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Captain Fabio April 11th, 2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukio (Post 4528014)
Another method (although it may be a bit more tedious and hard) would be to train that Pokemon up to whatever level you want it to be the normal way. Once it reaches that level, you could use the berries such as Kelpsy, Pomeg, etc(I can't remember the other ones, sorry) to lower all your Pokemon's EVs to 0. Then you can EV train it. If your Pokemon has a stat that has over 100 EVs for it, then feeding it one berry will reduce the stat's EVs to 100. From then on, every berry you feed it that lowers that stat's EVs will take away 10 EVs/berry. Hope that wasn't too confusing. Good luck!

Noo, I know what you mean =]
Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4528153)
You could also drop it off at the daycare and run around for a bit... But your moveset will get ruined.

True, but you can easily get your desired moves, depending on what you want.

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 4528157)
Pick Up team and Rare Candies work, as well.

Or there is this way :P

Gymnotide April 11th, 2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by garra_of_the_desert (Post 4528188)
True, but you can easily get your desired moves, depending on what you want.

Not if you are talking about egg moves.

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Originally Posted by Mages4ever (Post 4528159)
My team is...
Lvl 60 Gyrados - Waterfall
Lvl 55 Gengar
Lvl 56 Empoleon - Surf
Lvl 54 Jolteon
Lvl 55 Staraptor - Fly, Defog
Lvl 25 Bibarel - Strength, Rock Climb, Cut, Rock Smash

I've cleared out most of the post-story events, but I need some good replacements that can hold the HM's still because as you can see, my team is very electric weak.

Any Pokemon
Any Pokemon
Any Pokemon
Dragonite - Fly, Surf, Waterfall, Defog
Kricketune - Sing, False Swipe, Cut, Flash
Blaziken / Marowak / Rhyperior - Strength, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Dig

Captain Fabio April 11th, 2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4528195)
Not if you are talking about egg moves.

Move tutor?
Or is it different in Platinum. I haven't explored these bits yet :P

Gymnotide April 11th, 2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by garra_of_the_desert (Post 4528211)
Move tutor?
Or is it different in Platinum. I haven't explored these bits yet :P

You could never teach egg moves to a Pokemon via move tutor. You can teach moves it learns at level 0 (move relearner) or moves like Signal Beam, Explosion, or Helping Hand (Shard tutors) or moves like Frenzy Plant or Draco Meteor (Ultimate move tutors) at various move tutors.... But never Egg moves.

Captain Fabio April 11th, 2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4528222)
You could never teach egg moves to a Pokemon via move tutor. You can teach moves it learns at level 0 (move relearner) or moves like Signal Beam, Explosion, or Helping Hand (Shard tutors) or moves like Frenzy Plant or Draco Meteor (Ultimate move tutors) at various move tutors.... But never Egg moves.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, of course.
My bad.
Thanks for clearing that up ^.^

Crystal Shaymin April 11th, 2009 2:07 PM

Alright, I have a question about the villa in platinum. To get the clock, it says I have to plant 50 berries. Do I have to wait until the berries are fully grown, or will just planting 50 berries in soil allow me to get the clock?

El Softo April 11th, 2009 5:52 PM

Is there any way to teach Milotic Baton Pass.

Gymnotide April 11th, 2009 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by El Softo (Post 4529456)
Is there any way to teach Milotic Baton Pass.

PokeSav. But the answer is no.

CrimsonBohemian April 11th, 2009 6:57 PM

Mystery Gift?
 
Hi I'm new to the game and I have a question. So my question is what is mystery gift? and how do I get it?

Gymnotide April 11th, 2009 7:12 PM

Mystery Gift information can be found here:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mystery_Gift#Generation_IV

EricTheEevee April 11th, 2009 7:55 PM

What are the best natures and why for each rotom form, including normal rotom? I'm about to SR for mine and I want to know which I should get.

The Argentavis April 11th, 2009 8:51 PM

Platinum Question
 
I know this rules for all III/IV games, but, when using exp share on a pokemon that does not battle, does he/she/it still get EV's?

another question, what's the ratio between attack EV points and Attack points?
along w/ another >.< is it the same for all stats?

Kaseo April 11th, 2009 8:56 PM

Yup. Exp. Share pokemon are still getting EV's. Just not as much obviously (Exp. and EV Share then)

I believe its 4 EV for +1 stat. So yeah, same for all stats.

Gummy April 11th, 2009 8:57 PM

Yes, it does. And it will be doubled if the pokemon has PokeRus.

4 EV points = One Stat point. I THINK the max for each stat is 252 EV points/63 stat points.

Kaseo April 11th, 2009 9:02 PM

The max is actually 255 I believe, but if you max out two stats like that, you won't have enough left over for +1 on a third stat

The Argentavis April 11th, 2009 9:03 PM

Um, ty for the info, and rare candies are evil, right?

