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ss5vegeta March 13th, 2007 9:35 AM

Gold and Silver remake
 
Diamond and Pearl have timeline refrences to Gold, Silver and Crystal, the mention of Red Gyarados, which is still there so G/S/C hasant happened yet.

Jasmine is also in the game and gives you a HM.

So there should be a G/S remake on DS like they did with R/B with R/S and it should be 4th generation.

Some D/P legendaries should be catchable like Hiidoran and the Psychic female Pokemon.

It shouldent be left out! Many people say it was the best generation ever.

Sakuya March 13th, 2007 11:55 AM

I wouldn't mind a G/S/C remake on the DS. As long as it keeps the FR/LG graphics. :/ I wouldn't want a remake with the D/P graphics. It's like an uber remake and that wasn't what R/B/Y got. Though Crystal is one of my favorite GB games ever, I want it treated and remade the same way as R/B/Y.

Drifblim March 13th, 2007 12:20 PM

I'm all for a remake. However, I'm angling for the following:
  • All 386 third-generation Pokémon, compatibility with Pal Park on Diamond and Pearl as well as Dash and Link, and capability to trade over the DS
  • A change in storyline: Have Giovanni come back after the Radio Tower incident and anger Lugia (Silver) or Ho-oh (Gold), à la Ruby and Sapphire, and raise the levels to 50 and 70
  • A battle frontier to replace the Crystal Battle Tower
  • Union Rooms, Berry Powder, minigames, and Battle Card compatibility (remember the house in Mossdeep?)
  • Compatibility with Eon, Mystic, and Aurora tickets as well as the Old Sea Chart; design a ticket for Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza amidst an area where third-gen Pokémon can be found, and a ticket for finding Jirachi for once
  • Rematch Gym Leaders à la Emerald, and increased difficulty of Elite Four à la Fire Red and Leaf Green
  • TMs updated to RSE, with HM09 for Whirlpool
  • Move tutors scattered throughout
  • Contests and record mixing (to replace the Trainer House in Viridian)

ss5vegeta March 13th, 2007 12:37 PM

and 100 tm's.

Giovanni should appear in the battle frontier or something extra mabey the sevil islands, keep the story the same then add more like fr/lg he should appear with silver (father son reunion) and explain there relation ship. That would also make the end for Team Rocket a real end.

Include Blue as well as Red and Green.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ March 13th, 2007 2:42 PM

Whatever CW stated seems to much for a GSC remake. Yea I would like to see it, also all of the updates would make it confusion. I ask myself this question, is there going to be all 493 Pokemon in the game? If so how will this gradually change the GSC gameplay

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

Alakazam17 March 13th, 2007 7:09 PM

I'm guessing it'll be like FrLg, in that you can only get the first 251 Pokemon in it, and, after defeating the Elite Four, you would then be able to get access to the entire 493 Pokemon.

ss5vegeta March 14th, 2007 2:11 AM

The National Dex should be obtained from Oak after beating the pokemon League and getting the 8 Kanto badges.

Drifblim March 14th, 2007 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ss5vegeta (Post 2412145)
The National Dex should be obtained from Oak after beating the pokemon League and getting the 8 Kanto badges.

Try after Red. And while we're at it we can dock his down a few levels, maybe 70 for his Pikachu.

Bkue March 14th, 2007 3:36 PM

Best One? Its been a while since I've played G/S/C but I thought it was the WORST. I had to import pokemon from R/B/Y To beat the Elite four.

But - I trained unevenly back then, so thats probably part of the reason. I might just restart it now.

ChrisG14 March 14th, 2007 3:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bkue (Post 2412717)
Best One? Its been a while since I've played G/S/C but I thought it was the WORST. I had to import pokemon from R/B/Y To beat the Elite four.

But - I trained unevenly back then, so thats probably part of the reason. I might just restart it now.

You couldn't beat the G/S/C Elite 4? The "I can take a couple of level 40s and a guy with Ice Beam" Elite 4?

Bkue March 14th, 2007 4:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisG14 (Post 2412723)
You couldn't beat the G/S/C Elite 4? The "I can take a couple of level 40s and a guy with Ice Beam" Elite 4?

Yea that one =P I even had a strategy guide and I couldnt beat it XD. I think I trained unevenly though, And then training up a lapras to own them got really boring.

Dudedude March 14th, 2007 5:37 PM

Lol...that was wierd..GSC was ze best generation ever!
A remake would be excellent.

Innagadadavida March 14th, 2007 5:56 PM

As much as I loved G/S/C I'd really prefer they make new games. Perhaps a Pokemon game where you can travel between Kanto, Johto, Hohen, Shinnoh, and Orre all on the same game. They could take out all of that "Save the world from Team (insert cheesy cliché here)" and just focus on making a great game that isn't notoriously short (like every game so far) where the goal is to actually catch 'em all! Gotta' catch 'em all.

Shiny Umbreon March 14th, 2007 7:00 PM

Ok. Too much things for being called a remake.

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Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
All 386 third-generation Pokémon, compatibility with Pal Park on Diamond and Pearl as well as Dash and Link, and capability to trade over the DS

Obviously compatible with D/P and the GBA games. Dash? Why? Link? What's that?

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Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
A change in storyline: Have Giovanni come back after the Radio Tower incident and anger Lugia (Silver) or Ho-oh (Gold), à la Ruby and Sapphire, and raise the levels to 50 and 70

Please, no changing in the storyline. Giovanni has already left in FR/LG. Also, levels are put to 40 (not 50) so you get a Pokémon with more attacks and easier to train. That's why the Pokémon not featured in your game is in level 70! It doesn't have Sacred Fire or Aeroblast.

