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Samson March 15th, 2007 10:04 PM

yes... let's catch all the pokes!! but you don't need a G/S/C remake for that, which is why there's no point. all of the pokemon are available in D/P and with the help of having FR/LG and R/S/E, you can fill up the dex. there's no point when D/P is for the DS... sure, it'd be fun!! ._., but thinking logically, there perhaps will not be one considering EVERYTHING is available in D/P.

so all i'm saying is don't get your hopes up. a timeline reference doesn't prove much.

Prince Roserade March 16th, 2007 2:33 AM

I would absolutely love a GSC remake. However, I would not want big changes in the storyline. I never played GSC so I'd like to get a chance to play a modern version, as similar as the old one as possible. ^^;;

ss5vegeta March 16th, 2007 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2414065)
yes... let's catch all the pokes!! but you don't need a G/S/C remake for that, which is why there's no point. all of the pokemon are available in D/P and with the help of having FR/LG and R/S/E, you can fill up the dex. there's no point when D/P is for the DS... sure, it'd be fun!! ._., but thinking logically, there perhaps will not be one considering EVERYTHING is available in D/P.

so all i'm saying is don't get your hopes up. a timeline reference doesn't prove much.

Like I said they made Yellow and Crystal which didant add any new pokemon.

And Emerald even added pokemon you could previously catch in colo and not in R/S.

Samson March 16th, 2007 9:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ss5vegeta (Post 2414337)
Like I said they made Yellow and Crystal which didant add any new pokemon.

And Emerald even added pokemon you could previously catch in colo and not in R/S.

yes, but the gameplay in yellow and crystal were different, if you don't remember. there's a big difference between the events in Yellow and R/B, while Crystal introduced both female and male trainers. also, crystal had some exclusive qualities, but the gameplay wasn't much different, which explains why Crystal only came out less than a year after Gold and Silver. Emerald... you already stated the difference, and some other factors are that there are exclusive qualities in emerald. emerald came out in Japan around 1 and a half years after Ruby and Sapphire released in Japan.

Bomberman March 16th, 2007 1:34 PM

I'd love a G/S remake, but not so soon.... give it a couple years after the 3rd version of DP comes out, I say.

Cornicapus March 16th, 2007 2:56 PM

I would like a G/S remake too but i hated Fr/Lg so i hope IF they make a remake i hope they make Hoenn pokemon catchable. Also they should scrap most of the gay features they had in Fr/Lg e.g: when you play your save it recounts what you did last.

ss5vegeta March 17th, 2007 10:43 AM

7/8 people want a Pokemon G/S remake.

ss5vegeta March 18th, 2007 6:18 AM

What do you think about getting Kanto starters?

Shiny Umbreon March 18th, 2007 7:39 AM

It's impossible that there will be a G/S remake now because you wouldn't need that, and it getting Lugia/Ho-oh from XD/C or Events would have been a waste, as you can get it so easily here.

And if it's not now, definitely, it won't be in the future because the storyline wouldn't fit.

ss5vegeta March 18th, 2007 7:50 AM

Have you read any post in this topic?

Bliksem March 18th, 2007 9:42 AM

Even though I enjoyed the GSC games, there's no point in remaking them. Why take steps backwards? It's not healthy for the franchise to continue to remake old games. What I *would* like is to travel back to Johto again. But I'm not one of those 'OMG, every region in the game' people. Johto was skimped in GSC because the game focused a bit on Kanto as well. I'd like a more in-depth look at the region... preferably with harder gym leaders.

Endless_Winters March 18th, 2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bliksem (Post 2416647)
Even though I enjoyed the GSC games, there's no point in remaking them. Why take steps backwards? It's not healthy for the franchise to continue to remake old games. What I *would* like is to travel back to Johto again. But I'm not one of those 'OMG, every region in the game' people. Johto was skimped in GSC because the game focused a bit on Kanto as well. I'd like a more in-depth look at the region... preferably with harder gym leaders.

