7th, 2007 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2377145)
I´m not judging this game only because of it´s graphics, but because of a lot of things.
If I were looking only for graphics, I would sell my GBC, my N64, my SNES, etc.:)
I still have them, and I like them because of the originality, and in my experience in playing
and finishing about 20 RPGs in 9 kinds of consoles, I´m saying this game is not that good
as you may think, it´s simple as that.

Have you ever stopped to understand the story line of ANY pokémon RPG?
Defeat team generic, beat the E4 and become the champ, WOW!!!!!!!! What a great history!!:D

And now they are trying to make a remodeled Stadium? Again? A 1999´s game with rounded graphics!
Where´s the story, where are the graphics, WHERE is the originality pokémon had when it´was released in Pokemon green?
Now we get just "remodeled ideas" from Game Freak.

Pokemon hasn't being original since G/S, so why you're kicking up a fuss now is ludicrous, I saw a video of it today in a store, and it's looking immense, why change the winning formula of stadium? When they tried to do that they made two of the worst gamecube games I've ever played.

Esupio February 7th, 2007 1:34 PM

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Originally Posted by .:Kaku:. (Post 2377846)
Pokemon hasn't being original since G/S, so why you're kicking up a fuss now is ludicrous, I saw a video of it today in a store, and it's looking immense, why change the winning formula of stadium? When they tried to do that they made two of the worst gamecube games I've ever played.

You've never played Aquaman then.


Never a judge a game by Youtube videos, also Kaku is right that pokemon hasn't been original since G/S so you can't really call this game un-original like its the first pokemon game to be un-original.

RSL February 7th, 2007 2:55 PM

Spoiler:
Acrof, please do us a favor and KEEP YOUR FRIGGIN' OPINION TO YOUR FRIGGIN' SELF! The last thing of all people here want is to have people like YOU create... well, you get the idea.


I see what the problem is now. You're neither an elitist or a pessimist. You are simply too picky, just like the vast number of people I know on some distant forums...

PBR is such an excellent game in almost every category; to see someone bash it for the tiniest thing is just... weird IMO.

Kiyoshikane February 7th, 2007 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2377767)
Hehe!
I have them and a lot more!
Here is a pic of them:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/acrof/tudo.jpg
Sorry for the bad quality of the picture, I took it with a web cam.

I also have a white a Sega Saturn, a 3DO, a GBA, a Game Cube, and others that are not in the picture!:knockedou

So when I´m saying I dislike/hate PBR it´s because it lacks in originality, not only for graphics!;)

WRONG ANSWER :D

I meant how do we know you still play them, not how do we know you have them :(

... And no one cares that you have a Sega Saturn. SRSLY. NOW GIVE ME IT :D

And besides, all Pokemon games have lack of originality, but PBN has customizable trainers :D Doesn't that amount to something :D

OK, enough smilies. WHAT I DO WANT TO KNOW, is, do you have a Wii? If not, this whole topic is merely spectaculation, a grave error, and you will have no idea on how awesome the controls can be when used right.

Anyways, see ya next time :D

acrof February 8th, 2007 8:08 AM

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I see what the problem is now. You're neither an elitist or a pessimist. You are simply too picky, just like the vast number of people I know on some distant forums...
What´s your problem?
I´m judging the game NOT YOU.
SO DON´T JUDGE ME.
So if you say I´m picky, what about if I said that your are stupid, or looks like ****.
Would you like that?
And also you said that´s the problem?
Argh!:cross-eye
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I meant how do we know you still play them, not how do we know you have them
That´s impossible! ^^
How can I prove that? XD
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do you have a Wii? If not, this whole topic is merely spectaculation, a grave error, and you will have no idea on how awesome the controls can be when used right.
I know what a Wii is capable of. But in my opinion this game (Pokemon Battle Revolution) don´t use all a Wii can offer, simple as that! ^^

Fox♠ February 8th, 2007 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2378405)
So if you say I´m picky, what about if I said that your are stupid, or looks like ****.
Would you like that?
And also you said that´s the problem?