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Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
A battle frontier to replace the Crystal Battle Tower

Please, not another Battle Frontier!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Union Rooms, Berry Powder, minigames, and Battle Card compatibility (remember the house in Mossdeep?)

Union Room, minigames, blah blah blah are okay. They need to get updated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Compatibility with Eon, Mystic, and Aurora tickets as well as the Old Sea Chart; design a ticket for Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza amidst an area where third-gen Pokémon can be found, and a ticket for finding Jirachi for once

Again, no changing the storyline. Though the Old Sea Chart could work.

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Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Rematch Gym Leaders à la Emerald, and increased difficulty of Elite Four à la Fire Red and Leaf Green

Totally agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
TMs updated to RSE, with HM09 for Whirlpool

Of course TMs need to be updated or trading them to D/P would be a mess. And Obviously Whirpool shoudl be there. It could be HM06, since you can't trade HMs anyway. (If you notice, D/P has different HMs than the Advance Generation)

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Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Move tutors scattered throughout

It's OK.

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Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Contests and record mixing (to replace the Trainer House in Viridian)

NO CONTESTS. Leave that to Hoenn or Sinnoh. Have you seen contests in FR/LG? So why put them in a G/S/C remake. By the way, the trainer house in Viridian City could be replaced with a building for Wi-Fi battles and stuff.


Yeah, it would be great. *Comes back to reality* But Nintendo will never do that unless they make another game where some Pokémon are missing (like R/S/E) It's not going to be for the DS for sure but we have the hope they'll do it one day.

ss5vegeta March 15th, 2007 2:52 AM

It will be for the DS, not GBA.

Auron March 15th, 2007 9:43 AM

Damn right !! G/S were two really good games (And Crystal was...Uff...Something really cool). I think they deserve to be remaked, and they are the only ones who aren't remaked...I hope Nintendo hear our plies xD

Samson March 15th, 2007 11:22 AM

OK

there's not much of a point to make a johto remake. with a johto remake, they'll obviously have to add kanto to the game, and kanto has already been remade if you remember (FR/LG). also, ALL the pokemon can be caught in D/P except for a couple legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, which can be caught on FR/LG with the necessary Nintendo Event item(s).

hate to break it to you, but there's just no point. the only explanation for the timeline reference to Johto is because they're trying to make the most sense out of the game -- they weren't going to include Kanto and Hoenn and just totally ignore Johto as if it's not an actual region in the world of Pokemon. remember, with D/P, they are trying to bring all of the elements of the game together, so they're including EVERYTHING into the games.

ChrisG14 March 15th, 2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2413439)
OK

there's not much of a point to make a johto remake. with a johto remake, they'll obviously have to add kanto to the game, and kanto has already been remade if you remember (FR/LG). also, ALL the pokemon can be caught in D/P except for a couple legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, which can be caught on FR/LG with the necessary Nintendo Event item(s).

hate to break it to you, but there's just no point. the only explanation for the timeline reference to Johto is because they're trying to make the most sense out of the game -- they weren't going to include Kanto and Hoenn and just totally ignore Johto as if it's not an actual region in the world of Pokemon. remember, with D/P, they are trying to bring all of the elements of the game together, so they're including EVERYTHING into the games.

So what is your saying is that there will never EVER, be a Johto remake? They'll remake the original but the 2nd Generation isn't good enough? And we aren't talking about catching Pokemon, we're just talking about a remake.

ss5vegeta March 15th, 2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2413439)
OK

there's not much of a point to make a johto remake. with a johto remake, they'll obviously have to add kanto to the game, and kanto has already been remade if you remember (FR/LG). also, ALL the pokemon can be caught in D/P except for a couple legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, which can be caught on FR/LG with the necessary Nintendo Event item(s).

hate to break it to you, but there's just no point. the only explanation for the timeline reference to Johto is because they're trying to make the most sense out of the game -- they weren't going to include Kanto and Hoenn and just totally ignore Johto as if it's not an actual region in the world of Pokemon. remember, with D/P, they are trying to bring all of the elements of the game together, so they're including EVERYTHING into the games.

So that means they was no point of making a yellow, crystal or emerald, but they did.

So dont rule it out just yet.

TB Pro March 15th, 2007 2:40 PM

I think it would be great to have a remake of G/S it was an awesome generation! the best if you ask me.I don't see why nintendo would remake R/B but neglect poor G/S.Also as Sampson said that they would have to remake Kanto as well well lets see in FR/LG they added on the Battle Tower,Tutored Moves,and the Sevii Islands so they could convert the Kanto Region over to something else like the Sevii Islands but a little different.maybe add a Series of Islands that Each had its own gym And a certain handful of pokes that you could only catch there.Like ones off of Hoenn like the Sevii Islands and G/S pokes.
O_o

Bkue March 15th, 2007 2:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Auron (Post 2413367)
Damn right !! G/S were two really good games (And Crystal was...Uff...Something really cool). I think they deserve to be remaked, and they are the only ones who aren't remaked...I hope Nintendo hear our plies xD

So now, How exactly is Crystal any different than G/S? The only difference I see is a battle tower, it actually tells you where you are instead of changing the music, and the choice of a boy or a girl. (Quote me if I forgot something) And thats bad how? Yes I agree that suicune sucks compared to Lugia and Ho-Ho. But thats more of an opinion.

Innagadadavida March 15th, 2007 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bkue (Post 2413686)
So now, How exactly is Crystal any different than G/S? The only difference I see is a battle tower, it actually tells you where you are instead of changing the music, and the choice of a boy or a girl. (Quote me if I forgot something) And thats bad how? Yes I agree that suicune sucks compared to Lugia and Ho-Ho. But thats more of an opinion.


