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RileySox July 3rd, 2007 7:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Viksu (Post 2583218)
I hate baseball 8DD
Graphics doens't tell how good is the game, sheesh!

no **** your a girl

and thats exactly what im saying but sometimes its true do you seriously want the red/blue sprite for pikachu in PBR??

Viksu July 3rd, 2007 7:44 PM

YAY xD Retros rulze! I'm wiser than ya, graphics aren't the most inpontart thing.

Chompah :x July 3rd, 2007 7:53 PM

to rileysox: yea i like baseball even though i'm not american!
to bibi: dude go away!

i saw the commercials and the graphics and gameplay look great.

Viksu July 3rd, 2007 7:54 PM

Yes. The graphics are just simply great. What's so bat in 'em? TELL ME! Sheesh.

RileySox July 3rd, 2007 7:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Memphis. (Post 2583258)
to rileysox: yea i like baseball even though i'm not american!
to bibi: dude go away!

i saw the commercials and the graphics and gameplay look great.

for the show? cause yea it is great. but when you play online everytime i play someone after the first pitch it gets disconnected. the server (sportsconnect) really sucks. i want to go complain to them but they wont listen to a 14 year old.

Viksu July 3rd, 2007 7:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RileySox (Post 2583264)
i want to go complain to them but they wont listen to a 14 year old.

Lol, think, does they listen 12 years old, f**king stupid girl?

RileySox July 3rd, 2007 8:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Viksu (Post 2583267)
Lol, think, does they listen 12 years old, f**king stupid girl?

what?? i didnt say that about you

от_Ian July 3rd, 2007 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Viksu (Post 2583218)
I hate baseball 8DD
Graphics doens't tell how good is the game, sheesh!

You're right it doesn't, but when the main two highlights of the game are 3D Battling, Multiplayer sans Friendcodes, then there's a bit of a problem.

Pogiforce-14 July 3rd, 2007 9:16 PM

Your right. Fortunately the game has 3d battling, random online, rare items for DP, completely customizable trainers, additional save files, additional teams within said save files, I mean come on, from friend passes and rental passes alone I have about ten, eleven different teams I can play with. with my friend passes I can feel what my opponents were feeling as they battled me using those very same pokemon.

usami July 3rd, 2007 9:27 PM

bibi don't spam, Viksu don't bypass the damn censor, and RileySox don't curse. Jeez.

Cross July 3rd, 2007 11:42 PM

acrof iz a whiner *slit slit slit*
 
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Originally Posted by RileySox (Post 2583231)
no **** your a girl

Sexist much?
Shut up about baseball now, cuz this isn't a sports thread. And stop insulting Viksu just because she's a girl.

от_Ian July 4th, 2007 12:01 AM

I think girls can't play baseball, because they're girls and I don't need any girl robots getting in my way.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/ragster6466/MegamanBig2.jpg
Also, pokedemons.

Cross July 4th, 2007 12:23 AM

What the hell is this now? Official National Baseball League thread? Back on topic of "how much dem grafics suk roflrofl"

Rebellious Treecko July 4th, 2007 12:59 AM

Although Nintendo could've done a bit better on some of the pokemon's models, remember the old saying, graphics don't make a good game...well, sometimes.
I think PBR has some decent graphics for the trainers, and other stuff.
Off topic: The thing i'm worried about the game is the announcer. It sounds really annoying after a while. Is there an option to turn it off?

Cross July 4th, 2007 1:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Eternal Smasher (Post 2583857)

Off topic: The thing i'm worried about the game is the announcer. It sounds really annoying after a while. Is there an option to turn it off?

Options menu on the main screen, then turn the voice "off".
I did that LONG ago...

mdarkcecil July 4th, 2007 5:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RSL (Post 2351532)
Spoiler:
Every time someone makes a post like that, baby Jesus cries. Do you know that? Get on drugs or off of them before you post this type of crud, okay?


Either you're an elitist or a pessimist but this game is FREAKIN' AWESOME!
(The Wii is a 256-bit system, whilst the GCN is 128.)

I agree he may be pessimist, but for the record, the wii is a 128-bit as well, there's no graphic improvments whatsoever. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess was the high point of both the wii and Game Cube Graphics.

Te-em July 4th, 2007 7:52 AM

I don't know if it's like this in BR, but there are unneeded scenes that only is a waste of time. The camera moves around when you select your attack, but when your going to attack there is a scene of your Pokémon doing NOTHING. Afterwards a scene when the pokemon attacks. It's only for a short time, but still it is useless. I hope it is gone in BR. And I also hope the animations of attacks that miss have returned from Stadium.

ThatInsaneKid July 4th, 2007 10:05 AM

@RileySox, Viksu, and OT_Ian: Shut up. You're dumb. If you don't have anything smart to say, don't say it.

