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I don't think the graphics are all that bad. I still might get this game. It looks interesting enough.
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You are ridiculous. Can´t you at least try to act like a civilized person? I think someone needs a doctor, and some tranquilizers too. |
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A person's opinion about a game shouldn't lead anyone to such heated arguments. Simply accept the fact that some people like graphics, and some people like gameplay, and discuss maturely what could be done, what doesn't need to be done, what could be improved, etc. Discussions like these boil down to your own personal opinion, which you should definitely share, but not try to force onto anyone else. |
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Then when we state our opinion, he shoves down our throats his opinion of "LOL the grafiks suk on dis game!1" And Acrof, watch this video, and before you watch it, hit the Normal Size button next to the full screen button. Then talk about the graphics. =\ If the game has a narrator that speaks every Pokemons name and announces death, switches and entrys, plus the game has to contain all the attack animations, plus all the Pokemon models and arenas models, plus mathmatical info, stat info, AR/GS detecting system and everything else, its almost 100% assursed the graphics aren't perfect because GF used so much information and data to start. And have you, may I ask, seen the game on your own personal living room TV? Or have you watched Youtube videos? I saw it at my friends house, and the graphics are equal (if not better) than previous Pokemon console graphics. |
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As for your comment about the screenshot: why post a screenshot of an unedited battle system if you're going to edit it? That's just pointless. ._. Also, don't you find it ironic that you posted an edited D/P screenshot with low-resolution, limited pallet Pokémon sprites, but your own game has just as big resolution/colour differences? It's also ironic how you claim to be so darn good at judging games, but post a default RPGMaker system 'Pokémon game' and apparently think it's good? |
Uhg, these bad graphics are a real disappointment.
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By the way, Smarties-Kun, you just owned Acrof. =D |
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I suppose GF could go the cel-shaded route. It's a thought anyway.
On topic, don't forget that all you've seen so far are previews, and not the full game as such yet. Don't judge until you have played a copy. (PS You've got plenty of time to save up, so don't worry about the cost) |
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May be true, but I still find it to be just like the other stadium games but with other upgrades. It looks worth, I like the graphics and the game overall from what I see.
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And while this is probably the longest on going argument ever, I really find you all rather sad about arguing it. A) Yutss just owned you's all who say "THA GRAFIX SUXX!!!!" who have probably only watched it on YouTube's crappy quality. If you read his post it showed the normal size of the video, and the graphics look way sharper. B) This game is Nintendo's first game for the Wii. Like Xbox 360 and their crappy first footie titles, they get better progressivly once they figure out every Wii mechanic to squeeze that every detail out. We know Nintendo didnt make the most of GBA graphics, and as some people may claim, the DS graphics (which I disagree on...ish) C) WHY THE HELL DO I EVEN CARE!? I dont even HAVE A Wii!!! |
...I know I said that I was getting out of the discussion, but really quickly:
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The graphics are better than the other Pokémon games but still it's Game Cube graphics, not Wii. The Pokémon looks plastic:(
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To wrap up this arguemen: Acrof: The stadium graphics are for nostalgia. The Pokehexagon is the stupidest thing to ever complain about. The Pokeball disappearing is a glitch, not lazy programming. The graphics "Suck" only because you're watching stretched videos, not minimizing them to actual size. The "GSC" graphics in D/P is irrelavant to the subject, as we're talking about PBR. You can still tell it's Typhlosion and Charizard battling, also. You haven't yet seen them on your TV yet, have you? What if the graphics suck only because of Youtues crappy quality, your crappy computer or both? (In defense, you're probably going to say "U HAVNT CEEN T ON UR TV!!!1". And infact, I haven't. I saw it on a friends TV. He imported from Japan. =/ And one more thing. Bad Graphics don't make a bad game (With the exception of the 300 video game. Good god.) And bad construction sures hell doesn't make a bad game either. Lack of good gameplay, text errors and severe glitches, THOSE make bad gameplay. And now to other people: When has this become an Opinion thread? It looks like a rant thread to me, and Acrof is starting a flame war. I urge you people to stop replying, and play the freaking game, without being critical of a minor "Fault in Graphics" (Oh god) of the game. |
Yes, the Pokémon do look plastic, but that's not because of the quality of the graphics, it's because the lack of real textures. But what's done is done and I don't see how complaining about it will make things any better. =| And as Yutss (and IIRC, me too) already pointed out, bad graphics don't make a bad. 'Sides, the attack effects are freakin' awesome. <3
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I'll have to say Pokémon can't and won't look better than in Game Cube. Why? Because they're not real. They are supposed to be cartoonish, so nothing can be done about it, unless you want to see a real horse with fire on its back and a horn that doesn't resemble the Rapidash you used to know.
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I never even noticed the differences in D/P.
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^I have to agree with you there. I personally think cel-shading would really match the style of Pokémon. Whether or not they've done it before, they should seriously give it a public shot.
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I also think cell-shading would be great for pokemon games.
I might be referring to an earlier part of this discussion but, Pokemon is not Final Fantasy. It is meant to be turn-based. That's just the style that any Pokemon-Fan fell in love with. A GOOD story line would be great and for information: They are thinking about a MMORPG of pokemon but that'll take some years. |
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Does PBR have bad graphics? No. Could they have been better? Yes. What a lot of people forget about D/P, PBR, and other Pokemon games is it's Pokemon. They don't have to have the most fancy graphics out there, they don't have to have some nice big fancy FMVs for the games. They like to keep things simple on the graphics side (why does D/P look a lot like the GBA Pokemon games? Because they want to keep it simple, they want to keep it the way it's always been). XD1 PBR1 XD2 PBR2 XD3 PBR3 I tried to keep them close to the same size. But you get the point. PBR might be a step above XD (a little step), but on the graphics side PBR could have been done better. Am I complaining about the graphics of PBR? Nope, because I was fine with Col and XD, I'll be fine with PBR. It's a Pokemon game, I wasn't looking for some great big step above in graphics for PBR. I just want a 3D game where I can battle on the Wii. If I wanted a console with some nice HD flashy fancy graphics then I wouldn't have gotten a Wii (I'm not saying it can't pull off some shocker on graphics, but I look at Final Fantasy XIII and I know the Wii can't do that). And I know that graphics doesn't make the game, as long as the gameplay is good I'll be happy with PBR. If I am let down by PBR it won't be due to the graphics. |
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