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why is there a church inn DP???could it be subliminal messaging?
just tell me what u guys htink about the church in hearthrome..personally i think it is ridiculous..tho it doesnt bother me..i think the game would be much better off without it...last thing we need is another scientology crap..where ppl worship pikachu
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Still, no items can be found in it, no hints, no goodies... so why is it there?? |
It shows you how real the legend of Arceus really is. I think the church is one that worships Arceus, so you can see that it's not just a tale that was passed down from generation to generation, but was actually something sacred and believed to be true.
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Also the ppl seem pretty sad in there could be nostalgic for the old pokemon tower in R/B and LG/FR. Just a thought...And yes as you said didn't say 'Church' so I believed it to be a memorial site like in older versions.
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There's also the Snowpoint Temple. I wonder what all these different spiritual centers worship.
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I agree...It is nothing more than an object to renforce the storyline. It brings a connection between you and the characters...You belive in God, They belive in Aruseus...the theme is there to connect it to sacredness...It helps you understand how sacred the legend it to the characters in the game...Nothing more to it...As long you know how to separate the good teaching values in Pokemon games from fictional fluff that is used to communicate those values to a broad audience...You must decide what you belive is right and wrong...No game should ever dictate that. If you cannot decide for yourself then go to your pastor or religious expert or even a trusted friend or your parents...Once you know Right from Wrong you will automatically sort out the folly and will not have to worry about learning something wrong from it again...Just dont overreact. Nintendo has made sure that most of the content doesnt offend anyone...Except the odd few you can never please *coughextremistscough*
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Seriously, is it really affecting your gameplay, or do you just like to whine about things? It isn't even a church. It's probably the same as the pokemon tower in Lavender town, minus the ghosts and usefulness. If you don't like it, don't go in. I like it. It makes the town less dull and boring, and more unique. |
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I don't have a problem with talking about this subject. I'm glad that Aethos brought it up, cuz it did bring more discussion to the forums. (BTW, I'm agnostic).
Regigigasism is probably the worst name for a religion ever. LOL. It just rolls off your tongue, doesn't it? [/sarcasm lol] |
Regigigasismregigigasismregigigasism. XDD.
And yeah, I could be called agnostic as well. I really don't know, or care, why they put a church in Hearthome, but the temple is like a staple of RPGs, to guard some secret power, in this case Regigigas. |
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I'm personally a Frisbeetarianist... We believe that when you die, your soul flies up and gets stuck on the roof. I've been looking into Pastafarianism also. |
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I heard it was an Art Musiem (Sp?). I don't think they would put religion in Pokemon, otherwise they'd be sued to hell. =(
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Yeeeah!
uhcakip pihsrow uoy ekam ot segassem lanimilbus stup odnetnin Honestly, I'm the Subliminal Message expert. If I spotted a message in Pokemon, I'm sure I'd notice that. Did you listen to Led Zeppelin's Stairway To Heaven Backwards? THAT is a subliminal message for ya! And no wimps can do. |
I think it wouldn't effect the game either way, it's not like it has a sign saying "YOUR RELIGION SUCKS!" It's a church, just a church, nothing more than pixels.
Another opinion I have is, maybe Nintendo, and all of them are making up for that "swastika" incident on the trainer card with Golbat on it. |
They don't need to make up for anything regarding the swastika. In eastern cultures, the swastika originates in India and has arms pointing left (although it's also been written with the arms pointing right) and symbolizes life. The Nazi swastika that you're all familiar with was a deliberate corruption of the eastern swastika (its arms point right).
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i love how they took the time to create a whole in-depth meaning of the universe according to pokemon, gave me a good laugh :P
the universe was created by the great one! and our area was created by a spirit with 3 gods to keep it in balance. and then at the same time they are alway trying to force evolution down our throats ;) and rowan said that all pokemon evolve except legendaries, well what about spiritomb and chatot? eh? EH? |
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Take a look at a few alcohol ads, or the "flower" paintings of Georgia O'Keeffe... THOSE, my friend, are true blue subliminal messages. |
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I don't think it matters. They never said it affiliated into any religion (unless it was meant to be meant for the legendary pokemon) so it can't offend anyone and it shouldn't.
