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ss5vegeta March 13th, 2007 9:35 AM

Gold and Silver remake
 
Diamond and Pearl have timeline refrences to Gold, Silver and Crystal, the mention of Red Gyarados, which is still there so G/S/C hasant happened yet.

Jasmine is also in the game and gives you a HM.

So there should be a G/S remake on DS like they did with R/B with R/S and it should be 4th generation.

Some D/P legendaries should be catchable like Hiidoran and the Psychic female Pokemon.

It shouldent be left out! Many people say it was the best generation ever.

Sakuya March 13th, 2007 11:55 AM

I wouldn't mind a G/S/C remake on the DS. As long as it keeps the FR/LG graphics. :/ I wouldn't want a remake with the D/P graphics. It's like an uber remake and that wasn't what R/B/Y got. Though Crystal is one of my favorite GB games ever, I want it treated and remade the same way as R/B/Y.

Drifblim March 13th, 2007 12:20 PM

I'm all for a remake. However, I'm angling for the following:
  • All 386 third-generation Pokémon, compatibility with Pal Park on Diamond and Pearl as well as Dash and Link, and capability to trade over the DS
  • A change in storyline: Have Giovanni come back after the Radio Tower incident and anger Lugia (Silver) or Ho-oh (Gold), à la Ruby and Sapphire, and raise the levels to 50 and 70
  • A battle frontier to replace the Crystal Battle Tower
  • Union Rooms, Berry Powder, minigames, and Battle Card compatibility (remember the house in Mossdeep?)
  • Compatibility with Eon, Mystic, and Aurora tickets as well as the Old Sea Chart; design a ticket for Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza amidst an area where third-gen Pokémon can be found, and a ticket for finding Jirachi for once
  • Rematch Gym Leaders à la Emerald, and increased difficulty of Elite Four à la Fire Red and Leaf Green
  • TMs updated to RSE, with HM09 for Whirlpool
  • Move tutors scattered throughout
  • Contests and record mixing (to replace the Trainer House in Viridian)

ss5vegeta March 13th, 2007 12:37 PM

and 100 tm's.

Giovanni should appear in the battle frontier or something extra mabey the sevil islands, keep the story the same then add more like fr/lg he should appear with silver (father son reunion) and explain there relation ship. That would also make the end for Team Rocket a real end.

Include Blue as well as Red and Green.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ March 13th, 2007 2:42 PM

Whatever CW stated seems to much for a GSC remake. Yea I would like to see it, also all of the updates would make it confusion. I ask myself this question, is there going to be all 493 Pokemon in the game? If so how will this gradually change the GSC gameplay

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

Alakazam17 March 13th, 2007 7:09 PM

I'm guessing it'll be like FrLg, in that you can only get the first 251 Pokemon in it, and, after defeating the Elite Four, you would then be able to get access to the entire 493 Pokemon.

ss5vegeta March 14th, 2007 2:11 AM

The National Dex should be obtained from Oak after beating the pokemon League and getting the 8 Kanto badges.

Drifblim March 14th, 2007 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ss5vegeta (Post 2412145)
The National Dex should be obtained from Oak after beating the pokemon League and getting the 8 Kanto badges.

Try after Red. And while we're at it we can dock his down a few levels, maybe 70 for his Pikachu.

Bkue March 14th, 2007 3:36 PM

Best One? Its been a while since I've played G/S/C but I thought it was the WORST. I had to import pokemon from R/B/Y To beat the Elite four.

But - I trained unevenly back then, so thats probably part of the reason. I might just restart it now.

ChrisG14 March 14th, 2007 3:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bkue (Post 2412717)
Best One? Its been a while since I've played G/S/C but I thought it was the WORST. I had to import pokemon from R/B/Y To beat the Elite four.

But - I trained unevenly back then, so thats probably part of the reason. I might just restart it now.

You couldn't beat the G/S/C Elite 4? The "I can take a couple of level 40s and a guy with Ice Beam" Elite 4?

Bkue March 14th, 2007 4:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisG14 (Post 2412723)
You couldn't beat the G/S/C Elite 4? The "I can take a couple of level 40s and a guy with Ice Beam" Elite 4?

Yea that one =P I even had a strategy guide and I couldnt beat it XD. I think I trained unevenly though, And then training up a lapras to own them got really boring.

Dudedude March 14th, 2007 5:37 PM

Lol...that was wierd..GSC was ze best generation ever!
A remake would be excellent.

Innagadadavida March 14th, 2007 5:56 PM

As much as I loved G/S/C I'd really prefer they make new games. Perhaps a Pokemon game where you can travel between Kanto, Johto, Hohen, Shinnoh, and Orre all on the same game. They could take out all of that "Save the world from Team (insert cheesy cliché here)" and just focus on making a great game that isn't notoriously short (like every game so far) where the goal is to actually catch 'em all! Gotta' catch 'em all.