In Crystal, there were several additional cut scenes with Suicune. Also, Suicune confronts you rather than you having to track it down.

Red March 15th, 2007 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2413439)
OK

there's not much of a point to make a johto remake. with a johto remake, they'll obviously have to add kanto to the game, and kanto has already been remade if you remember (FR/LG). also, ALL the pokemon can be caught in D/P except for a couple legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, which can be caught on FR/LG with the necessary Nintendo Event item(s).

hate to break it to you, but there's just no point. the only explanation for the timeline reference to Johto is because they're trying to make the most sense out of the game -- they weren't going to include Kanto and Hoenn and just totally ignore Johto as if it's not an actual region in the world of Pokemon. remember, with D/P, they are trying to bring all of the elements of the game together, so they're including EVERYTHING into the games.

Lugia can be caught without a nintendo event in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness and Ho-oh can be caught in Pokémon Colosseum also without a nintendo event. They then can be transfered to any of the 3rd generation games after being purified.

Yes, and it would be awesome if they did make a G/S remake. I hope they do, they don't need any of that cliché crap added to the storyline. R/B had a few changes added to the main storyline, mainly changing original text and incorporating new features into the storyline.
I think that the G/S remake will never have most of those things that Crystal Walrein asked for. And, of course the remake would start with you only having access to the first 251 pokémon/pokédex and then you get the national dex once you beaat the elite four and later on gain the ability to trade with some previous games.

charizard_maa March 15th, 2007 3:09 PM

I would like to have a GSC remake on the DS. THe time of the GBA has pass and I think the pokemon games developers have relize that with the Mystery Dungeon Fire. What I like to see is that they give it the update like they did with FRLG but get rid of the Kanto part of the game.

To me GSC was good because of the idea of Night/Day and the Love thing but it was ruin because your time in Johto was short and the addition of the Kanto League. If GSC was mostly focus on Johto like RSE was on Hoenn then I would fall in love for the idea of a GSC remake on DS.

Dudedude March 15th, 2007 5:39 PM

Ok...You say DP is here to sum everything up?
MAYBE IN JAPAN!!!
YEAH!!JAPANESE HAVE GOT IT GOOD!!WONDERFUL EVENTS!!THE ABILITY TO CATCH EM ALL!!

Americans too....but at least not as bad as Japanese.

Wad about me and the others from South East Asia and other regions?We dont have the money to got to NY or Japan whenever there is an event.We dun have Lugia, Ho-Oh, Mew, Jirachi, Deoxys and all that crap.

Look at this pattern:
Gameboy:1st Gen(RBY)
Gameboy Colour:2nd Gen(GSC)
Gameboy Advance: 3rd Gen(RSE) + 1st Gen Remake.

So chances are....

Nintendo DS: 4th Gen(DP?) + 2nd Gen Remake
New handheld console: 5th Gen + Possible 3rd Gen remake
And so on and so forth...

This way..by including the different event pokemon slowly into the games.It may be finally be able to actually catch em all.

Samson March 15th, 2007 10:04 PM

yes... let's catch all the pokes!! but you don't need a G/S/C remake for that, which is why there's no point. all of the pokemon are available in D/P and with the help of having FR/LG and R/S/E, you can fill up the dex. there's no point when D/P is for the DS... sure, it'd be fun!! ._., but thinking logically, there perhaps will not be one considering EVERYTHING is available in D/P.

so all i'm saying is don't get your hopes up. a timeline reference doesn't prove much.

Prince Roserade March 16th, 2007 2:33 AM

I would absolutely love a GSC remake. However, I would not want big changes in the storyline. I never played GSC so I'd like to get a chance to play a modern version, as similar as the old one as possible. ^^;;

ss5vegeta March 16th, 2007 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2414065)
yes... let's catch all the pokes!! but you don't need a G/S/C remake for that, which is why there's no point. all of the pokemon are available in D/P and with the help of having FR/LG and R/S/E, you can fill up the dex. there's no point when D/P is for the DS... sure, it'd be fun!! ._., but thinking logically, there perhaps will not be one considering EVERYTHING is available in D/P.

so all i'm saying is don't get your hopes up. a timeline reference doesn't prove much.

Like I said they made Yellow and Crystal which didant add any new pokemon.

And Emerald even added pokemon you could previously catch in colo and not in R/S.

Samson March 16th, 2007 9:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ss5vegeta (Post 2414337)
Like I said they made Yellow and Crystal which didant add any new pokemon.

And Emerald even added pokemon you could previously catch in colo and not in R/S.

yes, but the gameplay in yellow and crystal were different, if you don't remember. there's a big difference between the events in Yellow and R/B, while Crystal introduced both female and male trainers. also, crystal had some exclusive qualities, but the gameplay wasn't much different, which explains why Crystal only came out less than a year after Gold and Silver. Emerald... you already stated the difference, and some other factors are that there are exclusive qualities in emerald. emerald came out in Japan around 1 and a half years after Ruby and Sapphire released in Japan.

Bomberman March 16th, 2007 1:34 PM

I'd love a G/S remake, but not so soon.... give it a couple years after the 3rd version of DP comes out, I say.

Cornicapus March 16th, 2007 2:56 PM

I would like a G/S remake too but i hated Fr/Lg so i hope IF they make a remake i hope they make Hoenn pokemon catchable. Also they should scrap most of the gay features they had in Fr/Lg e.g: when you play your save it recounts what you did last.

ss5vegeta March 17th, 2007 10:43 AM

7/8 people want a Pokemon G/S remake.

ss5vegeta March 18th, 2007 6:18 AM

What do you think about getting Kanto starters?