And now, my rebuke for every stupid comment that has been posted since I last did so.

RileySox: Okay, so you're a spoiled brat. Saying things like "I have a PS3, and I got a Wii for Christmas," makes people hate you. And FYI, Sakurai has been quoted, MANY, MANY times that GRAPHICS ARE NOT THE FOCUS OF THE WII. So shut up about baseball, your stupid waste of money that Sony calls a gaming console, and get back to the topic on hand.

Arcof:

1. The only negative thing about Arcanine was about his paws. Get glasses. Or actually learn how to read well.

Sims796:
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Look, your all staring to sound like fanboys. Graphics in games are imporant. If my $250 NEXT-GEN SYSTEM Pokemon looks choppy and blocky, then there's a problem. I still think that the game is great, and I also say that it looks great, but it coud look better.
Once again... THE WII IS NOT ABOUT GRAPHICS. If you want graphics, go waste 1000 dollars for the "good" PS3. And get out of this topic.

I think its worth the money, but if graphics are a deciding factor to some people, so be it.


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One person's opinion. I, for one, who has played at least one game in each generation and has also liked Pokemon since it first came out, really like the fourth generation of Pokemon. And as for the old ones being "horrible", I think they all look fine. Arcanine? Sure, his paws aren't the greatest, but it's not like he hasn't been seriously improved from his 3D debut in Stadium. All of the models are absolutely stellar compared to their previous ones. Please. Pleeeeeeassee. PLEEEEAAASSSEEE STOP COMPLAINING.
Imaging if they had the same graphics then. That would not be acceptable on Next Gen. I don't care about the graphics, but there still nice.

HIPPOCRITE. You can't say that "blocky graphics are not acceptable in the Next-Gen," and then go back and say you don't care. Retard. And once again... THE WII IS NOT ABOUT GRAPHICS. SO SHUT UP ABOUT THEM.
The end.

*overdoses on 50-Calibur aspirin*

Cross July 4th, 2007 10:12 AM

Everyone, just stop posting in this thread and replying to Acrof, okay? He's a tard without learning capabilitys, and he will never figure out that the graphics he's whining about are hardly noticed.

Cookies and [partybox] for whoever actuallly ignore him and his thread from here on.

Viksu July 4th, 2007 10:12 AM

Ugh, girls can play baseball if they wanna.. But let's forget it.

I really like the Wii, it's great consol, and Battle Revoltion is one of my must-to-get games. Graphics doesn't tell anything. That's it. The most inpontart this is what game holds isnide of it.

acrof July 4th, 2007 10:37 AM

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"It's not about power, or graphics, or how real you can get it. What counts about a game is originality."
Nonsense, everything in a game is what produces the final result.

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Just look at FFVII, terrible graphics in our modern world, but the game kicks ass.
Your are just forgeting about one thing: FFVII IS A 11 YEARS OLD GAME!
and don´t forget that it was released in a 32 bits system wich has blocky graphics in every game.

If you wanted to compare games, you should compare PBR with FFX-2(because they would be from the same generation)
wich was released in a inferior system (graphically speaking), but still have better graphics than PBR.

Understand one thing about graphics:
NES graphics were good in the 8 bits era.
SNES graphics were good in the 16 bits era.
NINTENDO 64 graphics were good in the 32/64 bits era.
XBOX graphics were good in the 128 bits era.

The problem now is that Wii's competitors skipped the 256 bits era, and now are in the 512 bits era, while the Wii is still in the 256 bits era.
Not only that, a lot of Wii games are being released with NINTENDO 64 GRAPHICS because they are supposing that originality is everything in video-games, and it's not, it may be important but it's not everything.
THE SIMS, NIGHTS, and PBR (with the blocky models) are good examples of games released to Wii with this "little" problem.

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the graphics in PBR suck but only because it a wii game. and it doesnt matter cause really... Pokemon in HD?? they arent even real.
And since when FFX-2 characters were real? Or HALO characters?

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The only negative thing about Arcanine was about his paws. Get glasses. Or actually learn how to read well.
Jesus...
Once again:
The entire model is the same from stadium series, not only for my arcanne and my typhlosion, but a lot of them are like this.
(Slowbro, Pidgeot, Exeggutor, Blyssey, Ledian, for example, are the same found on Stadium, check by yourself)

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Imaging if they had the same graphics then. That would not be acceptable on Next Gen. I don't care about the graphics, but there still nice.
They are only acceptable in retro gaming.

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THE WII IS NOT ABOUT GRAPHICS.
HOWEVER, the Wii is about 3 times more powerfull than a GameCube:
*Large DVD discs with 3 times more storage capacity
*3 times faster processor
*Almost 2 times more RAM memory
*512 Megabytes internal flash memory
*Bios upgradable trough download
*Motion senistive wireless remote control
*Compatible with most of GameCube's peripherals
*SD card slot

So the Wii is not about graphics?
So why didn't they create a N64 with a high-tech controller instead?
Why did they create a hardware more powerfull than it's predecessor?

