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PochamaPLUS April 26th, 2007 4:55 PM

My Mom Contacted Nintendo Today...
 
She was watching me play, and when I got to Celestia Town (sp?/name?), she saw what the Galaxy guy said about blowing the town up and said it was Terrorist Propaganda...so she called NOA..i was so embarrased.

I'm so mad @ my mom too..but now that i think about it, its kinda funny. What are your views on it?

Samson April 26th, 2007 4:59 PM

i thought it was strange and a little violent, but then again, there are pokemon that look like bombs that actually do *explode* XD

mrplanters April 26th, 2007 5:00 PM

ROFL. Wow this is freaking hilarious. I really don't see anything serious coming out of this.

Gyardosamped April 26th, 2007 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PochamaPLUS (Post 2459130)
She was watching me play, and when I got to Celestia Town (sp?/name?), she saw what the Galaxy guy said about blowing the town up and said it was Terrorist Propaganda...so she called NOA..i was so embarrased.

I'm so mad @ my mom too..but now that i think about it, its kinda funny. What are your views on it?

I've seen it in other games like R/S/E. I think it might be too violence.

Ichida April 26th, 2007 5:05 PM

>.< Good god... If Team Galactic - the ENEMIES in the game - blow up a lake, then why don't our nation's children all just go out and explode things? Yeah, right. <.<;

ChrisG14 April 26th, 2007 5:16 PM

Oh no! Diamond's gonna be banned in the US! :P

subaku April 26th, 2007 6:08 PM

Oh gods *rolleyes* first the airports now this...what's next? Just saying the word bomb?

FFX383 April 26th, 2007 6:17 PM

yo pochama, your kidding right?

Mika April 26th, 2007 6:18 PM

At least it's not Neo Leafhugging Canadian Propoganda... Imagine the chaos that would cause!

<.< -cough-

You poor child. D: -gathers into arms- Parents can be so whacked at times.

LawLessChaoz April 26th, 2007 8:50 PM

Hahhahahaha....you, I thought this would be about something good.

Xylitol April 27th, 2007 2:29 AM

Now let's see...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer_mom

There. Not to be mean or anything at the OP <:)

Autaven April 27th, 2007 3:43 AM

pahahaa this made me laugh. Did she write to them or call them? And what exactly did they reply???

Cherrim April 27th, 2007 3:47 AM

Ha, I'd like to hear the replay too. XD I'd hate to be Nintendo's PR for calls like that.

Anyway, I did think it was a little overboard for a Pokemon game when I got to the place, but sicne it is a Pokemon game, I knew nothing would come of it. In most other RPGs with their competent evil societies, the town probably would've blown up right when I got there or just after I left. And it would have been my hometown. But yeah, as soon as you beat the guy, he leaves. It's mostly just showing little kids that justice always prevails or something like that. I don't think it's enough to contact Nintendo or anything. :| Just a game, after all.

Stouph April 27th, 2007 4:24 AM

Hahaha! LOL!! If you live in the US don't go around saying there are Terrorists in your Pokémon D/P.. they'll arrest you and hold you for questioning!!! LMAO!!!

Samson April 27th, 2007 5:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 2459450)
It's mostly just showing little kids that justice always prevails or something like that. I don't think it's enough to contact Nintendo or anything. :| Just a game, after all.

true, but you can look at it inversely, and it could also be teaching kids that when you don't get things the way you want, you threaten to kill others or even worse, yourself (which has become more often in pre-teens as well as teens in just the last couple years). also, it can give the impression that bomb threats occur all the time. suddenly, any day you want to have a couple days off of school, you just send anonymous letters threatening to bomb it or shoot it up.

all i'm saying is that with all the given recent events, the situation of a bomb threat posed in a popular game might have a few negative outcomes.

they could've had the same scenario but just not discuss a bomb at all.