Shiny Umbreon March 18th, 2007 7:39 AM

It's impossible that there will be a G/S remake now because you wouldn't need that, and it getting Lugia/Ho-oh from XD/C or Events would have been a waste, as you can get it so easily here.

And if it's not now, definitely, it won't be in the future because the storyline wouldn't fit.

ss5vegeta March 18th, 2007 7:50 AM

Have you read any post in this topic?

Bliksem March 18th, 2007 9:42 AM

Even though I enjoyed the GSC games, there's no point in remaking them. Why take steps backwards? It's not healthy for the franchise to continue to remake old games. What I *would* like is to travel back to Johto again. But I'm not one of those 'OMG, every region in the game' people. Johto was skimped in GSC because the game focused a bit on Kanto as well. I'd like a more in-depth look at the region... preferably with harder gym leaders.

Endless_Winters March 18th, 2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bliksem (Post 2416647)
Even though I enjoyed the GSC games, there's no point in remaking them. Why take steps backwards? It's not healthy for the franchise to continue to remake old games. What I *would* like is to travel back to Johto again. But I'm not one of those 'OMG, every region in the game' people. Johto was skimped in GSC because the game focused a bit on Kanto as well. I'd like a more in-depth look at the region... preferably with harder gym leaders.

If the fanbase and market of the franchise is BEGGING for a remake, believe me it will be nothing but healthy for the franchise. Its sort of like a supply and demand thing. If your fanbase is begging for a remake, that means guaranteed profit. As to whether or not they DO remake GSC and even as to what they include in it, or how they connect it to the fourth gen, etc, thats really up to them and what they think will suit the game best.
And I do agree with you on the point of toughening up the gym leaders and such. For the most part, the pokemon fans that have played every generation or who consider themselves "Pokemon Veterans" will more than likely support the remakes. Newcomers, Im sure, might try the remake, but would more than likely just pick up the newest, coolest game. Im sure those who have spent time EV training and improving their pokemon team would appreciate those tougher battles, as they WILL probably be the main market for a remake.
I am personally looking forward to a remake sometime in the future as I did love the Johto region, and it's pokemon.. And I really believe that with better graphics, more bells and whistles and more attention to detail, the story could really come alive again. Whether it be on the GBA (for the sake of keeping the "feel" of the game the same - ie: no touch screen or dual screen features) the DS (to allow connectivity between the DP games) or a NEW handheld console, I will purchase a copy for myself.

pikachulover306 March 18th, 2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Endless_Winters (Post 2416692)
If the fanbase and market of the franchise is BEGGING for a remake, believe me it will be nothing but healthy for the franchise. Its sort of like a supply and demand thing. If your fanbase is begging for a remake, that means guaranteed profit. As to whether or not they DO remake GSC and even as to what they include in it, or how they connect it to the fourth gen, etc, thats really up to them and what they think will suit the game best.
And I do agree with you on the point of toughening up the gym leaders and such. For the most part, the pokemon fans that have played every generation or who consider themselves "Pokemon Veterans" will more than likely support the remakes. Newcomers, Im sure, might try the remake, but would more than likely just pick up the newest, coolest game. Im sure those who have spent time EV training and improving their pokemon team would appreciate those tougher battles, as they WILL probably be the main market for a remake.
I am personally looking forward to a remake sometime in the future as I did love the Johto region, and it's pokemon.. And I really believe that with better graphics, more bells and whistles and more attention to detail, the story could really come alive again. Whether it be on the GBA (for the sake of keeping the "feel" of the game the same - ie: no touch screen or dual screen features) the DS (to allow connectivity between the DP games) or a NEW handheld console, I will purchase a copy for myself.

That is true becasue if they do make a remake it will be awsome and they would make so much money off of it becasue I know I would buy a copy.

Dudedude March 18th, 2007 11:59 PM

Reasons why there would be a GS Remake(to boost the morale of those fans)
1.EVERY FKING FAN IS DEMADING ONE!!LOOK AT POKEMON.COM'S MAILBOX!
2.The Johto Manga was the best....
3.The Johto Saga was the best...
4.The game were the best pokemon games up to date.
5.Game Freak want money$$$
6.The Pokemon Company wants money$$$
7.Nintendo wants money$$$

Oh and to the idiot who said all pokemon can be captured in DP, listen to this quote

Quote:

Like I said they made Yellow and Crystal which didant add any new pokemon.

And Emerald even added pokemon you could previously catch in colo and not in R/S.
__________________
DP Pokedex can oly be completed if u have:
a. A GameCube
b. SUPER ADDICTION TO POKEMON AND GET ALL POKEMON IN THE TWO GC GAMES.
c. Loads of money to go overseas.

A remake would make a and b almost completely unneasacery!(sorry for spelling error)

So yeah...GSC REMAKE will come...you can bet on that!

Paranoia March 19th, 2007 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dudedude (Post 2417298)
DP Pokedex can oly be completed if u have:
a. A GameCube
b. SUPER ADDICTION TO POKEMON AND GET ALL POKEMON IN THE TWO GC GAMES.
c. Loads of money to go overseas.

Yeah, about that, thats not entirely true, because of the new glitch (or old) discovered in Emerald which enables you to clone pokemons, people would clone their UBER rare Lugia, Ho-oh, Celebi etc, etc, and trade them over GTS, so infact, you can get all the pokemon on D/P, it'll just take awhile

Bliksem March 19th, 2007 7:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dudedude (Post 2417298)
Reasons why there would be a GS Remake(to boost the morale of those fans)
1.EVERY FKING FAN IS DEMADING ONE!!LOOK AT POKEMON.COM'S MAILBOX! Not every one
2.The Johto Manga was the best.... Opinion
3.The Johto Saga was the best... Opinion
4.The game were the best pokemon games up to date. Opinion
5.Game Freak want money$$$ Fact
6.The Pokemon Company wants money$$$ Fact
7.Nintendo wants money$$$ Fact

Oh and to the idiot who said all pokemon can be captured in DP, listen to this quote
Third installment games; not remakes. Read what I say as well.