Shiny Umbreon March 14th, 2007 7:00 PM

Ok. Too much things for being called a remake.

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Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
All 386 third-generation Pokémon, compatibility with Pal Park on Diamond and Pearl as well as Dash and Link, and capability to trade over the DS

Obviously compatible with D/P and the GBA games. Dash? Why? Link? What's that?

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Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
A change in storyline: Have Giovanni come back after the Radio Tower incident and anger Lugia (Silver) or Ho-oh (Gold), à la Ruby and Sapphire, and raise the levels to 50 and 70

Please, no changing in the storyline. Giovanni has already left in FR/LG. Also, levels are put to 40 (not 50) so you get a Pokémon with more attacks and easier to train. That's why the Pokémon not featured in your game is in level 70! It doesn't have Sacred Fire or Aeroblast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
A battle frontier to replace the Crystal Battle Tower

Please, not another Battle Frontier!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Union Rooms, Berry Powder, minigames, and Battle Card compatibility (remember the house in Mossdeep?)

Union Room, minigames, blah blah blah are okay. They need to get updated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Compatibility with Eon, Mystic, and Aurora tickets as well as the Old Sea Chart; design a ticket for Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza amidst an area where third-gen Pokémon can be found, and a ticket for finding Jirachi for once

Again, no changing the storyline. Though the Old Sea Chart could work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Rematch Gym Leaders à la Emerald, and increased difficulty of Elite Four à la Fire Red and Leaf Green

Totally agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
TMs updated to RSE, with HM09 for Whirlpool

Of course TMs need to be updated or trading them to D/P would be a mess. And Obviously Whirpool shoudl be there. It could be HM06, since you can't trade HMs anyway. (If you notice, D/P has different HMs than the Advance Generation)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Move tutors scattered throughout

It's OK.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Walrein (Post 2411481)
Contests and record mixing (to replace the Trainer House in Viridian)

NO CONTESTS. Leave that to Hoenn or Sinnoh. Have you seen contests in FR/LG? So why put them in a G/S/C remake. By the way, the trainer house in Viridian City could be replaced with a building for Wi-Fi battles and stuff.


Yeah, it would be great. *Comes back to reality* But Nintendo will never do that unless they make another game where some Pokémon are missing (like R/S/E) It's not going to be for the DS for sure but we have the hope they'll do it one day.

ss5vegeta March 15th, 2007 2:52 AM

It will be for the DS, not GBA.

Auron March 15th, 2007 9:43 AM

Damn right !! G/S were two really good games (And Crystal was...Uff...Something really cool). I think they deserve to be remaked, and they are the only ones who aren't remaked...I hope Nintendo hear our plies xD

Samson March 15th, 2007 11:22 AM

OK

there's not much of a point to make a johto remake. with a johto remake, they'll obviously have to add kanto to the game, and kanto has already been remade if you remember (FR/LG). also, ALL the pokemon can be caught in D/P except for a couple legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, which can be caught on FR/LG with the necessary Nintendo Event item(s).

hate to break it to you, but there's just no point. the only explanation for the timeline reference to Johto is because they're trying to make the most sense out of the game -- they weren't going to include Kanto and Hoenn and just totally ignore Johto as if it's not an actual region in the world of Pokemon. remember, with D/P, they are trying to bring all of the elements of the game together, so they're including EVERYTHING into the games.

ChrisG14 March 15th, 2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2413439)
OK

there's not much of a point to make a johto remake. with a johto remake, they'll obviously have to add kanto to the game, and kanto has already been remade if you remember (FR/LG). also, ALL the pokemon can be caught in D/P except for a couple legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, which can be caught on FR/LG with the necessary Nintendo Event item(s).

hate to break it to you, but there's just no point. the only explanation for the timeline reference to Johto is because they're trying to make the most sense out of the game -- they weren't going to include Kanto and Hoenn and just totally ignore Johto as if it's not an actual region in the world of Pokemon. remember, with D/P, they are trying to bring all of the elements of the game together, so they're including EVERYTHING into the games.

So what is your saying is that there will never EVER, be a Johto remake? They'll remake the original but the 2nd Generation isn't good enough? And we aren't talking about catching Pokemon, we're just talking about a remake.

ss5vegeta March 15th, 2007 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2413439)
OK

there's not much of a point to make a johto remake. with a johto remake, they'll obviously have to add kanto to the game, and kanto has already been remade if you remember (FR/LG). also, ALL the pokemon can be caught in D/P except for a couple legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, which can be caught on FR/LG with the necessary Nintendo Event item(s).

hate to break it to you, but there's just no point. the only explanation for the timeline reference to Johto is because they're trying to make the most sense out of the game -- they weren't going to include Kanto and Hoenn and just totally ignore Johto as if it's not an actual region in the world of Pokemon. remember, with D/P, they are trying to bring all of the elements of the game together, so they're including EVERYTHING into the games.