If the fanbase and market of the franchise is BEGGING for a remake, believe me it will be nothing but healthy for the franchise. Its sort of like a supply and demand thing. If your fanbase is begging for a remake, that means guaranteed profit. As to whether or not they DO remake GSC and even as to what they include in it, or how they connect it to the fourth gen, etc, thats really up to them and what they think will suit the game best.
And I do agree with you on the point of toughening up the gym leaders and such. For the most part, the pokemon fans that have played every generation or who consider themselves "Pokemon Veterans" will more than likely support the remakes. Newcomers, Im sure, might try the remake, but would more than likely just pick up the newest, coolest game. Im sure those who have spent time EV training and improving their pokemon team would appreciate those tougher battles, as they WILL probably be the main market for a remake.
I am personally looking forward to a remake sometime in the future as I did love the Johto region, and it's pokemon.. And I really believe that with better graphics, more bells and whistles and more attention to detail, the story could really come alive again. Whether it be on the GBA (for the sake of keeping the "feel" of the game the same - ie: no touch screen or dual screen features) the DS (to allow connectivity between the DP games) or a NEW handheld console, I will purchase a copy for myself.

pikachulover306 March 18th, 2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Endless_Winters (Post 2416692)
If the fanbase and market of the franchise is BEGGING for a remake, believe me it will be nothing but healthy for the franchise. Its sort of like a supply and demand thing. If your fanbase is begging for a remake, that means guaranteed profit. As to whether or not they DO remake GSC and even as to what they include in it, or how they connect it to the fourth gen, etc, thats really up to them and what they think will suit the game best.
And I do agree with you on the point of toughening up the gym leaders and such. For the most part, the pokemon fans that have played every generation or who consider themselves "Pokemon Veterans" will more than likely support the remakes. Newcomers, Im sure, might try the remake, but would more than likely just pick up the newest, coolest game. Im sure those who have spent time EV training and improving their pokemon team would appreciate those tougher battles, as they WILL probably be the main market for a remake.
I am personally looking forward to a remake sometime in the future as I did love the Johto region, and it's pokemon.. And I really believe that with better graphics, more bells and whistles and more attention to detail, the story could really come alive again. Whether it be on the GBA (for the sake of keeping the "feel" of the game the same - ie: no touch screen or dual screen features) the DS (to allow connectivity between the DP games) or a NEW handheld console, I will purchase a copy for myself.

That is true becasue if they do make a remake it will be awsome and they would make so much money off of it becasue I know I would buy a copy.

Dudedude March 18th, 2007 11:59 PM

Reasons why there would be a GS Remake(to boost the morale of those fans)
1.EVERY FKING FAN IS DEMADING ONE!!LOOK AT POKEMON.COM'S MAILBOX!
2.The Johto Manga was the best....
3.The Johto Saga was the best...
4.The game were the best pokemon games up to date.
5.Game Freak want money$$$
6.The Pokemon Company wants money$$$
7.Nintendo wants money$$$

Oh and to the idiot who said all pokemon can be captured in DP, listen to this quote

Quote:

Like I said they made Yellow and Crystal which didant add any new pokemon.

And Emerald even added pokemon you could previously catch in colo and not in R/S.
__________________
DP Pokedex can oly be completed if u have:
a. A GameCube
b. SUPER ADDICTION TO POKEMON AND GET ALL POKEMON IN THE TWO GC GAMES.
c. Loads of money to go overseas.

A remake would make a and b almost completely unneasacery!(sorry for spelling error)

So yeah...GSC REMAKE will come...you can bet on that!

Paranoia March 19th, 2007 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dudedude (Post 2417298)
DP Pokedex can oly be completed if u have:
a. A GameCube
b. SUPER ADDICTION TO POKEMON AND GET ALL POKEMON IN THE TWO GC GAMES.
c. Loads of money to go overseas.

Yeah, about that, thats not entirely true, because of the new glitch (or old) discovered in Emerald which enables you to clone pokemons, people would clone their UBER rare Lugia, Ho-oh, Celebi etc, etc, and trade them over GTS, so infact, you can get all the pokemon on D/P, it'll just take awhile

Bliksem March 19th, 2007 7:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudedude (Post 2417298)
Reasons why there would be a GS Remake(to boost the morale of those fans)
1.EVERY FKING FAN IS DEMADING ONE!!LOOK AT POKEMON.COM'S MAILBOX! Not every one
2.The Johto Manga was the best.... Opinion
3.The Johto Saga was the best... Opinion
4.The game were the best pokemon games up to date. Opinion
5.Game Freak want money$$$ Fact
6.The Pokemon Company wants money$$$ Fact
7.Nintendo wants money$$$ Fact

Oh and to the idiot who said all pokemon can be captured in DP, listen to this quote
Third installment games; not remakes. Read what I say as well.


