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hi sir tomato my password is syvniti September 20th, 2008 9:40 PM

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Originally Posted by o0fdls (Post 3955267)
I've been checking around this forum and stuff, and there's tons of great stuff, but there's just much too much to look through to find links and whatnot. I just began to create a Diamond hack (I'm sick :p) and I've been looking around for tools and such, but I haven't really had all that much luck...I understand that their isn't a Map Editor Tool yet, but specifically, are there working Text and Sprite editing tools...? I can't find any

I plan on becoming a game writer and not programmer, so Hex coding means nothing to me...but I can learn. I was basically hoping to just hack the game, make a different trainer, and re-write the storyline and dialog and all that stuff. A lot of work, not a lot of programming; but I need some tools...

If somebody has/wants to/is making an entirely different Pokemon game, I'd be willing to help with the story. I'm the most amazing writer, but I'm good at making words read as if they were spoken, if that makes any sense.

Last note: Do DP tools work well with Platinum (or will there be Platinum tools soon)? 'Cus I love the new battle screen n_n

Oh, and would it be possible to put at least a little bit of commentary from Stadium/St2/Battle Rev onto the DS Pokemon games...? I realize Voice Acting would make the game a lot more interesting, even if its just Ash saying "Go!" when you send out a pokemon :P


Ok, so two last notes. Deal with it O_o

Hi. Your projekt sound...

Unrealistik, and pointles...

If you don't wanna do any hacking...

DP hacking is at the reseach stage currently and with no done mapping or scripting yet (Even though the mapping has takken some awsome steps the last days:P)then you wont be able to make a story...

If you don't wanna include hex editing, then you neither will come far anyway..
Hex editing is also hacking, and what you'll be spend a lot time... You were just lucky that the last generation had so many tools...

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Originally Posted by o0fdls (Post 3955495)
Well, I've generally gotten the hang of PokeTEX. I guess I'm just first going to make the game based on the Female sprite. Actually, my sprite would be perfect for Platinum - I replaced the Bike with sprites from a Female Skier :-P

Good for you, you manged to edit a sprite..
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Originally Posted by o0fdls (Post 3955495)
I still really need a text editor though...if people've managed to edit the maps, isn't there a text editor somewhere too...?

Dude, then seach!?!?!?!? what the **** does map edits, have to do with there's a text editor?
Spoiler:
It's made by loadingnow..


My answer for you is two damn word...

FIRE RED - BPRE

gabe_k September 21st, 2008 4:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jisan (Post 3955130)
Sorry Charizard Ruler but i can't agree with that. D/P has some parts where it could improve and a hack of a ds game will be pretty interesting to play.
[center] http://www.ginomegelati.com/animierte/jirachi-bunt.gif
Name: Aura

Way to quote a post more then a year old...

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Originally Posted by o0fdls (Post 3955267)
I've been checking around this forum and stuff, and there's tons of great stuff, but there's just much too much to look through to find links and whatnot. I just began to create a Diamond hack (I'm sick :p) and I've been looking around for tools and such, but I haven't really had all that much luck...I understand that their isn't a Map Editor Tool yet, but specifically, are there working Text and Sprite editing tools...? I can't find any

I plan on becoming a game writer and not programmer, so Hex coding means nothing to me...but I can learn. I was basically hoping to just hack the game, make a different trainer, and re-write the storyline and dialog and all that stuff. A lot of work, not a lot of programming; but I need some tools...

If somebody has/wants to/is making an entirely different Pokemon game, I'd be willing to help with the story. I'm the most amazing writer, but I'm good at making words read as if they were spoken, if that makes any sense.

Last note: Do DP tools work well with Platinum (or will there be Platinum tools soon)? 'Cus I love the new battle screen n_n

Oh, and would it be possible to put at least a little bit of commentary from Stadium/St2/Battle Rev onto the DS Pokemon games...? I realize Voice Acting would make the game a lot more interesting, even if its just Ash saying "Go!" when you send out a pokemon :P


Ok, so two last notes. Deal with it O_o

Wow... I could say NO a million times but that still wouldn't cut it. There are text editing and sprite editing tools, but just with those you wouldn't be able to create a full DP hack (unless you have the same definition of a hack as Buffy). At the moment most mapping stuff is possible, but it's not easy. The only people know much about scripting are loadingNOW and myself, and I'd say that neither of us knows enough to make a full hack. You most likely won't get any help on this project. As gabe_c said, it's unrealistic and pointless, but I'd like to add that it's stupid.

o0fdls September 21st, 2008 9:42 AM

i just want to edit what some characters say. i can learn to hex edit. i do not want to edit the in-game events themselves.

i will include hex editing if i have to. i've searched everywhere and can't find any text editing tools. editing Fire Red is pointless.

all i want is some help learning to edit the script, and some help using pokeTEX. no need to insult me for asking genuine questions.

pichu2000 September 21st, 2008 10:13 AM

Hey, I found maybe the connections data
It's located in map-matrix
The only I've edited is in 0X271388D
(04 00) If you change that with 07, you swap the maps of 201 with one of Sandem...
It's a start...