If you said that you'd be outright flaming him and breaking the rules, which would be a rather silly idea if you want your opinion taken seriously.

pikachulover306 February 8th, 2007 11:34 AM

If you think about it the graphics are ok but I mean it's on the Wii not a PS3 or Xbox360. Maybe if you had a HDTV it might show up better but thats my opinion. I personaly want to get battle revolution so I can destroy people on the internet with my precious pikachu :)

acrof February 8th, 2007 12:31 PM

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If you said that you'd be outright flaming him and breaking the rules
I respect opinions , i respect when people dislikes my ideas, but never, NEVER I would let someone judge my personality. Especially when the person don´t know me correctly.

I try to be as polite as possible, but these things make me furious.
Try to understand, that I don´t like to start any discussion.
And I apologize , RaikouSpecialLover, if I disrespected you with my post.
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which would be a rather silly idea if you want your opinion taken seriously
And who here took my opinion seriously? 2 or 3 members only.
A opinon , no matter whose, should be taken seriously, don´t you think?

Also instead of exploring the real objetive of this topic (what do you think of PBR), many just ignore that and start to say that I´m insane,
say that my ideas about this games are crazy, etc..................
And in the end say the game is amazing, cool,etc.....

And I have to answer, because I´m the one who started this, and because of that people misunderstand me.

RSL February 8th, 2007 3:04 PM

Apology accepted. OK, so I accidently judged you and not your opinion this time; I had a really bad day at school when I posted that, OK?

Anyway, never judge YouTube. Want to know what you SHOULD judge?
http://stage6.divx.com/?cid=divxtopnav
Can't say the graphics look bad now.

(And ever since Colosseum, the old Pogeys NEVER were used fresh from the N64. Look VERY HARD.)

acrof February 8th, 2007 3:36 PM

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I had a really bad day at school when I posted that, OK?
I make mine your words...:laugh:
I also had a hard day at school when I posted that too.:knockedou

furrypaws16 February 8th, 2007 5:40 PM

I understand.

You want a new stadium game, because this just seems to be a repeat. Let me explain something to you.

Pokemon is basically made of three branches. The real games (R/B/Y/G/S/C/R/S, and the list goes on), the stadium games (Stadium, Stadium 2, I'm afrain to put these in, but Colloseum and XD), and those stupid spinoff games (Snap, Trozei, Puzzle League, to many to count =P). The first two branches will remain the exact same, or close to that for as long as Pokemon will be running. Thus, PBR will be close to the exact game as Stadium, just as Pokemon D/P will be very similar to R/G.

Also, many of you are complaining because Pokemon is kiddy, easy, and appeals to the young. The sad truth is, that's all Pokemon was meant to be, and all Pokemon will be. Easy, easy, easy. If you dislike it, find a Pokemon hack that is challenging, or, make a Pokemon hack that is challenging, OR play online. Online battling is as challenging as Nintendo is going to make it, which is actually VERY challenging.

Thank you for your time.

Kiyoshikane February 8th, 2007 7:22 PM

You know what? This topic will be a guaranteed flaming war, if this keeps up. :(

Anyways, in regards to how to prove it, just film it or something. I think some webcam's have video function, or you can get one of those (stupid) video cameras. :P

I get bad days at school. We get whipped, and occasionally, we get expelled because we spelt a word wrong. I hate school. I'm emo * CUT CUT *

Anyways, any further comments on if you have a Wii? :P I'm a pessimist, so I want to know what you think of the controls, if you have ever played a Wii (not trying to insult you; many people have never played a Wii before :O) before. It shall be phun :D

Forci Stikane February 8th, 2007 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiyoshikane (Post 2378145)
WHAT I DO WANT TO KNOW, is, do you have a Wii? If not, this whole topic is merely spectaculation, a grave error, and you will have no idea on how awesome the controls can be when used right.