THE WII IS ABLE TO RUN EXCELLENT QUALITY GRAPHICS, THE PROBLEM IS THAT GAME COMPANIES THAT CREATE GAMES FOR THE WII AREN'T USING THIS.
But why? Because they are lazy? Because they don't want to waste money to create better games?

I don't care about the answer, but we could get games with grphics similar to those found on the X360 but with the benefits of the Wii (the remote control for example).

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Everyone, just stop posting in this thread and replying to Acrof, okay? He's a tard without learning capabilitys, and he will never figure out that the graphics he's whining about are hardly noticed.

Cookies and [partybox] for whoever actuallly ignore him and his thread from here on.
Wow.
That's a good strategy!
Trying to make people stop to post in this thread so that I wouldn't be able to post here because it would be a double post, and this thread would die and anyone would be able to post in it anymore after some time.
Remeber me to do the same with your threads.:badsmile:

Cross July 4th, 2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2585008)
Nonsense, everything in a game is what produces the final result.

Your are just forgeting about one thing: FFVII IS A 11 YEARS OLD GAME!
and don´t forget that it was released in a 32 bits system wich has blocky graphics in every game.

If you wanted to compare games, you should compare PBR with FFX-2(because they would be from the same generation)
wich was released in a inferior system (graphically speaking), but still have better graphics than PBR.

Understand one thing about graphics:
NES graphics were good in the 8 bits era.
SNES graphics were good in the 16 bits era.
NINTENDO 64 graphics were good in the 32/64 bits era.
XBOX graphics were good in the 128 bits era.

The problem now is that Wii's competitors skipped the 256 bits era, and now are in the 512 bits era, while the Wii is still in the 256 bits era.
Not only that, a lot of Wii games are being released with NINTENDO 64 GRAPHICS because they are supposing that originality is everything in video-games, and it's not, it may be important but it's not everything.
THE SIMS, NIGHTS, and PBR (with the blocky models) are good examples of games released to Wii with this "little" problem.

And since when FFX-2 characters were real? Or HALO characters?

Jesus...
Once again:
The entire model is the same from stadium series, not only for my arcanne and my typhlosion, but a lot of them are like this.
(Slowbro, Pidgeot, Exeggutor, Blyssey, Ledian, for example, are the same found on Stadium, check by yourself)

They are only acceptable in retro gaming.


HOWEVER, the Wii is about 3 times more powerfull than a GameCube:
*Large DVD discs with 3 times more storage capacity
*3 times faster processor
*Almost 2 times more RAM memory
*512 Megabytes internal flash memory
*Bios upgradable trough download
*Motion senistive wireless remote control
*Compatible with most of GameCube's peripherals
*SD card slot

So the Wii is not about graphics?
So why didn't they create a N64 with a high-tech controller instead?
Why did they create a hardware more powerfull than it's predecessor?

THE WII IS ABLE TO RUN EXCELLENT QUALITY GRAPHICS, THE PROBLEM IS THAT GAME COMPANIES THAT CREATE GAMES FOR THE WII AREN'T USING THIS.
But why? Because they are lazy? Because they don't want to waste money to create better games?

I don't care about the answer, but we could get games with grphics similar to those found on the X360 but with the benefits of the Wii (the remote control for example).

Wow.
That's a good strategy!
Trying to make people stop to post in this thread so that I wouldn't be able to post here because it would be a double post, and this thread would die and anyone would be able to post in it anymore after some time.
Remeber me to do the same with your threads.:badsmile:

I'll alert the mods when you commit kamikaze in "poll: Where's Waldo".

And enjoy the game. I've already gotten to Stargazer Colosseum (Thanks to a buddy of mine who's just as good as I am) and throughout the game, I had so much fun, graphics were just a blur compared to fun gameplay.

AztecSunshine July 4th, 2007 11:22 AM

the grachics aren't every thing you just want a reson to whine about i don't care if they used the old dratini from the old games i love dratini and dragonair and there grachics mean nothing you are just one of those ppl who whine bacuas a poke ball disapper in the player hand

acrof July 4th, 2007 1:21 PM

You know what?
I give up, I´m tired of trying to deffend my opinion.
However my decision stills the same:
PBR is just an unfinished game, with tons of not remodeled pokes.
A featureless game, that could be better, but you are able to battle wi-fi very well with it, so I´ll try it someday.
See you there, and make sure to battle me, so I can show my stadium like pokemon, and beat you, of course! ;)

Ichida July 4th, 2007 1:25 PM

Then go back to Stadium, when the designs were "new," and pointless minigames flourished. :D


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