Heart's Soul September 21st, 2008 10:42 AM

Is this hard to hack if you never HEX edited before?

hi sir tomato my password is syvniti September 21st, 2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheimi-Manafi (Post 3959949)
Is this hard to hack if you never HEX edited before?

Why would you hex edit?
Just use Wordpad...

That's what Pichu2009, Gabe, Loadingnow use

Heart's Soul September 21st, 2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabe_c (Post 3960002)
Why would you hex edit?
Just use Wordpad...

That's what Pichu2009, Gabe, Loadingnow use

You do know that that is the main way of hacking PMD.
Plus, some mod change this to Diamond/Pearl/Platinum Hacking because that Platinum is hackable the exact same way as DP. Platinum Lucario did it, why not everyone else? All programs ae compatible with the 100MB file.

hi sir tomato my password is syvniti September 21st, 2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheimi-Manafi (Post 3960059)
You do know that that is the main way of hacking PMD.
Plus, some mod change this to Diamond/Pearl/Platinum Hacking because that Platinum is hackable the exact same way as DP. Platinum Lucario did it, why not everyone else? All programs ae compatible with the 100MB file.

Sorry, I'm just a n00b, could you teach me?
Dude, That's the main way?
So yes or no, It worpad designed to handle 32 mb files?
Sorry, But not all charchers are displayed in ascii... What does make it the main way of hacking PMD?

o0fdls September 21st, 2008 12:45 PM

would it be possible to replace the entire DP overworld with one from a GBA game and then edit that? that way simple GBA hacks would be able to take advantage of the DS battle system and touch screen and stuff.

or something along those lines at least - like just completely ignore/delete the 3d effects

eworm September 26th, 2008 11:58 PM

Pokedex Hacking
 
And I would like to replace DP Pokedex Pokemon with other ones. Is it possible? I tried to to do it by DP PokedexOrder editor from Whack A Hack! but I can't SAVE the changes! Maybe it's possible by using Nitor Explorer..? Please, HELP ME!

Squeenix September 28th, 2008 5:49 AM

Yes you could replace the overworld
BUT IT WOULD FREEZE AS SOON AS YOU ENTERED A MAP
Diamond/Pearl is 3d
Gba Versions are 2d

Darthatron September 28th, 2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by o0fdls (Post 3960500)
would it be possible to replace the entire DP overworld with one from a GBA game and then edit that? that way simple GBA hacks would be able to take advantage of the DS battle system and touch screen and stuff.

or something along those lines at least - like just completely ignore/delete the 3d effects

No.
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Originally Posted by Squeenix (Post 3980106)
Yes you could replace the overworld
BUT IT WOULD FREEZE AS SOON AS YOU ENTERED A MAP
Diamond/Pearl is 3d
Gba Versions are 2d

If I'm not mistaken the overworlds in D/P are 2D. And are set out exactly the same as in the GBA games.

gabe_k September 29th, 2008 8:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Darthatron (Post 3983810)
No.

If I'm not mistaken the overworlds in D/P are 2D. And are set out exactly the same as in the GBA games.

That's partially true. While the DP overworlds are simple models with textures on them, you could easily rip the texture and put it into GBA games.

Snowfield34 September 30th, 2008 8:35 AM

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Originally Posted by E-Bag (Post 3984534)
That's partially true. While the DP overworlds are simple models with textures on them, you could easily rip the texture and put it into GBA games.

Are you sure about that?

They are formed and all...

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Originally Posted by eworm (Post 3975695)
And I would like to replace DP Pokedex Pokemon with other ones. Is it possible? I tried to to do it by DP PokedexOrder editor from Whack A Hack! but I can't SAVE the changes! Maybe it's possible by using Nitor Explorer..? Please, HELP ME!

I don't know which Pokedex Editor, There might be more then one... Please Say who made it...

gabe_k September 30th, 2008 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowfield34 (Post 3987846)
Are you sure about that?

They are formed and all...


I don't know which Pokedex Editor, There might be more then one... Please Say who made it...

Yeah, I'm sure. They have no detail, and they're just simple polygons with the texture of the OW.

Magnius October 5th, 2008 7:23 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd2exwOCOHg

I've managed to successfully hack DP's music. It's not groundbreaking or anything as people have probably hacked DS music before, but I think this may be the first video proof of music actually being changed in Pokemon DP. Still a lot of things to figure out... why the bad drum sound? Why is the bass gone? Why is the song slower than the midi? This is stuff we still have to figure out.