DP Pokedex can oly be completed if u have:
a. A GameCube
b. SUPER ADDICTION TO POKEMON AND GET ALL POKEMON IN THE TWO GC GAMES.
c. Loads of money to go overseas.
d. The Global Trade Center, allowing you to trade with any of the above. For the record, event Pokemon will always be event Pokemon. Adding new games will not make these Pokemon obtainable. See: Emerald (Deoxys, Mew, Ho-Oh, Lugia)

A remake would make a and b almost completely unneasacery!(sorry for spelling error)
A and B are already unnecessary.
So yeah...GSC REMAKE will come...you can bet on that!

Comments in bold. GSC is implausible.

The Silver Kitty March 19th, 2007 7:53 AM

a pokemon gold and silver remake would be great! what i don't get is why every one and their grandma wants to stop it I mean its not like you have to buy it

Auron March 19th, 2007 8:53 AM

But...

In Emerald you can get the Johto Starters...Why ?? Because there is no another way...So...A remake is unlikely probable.

Anyways, if there is a G/S/C remake, I would like the Celebi event to be available.

ss5vegeta March 19th, 2007 9:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Auron (Post 2417527)
Anyways, if there is a G/S/C remake, I would like the Celebi event to be available.

that's what I forgot to say, and it makes perfect sense for a Celebi event.

But what other events would there be? Other games have more then 1.

Mabey a new deoxys?

Bliksem March 19th, 2007 9:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Silver Kitty (Post 2417481)
a pokemon gold and silver remake would be great! what i don't get is why every one and their grandma wants to stop it I mean its not like you have to buy it

We don't want to 'stop' it. We're arguing against its chances of becoming a game. If GSC were to be remade, would we be disappointed? Most of us, no (I'd be a little perturbed that they were taking steps backwards instead of progressing forward, but that's besides the point). The fact of the matter is that those on the aggressive side of the this debate are saying that wishing for a remake is a waste of time because of how unlikely it is. For an extreme example, it'd be like asking for a mature version of Pokemon with guns and blood. Probably not going to happen.

Other than the legendaries absent from DP, how could you even offer any more event Pokemon when all Pokemon are already availible? It's *fully* possible to obtain 490 Pokemon in this game; Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus being this game's event Pokemon (Manaphy's already been released, and Phione comes with it) are the only ones that aren't currently obtainable. All three Pokemon are locked somewhere within the game.

A GSC remake would offer nothing in terms of Pokemon. There are no event Pokemon that would be any easier to obtain than they already are. When you look at Emerald and all the extra Pokemon it had, realize that, even though the game had Pokemon unobtainable before (like Mew), you *still* had to go to an event to get one. Mew, for example, wasn't even UNLOCKED in the game. Toys R' Us did trades, giving out Mews rather than Old Sea Maps.

ss5vegeta March 19th, 2007 10:24 AM

In most countries you can't get to events, in England we have only ever had 1 Deoxys event which was to far away for me.

Bliksem March 19th, 2007 8:04 PM

Then in most countries, you're SOL. The new games wouldn't because, guess what, you'd probably need an event to unlock what you're trying to get.

There's a reason for the GTS. With the *global* trade system, you can get any Pokemon you want; there's no need for a remake for that reason.

So far, the *only* viable reason that proponents of a remake have produced is nostalgia, which I'm continuing to insist is just a step-backwards until someone can prove me wrong.

Innagadadavida March 19th, 2007 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Silver Kitty (Post 2417481)
a pokemon gold and silver remake would be great! what i don't get is why every one and their grandma wants to stop it I mean its not like you have to buy it

It gives Nintendo an excuse NOT to come out with some new Pokemon games.

Auron March 20th, 2007 8:57 AM

And...Compatibility with Battle Revolution, of course, and compatibility between games of different languages.

JohnBoy617 March 20th, 2007 8:35 PM

They really have to make a remake of this, seriously. When I first got the game when I was young, I had fun playing it and it reminds me of the good times I had. I would think the playable trainer actually looks like me >_>

But he kinda does.


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