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martijn March 21st, 2007 5:20 AM

I'd personally have liked the overworld style to be more like Pokémon Ranger, but it's good enough anyway. Some people do not realise that allthough some games may not be as good looking (D/P are looking very good, btw) they can still have very good gameplay. And to go with the comments about Stadium 1,2 Coloseum and XD, those battles where indeed a tad slow, which is a bit anoying.

Pokémon Stadium DS could theoratically be possible, only you'd have the problem that you can't put more than one DS card in one console. That could be solved by using a same type of aproach like Opera DS does: using a GBA memory expansion card with two slots for Diamond and Pearl cartridges. If they'd do that it'd be awesome :)
And that 2.5D is actually called semi-3D, btw. :)

Paranoia March 21st, 2007 5:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bliksem (Post 2418741)
Well, if you want to use statistics (say, the one in five at your school mention), that's a good 20% of your school owning a DS. That's pretty popular if you ask me.

I guess, BUT I what i meant to say was 1 Out of a TOTAL of 5, so thats why i believe the DS to be unpopular, the PSP is more popular at my school.

Shiny Umbreon March 21st, 2007 8:42 AM

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Originally Posted by martijn (Post 2418938)
I'd personally have liked the overworld style to be more like Pokémon Ranger, but it's good enough anyway. Some people do not realise that allthough some games may not be as good looking (D/P are looking very good, btw) they can still have very good gameplay. And to go with the comments about Stadium 1,2 Coloseum and XD, those battles where indeed a tad slow, which is a bit anoying.

Pokémon Stadium DS could theoratically be possible, only you'd have the problem that you can't put more than one DS card in one console. That could be solved by using a same type of aproach like Opera DS does: using a GBA memory expansion card with two slots for Diamond and Pearl cartridges. If they'd do that it'd be awesome :)
And that 2.5D is actually called semi-3D, btw. :)

First, Pokémon Ranger's graphics suck! Parts of the sprites can get out of the map, and you can't walk behind big buildings, which make me remember of the Game Boy Color Era. I prefer FR/LG graphics.

Second, I know graphics aren't everything, but they're part of the game. If not, why would the companies keep making more consoles? It's to have better graphics. You can't expect to buy a GameCube game that looks like SNES. That would be dissapointing.

And third, it IS called 2.5D.

Forci Stikane March 21st, 2007 5:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoia (Post 2418940)
I guess, BUT I what i meant to say was 1 Out of a TOTAL of 5, so thats why i believe the DS to be unpopular, the PSP is more popular at my school.

Then you go to a very sad school. DS is much more popular than PSP. EoS.

And...*sigh* The in-battle graphics are fine as-is. An improvement would just make the battles take longer, and while it might not be very noticeable during single-card play, slowdowns can add up FAST over Wi-Fi.

Anything else I have to say right now has already been said.

Captain Arcane March 21st, 2007 11:58 PM

I think the graphics are a great and big improvement, for the better too! ^_^

ethernet March 22nd, 2007 8:27 PM

i agree i was hoping for better graphics

Innagadadavida March 22nd, 2007 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichapokemr (Post 2419251)
Then you go to a very sad school. DS is much more popular than PSP. EoS.

And...*sigh* The in-battle graphics are fine as-is. An improvement would just make the battles take longer, and while it might not be very noticeable during single-card play, slowdowns can add up FAST over Wi-Fi.

Anything else I have to say right now has already been said.

WTH is a PSP!?

I've never noticed a problem with Wi-Fi on the DS, it's always instantaneously responsive. And the battle animation is on the cartridge, so it isn't like they have to pump all of that information through the Wi-Fi. In fact, the only information being sent to one another is what sprites to draw and what attacks to generate.

Forci Stikane March 23rd, 2007 8:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Innagadadavida (Post 2420415)
WTH is a PSP!?

:) A piece of cheese. :)

I've never noticed a problem with Wi-Fi on the DS, it's always instantaneously responsive. And the battle animation is on the cartridge, so it isn't like they have to pump all of that information through the Wi-Fi. In fact, the only information being sent to one another is what sprites to draw and what attacks to generate.

How much have you used Wi-Fi, then? I've been using it for a couple months now and I've noticed considerable lag when there's a lot going on.