Gummy April 11th, 2009 9:08 PM

If you've maxed out your EVs, no their not.

Gymnotide April 11th, 2009 9:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EricTheEevee (Post 4529968)
What are the best natures and why for each rotom form, including normal rotom? I'm about to SR for mine and I want to know which I should get.

Generally, Timid is the way to go because you want more Speed on a Pokemon like Rotom. If you want more power, choose Modest.

El Softo April 11th, 2009 9:29 PM

Timid would be good, it lowers attack and raises speed.
From viewing Bulbapedia, it looks like even the new forms' attack stat is still garbage so I wouldn't use it much.




When does Scizor learn Bullet Punch in Diamond?

Shadow April 11th, 2009 9:32 PM

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Originally Posted by El Softo (Post 4530233)
Timid would be good, it lowers attack and raises speed.
From viewing Bulbapedia, it looks like even the new forms' attack stat is still garbage so I wouldn't use it much.




When does Scizor learn Bullet Punch in Diamond?

It doesn't in Diamond.

In Platinum only, it learns it at level 1.

El Softo April 11th, 2009 9:35 PM

In that case, would you say Metal Claw is a good alternative to Bullet Punch for Scizor since I only have Diamond?

Micro April 11th, 2009 9:36 PM

A pokemon can have a maximum of 510 EVs. You can certain EVs from certain pokemon.
For example, you can get 2 HP EVs by defeating a Quagsire.
4 EVs=1 stat point. Yes, the pokemon with Exp. Share still gets EVs.
You shouldn't use rare candies until you've fully EV trained your pokemon.
Rare candies won't give your pokemon EVs.

Shadow April 11th, 2009 9:40 PM

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Originally Posted by El Softo (Post 4530247)
In that case, would you say Metal Claw is a good alternative to Bullet Punch for Scizor since I only have Diamond?

Metal Claw or Iron Head, which he learns at 53.

Metal Claw has 50 power and has a chance to raise attack. Iron Head has 80 power and a chance to flinch the opponent (though Scizor isn't the fastest thing). Both have 100 accuracy. So take your pick.

If he has Technician, I'd pick Metal Claw.

EricTheEevee April 11th, 2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by El Softo (Post 4530233)
Timid would be good, it lowers attack and raises speed.
From viewing Bulbapedia, it looks like even the new forms' attack stat is still garbage so I wouldn't use it much.




When does Scizor learn Bullet Punch in Diamond?

Oh okay, thank you very much. :)
If you want, I can help you get bullet punch, since I have platinum.

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4530228)
Generally, Timid is the way to go because you want more Speed on a Pokemon like Rotom. If you want more power, choose Modest.

Do the rotom forms have enough speed In the first place to outspeed most pokemon? Or is timid necessary?

Shadow April 11th, 2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EricTheEevee (Post 4530325)
Do the rotom forms have enough speed In the first place to outspeed most pokemon? Or is timid necessary?

Base speed for Rotom (in other forms) is 86 (note: this is actually lower than normal Rotom, which has 91 speed). It's above 'average,' but nowhere near being the fastest out there.

lolwut April 12th, 2009 4:49 AM

how come i have pokerus on all my pokemon one second then i look again at them the next day when i wake up and pkrs is gone and theres a lititle sad smiley face in the bottom right hand corner.

Beco April 12th, 2009 5:27 AM

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how come i have pokerus on all my pokemon one second then i look again at them the next day when i wake up and pkrs is gone and theres a lititle sad smiley face in the bottom right hand corner.
The Pokémon ure cured from Pokérusover time, I think it takes just one day, it's best to keep one infected Pokémon in your box, as those kept in boxes aren't cured over time, this way you can keep infecting others with the one kept in the box.

I'll be getting Platinum soon, and I'm wondering if I'm able to trade over some Pokémon from the national dex (like Cyndaquil) over from the start, or will I have to wait until I finally get the national dex before I can trade them over. I need this information to know which Pokémon eggs I should prepare on my Pearl game. Thanks in advance...

Captain Fabio April 12th, 2009 5:34 AM

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Originally Posted by slowpokez (Post 4530998)
how come i have pokerus on all my pokemon one second then i look again at them the next day when i wake up and pkrs is gone and theres a lititle sad smiley face in the bottom right hand corner.

Pkrs isn't a life long virus.
After some time of the pokemon having it, it goes away.
The only way for you to prevent it is to put the pokemon with Pkrs in the PC.
That means it can't go when inside the computer =]

Shem April 12th, 2009 6:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Beco (Post 4531078)
I'll be getting Platinum soon, and I'm wondering if I'm able to trade over some Pokémon from the national dex (like Cyndaquil) over from the start, or will I have to wait until I finally get the national dex before I can trade them over. I need this information to know which Pokémon eggs I should prepare on my Pearl game. Thanks in advance...