Ronin_RedWolf April 27th, 2007 5:32 AM

I hate to be the one to say this and this is not an attack at the OP's mom directly, but she is acting exactly like the terrorist want her to act. The whole point behind terrorism is to freak people out and to make them paranoid & scared of things they would otherwise not think twice about. By freaking out at even the smallest thing related to terrorism, you are basically saying "You win terrorist. I'm scared now.". You know how to beat terrorists (other than waging a full scale war on them)? You treat their acts the same way you treat a bully's acts. You ignore them. You don't show that they get to you, and you continue on.

Arcanine April 27th, 2007 7:27 AM

I'm sorry, but that's just a tad bit on the..... well stupid side (no offense to your mom. My mom is the same way and if given the chance she would do something like calling up NoA or some other game HQ just because of something in a game).
It's a game, seeing someone say "I'm going to blow ... up" is a game and won't make a kid go out and blow something up because he/she saw it in a Pokemon game.

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Originally Posted by Ronin_RedWolf (Post 2459516)
I hate to be the one to say this and this is not an attack at the OP's mom directly, but she is acting exactly like the terrorist want her to act. The whole point behind terrorism is to freak people out and to make them paranoid & scared of things they would otherwise not think twice about. By freaking out at even the smallest thing related to terrorism, you are basically saying "You win terrorist. I'm scared now.". You know how to beat terrorists (other than waging a full scale war on them)? You treat their acts the same way you treat a bully's acts. You ignore them. You don't show that they get to you, and you continue on.

And you hit the nail right on the head. Terrorism isn't all about killing, it's about striking fear in people's hearts. If you got a strange package sitting on your porch/steps, and someone called your house and said "The package at your front door is a bomb" you're going to be on the afraid or at least have the thought cross your mind that it might be a bomb.

I'm not saying Nintendo was trying to freak out a bunch of people, it's a game, and people need to understand the line between real life and games.

Samson April 27th, 2007 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanine (Post 2459557)
I'm not saying Nintendo was trying to freak out a bunch of people, it's a game, and people need to understand the line between real life and games.

bombs are very real. bomb threats are very real.

i find it strange that you can have quite that opinion and yet you ARE an administrator.

wakachamo April 27th, 2007 10:32 AM

^Being an admin at PC doesn't have anything to do with bomb threats.

Sure, his/her mother was being cautious, but like Red Wolf said, it's exactly how terrorists expect her to ask. Plus, it's a little too exaggerating, come to think of it, no? I mean, it's a freaking game that uses a top-down style with huge heads and disembodied arms, little creatures that scratch and screech at each other, and we get this reaction?

This is starting to remind me of the grandma looking for a Mario game for her grandson's 360.

n3 April 27th, 2007 11:01 AM

=\ i dont beleive it because ...well actually i kinda do o.o

from the chat room:

[15:00:11]‹ @bgt › i feel like locking the thread just because of its retardness.

Jorah April 27th, 2007 12:13 PM

Don't worry everyone! We shall all be saved with the power of political correctness and nanny-like state's! And there was me thinking it was stupid that they left out the white and black magic and soul stuff from FRLG; who would say anything about that? Obviously I was wrong.

Yes, little kiddies are going to want to bomb everyone, in a game where you travel around the world by yourself at 10, use animals that mindlessly obey whatever you say, make your money by making animals fight until they faint, because some person out of a million people in some team that are you completly defeat said something about a bomb. Yes people, very realistic.

spike6958 April 27th, 2007 2:04 PM

wow phoning NoA that's a bit OTT, does she still let you play the game?

Samson April 27th, 2007 2:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wakachamo (Post 2459703)
^Being an admin at PC doesn't have anything to do with bomb threats.

Sure, his/her mother was being cautious, but like Red Wolf said, it's exactly how terrorists expect her to ask. Plus, it's a little too exaggerating, come to think of it, no? I mean, it's a freaking game that uses a top-down style with huge heads and disembodied arms, little creatures that scratch and screech at each other, and we get this reaction?