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Anyways, about the " church ", uh.. I got the quote from the guy that is looking at the huge pictures in side the church with the big mountain on it and it says " And there do I see my fater. My som. My life. And there do I see nature. Pokemon. The world. " As for another girl in the church here is what I got " There are still words not everyone can describe... The words are " Love" and "Joy ". " I really think this is a shrine of some legendaries of some sort. Althought I get an idea from looking at the pictures in the supposed " Church " that it looks like a mountain bursting smoke. Can it be the " POKEMON MOVIE 9 " well from it. ?? |
i think it is... but my bad... i didn't mean 4 it 2 b like that... just makin a joke...
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dont blow what i said out of proporcion..i was just stating it slightly bothers me..i know it reinforces the storyline yet i dont think it was for the better just by honest opinion...and yeah.....srry to say scientology was bad i apologise......anyways im not here to make fun of anyones religion just saying its a little weird
once again i apologise i wont do it again i really didnt mean to offend anyone....one of my friends is scientologist and me and him crack jokes at each other all the time...he makes fun of god and stuf..anyways it wasnt my pale to say.... one more thing... the architecture of the church is clearly made to look like a romannesque church....BUT all the other ones are temples like daikijin or some japanese derivative..woulnt this be hurting the storyline...i knwo its really minute detail yet i just wanted to point it out Mod edit: Don't double post. Use the Edit button. Look at the bottom of your post and you should see it. ;3 |
I was a bit surprised when I saw that building. I thought, "A church in D/P?!?!" But, the thought that it could be to worship Arceus never came to me. Maybe it'll play a role in the 'Emerald' of the game?
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I think the church is irrelevant. If anything, it adds a little realism to the city. Religion was a huge part in the development of civilization in the real world, and there are temples like that everywhere in the real world, so why not? It doesn't once tell you to worship God or Budda, or Allah, or even Arcaus.
Also, the game says that mythology states that Arcaus is the creator. MYTHOLOGY. |
I agree...It's just a little something they threw in there to reinfoce the Idea that Pokemon have been around since the beginning of time. In the game of course.
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the church is no different then the towers that dead pokemon rest in, it's a place where people can go to pray for their lost pokemon, if they do not want to head to the solaceon tower...
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Technically, it's not a church.
Most churches have pews, the one in the game has tables, and no alter. |
OP takes pokemon too seriously.
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In my opinion I think the Pokémon world has its own world - Pokémonism. That should explain a lot, since the priest/weird-looking dude at the front talks about Pokémon. =P
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Ichida i want to let you know, your words have impacted me so much that i have quoted you in my sig :P
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Arceus is GOD. PUNISHMENT!!!!
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Religion is a part of culture. Just because you're an atheist doesn't mean the entire Pokemon world has to be too. -__- Just walk by it the same way I walk by real churches. (Well I checked the place pretty good for some items and left sad, actually...) |
I was atheist until i discovered CMmewtwo. seeing is believing....
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"Every" nonlegendary Pokemon? No... You're forgetting Lapras, Pinsir, Ditto, Dunsparce, Spinda, etc.
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Graceofbaal, I don't intend any harm here, but when you say you are an atheist, do you mean you support the big bang theory?
Because that's what atheism is.. thing is, how is that any more founded than any religions beliefs in how the universe started? Most people who claim to be atheist are actually too dumb to be an atheist as they don't understand what the word means, or even if they do, they can't explain what makes atheism more logical than any other religion. I don't follow any religion, I'm just wondering if you know what you are talking about when you say you are an atheist. As for the "church" in the game, it doesn't bother me at all, I paid virtually no attention to it. :P |
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Now this a is a standing ovasion declaration...*claps for Turismo-kun* ^_^ |
I really dont care about the church and it doesn't bother me one bit.
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To add to the conversation, I don't think the church in Hearthome was meant to be taken so seriously. It's just there for realism, cuz religion is something that exists (or at least has a history) in almost every culture. IMO, a better step toward realism is kitchens and bathrooms. For some reason, almost all the houses in Pokemon are one-story and one-room. Nobody gets any privacy. Maybe that's what they're praying for in the church: some privacy please. |
Wow, this thread is going way too off-topic, and I predict it going even more off-topic, hence me closing it now.
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