So that means they was no point of making a yellow, crystal or emerald, but they did.

So dont rule it out just yet.

TB Pro March 15th, 2007 2:40 PM

I think it would be great to have a remake of G/S it was an awesome generation! the best if you ask me.I don't see why nintendo would remake R/B but neglect poor G/S.Also as Sampson said that they would have to remake Kanto as well well lets see in FR/LG they added on the Battle Tower,Tutored Moves,and the Sevii Islands so they could convert the Kanto Region over to something else like the Sevii Islands but a little different.maybe add a Series of Islands that Each had its own gym And a certain handful of pokes that you could only catch there.Like ones off of Hoenn like the Sevii Islands and G/S pokes.
O_o

Bkue March 15th, 2007 2:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auron (Post 2413367)
Damn right !! G/S were two really good games (And Crystal was...Uff...Something really cool). I think they deserve to be remaked, and they are the only ones who aren't remaked...I hope Nintendo hear our plies xD

So now, How exactly is Crystal any different than G/S? The only difference I see is a battle tower, it actually tells you where you are instead of changing the music, and the choice of a boy or a girl. (Quote me if I forgot something) And thats bad how? Yes I agree that suicune sucks compared to Lugia and Ho-Ho. But thats more of an opinion.

Innagadadavida March 15th, 2007 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bkue (Post 2413686)
So now, How exactly is Crystal any different than G/S? The only difference I see is a battle tower, it actually tells you where you are instead of changing the music, and the choice of a boy or a girl. (Quote me if I forgot something) And thats bad how? Yes I agree that suicune sucks compared to Lugia and Ho-Ho. But thats more of an opinion.


In Crystal, there were several additional cut scenes with Suicune. Also, Suicune confronts you rather than you having to track it down.

Red March 15th, 2007 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2413439)
OK

there's not much of a point to make a johto remake. with a johto remake, they'll obviously have to add kanto to the game, and kanto has already been remade if you remember (FR/LG). also, ALL the pokemon can be caught in D/P except for a couple legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, which can be caught on FR/LG with the necessary Nintendo Event item(s).

hate to break it to you, but there's just no point. the only explanation for the timeline reference to Johto is because they're trying to make the most sense out of the game -- they weren't going to include Kanto and Hoenn and just totally ignore Johto as if it's not an actual region in the world of Pokemon. remember, with D/P, they are trying to bring all of the elements of the game together, so they're including EVERYTHING into the games.

Lugia can be caught without a nintendo event in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness and Ho-oh can be caught in Pokémon Colosseum also without a nintendo event. They then can be transfered to any of the 3rd generation games after being purified.

Yes, and it would be awesome if they did make a G/S remake. I hope they do, they don't need any of that cliché crap added to the storyline. R/B had a few changes added to the main storyline, mainly changing original text and incorporating new features into the storyline.
I think that the G/S remake will never have most of those things that Crystal Walrein asked for. And, of course the remake would start with you only having access to the first 251 pokémon/pokédex and then you get the national dex once you beaat the elite four and later on gain the ability to trade with some previous games.

charizard_maa March 15th, 2007 3:09 PM

I would like to have a GSC remake on the DS. THe time of the GBA has pass and I think the pokemon games developers have relize that with the Mystery Dungeon Fire. What I like to see is that they give it the update like they did with FRLG but get rid of the Kanto part of the game.

To me GSC was good because of the idea of Night/Day and the Love thing but it was ruin because your time in Johto was short and the addition of the Kanto League. If GSC was mostly focus on Johto like RSE was on Hoenn then I would fall in love for the idea of a GSC remake on DS.

Dudedude March 15th, 2007 5:39 PM

Ok...You say DP is here to sum everything up?
MAYBE IN JAPAN!!!
YEAH!!JAPANESE HAVE GOT IT GOOD!!WONDERFUL EVENTS!!THE ABILITY TO CATCH EM ALL!!

Americans too....but at least not as bad as Japanese.

Wad about me and the others from South East Asia and other regions?We dont have the money to got to NY or Japan whenever there is an event.We dun have Lugia, Ho-Oh, Mew, Jirachi, Deoxys and all that crap.

Look at this pattern:
Gameboy:1st Gen(RBY)
Gameboy Colour:2nd Gen(GSC)
Gameboy Advance: 3rd Gen(RSE) + 1st Gen Remake.

So chances are....

Nintendo DS: 4th Gen(DP?) + 2nd Gen Remake
New handheld console: 5th Gen + Possible 3rd Gen remake
And so on and so forth...

This way..by including the different event pokemon slowly into the games.It may be finally be able to actually catch em all.


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