Swampert 22 October 5th, 2008 8:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnius (Post 4005315)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd2exwOCOHg

I've managed to successfully hack DP's music. It's not groundbreaking or anything as people have probably hacked DS music before, but I think this may be the first video proof of music actually being changed in Pokemon DP. Still a lot of things to figure out... why the bad drum sound? Why is the bass gone? Why is the song slower than the midi? This is stuff we still have to figure out.

Awesome work for a start Magnius! I see now you've mastered the GBA you're going to tackle NDS! I look forward to seeing if you can figure it out, as you seem to be a music guru;)

Magnius October 5th, 2008 8:37 AM

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Originally Posted by swampert22 (Post 4005472)
Awesome work for a start Magnius! I see now you've mastered the GBA you're going to tackle NDS! I look forward to seeing if you can figure it out, as you seem to be a music guru;)

Thanks. Yeah, as far as actually inserting the music goes it's easy. But what I'm having trouble figuring out now is... A. Why the slowdown with the music? B. Why some instruments play faster than others.

But yeah simply changing the music isn't as hard as it seems. The technique I use is, first I convert the midi to an SSEQ file. Then I open the Sound_data.sdat and literally search for where the particular SSEQ file is stored in there. After I find where the SSEQ file is stored in Sound_Data.sdat, I overwrite it with data from my SSEQ file.

It would be pretty cool if someone could make a Sappy like thing for this. If you think about it... it's pretty similar to GBA Music Hacking...

Convert the midi to an .s file ----> Convert the midi to an .SSEQ file

Assemble the ".s" file ----> Find where the original SSEQ data is in the sound file and "overwrite" it.

If I knew anything about programming, I'd get on it myself.

Swampert 22 October 5th, 2008 8:44 AM

Well Magnius, maybe if you were able to get the source code for Sappy, it would be possible with some tweaking to make it work with NDS games, providing the fomat is as simular as you describe...

Magnius October 5th, 2008 8:52 AM

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Originally Posted by swampert22 (Post 4005602)
Well Magnius, maybe if you were able to get the source code for Sappy, it would be possible with some tweaking to make it work with NDS games, providing the fomat is as simular as you describe...

Yeah, that would be a good idea. Basically "Mid2SSEQ" already works sort of like a "Mid2AGB" tool. So basically, it'd be a matter of making Sappy recognize ".SSEQ" files and assembling them. Then there's the whole monster of actually making a sort of SSEQ player type thing.

hi sir tomato my password is syvniti October 5th, 2008 8:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnius (Post 4005641)
Yeah, that would be a good idea. Basically "Mid2SSEQ" already works sort of like a "Mid2AGB" tool. So basically, it'd be a matter of making Sappy recognize ".SSEQ" files and assembling them. Then there's the whole monster of actually making a sort of SSEQ player type thing.

Run for your lifes every one, Magnius are gonna take your jobs!

Mastermind_X October 6th, 2008 1:15 PM

Pokemon Day 2008 in Munich - Nice little Hack
 
Heyho,

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Jup, I have to admit, I was there - with Tutti from RHW.
Well - usually, what do you do if you´re surrounded by about 500 underaged children? Yes - you write some nice hack in order to get rid of your boredom. =)
So we finally managed to sniff the frequency of the Darkrai download station and replaced the Darkrai by the unachievable Arceus Event - including the Azure Flute. =P
So we sat in front of McDonald´s and watched all the kids climbing the Sky Pillar and catching Arceus instead of Darkrai.
BTW gratz to Nintendo for not having learned anything about hackers the last years. I really liked the moment when I recognized that you´re distributing Darkrai via an unsecure connection without any encryptions. XD
So - it was really fun for us both, I hope all the other visitors enjoyed our "idea" too.
Pictures here:
http://sfc.pokemon-inside.net/news-431

Heart's Soul October 6th, 2008 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabe_c (Post 3960097)
Sorry, I'm just a n00b, could you teach me?
Dude, That's the main way?
So yes or no, It worpad designed to handle 32 mb files?
Sorry, But not all charchers are displayed in ascii... What does make it the main way of hacking PMD?

Just PM me.

Also, how do you rip the music from Platinum?

Magnius October 6th, 2008 5:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheimi-Manafi (Post 4009790)
Just PM me.

Also, how do you rip the music from Platinum?

No idea what the intent of Gabe C's post was but... you probably rip it same way as you rip music from DP, which is getting the sound file and using an extarctor. However lol there are some extractors out there that don't work. Out of the two I tried, only one of them successfully extracted the SSEQ files.

thethethethe October 6th, 2008 9:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnius (Post 4010238)
No idea what the intent of Gabe C's post was but...

He's obviously just being sarcastic.
He's only saying that because attempting to hack MD with Wordpad is incredibly stupid and is just a very easy way to crash the ROM.
Oh and Sheimi-Manafi, gabe_c is sebbe17/son sebbe, the one who basically did all that ground work for people, who then decided to be stupid and try to hack a ROM with wordpad.


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