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Dizzy April 25th, 2004 4:57 PM

One Thing Fire Red and Leaf Green Should have Kept From Ruby and Sapphire
 
Message: I know that Fire Red and Leaf Green are Remakes, and many new things are kept, Such as Johto Pokemon and Berries.

What do you think they should have kept from Ruby and Sapphire that they didnt in Fire Red and Leaf Green? I think they should have kept the Secret Bases, and the Berry Bushes, and Contests. Even though Berries are in Fire Red and Leaf Green, you can't grow them, you have to get them off Pokemon or Find them in the Ground, or get a Pokemon with Pick-Up to find it. The Running shoes are Included in Fire Red and Leaf Green By the Way....But it's just a remake.

Chamo-Me Dizzy

Frostweaver April 25th, 2004 5:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy
Message: I know that Fire Red and Leaf Green are Remakes, and many new things are kept, Such as Johto Pokemon and Berries.

What do you think they should have kept from Ruby and Sapphire that they didnt in Fire Red and Leaf Green? I think they should have kept the Secret Bases, and the Berry Bushes, and Contests. Even though Berries are in Fire Red and Leaf Green, you can't grow them, you have to get them off Pokemon or Find them in the Ground, or get a Pokemon with Pick-Up to find it. The Running shoes are Included in Fire Red and Leaf Green By the Way....But it's just a remake.

Chamo-Me Dizzy

The most and only valuable things from FRLG are...
-making even more ubars (Deoxy-F and Deoxy-L) as if there isn't enough
-move tutors...

Result of the above: an enhanced netbattle =)

Dizzy April 25th, 2004 5:05 PM

I like the TM System, The Berry-Bag, Tv, Map, and some other cool things, but they should have combined it into a super thingy gadget

bna_li April 25th, 2004 10:39 PM

I like the contests... and the berries.

Lucifer. April 26th, 2004 2:58 AM

Contests are stupid. I'm glad to hear they're not in FR/LG.

Intuition April 26th, 2004 6:39 AM

In the original Red and Blue versions there wheren't any contests..
So why should there be any now??..

stewie&rupert April 26th, 2004 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy
Message: I know that Fire Red and Leaf Green are Remakes, and many new things are kept, Such as Johto Pokemon and Berries.

What do you think they should have kept from Ruby and Sapphire that they didnt in Fire Red and Leaf Green? I think they should have kept the Secret Bases, and the Berry Bushes, and Contests. Even though Berries are in Fire Red and Leaf Green, you can't grow them, you have to get them off Pokemon or Find them in the Ground, or get a Pokemon with Pick-Up to find it. The Running shoes are Included in Fire Red and Leaf Green By the Way....But it's just a remake.

Chamo-Me Dizzy

:'( theres no secret bases.......thats my absolute favorite thing in r/s. so wat if there remakes, they put the running shoes but no secret base. wat a rip-off. :tired: literaly rip-off since they always 'rip-off' the good stuff from the game.

Dizzy April 27th, 2004 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mewther
In the original Red and Blue versions there wheren't any contests..
So why should there be any now??..

There were alot of things in the Old Game that they didnt have, but made it to this game anyways.

Intuition April 27th, 2004 12:14 PM

Yeah, your right.. Wasn't thinking at the time.. :P lol

stewie&rupert April 27th, 2004 12:38 PM

theres no contests in the rainbow islands. no matter i dont care, i never liked it. *i could never win :\*

Intuition April 28th, 2004 1:08 AM

Same here.. I was to lazy to do that stupid contests..

Shinin April 28th, 2004 3:41 AM

They should've had the old TMs... the old ones were better than the R/S ones...
I don't really care about contests or berries.

PokeReaper April 28th, 2004 9:02 PM

Preview Revue
 
So basically from what you guys have said, I think that Pokémon FR/LG is not a remake OR revamp of the original Pokémon series, but is actually a hybrid of the original series AND Ruby/Sapphire in more ways than just graphics.

With that being said, it is MY opinion that FR/LG is a TERRIBLE hybrid because it has R/S's TM's, no contests, Johto is uncharted once again, obviously you just have that one crappy little STANDARD bike [since no one has mentioned the MACH BIKE or ACRO BIKE], & there are STILL a big chunk of the G/S/C Pokémon nowhere to be found !