Ya sure can! That's what I did. Had Chikorita, beldum, Torchic, and Nincada to start with

jigglyppuff8 April 12th, 2009 6:19 AM

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Originally Posted by slowpokez (Post 4530998)
how come i have pokerus on all my pokemon one second then i look again at them the next day when i wake up and pkrs is gone and theres a lititle sad smiley face in the bottom right hand corner.

Like the other posts said, Pokerus goes away after some time and that you can prevent that by putting the infected Pokemon in a PC. To be exact, Pokerus "goes away" the moment it turns midnight (00:00) if it's not in the PC. Then, that smilie face will show up in place of PKRS. That means that Pokemon won't be able to spread Pokerus to other Pokemon, but still has the EV doubling effects.

ProfessorMiles April 12th, 2009 7:45 AM

Good Idea Or No?
 
Is it a good idea to Train your Pokemon while its in its First State, Without Evolving it, so it can learn the moves Faster?
Example.
My Shinx - Lv: 27. Im Leveling it to level 29 So i can teach it Thunder Fang Earlier, instead of level 42 When Luxray learns it. Then im going to evolve it at level 30 and 31 So then i can have my LuxRay.
is that a good idea? because i went through the pokedex in the Game Guide. and it says that most pokemon can learn its strongest move in first State almost 20 Levels before the 3rd State pokemon. Is this okay doing this, or should i evolve and wait?

:)

Haza April 12th, 2009 7:56 AM

Why do the altered forms have competitive move-sets but change back when in Union Rooms and WiFI Clubs?

Mages4ever April 12th, 2009 7:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ℍ a z a (Post 4531531)
Why do the altered forms have competitive move-sets but change back when in Union Rooms and WiFI Clubs?

Because If you try to battle with Diamond and Pearl, they didn't have those forms, meaning something messed up would happen.

Penumbra April 12th, 2009 8:08 AM

Well, on appearance, this seems like a good idea.
But in actuality, it depends on where you are in
the game. If you're making a competitive team
for online play, after you beat story mode,
It's fine to do that and train it nicely...

On the opposite side, however, it's tough to do that
while playing through the story and beating Gym Leaders,
Rivals, Team Galactic, etc. They'll murder your Shinx with
their fully evolved pokemon... It'll keep dieing and you can't
really train him since he's (assuming it's a boy) so weak...
I tried that with my turtwig but it was a complete joke when
I went up against Gardenia. Yes. Gardenia.

For Thunder Fang, you can just go to a move tutor
or give a heart scale who teaches forgotten moves.
I believe Luxray automatically has Thunder Fang
and Fire Fang once evolved?

ShinjisLover April 12th, 2009 8:12 AM

I agree with Penumbra, it all depends on what you're doing with the story. If you want to get it done quickly, it's not a good idea. But if you want to take your time/don't mind taking your time, then I'd say it's a great idea. ^^

Haza April 12th, 2009 8:42 AM

Okay I hear that but it does it with Platinum too.

Forci Stikane April 12th, 2009 9:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ℍ a z a (Post 4531531)
Why do the altered forms have competitive move-sets but change back when in Union Rooms and WiFI Clubs?

If you are asking why they still have competitive movesets listed for them on Smogon and other sites, it is because those forms can still be used over Shoddy Battle.

El Softo April 12th, 2009 10:10 AM

So when Ev training, all I need to do is fight the X amount of pokemon for their evs once right? Meaning after I've got the ev points I'm free to fight whichever pokemon I want and ev training is not an ongoing thing all the way to 100?

And which berries reset the EVs so I can start over/how many do I need?

Forci Stikane April 12th, 2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by El Softo (Post 4532084)
So when Ev training, all I need to do is fight the X amount of pokemon for their evs once right? Meaning after I've got the ev points I'm free to fight whichever pokemon I want and ev training is not an ongoing thing all the way to 100?

Correct.

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Originally Posted by El Softo (Post 4532084)
And which berries reset the EVs so I can start over/how many do I need?

Berries #21-26, the ones from Pomeg to Tamato, are the ones that will decrease EVs. The maximum that you will need for each stat is 11, but once the game tells you that a stat will not drop any more, you do not need to give it any more berries for that stat.

Forever Forum April 12th, 2009 10:34 AM

Can anyone tell me how to catch a Ditto in Platinum? I hear East of Canalave, PokeRadar. Then Trophy Garden, PokeRadar.

What is the certain way to get Ditto?

Forci Stikane April 12th, 2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sUrfiNg_pIkacHu (Post 4532237)
Can anyone tell me how to catch a Ditto in Platinum? I hear East of Canalave, PokeRadar. Then Trophy Garden, PokeRadar.

What is the certain way to get Ditto?

In Platinum, Ditto is a Daily Pokemon located in the Trophy Garden. Save in front of Mr. Backlot and then talk to him. If he mentions Ditto, then there will be wild Ditto in his garden, although their encounter rate is only 5%. If not, then there is still a slim chance that Ditto will be available, but it is still more useful to reset and try again.