Paranoia March 24th, 2007 2:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichapokemr (Post 2420726)
How much have you used Wi-Fi, then? I've been using it for a couple months now and I've noticed considerable lag when there's a lot going on.

Hmm.. I only experiance lag when playing download play with more than 2 people, Bomberman is a fun game though...

But I never have got any lag when playing Metroid Prime Hunters, Or tetris, ahwell maybe it's your internet?

Yoshistar64 March 24th, 2007 5:38 AM

The graphics in D/P Pokemon are new and awesome, nothing any of us should be whining about.

Wi-fi in D/P Pokemon will be awesome, too. Perhaps it wiil have one of the best Wi-fi capabilities in the history of DS Wi-fi.

Last time I checked in Nintendo.com, 9 DS's sell a minute.

acrof March 24th, 2007 5:56 AM

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Then you go to a very sad school. DS is much more popular than PSP.
I hate my country, seriously.
Well the whole country LOVE soccer, and I don´t , so people look at you as if were an alien or smth like that.:cross-eye

And if your school is sad because 1 in 5 have a DS, well in my school I´m the only one who have a DS.:(

Ok, back to the topic!
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I don't see any benefit from a 3D battle - in the example of Stadium, Stadium 2, Colosseum and XD, the battles in those games are not only unexciting, but they're awkwardly slow. Adding frames to attacks would also mean drawing a lot more sprites into the game - could add more time as well, waiting for a Blastoise to open its cannons before watching water blast out of them. I think the attacks (especially since Ruby and Sapphire) are slow enough - Bliksem suggests turning off battle scenes, and I can see people doing that rather than waiting.
The reason that pokemon battle are so slow in these game is the constant description of the attacks and annoying "press A" to go through them.
In other RPG games you simply choose the attack and enjoy it´s animations, that don´t take long to end.
And even without these some people who turn off the battle scenes just want to train their pokemons, so they should introduce a "TURBO SPEED IN BATTLE" option in the menu.

Forci Stikane March 24th, 2007 8:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paranoia (Post 2421426)
Hmm.. I only experiance lag when playing download play with more than 2 people, Bomberman is a fun game though...

But I never have got any lag when playing Metroid Prime Hunters, Or tetris, ahwell maybe it's your internet?

MY INTERNET IS JUST FINE. I'm sick of getting that answer...

Ledgend of the UnKnOwns March 24th, 2007 11:11 AM

I think the graphics are fine.

WaveBurst March 24th, 2007 11:28 AM

I've been quite looking forward to seeing and playing those graphics

Xylitol March 24th, 2007 12:18 PM

It seems like I go to a very sad school too, as two of my classmates own a PSP and there are many others in other classes. Me and my friend are the only ones I know that own a DS.

On topic, I think the graphics are good, as the 2.5D of the overworld looks awesome and some of the battle attacks have a 3d effect to them.(like Hidden Power)

Absolitude March 24th, 2007 12:23 PM

I like the graphics because they are like the ones in Animal crossing, though it was a very short lived game. :( In my school i've only seen like 2 people with a ds. So that means i'm sadder than all of you.

Ethan621 March 24th, 2007 3:44 PM

At the end of the day its a space issue. Back in the N64 days, the maximum number of pokemon models the cart had to hold was 250 or so. We've basically doubled the number of pokemon since then. The NDS is more than capable of handling the CPU workload it would take to make Stadium-style graphics...but would it be worth it if you could only have 100 pokemon in the game? As the years go on, spcae will become cheaper. i predict we'll finally see a fully 3D main entry of the series before the NDS life cycle is out.


Until then, enjoy D/P. If anything, it's showing that 2D games are still viable. God, what I would give to have a proper Street Fighter sequel with 2D sprite goodness.


Mmmmm....sprites.

Innagadadavida March 24th, 2007 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichapokemr (Post 2421587)
MY INTERNET IS JUST FINE. I'm sick of getting that answer...

Maybe your tubes are clogged.

Captain Arcane March 24th, 2007 9:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Innagadadavida (Post 2422023)
Maybe your tubes are clogged.

Then the only logical explanation is, is that you have leprachancs under your house!! (o)__(O)


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