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houndoom February 16th, 2007 4:40 PM

quicker way to get yur dragonair to evolve into a dragonite
 
1.go to island#1 if you have fly move.
2.next, go to mt.ember and go inside.
3.then, take the left until you see 2 boulders.
4.push them until you see a woman trainer,battle her then you will see some grass if you walk to the left.
5.walk or run around in the grass.oh yea!!! make sure you have exp.share.Give it to your dragonair, then put it in second place of your party.Dont put it in front because you wont get higher points.
6.As you run or walk around in the grass you will meet machop,fearow,rapidash and ponyta ai lv 30 all the way to level 40.Its a 5% chance you will battle a rapidash at lv 40.
7.If yur dragonair is at lv 30 yur alright,but still give it the exp.share and keep it in second.
note:yur dragonair wont evolve into a dragonite until it reaches lv 55.
8.make sure you have lots of hyper or super portions.
9. watch out for fearows fury attack and mirror move.And machops revenge attack it can do some real damage to dragonair.
10.Keep walking around in the grass and you will encounter them.
11.For more exp.points go to the elite 4 and get yor strongest pokemon and yur dragonair and face them..After a wile walking or running in the grass or battling the elite4 yur dragonair will evolve into a dragonite.Trust me it will be worth it.IT was worth it when i got my dragonite

shanecdavis February 16th, 2007 4:54 PM

A faster way is to Fly to Cerulean City and go north to Route 24. Head west and then south to the water. Surf to the cave. Inside Cerulean Cave is where you will find the highest leveled wild Pokes in the game (Lv40-70).

The fastest way is, of course, battling the Weak5 after you finish Four Island and Lorelei returns and the Pokes jump up to Lv64-75.

Samson February 16th, 2007 5:38 PM

if your pokemon aren't high enough in level to handle the (as shane refers to them ;)) Weak5 quite that easily, then go to 7 island, and use your VS Seeker to rebattle the trainers directly south of the pokemon center. there, you can also EV train your pokemon with certain care for their/its stats.

mb1641 March 6th, 2007 6:49 PM

Sweet, thx for the pointer.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ March 7th, 2007 1:38 PM

other than the Elite 4 I go to Island 7 and train, thats the best place oh and island one (great for Flying and Psychic types) there are a bunch of fighting type Pokemon trainers there

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~


Samson March 7th, 2007 6:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~ (Post 2405040)
other than the Elite 4 I go to Island 7 and train, thats the best place oh and island one (great for Flying and Psychic types) there are a bunch of fighting type Pokemon trainers there

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~


true, but LOL you know what i forgot when i trained my xatu there? battling all those fighting pokemon puts your Attack EVs WAY too high!! = O so yeah, i have one Xatu with a higher attack than sp attack while the other has a pretty high sp attack. i got the second ones Sp Attack up by EV battling against the Vileplume trainer on 7 Island. you got +3 sp attack EVs for each one.

so yeah, don't train your psychic types on island 1 if you want it to have a higher sp attack. if you have a flying type like dodrio you want to raise to get attack EVs, you can actually just battle the Victreebel trainer on island 7, and you get +3 attack EVs. if you want to raise speed, Electrode (you may have to switch) is +3 spd. if you want Sp defense, the Bellossom trainer will get you two +3 EVs.

Kraka-chan March 8th, 2007 12:47 AM

The fastest way to evolve Dragonair is to trade it to another game and level it up from there.
But since I'm conserned it would affect its EVs, I tend not to use this method.

I go for the looong, boorring method of training.

Crazy Weavile March 9th, 2007 10:52 PM

Fastest possible method:
Obtain Dragonair
Obtain Lucky Egg
Attach Lucky Egg
Go to Cerulean Cave and beat wild Pokemon to bloody pulps
Evolve
Trade to Emerald
Remove junk EVs
EV train

And THAT is a speed Dragonite.

Death Rogers March 10th, 2007 4:49 AM

If you have Collesseum, trade it there and battle Realgem Tower with your Dratini/Dragonair in the back of your party with EXP. Share. It'll get tons of EXP. That's pretty much the fastest method I know.

Draffut March 11th, 2007 10:32 PM

So there is some place in Emerald that you can remove junk EV's?

Paranoia March 12th, 2007 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Draffut (Post 2409858)
So there is some place in Emerald that you can remove junk EV's?

Yeah, but you use berries to do it, heres the list:

Pomeg Berry: Lowers Effort Points for HP by 10 Points
Kelpsy Berry: Lowers Effort Points for Attack by 10 Points
Qualot Berry: Lowers Effort Points for Defense by 10 Points
Hondew Berry: Lowers Effort Points for Special Attack by 10 Points
Grepa Berry: Lowers Effort Points for Special Defense by 10 Points
Tamato Berry: Lowers Effort Points for Speed by 10 Points

Although I think these berries also raise your pokemons happiness by a certain amount. So it's like 2 in 1!