This is starting to remind me of the grandma looking for a Mario game for her grandson's 360.

okay, listen. being an admin at a Pokemon forum has A LOT to do with that admin's feelings towards the extent of vulgarity and violence in a Pokemon game. why do you think PC has a vulgarity filter? it's there because as a forum that will attract many children, the administration must be weary of what is exposed to any potential visitor. it's NOT there because terrorists WANT us to use profane language.

that's just silly. there's no logic in that. the motives of terrorists have nothing to do with how the public should treat profanities, especially when considering the way D/P presented the bomb situation. bombs are a BIG deal and bomb threats should be just as BIG, and if game developers continue to present bombs in such a small, putrefied light, then their audiences, children, will grow up thinking they aren't a big deal, and will probably make a couple bomb threats a year just to get a few days off.

if you think there's no problem with that, then i'm the fool for thinking i could have a reasonable discussion on a pokemon forum.

wakachamo April 27th, 2007 4:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2459860)
okay, listen. being an admin at a Pokemon forum has A LOT to do with that admin's feelings towards the extent of vulgarity and violence in a Pokemon game. why do you think PC has a vulgarity filter? it's there because as a forum that will attract many children, the administration must be weary of what is exposed to any potential visitor. it's NOT there because terrorists WANT us to use profane language.

that's just silly. there's no logic in that. the motives of terrorists have nothing to do with how the public should treat profanities, especially when considering the way D/P presented the bomb situation. bombs are a BIG deal and bomb threats should be just as BIG, and if game developers continue to present bombs in such a small, putrefied light, then their audiences, children, will grow up thinking they aren't a big deal, and will probably make a couple bomb threats a year just to get a few days off.

if you think there's no problem with that, then i'm the fool for thinking i could have a reasonable discussion on a pokemon forum.

Could you explain the way they presented this bomb incident? And I'm sorry, kids aren't to be influenced by a game. In fact, if you update yourself a little, a recent study proves that violence in games does not affect a person's inner personality or inside rage, nor does it inspire a kid to do something completely dangerous in the near/far future.

I never said bombs weren't a big deal, but the way we interpret these quotes on a game is indeed a big deal. We should always have two points of view in order to make an unbiased point, like the one I'm about to present right here.

Think of it on the other side. The kid might see the Team Galactic member talking about blowing up a city. However, he's identified that Team Galactic member as a bad person, since Team Galactic are interpreted as the villains of the game. Sure, if your own character were to talk about a thread like that, then that'd be incredibly serious, but Nintendo's not stupid. Hence, Galactic being identified as the villains, they're interpreted as a bad example to society. Remember, we're talking about a psychological belief under the mind of a basic child, say, little Tommy.

And thus I end my point once again with Arcanine's quote that summarizes my beliefs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanine (Post 2459557)
I'm sorry, but that's just a tad bit on the..... well stupid side (no offense to your mom. My mom is the same way and if given the chance she would do something like calling up NoA or some other game HQ just because of something in a game).
It's a game, seeing someone say "I'm going to blow ... up" is a game and won't make a kid go out and blow something up because he/she saw it in a Pokemon game.

And you hit the nail right on the head. Terrorism isn't all about killing, it's about striking fear in people's hearts. If you got a strange package sitting on your porch/steps, and someone called your house and said "The package at your front door is a bomb" you're going to be on the afraid or at least have the thought cross your mind that it might be a bomb.

I'm not saying Nintendo was trying to freak out a bunch of people, it's a game, and people need to understand the line between real life and games.


~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ April 27th, 2007 4:08 PM

Quote:

And you hit the nail right on the head. Terrorism isn't all about killing, it's about striking fear in people's hearts. If you got a strange package sitting on your porch/steps, and someone called your house and said "The package at your front door is a bomb" you're going to be on the afraid or at least have the thought cross your mind that it might be a bomb

And you hit it right on the head also Arcanine. I would be scared also


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Could you explain the way they presented this bomb incident? And I'm sorry, kids aren't to be influenced by a game. In fact, if you update yourself a little, a resent study proves that violence in games does not affect a person's inner personality or inside rage, nor does it inspire a kid to do something completely dangerous in the near/far future.
your right it doesn't affect the person's feelings, but sometimes its good to have violent games because you can take your negative energy out of the thing or person your killing. It helps me alot. now this thread is turning into bombs and terroist now 0.o

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~


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