Forever Forum April 12th, 2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Forci Stikane (Post 4532264)
In Platinum, Ditto is a Daily Pokemon located in the Trophy Garden. Save in front of Mr. Backlot and then talk to him. If he mentions Ditto, then there will be wild Ditto in his garden, although their encounter rate is only 5%. If not, then there is still a slim chance that Ditto will be available, but it is still more useful to reset and try again.

Last night I went to him and he stated Azurill was in the Garden.

I talked to him this morning and he said the same. Do I have to wait for him to change his saying?

Forci Stikane April 12th, 2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sUrfiNg_pIkacHu (Post 4532308)
Last night I went to him and he stated Azurill was in the Garden.

I talked to him this morning and he said the same. Do I have to wait for him to change his saying?

Every day, one Pokemon is randomly selected out of a specific group and placed into the Trophy Garden. The reason why I said to save in front of him is because the specific selection is not made until you actually speak to him, meaning that resetting gives another chance at a specific Pokemon being selected.

In other words, Azurill being chosen twice was merely a fluke.

...Or are you saying that he was still insisting on Azurill being in the garden?

Forever Forum April 12th, 2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Forci Stikane (Post 4532328)
Every day, one Pokemon is randomly selected out of a specific group and placed into the Trophy Garden. The reason why I said to save in front of him is because the specific selection is not made until you actually speak to him, meaning that resetting gives another chance at a specific Pokemon being selected.

In other words, Azurill being chosen twice was merely a fluke.

...Or are you saying that he was still insisting on Azurill being in the garden?

He was still saying Azurill was in the Garden.

So I guess I have to wait a full day correct?

Forci Stikane April 12th, 2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sUrfiNg_pIkacHu (Post 4532383)
He was still saying Azurill was in the Garden.

So I guess I have to wait a full day correct?

If he was still standing there by himself saying "There really ARE Azurill in my garden!!" or something along those lines, then yes.

Either way, you should wait until tomorrow morning and then try again.

Forever Forum April 12th, 2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Forci Stikane (Post 4532395)
If he was still standing there by himself saying "There really ARE Azurill in my garden!!" or something along those lines, then yes.

Either way, you should wait until tomorrow morning and then try again.

Thank you. ;)

Nothing much to do but to wait.

dialga493 April 12th, 2009 1:41 PM

Help Me in This!!!!!!!!
 
IN Platinum for the 3rd gym, (the ghost one), how do you beat it?

GO DRAGONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're Gonna Go Far Kid! April 12th, 2009 1:49 PM

Dark pokemon...get an umbreon or something...
If you have the patience,evolve a Buneary and keep forsight.
Forsight+Physical attack=WIN

Richard Lynch April 12th, 2009 1:58 PM

Ummm... wha?

(Going by Platinum)

Duskull is easily taken care of, if you ask me, so there's no real strategy involved.

Haunter, with its dual Poison type, is taken out quickly by any powerful (preferably STABed) Psychic type move (Kadabra will always win against Haunter, for example).

Mismagius is just a pain. My suggestion is to bring along a decent Dark Pokemon who can hold its own offensively. I'm not sure about its moveset in the gym, but if its allowed to Calm Mind up, it can be a real pain to take down, so hit it hard and fast. This is slightly risky, but another Ghost Pokemon could viably be helpful, although you better make sure it can get the very first hit, and make that hit a good one!

In general, against Mismagius, its best if you have something that can take a few hits. If you can whittle her down enough, a fast and strong blow at the end could make a win for you.

CONAN1 April 12th, 2009 2:40 PM

a Little Problem
 
Hello my problem is when you trad a pokemon from Pokemon Diamond to Platinum

the pokemon that you have traded will be vain ,, and proud and start sleeping in the fight and ignore your orders ... what is the solution ?? and what should I do ??

thanks :)

Gummy April 12th, 2009 2:46 PM

Pokemon obedience is determined by gym badges (and maybe happiness, I'm not sure)

2 badges - Pokemon up to lvl 30 will obey
4 badges - up to lvl 50
6 badges - up to lvl 70
8 badges - all will obey

Metalchic April 12th, 2009 2:52 PM

ponyta with flamewheel will work pretty well i would think, i'm not sure i leveled all my pokemon up to lv30~ before that gym =x

CONAN1 April 12th, 2009 2:59 PM

aha but if my pokemon is under the 30es

shall I train him until he goes to the 30 or finishing 2 badges is ok ..?

thanks for posting :)

Gymnotide April 12th, 2009 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CONAN1 (Post 4533425)
aha but if my pokemon is under the 30es

shall I train him until he goes to the 30 or finishing 2 badges is ok ..?

thanks for posting :)

They will only obey up to level 10 until you get the second badge.

gee2k8 April 12th, 2009 5:02 PM

Older gen player seeking guidence
 
Hello again guys, as i have never stepped out of the realms of pokemon red/blue/yellow/fire red and Leaf green i am completely oblivious to the new selection of pokemon on the ds games Diamond/Pearl and the up and coming platinum.