Naruto The 6th Hokage March 12th, 2007 10:13 AM

I evolved mines in Mt.Battle in Colloseum.100 straight battles is sure to evolve it.

Richard Lynch March 15th, 2007 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Weavile (Post 2407660)
Fastest possible method:
Obtain Dragonair
Obtain Lucky Egg
Attach Lucky Egg
Go to Cerulean Cave and beat wild Pokemon to bloody pulps
Evolve
Trade to Emerald
Remove junk EVs
EV train

And THAT is a speed Dragonite.

I agree, but a Lucky Egg is EXTREMELEY hard to come by; one of the rarest hold items in the game, if not THE rarest. A 5% chance of it being held, along with the rarity and the probability of catching a Chansey, the only Poke who holds it, makes for a very slim change you'll obtain it without the planets being aligned.

Bliksem March 19th, 2007 8:53 PM

Lucky Egg is an easy item to obtain if you have Pokemon XD.

I must note that the original poster's method is unbearably slow, considering the fact that the Exp Share will only give Dragonair half the EXP it would gain had it fought the battles itself.

Dee Trier March 19th, 2007 9:14 PM

Quickest way sure is rare candy. In Fr/lg i was leveling using Tb on wild tentacool, It's not really quick but it help me now battle again my friend because those sp def evs (Alakazam ice punch can't kill it in one attack)

RYOUKI March 20th, 2007 3:39 AM

well i think the fastest way is
obtain dragonite safari zone/game corner
give exp share/train it
after e4 your pkmn will come out as 53->62
i think your dragonair is evovle now
i have mine (i finished the e4)lvl 62 strongest
outrage,wing attack,hyper beam, dragon rage (not in order)
its last move set is hyper beam lvl 75 but i teach it
and i train it that way

shanecdavis March 20th, 2007 6:47 AM

Okay, one last time. The quickest way to evolve your Dratini is the ELITE FOUR, or Weak5 as I call them.

- Turn on the stupid Shift option that allows you to switch Pokes before each time your opponent changes Pokes. Seriously, how cheap is that?

- Make your Dratini hold the Exp. Share and put it first in your party

- Starting with the first battle, switch out Dratini the first turn to a higher level Poke. Every time an opponent's Poke is fainted, it will ask you if you want to switch Poke (extremely cheap). Say 'YES', and put Dratini back in the lead.

- Rinse, lather, repeat for every single battle of the Weak5.

Outside of using Rare Candies, there is nothing faster in the game.

As for the moveset, these are the best movesets for Dragonite:

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Aerial Ace
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Thunderbolt

Dragonite's base Atk is much higher than its SAtk (134 vs. 100), and with Dragon Dance which increases its Atk and Spd, it becomes one of the best physical attackers in the game. With a STAB Aerial Ace and Earthquake, it deals massive damage and has Thunderbolt to hit things the aforementioned moves cannot (i.e. Flying-types, Pokes with Levitate, etc.)

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Another great option, especially in-game where the AI is too limited to switch out. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt hit almost all types in the game hard, and Focus Punch takes care of Normal-types and other Pokes that resist special attacks.

Siigari March 20th, 2007 10:14 AM

Why inner focus over shed skin?

shanecdavis March 20th, 2007 1:10 PM

Mainly because Dragonite doesn't have the Shed Skin Trait. Dragonair does.

Siigari March 20th, 2007 2:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanecdavis (Post 2418457)
Mainly because Dragonite doesn't have the Shed Skin Trait. Dragonair does.

So when you evolve a Dragonair to Dragonite, he gains the Inner Focus ability?

shanecdavis March 20th, 2007 2:58 PM

Yes, it changes to Inner Focus.

RYOUKI March 21st, 2007 9:14 AM

but i still prefer shed skin to inner focus
anyway the best moveset for dragonite is
Outrage
Wingattack
dragon rage
hyperbeam
the 1st 3 has stab move and the last one is a final resort

shanecdavis March 21st, 2007 9:40 AM

While you prefer Shed Skin to Inner Focus, Dragonite ONLY has Inner Focus as a trait.

Not to be rude, but your moveset is not the best for Dragonite. Outrage is a horrible Dragon move. It locks in for 2-3 turns, preventing you from being able to do anything else, and then confuses your Poke at the end. A complete waste. Dragon Claw is a much better option, but neither are good for Dragonite. Dragonite's strength, as I said before, is its much higher base Atk (134, compared to 100 base SAtk). Wing Attack does give STAB, but Aerial Ace is much better as it throws accuracy out the window, which comes in handy against the pathetic AI that is in love with the crappy accuracy-dropping moves like Double Team and such. Two turn moves like Hyper Beam are also wasted here. Dragonite can do more damage attacking twice in two turns with Aerial Ace than it can attacking only once in two turns with Hyper Beam. Plus Aerial Ace gets Super Effective damage while Hyper Beam doesn't. Lastly, having two Dragon-type attacks on the same Poke only limits the effectiveness of it. Using better moves (i.e. Earthquake, Rock Slide, Ice Beam) allows Dragonite a better chance to deal more damage.