DP Pokedex can oly be completed if u have:
a. A GameCube
b. SUPER ADDICTION TO POKEMON AND GET ALL POKEMON IN THE TWO GC GAMES.
c. Loads of money to go overseas.
d. The Global Trade Center, allowing you to trade with any of the above. For the record, event Pokemon will always be event Pokemon. Adding new games will not make these Pokemon obtainable. See: Emerald (Deoxys, Mew, Ho-Oh, Lugia)

A remake would make a and b almost completely unneasacery!(sorry for spelling error)
A and B are already unnecessary.
So yeah...GSC REMAKE will come...you can bet on that!

Comments in bold. GSC is implausible.

The Silver Kitty March 19th, 2007 7:53 AM

a pokemon gold and silver remake would be great! what i don't get is why every one and their grandma wants to stop it I mean its not like you have to buy it

Auron March 19th, 2007 8:53 AM

But...

In Emerald you can get the Johto Starters...Why ?? Because there is no another way...So...A remake is unlikely probable.

Anyways, if there is a G/S/C remake, I would like the Celebi event to be available.

ss5vegeta March 19th, 2007 9:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Auron (Post 2417527)
Anyways, if there is a G/S/C remake, I would like the Celebi event to be available.

that's what I forgot to say, and it makes perfect sense for a Celebi event.

But what other events would there be? Other games have more then 1.

Mabey a new deoxys?

Bliksem March 19th, 2007 9:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Silver Kitty (Post 2417481)
a pokemon gold and silver remake would be great! what i don't get is why every one and their grandma wants to stop it I mean its not like you have to buy it

We don't want to 'stop' it. We're arguing against its chances of becoming a game. If GSC were to be remade, would we be disappointed? Most of us, no (I'd be a little perturbed that they were taking steps backwards instead of progressing forward, but that's besides the point). The fact of the matter is that those on the aggressive side of the this debate are saying that wishing for a remake is a waste of time because of how unlikely it is. For an extreme example, it'd be like asking for a mature version of Pokemon with guns and blood. Probably not going to happen.

Other than the legendaries absent from DP, how could you even offer any more event Pokemon when all Pokemon are already availible? It's *fully* possible to obtain 490 Pokemon in this game; Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus being this game's event Pokemon (Manaphy's already been released, and Phione comes with it) are the only ones that aren't currently obtainable. All three Pokemon are locked somewhere within the game.

A GSC remake would offer nothing in terms of Pokemon. There are no event Pokemon that would be any easier to obtain than they already are. When you look at Emerald and all the extra Pokemon it had, realize that, even though the game had Pokemon unobtainable before (like Mew), you *still* had to go to an event to get one. Mew, for example, wasn't even UNLOCKED in the game. Toys R' Us did trades, giving out Mews rather than Old Sea Maps.

ss5vegeta March 19th, 2007 10:24 AM

In most countries you can't get to events, in England we have only ever had 1 Deoxys event which was to far away for me.

Bliksem March 19th, 2007 8:04 PM

Then in most countries, you're SOL. The new games wouldn't because, guess what, you'd probably need an event to unlock what you're trying to get.

There's a reason for the GTS. With the *global* trade system, you can get any Pokemon you want; there's no need for a remake for that reason.

So far, the *only* viable reason that proponents of a remake have produced is nostalgia, which I'm continuing to insist is just a step-backwards until someone can prove me wrong.

Innagadadavida March 19th, 2007 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Silver Kitty (Post 2417481)
a pokemon gold and silver remake would be great! what i don't get is why every one and their grandma wants to stop it I mean its not like you have to buy it

It gives Nintendo an excuse NOT to come out with some new Pokemon games.

Auron March 20th, 2007 8:57 AM

And...Compatibility with Battle Revolution, of course, and compatibility between games of different languages.

JohnBoy617 March 20th, 2007 8:35 PM

They really have to make a remake of this, seriously. When I first got the game when I was young, I had fun playing it and it reminds me of the good times I had. I would think the playable trainer actually looks like me >_>

But he kinda does.

piplupbetterthanturwigandchimchar March 21st, 2007 1:19 PM

In g/s you go back to kanto, so why havn't we been able to go to other regions in games such as emerald, fr/lg and r/s. I think that nintendo is like traffic people in calgary. Make more changes for the worse. But d/p will rock

Bomberman March 21st, 2007 6:07 PM

I was thinking today, it'd be better if they made a completely new game set in Johto/Kanto. You know, new characters & Pokes, same places, but everything from G/S has changed in the 8 years.

Innagadadavida March 21st, 2007 7:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomberman (Post 2419317)
I was thinking today, it'd be better if they made a completely new game set in Johto/Kanto. You know, new characters & Pokes, same places, but everything from G/S has changed in the 8 years.

This is actually a really great idea. I hope they do do that.


Hah, I said do do.

Bliksem March 22nd, 2007 12:50 AM

I can't see them returning to Kanto anytime soon. What you'll end up with is another game with watered down versions of both regions. This is a *fact* that can't really be disputed, I think. A game that focuses just on Johto will have more content and depth in Johto than if Kanto reappeared.