How do you OFFICIALLY capture all 386 then ?

Ah ha !
most, if not all, of those G/S/C Pokémon ARE capturable in Pokémon Colosseum, & then transferrible to R/S.

Well, I'll just sum-it-up like this:
Pokémon Fire Red/ Leaf Green good/Bad Points
GOOD
1. Better graphics
2. Trade ability with Ruby/Sapphire [and possibly Pokémon Colosseum, but not necessary if you have Ruby or Sapphire]
3. More adventure to explore. [Mystery Islands]

BAD
1. Ruby/Sapphire TM's instead of the FIRST SET of TM's.
2. No breeding.
3. Nintendo will give everyone besides JAPAN the short-end of the stick by taking Deoxys OUT like they did with Mew, Celebi, & Jirachi OR They'll leave Deoxys in, BUT take Mew out AGAIN & STILL leave you wondering about Celebi.
WHAT ABOUT CELEBI ! ! !
4. You'll most likely have to wait until Pokémon Coloseum 2 to use some of your Pokémon in 3-D battles because the strategy guide for Pokémon Colosseum only mentions Pokémon caught in Pokémon Colosseum & R/S as usable in Pokémon Colosseum.
5. Just send me a private message for the rest because I WILL buy both versions, but I STILL belive that Fire Red/Leaf Green sux !

I just want a new adventure, & it's close enough for me.

YES, I'M VERY BORED.

Frostweaver April 28th, 2004 9:11 PM

-the old set of TMs ARE in the game. Just that they are now move tutors, and not TMs. All the old TMs are bought back such as explosion, substitute and so on.

-there is breeding... it's on one of the islands

-so what about Nintendo... as long as they included them in the game, Netbattle will have them so no lost

-major strategies change, opening new strategies and making even more Pokemon usable ^-^

Demotruk April 29th, 2004 7:21 AM

Um, I know nobody will agree with me, but I like the idea of no contests in FR/LG. I do like contests, but only so that my pokemon can be covered in ribbons. It's good that you can only obtain the contest ribbons in R/S, thereby giving more prestige to Pokemon that have been traded from R/S to FR/LG with lots of ribbons. Although, I know very few people actually care about the ribbons.

Same goes for berries. TO be strategical with berries in FR/LG you probably have to grow them in R/S and trade them, thereby making them more valuable to FR/LG players, making item trading more useful. But once again, some people don't care about berries.

Intuition April 29th, 2004 7:58 AM

Well.. I agree with you Demotruk..

Sponge_Bartjuh April 29th, 2004 8:46 AM

what's the use of berries in FR/LG anyway? I mean, if there are no contests and all... I never use them for healing paralysis or sleep or whatever... and healing 10 HP? give me a break -.-

Intuition April 29th, 2004 8:47 AM

That's the only use I think.. The paralyse berrie can be useful though

Dizzy April 29th, 2004 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sponge_Bartjuh
what's the use of berries in FR/LG anyway? I mean, if there are no contests and all... I never use them for healing paralysis or sleep or whatever... and healing 10 HP? give me a break -.-

You could trade them to Ruby and Sapphire, but keep the ones that help status impairments :).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mewther
Well.. I agree with you Demotruk..

Please don't spam mewther, you could say more then I agree with you.

awkwardsilencer April 29th, 2004 3:51 PM

what are you guys talking about net battles?...the wireless adapter? cuz thats not net, with that u can play with people like only a half mile away. lol

Lucifer. April 30th, 2004 1:48 AM

Netbattle is a program that allows you to have Pokemon fights over the internet. It's pretty good if you're a hardcore battler, but I prefer to just stick to the games. I sometimes venture on to get my a55 kicked by the elites there though. All in the name of fun. ^o)

awkwardsilencer April 30th, 2004 12:06 PM

oh yeh i know that netbattle, but i thot u ment it was gonna be something with fr/lg...but any ways , with net battle do u actually see ur guys like the game, or is it just like a chat?

PokeReaper May 3rd, 2004 7:25 PM

I agree too.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demotruk
thereby making them more valuable to FR/LG players, making item trading more useful.