Bliksem March 21st, 2007 9:44 AM

Note: The Dragon Dancing Dragonite mentioned doesn't get STAB on Earthquake. It was just poorly worded. If one wants to use it as such, Salamence is far better, with slightly higher attack stats and intimidate. Dragonite should take advantage of its ability to use Focus Punch and the Ice Beam/Thunderbolt combination.

Second Note: Dragon Rage does not receive STAB. It does a set 40 damage, making it *quite* inferior to the more powerful Seismic Toss, which does a set 100 damage (or 2.5x more damage than Dragon Rage) if the user is level 100.

Third Note: The moveset above this post is terrible. It doesn't bring out Dragonite's strengths at all and limits it by using Outrage. Outrage should *only* be used in D/P, where its greater power and use of the attack stat means that it is much more useful and dangerous.

shanecdavis March 21st, 2007 9:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bliksem (Post 2419019)
Note: The Dragon Dancing Dragonite mentioned doesn't get STAB on Earthquake. It was just poorly worded. If one wants to use it as such, Salamence is far better, with slightly higher attack stats and intimidate. Dragonite should take advantage of its ability to use Focus Punch and the Ice Beam/Thunderbolt combination.

Meh. DDnite is superior to the SubPunch variety. You shouldn't use it the same way as DDmence, or yes Salamence is a better option. It can survive a non-STAB Ice Beam though, something Salamence cannot. I prefer Thunder over Thunderbolt, but since this is obviously in-game, Thunderbolt can be used against the non-EV'd, random natured Pokes you will run across there.

RYOUKI March 21st, 2007 10:04 AM

but outrage isn't horrible, it is the most powerful 3rd gen dragon move next to dragon claw, aerial ace is pretty good stragety but wing attack is more likely to be a KO move (not to be confused w/ one hit ko moves) and further more as i said hyper beam is a last resort only to be used in battling stronger foe, it is not guaranted to ko the enemy but deals great damage and dragon rage ehh you can replace it w/ any move

shanecdavis March 21st, 2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazoREdge (Post 2419031)
but outrage isn't horrible, it is the most powerful 3rd gen dragon move next to dragon claw, aerial ace is pretty good stragety but wing attack is more likely to be a KO move (not to be confused w/ one hit ko moves) and further more as i said hyper beam is a last resort only to be used in battling stronger foe, it is not guaranted to ko the enemy but deals great damage and dragon rage ehh you can replace it w/ any move

The most powerful moves aren't always the best. Outrage and Hyper Beam are perfect examples. It is the locking down of the move that makes Outrage crap. For example, if you use Outrage and then your opponent switches to a Steel-type Poke, which resist Dragon attacks, you are stuck. The next turn your Poke will use Outrage again, and maybe even the turn after that. It is even worse in 2v2 since you cannot even control which Poke it will attack.

Wing Attack has no added benefit over Aerial Ace at all except more PP (35 vs. 20). Personally, having a move that will always hit wins against more PP, especially since in-game battles don't last nearly as long as competitive battles do.

You are giving too much credit to Hyper Beam. With your moveset, the almighty Hyper Beam will do max damage of 29% to Metagross. With my Dragon Dance moveset, however, an unboosted Earthquake will do max damage of 77%. After one Dragon Dance, it is a OHKO. With the SubPunch moveset, Focus Punch still does 58% max damage, or twice as much damage as Hyper Beam, plus you don't have to be locked into a turn to recharge.

RYOUKI March 21st, 2007 10:49 AM

you're right powerful moves arent always the best just like you said but for one thing what are the odds of your opponent switching steel poke
anyway in double battles outrage is not like earthquake which affects all poke's it's like razor leaf, swift and etc. and you have a good point but dragonite doent learn dragon dance to cover up outrage teach dragonite safeguard or keep it dragonite naturally learn safeguard and dragonite vs matagross ,dragonite uses hyper beam as a last resort so he(dragonite) could always use dragon rage sure it takes forever to knock metagross down but its worth a shot

shanecdavis March 21st, 2007 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazoREdge (Post 2419047)
you're right powerful moves arent always the best just like you said but for one thing what are the odds of your opponent switching steel poke
anyway in double battles outrage is not like earthquake which affects all poke's it's like razor leaf, swift and etc. and you have a good point but dragonite doent learn dragon dance to cover up outrage teach dragonite safeguard or keep it dragonite naturally learn safeguard and dragonite vs matagross ,dragonite uses hyper beam as a last resort so he(dragonite) could always use dragon rage sure it takes forever to knock metagross down but its worth a shot

Seeing as you are packing two Dragon moves, a Flying move, and a Normal move, that would be the first thing I did since all of the moves do .5 damage to Steel-types. If you were to battle competitively, you would see just how common Steel-types (i.e. Metagross, Skarmory, Forretress, Jirachi, etc.) really are.