I am soon to buy a DS, one for me and one for my Girlfriend because we love battling with each other on our gba's on fire red/green and we have gotten each other rather over excited about the idea of playing on a brand new DS. Now getting to the point of my post....i am after some help on the titles on the ds as i am not sure which one we each should get, knowing very little about the pokemon passed the 150 mark i have no idea which games have which pokemon and would very much appreciate it if someone could briefly fill me in with some info on these games and perhaps some suggestions could be made to which we should get (for example i dont know if platinum is a different game world all together to diamond and pearl which i am guessing are more advanced equivelants to red/blue).

Thanks in advance

Shadow April 12th, 2009 5:09 PM

Well, Platinum is to Diamond/Pearl as Yellow is to Red/Blue. It's an update version of the game with some new features and storyline elements. If you're going to start with one, I'd suggest Platinum as it is the most finely polished one of the new generation and has the largest selection of Pokémon.

Perhaps the biggest change you'll notice beyond the addition of Pokémon is that attacks are no longer physical or special based on their type, but by the actual attack. For example: Ember is a special Fire move and Fire Punch is a physical Fire move.

Other than that, just glance over the instruction manuals and glance over the FAQs stickied in this forum. Take advantage of the stickied Q&A thread for any simple questions you might come across while playing. And above all, have fun with the games.

Shem April 12th, 2009 5:11 PM

I would definately get platinum, It has more pokemon in it. But there are pokemon that can't be obtained in Platinum but can in Dimond or Pearl.

But you could always trade on wi-fi for those

There's also a little more content on Platinum.

By the way, If you like your fire red/leaf green pokemon and want to use them on your DS game, I would go with at least one DS lite so you can import you're GBA pokemon, but if you plan on keeping pokemon on your GBA games a DSi wouldn't affect you, or maybe one of each.

Kaseo April 12th, 2009 5:19 PM

I'm going to EV train a lvl 1 pokemon, so my plan was to Exp. Share lvl it once to level it up quite a bit and then get rid of the EVs it gained with berries. So my question is how many EVs do those certain berries reduce?

Forci Stikane April 12th, 2009 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaseo (Post 4534038)
I'm going to EV train a lvl 1 pokemon, so my plan was to Exp. Share lvl it once to level it up quite a bit and then get rid of the EVs it gained with berries. So my question is how many EVs do those certain berries reduce?

Apparently, if a Pokemon has more than 100 EVs in a stat, then a single berry will reduce those to 100. Beyond that, each berry removes 10 EVs.

gee2k8 April 12th, 2009 5:23 PM

thanks for the speedy replies, i will look into getting platinum :) and a ds lite was all we could afford for the moment anyway i'm not really interested in the camera functions of the dsi i just really want to play the new games and get to grips with 150+ pokemon :)

MrShaun April 12th, 2009 7:48 PM

2 Questions :D
 
1. In Pastora...when you stand inside the Croagunk poster...sometimes a random Croagunk will just run into the Safari Zone. Whats that all about?

2. In the Commercial...you see the character riding a Piplup boat...where is that and how do I get to it?

Im hoping for FAST replies! Thanks!

revelp8 April 12th, 2009 7:54 PM

I don't know about the croagunk thing, but i think its catchable in platinum, but the piplup boat is in the wifi plaza. there's a certain amount of time you can stay in there and once the alotted time is up, you go on the boat and ride out of the plaza.

jigglyppuff8 April 12th, 2009 7:55 PM

For the second question, that would be the Wi-fi Plaza, a new addition to wi-fi connection. It is found on the bottom center of the Pokemon Center. Here, you can spend an amount of time everyday with up to 20 players in a random room playing different minigames. More details can be found here.

MrShaun April 12th, 2009 8:15 PM

Any answer to the first question?

EricTheEevee April 12th, 2009 10:28 PM

Do synchers work on mesprit?

Gymnotide April 12th, 2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EricTheEevee (Post 4534984)
Do synchers work on mesprit?

No - their natures are set once they start flying around Sinnoh.

EricTheEevee April 12th, 2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4534986)
No - their natures are set once they start flying around Sinnoh.

What if you have a syncher when you first talk to it?

jigglyppuff8 April 12th, 2009 10:53 PM

Synchronize increases the rate of encountering wild Pokemon with the same nature. You're not technically "encountering" it, since it runs away after you first see it. Therefore, synchronize should have no effect on roamers.

Gymnotide April 12th, 2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EricTheEevee (Post 4535006)
What if you have a syncher when you first talk to it?

Absolutely no effect.
This includes Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno, Cresselia, and Mesprit.