StarLife March 22nd, 2007 10:48 AM

I Want a G/S/C Remake Badly!
I Hope The Storyline Get Better.( It Was Excellent Before )

AC March 22nd, 2007 6:22 PM

To tell you the truth I enjoyed the G/S/C over any other generation due to the storyline wasnt that cheesy, I like the starters unlike in R/S/E (torchic being the only one thats ok),plus it seems like they are running out of ideas on making new Pokemon they are starting to look to kiddish and yes that includes some Pokemon from R/S/E and D/P. So I do belive that was the best generation. I also agree that if they do have a remake that only tweeks to the storyline not major changes be done to it. Also a little off topic I have a feeling D/P will be sorta dissapointing. I do not mean the gameplay it does look pretty cool plus I love the Day/Night effects (another thing good about G/S/C) but like I said before the new Pokemon are kinda dissapointing I really dont like any of the starters and others seem like a 8-year old kid made them. So a G/S/C remake would be perfect. =)

Ledgend of the UnKnOwns March 24th, 2007 6:58 AM

A Gold/Silver/Crystal remake would be awsome! I would buy one! but I dont think nintendo would bite. They have something weird about G/S/C....

Ledgend of the UnKnOwns March 24th, 2007 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 2421560)
And what would that be? The Pokémon Company has already acknowledged in official statements that many fans want remakes.

Oh. I didn't know that. I should have done more investigating first. Sorry about that.

Dudedude March 24th, 2007 8:41 PM

The Writers/GameFreak/Nintendo/The Pokemon Compnay...all love GSC.

One si ple reson: What was the first ever pokemon except Pikachu that we saw in the anime?

Aswer: Ho-Oh.

They love GSC. They just want to torture us.

I wont be surprised if they release information on it only one day b4 they even release it.

Green Charizard March 25th, 2007 1:14 AM

Yeah they should do one. How hard is it for them to do. They already have the basic system built with Diamond and Pearl, they have all the storyline, it's not like it's a big job like it was with Diamond and Pearl, they can just edit it like they did with R/S to make FR/LG. Nintendo would be daft not to make it.

Thunderdash March 25th, 2007 3:21 AM

if there do a G/S remake it should be on the GBA cause u can trade with Fr/Lg easy than if it was on DS

ss5vegeta March 25th, 2007 3:38 AM

It should be on DS but dont use PAL park and can trade back.

Bomberman March 25th, 2007 6:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudedude (Post 2422198)
One si ple reson: What was the first ever pokemon except Pikachu that we saw in the anime?

I thought it was Gengar :P

Kirokusclone March 25th, 2007 6:50 AM

heres a thought, what if instead of goin to Kanto, you go to Hoenn?

Pokemon Master D-P March 25th, 2007 7:59 AM

just get pokemon shiny gold

Empires228 March 25th, 2007 8:47 AM

They should make one but Change some of the things such as safari that were taken out because of glitches and not enough memory.

Forci Stikane March 25th, 2007 9:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudedude (Post 2422198)
One si ple reson: What was the first ever pokemon except Pikachu that we saw in the anime?

Gengar, Nidorino, Onix, Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Pidgey (in the form of a toy), Dodrio (I believe)...

Pidgey (for real this time), Rattata, Spearow, Mankey, and a few others...I think there was even a Gyarados in there...so, am I right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudedude
Aswer: Ho-Oh.

......Boy, you were REALLY off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss5vegeta
It should be on DS but dont use PAL park and can trade back.

Uh, no. That could cause severe compatability problems, especially since R/S/E/FR/LG aren't programmed to be able to handle a Time Capsule-type thing (which is what it would have to be).

ss5vegeta March 26th, 2007 10:05 AM

I dont realy care about trading, but they wouldent use a in game (obviously not real) time machine, D/P is set just before G/S because of the Red Gyarados report so D/P would of had to have a time machine.
That would mean G/S isant years after FR/LG, and Green and Red would of lookedalot older in the originals.

And the Safari zone should be unlocked after beating all 16 gyms and getting the National Dex it should house some Hoenn pokemon and another area should contain the 4th gen pokes.

Kirokusclone March 27th, 2007 2:50 AM

then if you want the hownn and Sinnoh pokemon, their shuld either be the safari zone, plus another one, or prehaps an addition, much like what happened in emerald

Taemin March 27th, 2007 6:17 AM

Man, if they really did make a remake of G/S/C the graphics might even be slightly better then the D/P graphics, because it probably wouldn't be out until like .... 2009. oO
Intresting to think about it...

I wish they would actually remake them, that'd be awesome... and more amusing then a Mystery Dungeon 2...

~NeonFire~ March 27th, 2007 8:18 AM

I wouldn't mind a remake of all the GBC and GBA games for DS, but I would much rather see new Pokemon games instead.

typeZERO March 30th, 2007 6:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichapokemr (Post 2422612)
Gengar, Nidorino, Onix, Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Pidgey (in the form of a toy), Dodrio (I believe)...

Pidgey (for real this time), Rattata, Spearow, Mankey, and a few others...I think there was even a Gyarados in there...so, am I right?



......Boy, you were REALLY off.



Uh, no. That could cause severe compatability problems, especially since R/S/E/FR/LG aren't programmed to be able to handle a Time Capsule-type thing (which is what it would have to be).

Hey don't forget the voltorb! (as a clock) And maybe the trading system would be just like D/P's? You know , insert game into gba slot and then trade from there (heck they could add the function where you insert a certain game and certain pokemon pop up in the wild. Just like D/P). And plus I wonder what the Johto and Kanto pokemon sprites will look like , since FR/LG had new Kanto sprites.