*slaps self*

I can't believe I didn't think to bring that up...

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Originally Posted by acrof
I know what a Wii is capable of. But in my opinion this game (Pokemon Battle Revolution) don´t use all a Wii can offer, simple as that! ^^

But HAVE YOU USED ONE BEFORE?? You can't truly understand what a game system can do until you use it for yourself. The system specs aren't even a true gauge, believe it or not, as there's a certain.............."spark" about playing it that you don't get by looking at specs.

Volta. February 8th, 2007 9:26 PM

Seriously though, Pokémon Battle Revolution is about the battles, if you want the RPG experience, thats what Diamond and Pearl are for

The graphics are how theyre meant to be, and if you cant live with it, well ... weve already asked why youre buying it already... Graphics arent everything. I mean, look at Pong! It was the great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather of videogames and you know what, it still reigns king.^_^

Oh, and Ultima, the game is finished. Since its completely released in Japan. Now theyre just translating it.

acrof February 9th, 2007 12:47 PM

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But HAVE YOU USED ONE BEFORE??
Of course!
In this same topic (i think is in the first page) I talked about a friend who got a Wii, right?
Well this same friend asked me to teach him how to use it (1- I live in Brazil so we don´t speak english/ 2-my friend is also brazilian, and needed a translator to understand the manual);) To thank me he let me play how many times I wanted!:cool:
I played about 16 times, and my arm is still aching :P
We played Zelda, Wii Sports, and Pokemon Colosseum to test the GameCube compatibility.
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so I want to know what you think of the controls
They are light, very easy to use. But I don´t liked the fact they use two AA batteries, instead of being rechargeable...
The Wii itself is a little heavier than it looks in pictures, but it´really beautifull.^^
Also I liked to watch movies using my aunt´s camera SD card, in the Wii.

You see the console is amazing, and ít don´t need to be a PS3 to have good graphics, if you compare the specs of a Wii and a GameCube, a Wii is almost 3 times more powerfull, and GameCube´s graphics were very good to me! (except for Colosseum and XD, of course!)

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Pokemon is basically made of three branches. The real games (R/B/Y/G/S/C/R/S, and the list goes on), the stadium games (Stadium, Stadium 2, I'm afrain to put these in, but Colloseum and XD), and those stupid spinoff games (Snap, Trozei, Puzzle League, to many to count =P).
No,no
XD and Colosseum are RPGs (WHAT I´M SAYING????????) just like (?????) R/B/Y/G/S/R/S/E/ETC. ^^

Bombsey February 9th, 2007 2:49 PM

Nintendo likes money.

Therefore, making a game which will no doubtly sell millions, no matter how awful it is [*coughthatBattleRevolutionhappenstobecough*], is good in Nintendo's mind.

...OMGZ CARACTUR CUSTEEMIZASHUN HOW ORIGEENAL!!!11111

Fox♠ February 9th, 2007 2:52 PM

Bombsey, character customization is original in the Pokemon franchise. So your post was rather...contradictive to facts.

furrypaws16 February 9th, 2007 6:22 PM

Well, ok, put Colo/XD wherever. You still got the point. Also, we've seen what they've done with the 3D RPGs.

Don't post in pink, it makes my eyes melt. X___X

Also, it's not JUST like it. They dropped a lot, like gym leaders, free roam, and catching pokes (those three pokemon areas in XD aren't really...well, pokemonish). It'd be cool if you could go into catching areas for PBR, but I guess not. Oh well. I'm now, officially out. And when you sign out from a conversation, there is one thing you must do;

Furrypaws16

Kiyoshikane February 9th, 2007 9:37 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2379366)
Of course!
In this same topic (i think is in the first page) I talked about a friend who got a Wii, right?
Well this same friend asked me to teach him how to use it (1- I live in Brazil so we don´t speak english/ 2-my friend is also brazilian, and needed a translator to understand the manual);) To thank me he let me play how many times I wanted!:cool:
I played about 16 times, and my arm is still aching :P
We played Zelda, Wii Sports, and Pokemon Colosseum to test the GameCube compatibility.