EricTheEevee April 12th, 2009 11:14 PM

darn, thanks for the responses! :)

1KewlDude April 13th, 2009 2:01 AM

I think you'll really enjoy the fourth generation because you've pretty much missed out on the two in between so you have a lot to discover.

Akeraz April 13th, 2009 3:26 AM

Alright, a quick question
Has anyone else noticed a movement permission error in platinum?
I noticed it on Route 225, it's two trees near two cut trees.
There's a space where you should be able to walk, but you can't..
EDIT: Just noticed why.
In diamond, the tree's closer to the stairs than it is in platinum..
And nintendo forgot to fix the movement permissions.

Stronkadonk April 13th, 2009 5:18 AM

Hey all, I just got Platinum, and I've heard that you can K.O. Giratina, Dialga, and Palkia without fretting. I have heard that you can defeat them, and then return to the Distortion World/Spear Pillar to re-capture them. Is this true?

Lycaeus April 13th, 2009 6:06 AM

Hey all! I'm trying to train level 50's to level 60's in Platinum. I don't want to run them through the E4 because I want the first time they go through the E4 as level 60's (I already beat the E4 once). Does anyone have any suggestions? I've been VS Seeking Spamming the Lopunny trainer on Route 222, which gives 5500+ exp (Pokemon was traded, plus Lucky Egg), but it takes four or five VS Seeks to get her to battle, and it's taking too long.
Thanks for any answers!!

Wichu April 13th, 2009 6:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Infinite Heartless Core (Post 4535618)
Hey all, I just got Platinum, and I've heard that you can K.O. Giratina, Dialga, and Palkia without fretting. I have heard that you can defeat them, and then return to the Distortion World/Spear Pillar to re-capture them. Is this true?

Not sure on Dialga and Palkia, but I know if you KO Giratina in the Distortion World, you can fight it once more in Turnback Cave. If you KO it that time, that's it; you won't be able to get it again.

Gymnotide April 13th, 2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wichu (Post 4535748)
Not sure on Dialga and Palkia, but I know if you KO Giratina in the Distortion World, you can fight it once more in Turnback Cave. If you KO it that time, that's it; you won't be able to get it again.

I am pretty sure that in Platinum, every time you defeat the Elite Four, the legendaries will appear again. But don't take my word for it and defeat them, then save.

CrasH April 13th, 2009 11:08 AM

Question about battling on Platinum.

I battled a friend yesterday, and he had a level 70 garchomp.. and all my guys were mid 50's. I looked all around, but is their a way to do a all pokemon level 100 battle like you could on d/p?

Forci Stikane April 13th, 2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CrasH (Post 4536381)
Question about battling on Platinum.

I battled a friend yesterday, and he had a level 70 garchomp.. and all my guys were mid 50's. I looked all around, but is their a way to do a all pokemon level 100 battle like you could on d/p?

The Level 100 Battle setting is still as present as it was in Diamond and Pearl, meaning that it is still located in the Wi-Fi Club selection. If you are referring to battling via local wireless, however, then you are pretty much out of luck.

CrasH April 13th, 2009 11:14 AM

Ohh. Got it.. Yeah we we're local battling.. That's stupid how you can't make them all 100... Why couldn't they just add that in!!!!

Kaseo April 13th, 2009 11:22 AM

What do people do and where do people go to raise their pokemon to lvl 100? Stark Mountain? Elite 4?

Forever Forum April 13th, 2009 11:23 AM

Quick question again about EV training.

I have 10 of each stat booster. Since you can only max out 2 stats via EV training, I should only give my Pokemon 2 stat boosters(10 each) and leave it at that? Because I'm thinking if I exceed 20 stat boosters, extra boosters will take up more EV's correct?

Which means I won't be able to max out 252 on a stat after I give it 10 boosters, right?

Gymnotide April 13th, 2009 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaseo (Post 4536452)
What do people do and where do people go to raise their pokemon to lvl 100? Stark Mountain? Elite 4?

Rare Candies are always the correct answer.

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Originally Posted by sUrfiNg_pIkacHu (Post 4536456)
Quick question again about EV training.

I have 10 of each stat booster. Since you can only max out 2 stats via EV training, I should only give my Pokemon 2 stat boosters(10 each) and leave it at that? Because I'm thinking if I exceed 20 stat boosters, extra boosters will take up more EV's correct?

Which means I won't be able to max out 252 on a stat after I give it 10 boosters, right?

Yeah. If you want to max out all your stats, you should have exactly 6 extra EVs. Since each gives 10, you will be allotting 4 extra EVs in the extra stat (aftering 10 of the ones you want to max).

Forever Forum April 13th, 2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4536458)
Rare Candies are always the correct answer.



Yeah. If you want to max out all your stats, you should have exactly 6 extra EVs. Since each gives 10, you will be allotting 4 extra EVs in the extra stat (aftering 10 of the ones you want to max).

For example, I have my Magby LV. 1. I want to max out it's Sp. Attack and Sp. Def.