Master Trainer Empoleon March 30th, 2007 7:18 PM

My cousin and I used to have extreme competitions. (I had Silver and Yellow,he had Red,Blue and Gold). His Typhlosion pwnd my Feralagatr. (It knew thunderpunch) My Umbreon pwnd his Espeon. His Scizor pwnd my Pidgeot. His Golem pwned my Macargo.
My Lugia pwnd his Ho-oh.



Anyways,I think a remake would be awesome,and insted of 1 or 2 rivals there should be 3 or 4 rivals.

wmoor0826 April 6th, 2007 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2413439)
OK

there's not much of a point to make a johto remake. with a johto remake, they'll obviously have to add kanto to the game, and kanto has already been remade if you remember (FR/LG). also, ALL the pokemon can be caught in D/P except for a couple legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, which can be caught on FR/LG with the necessary Nintendo Event item(s).

hate to break it to you, but there's just no point. the only explanation for the timeline reference to Johto is because they're trying to make the most sense out of the game -- they weren't going to include Kanto and Hoenn and just totally ignore Johto as if it's not an actual region in the world of Pokemon. remember, with D/P, they are trying to bring all of the elements of the game together, so they're including EVERYTHING into the games.

You can't catch every pokemon in d/p unless you have the older games like emerald or firered, which is hard for some people, because they sell the games or lose them after a while.

idontnoWHOiam April 7th, 2007 7:48 PM

I would buy a GSC remake, but I would much rather have a new game. There are some pokemon you can only get through PalPark that I really wish you could catch in the wild, like magnemite/ton-->magnezone, but you can't even get your 3rd gen pokemon until you see every sinnoh pokemon :\

Aquarain April 8th, 2007 8:52 PM

I wouldn't mind a G/S/C remake, I never really got to play the game(s) when they came out, so it would be great if they did make it, to have it in GBA or DS.

J April 11th, 2007 4:47 AM

"lol were gonna make u a pkmn gsc remake so u can catch all teh gsc pkmn dat u got on ur emerald ver so we get all of ur money!!!1"

...Sounds logical to me.

Stevo-kun April 11th, 2007 5:57 AM

Nah, I don't think they should remake it, I mean, G/S/C was okay. I still think R/B/Y and R/S/E where better and well, it wouldn't be fair remaking it for the DS when all the other one just got a GBA remake. Yes FR and LG where really good, a great trip back, and a great remake, but, I don't think they should remake any more of them and just continue making new ones instead of remaking old ones. Being as Pokemon is in a new era, it would seem unfair to bring back second Generation games on a 4th Generation Pokemon Game console.

ChrisG14 April 11th, 2007 6:33 AM

Well, we shall see in on April 14, this magazine Kokoro comics will be talking about a new Pokemon game. We know of the new Pokemon Ranger game, but that might not be the game in question. So we shall see...

Mr.Altosax April 12th, 2007 1:30 PM

Personally, I believe that G/S/C was the best generation of pokemon so far. For one, you weren't "region locked", you didn't just have to stay in Johto you got to fight for the eight Kanto badges as well. Also they started the day/night feature, which hasn't been seen again until now. It's also the only game so far that brought in new types to the original mix. Where would we be now without Dark and Steel, or for that matter Umbreon and Espeon. The G/S brought in some of the greatest legendaries since Mewtwo, sure Rayquaza's cool but he's got nothing on Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, or the Legendary dogs.

R/B/Y got their remix, so I definetely think that this one deserves theirs.

Lt. Surge's Raichu April 12th, 2007 2:04 PM

Oh yeah!
I want i remake of those games :)
Crystal too ofcourse. As i played the most

acrof April 12th, 2007 2:06 PM

Actually, I don´t think we will get a G/S/C remake in this generation...
Mainly because all itens found on Gold and Silver should be in Diamond and Pearl.
Let me explain, Red and Green remakes were made because every item you could find in Red/Green were there in Ruby/Sapphire.
But now I don´t see FastBalls or LoveBalls, or apricorns, nor Silver wing, etc, in Diamond and Pearl.
So unless Nintendo update Pearl and Diamond someway there would be incompatibility between the remakes and D/P...
You will not be able to trade a pokemon holding a Silver Wing in the remakes to D/P for example.

Hope I´m wrong, and they use a system similar to Pokemon Stadium´s and block those itens before the trade...

Lil-Dill April 12th, 2007 2:46 PM

I think the only way they will have a remake is if D/P doesnt make much of a huge success or something like tht. OR... They could be desperate for munny aka Yen and make a remake. Those could be POSSIBLE. Highly Unlikely.

ss5vegeta April 13th, 2007 10:45 AM

And to all those people who think that they wont make it because we can already get all the Pokemon, what about Celebi?

Pichu52 April 13th, 2007 11:00 AM

I was thinking that I really, really wanted a remake of G/S/C because I thought it was the best Pokemon game that has been made...then I realised I just liked it because of the day/night feature and the Pokemon added, not so much the story line, etc. I think Nintendo could make a remake if they wanted too...but I don't think they would :cross-eye .

Rai April 13th, 2007 11:05 AM

I would love a Gold and Silver remake! Both my Gold and Silver broke and my Crystal has been missing for years... So yes. I would love remakes of them x3; Plus, they would probably be very fun ;D

Legacy April 13th, 2007 11:14 AM

I would love a G/S/C remake. I think Nintendo would be crazy not to do one, given how anticipated it is. Especially given how much Nintendo loves milking the Pokemon franchise.

linkinpark187 April 13th, 2007 12:03 PM

these are all very good ideas. here's what i think:

*Catch all but version specific Pokémon (you may not be able to catch Lugia/Ho-oh in Diamond & Pearl, but if there were remakes of the Gold & Silver series then they could be transfered from the remakes to Diamond & Pearl).