Are you some kind of stalker? I have those exact games :(

I got bored playing them, though, so now I'm sitting on my computer, NOT burning any calories :D

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2379366)
They are light, very easy to use. But I don´t liked the fact they use two AA batteries, instead of being rechargeable...
The Wii itself is a little heavier than it looks in pictures, but it´really beautifull.^^
Also I liked to watch movies using my aunt´s camera SD card, in the Wii.

I heard that one third party company, whos name I can't remember, is making a rechargeable dock for the Wii, so once you're finished using it, all you have to do is just place it on the dock and it will recharge :D

Anyways, hopefully pulling on topic now. I've never played Pokemon Battle Colloseum, so I'll wait for the reviews. In the meanwhile, before you do anything else, I recommend you try it first. Maybe see if you can get an imported Japanese Wii or something, and try out the game :P Or just wait until EBGames puts up their Wiis and puts in Pokemon Battle Colloseum. That's my recommended course of action right now, because honestly, who knows what the game is like until you try it, right? For all we know, Pokemon Battle Colloseum may look to suck at first impressions, but we never tried it, so we don't know if it's good or not.

OH NOES I GOT LOGICAL SHOOT ME NOW

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Jim February 10th, 2007 1:06 AM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2351335)
I think so!
I was watching some battles on youtube, and I noticed something disturbing...

*Although some pokemons looks fine (Charizard, Venusaur), others are COMPLETELY SQUARE !(Ledyan, Arcanine) Exectaly those from Stadium!

*In a battle with a Charizard against a Crobat, if u look to the background, there´s a fountain with a blue pokeball over it. That pokeball is a hexagon!
In other battles u can notice the same bad construction...

*They use the voices from GameBoy, not like in Stadium 2, where they use remakes.

*The pokeball disapears in the trainer´s hand when the Pokemon is defeated.

*There´s no storage system

*There´s no story mode (although XD and colosseum´s story line is crap)

*Although u can dress up your trainer, you can´t change the face or the hair cut or color of your trainer. And games like the first "The Sims" can do it very well...

I hope the next Pokemon release they change these details...
It´s not as good as I spected...
What do you think?

If some of the Pokemon are the same as Stadium 1 or 2 that is because Nintendo want to get the game released. It might only be the video of a beta, the game is still unfinished. Anyway, if they spent ages completley 3D Modelling/Re-Modelling Pokemon then you'd only be moaning that the game won't be out until 2009...

Volta. February 10th, 2007 7:25 AM

Guys, the game has already had its full release in Japan. So it is done. Unfortunately, what you see is pretty much what your gonna get, unless the other versions improve over this.

Forci Stikane February 10th, 2007 7:31 AM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2379366)
Of course!
In this same topic (i think is in the first page) I talked about a friend who got a Wii, right?
Well this same friend asked me to teach him how to use it (1- I live in Brazil so we don´t speak english/ 2-my friend is also brazilian, and needed a translator to understand the manual);) To thank me he let me play how many times I wanted!:cool:
I played about 16 times, and my arm is still aching :P
We played Zelda, Wii Sports, and Pokemon Colosseum to test the GameCube compatibility.

They are light, very easy to use. But I don´t liked the fact they use two AA batteries, instead of being rechargeable...
The Wii itself is a little heavier than it looks in pictures, but it´really beautifull.^^
Also I liked to watch movies using my aunt´s camera SD card, in the Wii.

You see the console is amazing, and ít don´t need to be a PS3 to have good graphics, if you compare the specs of a Wii and a GameCube, a Wii is almost 3 times more powerfull, and GameCube´s graphics were very good to me! (except for Colosseum and XD, of course!)