Therefore at LV. 1, I would give it 10 Calcium and 10 Iron(forget if these are the correct names but lets just keep it at that for sake of argument). Which leaves 152 Ev's left for the Sp. Attack and Sp. Def stat.

Now after that, say if I were to give it 10 Hp Up, which will put 100 EV's for HP. This will then subtract how much potential EV's I can give to my Magby's Sp. Attack and Sp. Def correct?

So it would be wise to only keep it at 2 stats to give 100 EV's with stat boosters.

Forci Stikane April 13th, 2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sUrfiNg_pIkacHu (Post 4536487)
For example, I have my Magby LV. 1. I want to max out it's Sp. Attack and Sp. Def.

Therefore at LV. 1, I would give it 10 Calcium and 10 Iron(forget if these are the correct names but lets just keep it at that for sake of argument). Which leaves 152 Ev's left for the Sp. Attack and Sp. Def stat.

Now after that, say if I were to give it 10 Hp Up, which will put 100 EV's for HP. This will then subtract how much potential EV's I can give to my Magby's Sp. Attack and Sp. Def correct?

So it would be wise to only keep it at 2 stats to give 100 EV's with stat boosters.

Correct, as the EVs given by the vitamins still count towards a Pokemon's 510 EV limit.

...Oh, and just for the record, the names that you were looking for are Calcium and Zinc.

Forever Forum April 13th, 2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Forci Stikane (Post 4536498)
Correct, as the EVs given by the vitamins still count towards a Pokemon's 510 EV limit.

...Oh, and just for the record, the names that you were looking for are Calcium and Zinc.

Lol, thanxs Forci.

I knew I had the names mixed up. :D

Kaseo April 13th, 2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4536458)
Rare Candies are always the correct answer.

And so the best way for that is...the Pickup ability?

jigglyppuff8 April 13th, 2009 11:44 AM

Yes. Starting at lv. 41, you'll have a 10% chance of Picking up a Rare Candy. Also, you can exploit Emerald's easy to use cloning glitch if you have it.
Personally, I prefer sticking a Lucky Egg on my Pokemon and battling that one trainer with a Blissey on the Sandstorm Route (Route 228) since I get a boatload of experience from that.

Gymnotide April 13th, 2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaseo (Post 4536530)
And so the best way for that is...the Pickup ability?

You can Thieve some easy off the maids in the Pokemon Mansion.
Since, theoretically, nothing you do can adversely affect your stats after you have finished EV training, you can just battle things if you want... But I find Rare Candies a lot easier.

jigglyppuff8 April 13th, 2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4536579)
You can Thieve some easy off the maids in the Pokemon Mansion.
Since, theoretically, nothing you do can adversely affect your stats after you have finished EV training, you can just battle things if you want... But I find Rare Candies a lot easier.

*Wait, Platinum changed the Pokemon mansion? ...*

Correction. It's the Rich Boy and the Lady that have the Rare Candies (or maybe it is the Maids and I just don't know). Also, they both have Blissey and if their Pokemon get stronger after Vs. Seeker rematches (not 100% sure on this), then they are really good candidates for exp. grinding.

firekid115 April 13th, 2009 11:55 AM

im trying to clone,and ive cloned twice before using the GTS/CLOCK method (wait for the clock hand to spin 8 times then turn off ds.

But now,whenever i try to clone, when i get back on to GTS, it says "Deposit"

can anyone tell me what im doing wrong

PS:i also ,get the "corrupted file message

Gymnotide April 13th, 2009 5:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jigglyppuff8 (Post 4536612)
*Wait, Platinum changed the Pokemon mansion? ...*

Correction. It's the Rich Boy and the Lady that have the Rare Candies (or maybe it is the Maids and I just don't know). Also, they both have Blissey and if their Pokemon get stronger after Vs. Seeker rematches (not 100% sure on this), then they are really good candidates for exp. grinding.

Er yeah. I misread the page on the guidebook. After beating the 5 maids, you fight the trainer with the Blissey.

CrasH April 13th, 2009 7:21 PM

Can someone explain the full effects of the move substitute? Like when does it fade? Is there a max amount of turns/ damage? How does it calculate how much HP it takes away from you. If you get hit by hail/sandstorm does it screw it up. Ect.

jigglyppuff8 April 13th, 2009 7:44 PM

Substitutes take 1/4 of a Pokemon's HP when used and can take up to that amount. It won't fade after a certain amount of turns. Only when damage equal or greater than 1/4 of the Pokemon's HP is taken. Since the Pokemon takes damage during weather affects like Hail, it can be assumed that the Substitute doesn't take any damage.

Gymnotide April 13th, 2009 8:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jigglyppuff8 (Post 4537886)
Substitutes take 1/4 of a Pokemon's HP when used and can take up to that amount. It won't fade after a certain amount of turns. Only when damage equal or greater than 1/4 of the Pokemon's HP is taken. Since the Pokemon takes damage during weather affects like Hail, it can be assumed that the Substitute doesn't take any damage.