*Have all current and up to date TM's/HM's, and include Whirlpool.

*Bring back room decorations, and, should said player have a Wii, make online exclusive items available for your room for purchase with Wii points that you can transfer from the Wii to the Gold & Silver remake.

*Have backwards compatibility with the Ruby & Sapphire series and Fire Red and Leaf Green, but instead of Pal Park, actually allow trading between the two once the National Dex is obtained.

*Instead doing a remake of Kanto, why not this: The Orange Island League? Have you all forgotten about that season? It may be another set of badges to collect, but it replaces the redundancy of Kanto.

*Instead of calling the "main" characters Red and Blue, why not actually call them Ash and Gary?

*And why not bring Jesse and James into the picture instead of the same old Team Rocket? I think that was such an innovative idea when they came out with Yellow, and Nintendo should bring them back.

*Your Pokégear can be easily accessed on the second screen of the DS, making it much more convenient to access.

*And last but not least, the best idea ever in the Gold & Silver series was the Time Modifier. Because of the Nintendo DS's ability to acurately keep with the time and day of the week, a Gold & Silver remake would fit in perfect (plus it would save you all that time of the game asking you what time it is, what day it is, and if its daylight savings time or not).


Well, thats what I think. A Gold & Silver series remake would be the perfect addition to the Pokémon series.

ShadowLatios April 13th, 2007 1:21 PM

A G/S/C remake would be the greatest thing!! :)I support it
The best parts of G/S/C were the day/nighttime changes and the Pokegear
Nintendo could probably do it and all,given the demand.After all they made R/B/Y and the forgotten Johto region deserves its own.
This remake could have normal trading ability w/D/P and FR/LG/R/S/E once the national dex is obtained.Also it should be on ds and gba

Come on a remake would be awesome!!Crystal was definetly the best game back in the day.

Lt. Surge's Raichu April 13th, 2007 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil-Dill (Post 2444038)
I think the only way they will have a remake is if D/P doesnt make much of a huge success or something like tht. OR... They could be desperate for munny aka Yen and make a remake. Those could be POSSIBLE. Highly Unlikely.

Yeah, i agree :)
I think they will release remakes if the D/P doesn't sell that much

acrof April 13th, 2007 3:28 PM

Quote:

I was thinking that I really, really wanted a remake of G/S/C because I thought it was the best Pokemon game that has been made...then I realised I just liked it because of the day/night feature and the Pokemon added, not so much the story line, etc. I think Nintendo could make a remake if they wanted too...but I don't think they would .
Aren´t you forgetting about something?

Not only day/night system and new pokemons, but 2 new types, a lot of new pokeballs, first to introduce male and female characters (crystal), first to introduce animations in the pokemons in the handheld games (crystal) (and I have to say that
Crystal´s animations are way better than those on Emerald), first to introcduce held itens, etc........................

Some people say that pokegear is outdated, really?
If I remeber well you could upgrade it using cards, right?
So why not create a card that let it be touch sensitive, or a like a navigator?

About the story, it wasn´t that great because they don´t wanted.
G/S generation story line is the best, but in the anime, movies and others, my favorite movie is still Pokemon 2000.
And by the way they should focus on Ho-oh, the only legendary that don´t have a movie or a special episode, Lugia and Ho-oh legends are (for me) the best ones in the pokemon history.

wakachamo April 13th, 2007 3:50 PM

It would be great on the DS, and after D/P, it'd be awesome if Nintendo reconsidered it.

However, it's not going to happen, because you're all missing one very important point. As far as I'm concerned, Johto no longer exists anymore on the official side of things.

Johto has been replaced with Orre, and the Sevii Islands. We haven't heard anything about Johto ever since G/S/C, and my guess is we won't so soon either.

Forci Stikane April 13th, 2007 5:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrof (Post 2445279)
And by the way they should focus on Ho-oh, the only legendary that don´t have a movie or a special episode

No, it's just considered a god and pops up multiple times in the series, including when Ash first starts his journey and when he heads off to Hoenn. Yeah, it really needs more publicity >.>

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss5vegeta
And to all those people who think that they wont make it because we can already get all the Pokemon, what about Celebi?

What about it? You couldn't get it any more legitimately in GSC than you can now.

Kayota April 13th, 2007 6:06 PM

I'd love it, but how would my current team get to it? D8 Other than that, YES YES TOTALLY.

Dudedude April 14th, 2007 1:09 AM

Yay... if there is a remake..I can get back my favourite shiny Gyrados...Woohoo!

ChrisG14 April 14th, 2007 4:31 PM

Is it possible?

If you look at the thumbnails and click on them...

Ladies and Gentlemen... we've got ourselves a remake, no fooling! :cool:

Senerio April 14th, 2007 5:29 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, we have someone not helping the situation of a true Gold and Silver remake. Your applauses please.

ShadowEmperor93 April 14th, 2007 5:42 PM

Hmm..i do want an official remake of G/S/C - those were one of the best pokemon games because of the day/night feature - the pokemon, wasn't region locked and the music. I hope Nintendo does it sometime in this generation...

Dudedude April 14th, 2007 6:01 PM

Ho...ho...holy....****!!

THOSE SCREENS!!! IMPOSSIBLE>>>BUT THEY SEEMM......
FREAKIN REAL!

Innagadadavida April 14th, 2007 7:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisG14 (Post 2446594)
Is it possible?

If you look at the thumbnails and click on them...

Ladies and Gentlemen... we've got ourselves a remake, no fooling! :cool:

That pretty much settles it.

I was one of the six who voted at first that they should focus on new games only. But, I actually pretty excited about the remakes.


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