I never thought about not being able to grow berries in FR/LG like that before.
Now the only question is this:
CAN you trade berries that didn't exist in the original games to FR/LG from R/S ?
You SHOULD be able to.

Nintendo's President is the video game industry's version of Vince McMahon.
Just look at how they keep successfully exploiting the Pokémon series.
I hate Nintendo.

Think about it.
Red & Blue are the exact same game.-- They just have like 11 exclusive pokémon each forcing you to trade to get all of them, but when you don't have any friends to trade with you have to cheat or buy BOTH games just to catch all of them.
The same goes for Gold & Silver.
Yellow was slightly different from R/B, but kids only bought it so they could have "ASH'S PIKACHU".
Crystal was slightly different from G/S, but I only bought it because they said they were going to leave in the ability to catch the genuine CELEBI.
They did that, but you have to use 3 GS codes to do so.

I HATE NINTENDO !
They're geniuses, but they're EVIL, LYING geniuses !

Dizzy May 15th, 2004 10:21 AM

They should rid of this "national pokedex" thingy. I mean Ruby and Sapphire was different because there was no way to obtain the older pokemon, but This is just ridiculous.

Ron_2o04 May 15th, 2004 5:00 PM

Where do i get this netbattle thingie?

Oblivion May 15th, 2004 9:55 PM

Meh... Deoxis probably wiil be in the game, and even if hes not, not much love lost between us, he wasnt that good, many legendaries arent... It should have had totally NEW pokeomon though... Deoxis not included...

awkwardsilencer May 16th, 2004 9:04 AM

Deoxys is in it, the triangle island. and theres codes to get there on the rom so go and ull see.

demonstrife May 20th, 2004 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer
Netbattle is a program that allows you to have Pokemon fights over the internet. It's pretty good if you're a hardcore battler, but I prefer to just stick to the games. I sometimes venture on to get my a55 kicked by the elites there though. All in the name of fun. ^o)

Netbattle? How do do that? Can it be done with a cart and a GBASP?

shining_light May 20th, 2004 12:15 PM

no, you make your own team.

Lucifer. May 20th, 2004 2:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonstrife
Netbattle? How do do that? Can it be done with a cart and a GBASP?

It has nothing to do with your GBA game. Read the sticky thread in Strategies & Movesets.

Oh yeah and I'm pretty sure all the old TMs aren't in FR/LG. Whirlwind? Water Gun? Etc.

Carlito-san May 21st, 2004 11:42 AM

They should have cept the specility bikes i liked zooming to mauville or bouncing around do they have fifty move tutors if there is not then all good tm hope is lost : ( ( goes and cries in a circular rooms corner)

Jari May 21st, 2004 12:12 PM

Netbattle is like MSN: You download it and battles and talk via Internet.
May I give the link?

shining_light May 21st, 2004 12:19 PM

someone's probably mentioned this, but the SecretBases.

Jari May 21st, 2004 1:02 PM

The secret bases are what im really gonna miss.

Joey Montag May 22nd, 2004 6:54 AM

I miss... the bike choice. And the weather, it was fun when it rained. And... I am still mad that there is still no night and day. Why would they take it out!? ROAR! I am kind of glad that they take the 'grand-prize Pokemon' out of the American games because I get the Japanese ones so I can brag :P
Just get the Japanese ones. But learn the language first :P

Jari May 22nd, 2004 12:12 PM

The bike choice,weather and day/night too.

Also the part of the Trainers Eyes where you can see how many battles you had.Trainers Eyes is taken out because of the Battle Seeker.

Lucifer. May 24th, 2004 1:21 AM

Day/Night wasn't in R/S. I miss it from G/S/C though. Waiting 'til nightfall for the likes of Houndour and Murkrow to appear was cool, and having Eevee evolve depending on the time of day.

Secret Bases are pointless. And contests.

demonstrife October 28th, 2004 8:02 AM

Me, I say that something from Emerald should be in it. Animations. That is what I want. Oh, and it should be in 3D, with a real time battle system. But, Nintendo won't change there tried and true formula... *BOO!!* oh well. Just play it like it is people. And hope that Nintendo says yes to online gaming.


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