Outrage is definitely not like Earthquake in which you can plan for and have your other Poke either immune to it or resist it. Outrage is not like Razor Leaf and Swift. Those moves hit both opponent's splitting the damage. Outrage hits only one Poke and the target is random. You have no control over it.

Dragonite certainly does learn Dragon Dance. It is what is called an Egg move. You breed a male Gyarados that knows Dragon Dance (Lv50) with a female Dratini/Dragonair/Dragonite, and the baby will be born with the move.

As I said before, Hyper Beam isn't a great last resort and Dragon Rage certainly isn't, especially against Metagross. While you are chipping away at 29% max damage with Hyper Beam or 40 HP damage (13%) with the pathetic Dragon Rage, Metagross can do 65% max damage with a Rock Slide or STAB Meteor Mash, or even a OHKO with Explosion.

Siigari March 22nd, 2007 10:18 AM

Holy crap you guys.

lol, this is a great argument.

I say, just have your Dragonite use Explosion. That's my 3 cents, adjusted for the inflation of this silly conversation.

edit: beaten on the Explosion, rofl

shanecdavis March 23rd, 2007 3:23 AM

Sorry, but Dragonite cannot learn Explosion, although an exploding Puff the Magic Dragon would be an interesting sight.

Lunux March 23rd, 2007 4:54 AM

Get a good flying pokemon, go to the ember spa and go in heal there and then give your Dragonair a EXP.share. Go out use your vs trainer and fight all of the fighting trainers with fighting pokemon. go back into the spa to heal and by the time you get there and back the vs. seeker will be charged again. quick and easy.

Samson March 25th, 2007 3:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanecdavis (Post 2420502)
Sorry, but Dragonite cannot learn Explosion, although an exploding Puff the Magic Dragon would be an interesting sight.

teehee, indeed it would =)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunux (Post 2420558)
Get a good flying pokemon, go to the ember spa and go in heal there and then give your Dragonair a EXP.share. Go out use your vs trainer and fight all of the fighting trainers with fighting pokemon. go back into the spa to heal and by the time you get there and back the vs. seeker will be charged again. quick and easy.

you're still disregarding that fighting all those will boost the Attack EV count. if that's not something he doesn't want to do, then i definitely don't suggest it. besides, Island 7 is better for training. there, you can boost 5 different kind of EVs between 4 different trainers, all of which are nearby a pokemon center.

so i emphasize... ISLAND 7. heaven? no, but it's a good alternative.

ltr_17 April 6th, 2007 7:35 AM

i'd say train:

in the E4
in the curileun cave/unknown dungeon (i have NO idea why some people call it unknown dungeon)
or in island 7-6.

Lt. Surge's Raichu April 7th, 2007 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazoREdge (Post 2419008)
but i still prefer shed skin to inner focus
anyway the best moveset for dragonite is
Outrage
Wingattack
dragon rage
hyperbeam
the 1st 3 has stab move and the last one is a final resort

Is that so?
Isn't dragon rage a bit weak?

Lunux April 7th, 2007 11:53 AM

Quote:

you're still disregarding that fighting all those will boost the Attack EV count. if that's not something he doesn't want to do, then i definitely don't suggest it. besides, Island 7 is better for training. there, you can boost 5 different kind of EVs between 4 different trainers, all of which are nearby a pokemon center.
Sorry but i don't care about EVs so that's how i did it. i didn't mean to upset anything.

shanecdavis April 9th, 2007 3:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt. Surge's Raichu (Post 2437172)
Is that so?
Isn't dragon rage a bit weak?

If you read the entire thread, you would know that has been discussed ad nauseum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunux (Post 2437206)
Sorry but i don't care about EVs so that's how i did it. i didn't mean to upset anything.

Not caring about EVs is certainly your choice, although it is akin to driving a Ferrari everywhere in only second gear. So much wasted horsepower. Kinda like Dragon Rage on a Dragonite. LOL

GeorgeWBushSupporter April 15th, 2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

in the curileun cave/unknown dungeon (i have NO idea why some people call it unknown dungeon
Because in the older games, the cave was called "Unknown Dungeon." Since it was the cave with the strongest pokemon in the game, and the end, people liked the name "Unknown Dungeon." You were unable to enter it unless you beaten the game. They changed the name, but people prefer the more mysterious name.


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