Okay. Y'know, there are a lot of people out there who don't like the system because of the way it looks (a good number of them Sony fanboys, but that's beside the point), but they've never played it yet. You can attest to how fun it actually is once you start playing, right? It's kind of similar here: don't judge a game [system] by its cover, as it might turn out to be a lot more fun than it looks.

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Originally Posted by Kiyoshikane
because honestly, who knows what the game is like until you try it, right? For all we know, Pokemon Battle Colloseum may look to suck at first impressions, but we never tried it, so we don't know if it's good or not.

(Side Note: ...Am I the only one here who actually ENJOYED XD...and was okay with Colosseum??)

Bombsey February 10th, 2007 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by .:Kaku:. (Post 2379467)
Bombsey, character customization is original in the Pokemon franchise. So your post was rather...contradictive to facts.

In other words, the Polkamon franchise can't keep up, and is trying to impress people with out-dated ideas?

acrof February 10th, 2007 1:26 PM

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In other words, the Polkamon franchise can't keep up, and is trying to impress people with out-dated ideas?
Kind of.
Sometime ago I was complaining about the Pokemon Co. being rich and making game with stadium 1 pokemons, etc.

But now I understand that´s not a fault of Pkmn Co.
We fans, in a urge to get a new game, make they do their work in a hurry, and with that
they create a game in 6 months. So the final result is a game that don´t do everything that was spected. I think every single pokémon game suffer from that.

In the end we are the best and the worst part in pokemon games creation.
(We pay them, they get rich. But with that urge to get a gme we make them lose time to develop a really good game, in fact, I belive every game we get is 50% of what they can really do)

Jim February 10th, 2007 1:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratiasu-kun (Post 2380195)
Guys, the game has already had its full release in Japan. So it is done. Unfortunately, what you see is pretty much what your gonna get, unless the other versions improve over this.

Oh yeah, Sorry bout that :D .

pikachulover306 February 10th, 2007 3:38 PM

I still love all the games (even snap, but that was when I was 5 and thought that chocolate milk came from brown cows:laugh:)

Anyway I like the graphics for the Wii I mean they are better than Gamecube and make Gamecube games look better.

Jim February 11th, 2007 1:47 AM

Mmm... Chocolate cow... Anyway I reckon they should of imported the Graphics from XD or Colluseum. Is there RPG on this or is it totally battle like the name suggests?

Bombsey February 11th, 2007 2:57 AM

I've never seen any announcements from the Polkamon Company stating that "the fans want the game to be made fast".

And besides, if they spent longer on a game, wouldn't it satisfy the gamers more?

I think it's more to do with the fact that Polkamon fans lap up whatever's given to them rather than fans making the company rush it.

Jim February 11th, 2007 3:59 AM

Yeah but people do complain when they have to wait a long time or things are delayed.

acrof February 11th, 2007 5:17 AM

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Yeah but people do complain when they have to wait a long time or things are delayed.
Exactaly!
And they know we don´t want to wait ,and release games fast, and with that they can´t
do what´s really necessary.
Quote:

Is there RPG on this or is it totally battle like the name suggests?
No, it´s a giant " not-completely-remodeled" Stadium.

Fox♠ February 11th, 2007 7:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bombsey (Post 2380497)
In other words, the Polkamon franchise can't keep up, and is trying to impress people with out-dated ideas?

To be honest, Pokemon is an out dated idea, yet you still seem to happily be on the forums about Pokemon. Nothing Game Freak does will make Pokemon original, they tried that with the horrible shadow and XD Pokemon

Stick to what they know and they can;t go wrong.

acrof February 11th, 2007 1:01 PM

Actually I think they should improve what they have, but not as slow as they are doing now.
They should call fans to help them. They sure aren´t doing it.

Shadow and XD ideas weren´t good because they were supposed to be stronger or at least cooler than the original ones, but that´s not the case.