  • Substitutes and HP: It must also be added that Substitute can be removed by switching the Subbed Pokemon out, whether forced or not. Another caveat is that if you do not allot the correct amount of EVs into HP, you will only be able to make 3 Subs, while others can make 4. You'll generally want an odd number of HPs for maximum amount of Subs. Stealth Rock, Sandstorm, Hail, Spikes, etc. while not directly affecting the Substitute, may interrupt with making Substitutes by skewing the amount of HP the Pokemon has. In addition, if the Pokemon takes damage to drop its health below 25% of maximum, it will fail to make a Substitute.
  • Baton Pass and Substitute:You can Baton Pass a Substitute - in this case, the HP from the Substitute is passed on exactly as it was left off.
  • What Substitute blocks: Substitute will prevent the Pokemon from losing focus from Focus Punch, prevent it from being afflicted by a status or having its stats lowered (except by itself), and save it from non-attack moves (Acupressure, Block, damage form of Curse, Dream Eater, Embargo, Gastro Acid, Grudge, Heal Block, Leech Seed, Lock-On, Mean Look, Mimic, Mind Reader, Nightmare, Pain Split, Psycho Shift, Spider Web, Sketch, Switcheroo, Trick, Worry Seed, and Yawn).
  • What Substitute does not block: It will not prevent status afflicted via abilities like Effect Spore or Poison Point and will not prevent damage from Rough Skin or recoil from Life Orb or Take Down, etc. It will also not prevent status conferred through Toxic or Flame Orb, Synchronize, or Yawn.Substitute does not block Attract, Destiny Bond, Disable, Encore, Foresight, Guard Swap, Haze, Heart Swap, Imprison, Miracle Eye, Odor Sleuth, Perish Song, Power Swap, Psych Up, Roar, Role Play, Skill Swap, Spite, Taunt, Torment, Transform, or Whirlwind.
  • Abilities and Substitute: Abilities that absorb attacks will still function - Flash Fire will continue to eat up fire-type moves and Motor Drive will still make the Pokemon immune to electricity. Anger Point will still function through a Substitute; in fact, the only ability blocked by Substitute is Intimidate.
  • Reflecting damage and attacks: Counter, Mirror Coat, Bide and similar moves will not work on damage taken through a Substitute, but incoming Counter, Mirror Coat, etc. will attempt to afflict the Substitute. Substitute will still reflect stuff from Magic Coat. Likewise, berries that counter-attack (Enigma, Jaboca, and Rowap) will not function through a Substitute.
  • Multiple-Hit Attacks: Moves like Double Hit, Icicle Spear, Spike Cannon, etc. that hit the foe more than once will attempt to break the Substitute first and if there are any remaining hits left, those will connect with the foe.
  • Secondary Effects and Substitute: The secondary effects directed at the Subbed Pokemon of many attacks are negated when connecting with a Substitute. For example, Fire Spin will do damage, but NOT trap or inflict recurring damage for the next 2 to 5 turns like it says. Smellingsalt and Wake-Up Slap will not double in power and will not cure status. Knock Off will not drop an item. Secondary effects affecting the attacking Pokemon will still work (Rapid Spin, Ancientpower, Charge Beam, etc.).

CrasH April 13th, 2009 8:32 PM

Okay cool.

Yeah I'm using it for my Jolteon

Shadow Ball
T-Bolt
Substitute
Baton Pass.
Thanks for the help. That clears up all the questions I had!

Gymnotide April 13th, 2009 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CrasH (Post 4538052)
Okay cool.

Yeah I'm using it for my Jolteon

Shadow Ball
T-Bolt
Substitute
Baton Pass.
Thanks for the help. That clears up all the questions I had!

If you can, you should probably use HP Ice over S-Balls.

Kaseo April 14th, 2009 6:41 AM

Can a pokemon remember a move that it learned by TM?

PokéMartin April 14th, 2009 7:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaseo (Post 4539245)
Can a pokemon remember a move that it learned by TM?

No, afarid not. Sucks, doesn't it!?

lolwut April 14th, 2009 11:42 AM

someone told me to ask in here, so which pokemon would be used best for competitive battling in a team of 6?
Salamence
Dusknoir
Electivre
Jolteon
Rhyperior
Metagross
Golem
Milotic
Lugia
Camerupt
Tyranitar
Cresselia
Zapdos
Ho oh
Just which ones out of those and i didnt wanna post in the moveset thread because i dont need help with that i just need help making a team out of all of those.

randomspot555 April 14th, 2009 12:44 PM

No one can make a recommendation for a team just based on a list of species. the role it plays, availability to the player, etc... matters much more.

I'd suggest going to the Rate My Team a few forums down. They have a thread for this type of stuff where you can get recommendations, but you'll need to be much more specific than "*list of pokes* so which one????"


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