They tried it with digimon and they got good results. First because they abandon the childish part of it making it looks cooler, and tried again with a new "older" character
(14 yo instead of a 10 yo boy) in Digimon Savers, also they got new drawers and the anime looks more realistic. Also Diamond & Pearl aren´t alone in DS with a wi-fi RPG
monsters game.There is a "Digimon World DS" now, and it´s wi-fi too.

I don´t think that would fit with Pokemon, but Game Freak should learn 1 or 2 things with them.

You see I´m a open minded person, so I can like something else besides Pokemon, so Digimon do what Pokemom don´t do for me, so please don´t start that:
"OH! YOU LIKE DIGIMON TOO!?
BUT THAT´S THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD, AND YOU ARE STUPID TO LIKE THEM"
thing.

Fox♠ February 11th, 2007 2:16 PM

Since Digimon 2003 on the PS1 there hasn;t being a half decent Digimon game. Digimon is also a completely different concept to pokemon, so really, that's a pointless comparison

acrof February 11th, 2007 4:11 PM

I really think it wasn´t.
Pokemon fans that were there when red,blue/gold,silver first came out, are older now
And those fans (me for example) really hate the childsh part of Pokémon.
Just to compare: When pokemon started on TV here, I was 9 years old and Ash Ketchum was 10, now I´m 16 and Ash is still 11!
You see, a more mature character should take Ash´s place, it´s ridiculous to stay like that!

Also new drawers for the anime would be awesome! Like they did on Knights of the Zodiac
and Digimon Savers for example. The quality in Pokemon animes nowadays is good but could be awesome!

Don´t get me wrong, I´m NOT comparing Digimon and Pokemon, I´m just saying it would be great if they intorduced to pokemon some digimon features.
EX: A full 3D evolution (instead of that sucky flash light), a mature main character in anime, new drawers for the anime, etc.

pikachulover306 February 11th, 2007 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2381462)
I really think it wasn´t.
Pokemon fans that were there when red,blue/gold,silver first came out, are older now
And those fans (me for example) really hate the childsh part of Pokémon.
Just to compare: When pokemon started on TV here, I was 9 years old and Ash Ketchum was 10, now I´m 16 and Ash is still 11!
You see, a more mature character should take Ash´s place, it´s ridiculous to stay like that!

Also new drawers for the anime would be awesome! Like they did on Knights of the Zodiac
and Digimon Savers for example. The quality in Pokemon animes nowadays is good but could be awesome!

Don´t get me wrong, I´m NOT comparing Digimon and Pokemon, I´m just saying it would be great if they intorduced to pokemon some digimon features.
EX: A full 3D evolution (instead of that sucky flash light), a mature main character in anime, new drawers for the anime, etc.

True I was a fan when I was 6, that was when Red and Blue came out and I loved it, but it the thing with Ash you can't really blame them the Anime was made for kids , but then you have the poke fans who still like the show so they keep watching it because you saw it as a child and want to know what happens later on in the story. New drawers would be ok to make it look better. True about the fUll 3D evolutions would be awsome but if you think about the whole digimon thing it would have to be in 3D because if it was like Pokemon it would not remind you of the show. Then again all the Pokemon games were on the GBA/GBC which cannot put out grophics like the digimon games.

Kiyoshikane February 11th, 2007 6:41 PM

Oh wow, Digimon? I don't even remember that thing anymore...

Anyways, taking out the child part in Pokemon would result in massive failure. Pokemon was pretty much made for children, and taking it out would effectively destroy the fanbase they have right now. It would also look like those horrible drawings that were made of those Super Mario Bros. if they were for older guys.

Think about it: Ash with guns? NO.

Anyways, this has well gone over Pokemon Battle Revolution, and into the core of Pokemon, so I'll prob. stay out of this one, and just watch as the ensuing flame war goes on and on.... :D


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