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ihaveaquestion May 17th, 2007 4:28 PM

i really hope that it is a catholic church...

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Gyardosamped May 17th, 2007 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ihaveaquestion (Post 2484801)
i really hope that it is a catholic church...

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Originally Posted by Airadriel (Post 2483777)
ihaveaquestion, as the rules clearly state "Do not take a person's age, sex, sexuality, religion, race or color and use it in any derogatory manner.

Quote from the mod:

Anyways, about the " church ", uh.. I got the quote from the guy that is looking at the huge pictures in side the church with the big mountain on it and it says " And there do I see my fater. My som. My life.

And there do I see nature. Pokemon. The world. "

As for another girl in the church here is what I got " There are still words not everyone can describe...

The words are " Love" and "Joy ". "

I really think this is a shrine of some legendaries of some sort. Althought I get an idea from looking at the pictures in the supposed " Church " that it looks like a mountain bursting smoke. Can it be the " POKEMON MOVIE 9 " well from it. ??

ihaveaquestion May 17th, 2007 5:01 PM

i think it is... but my bad... i didn't mean 4 it 2 b like that... just makin a joke...

Aethos May 17th, 2007 6:26 PM

dont blow what i said out of proporcion..i was just stating it slightly bothers me..i know it reinforces the storyline yet i dont think it was for the better just by honest opinion...and yeah.....srry to say scientology was bad i apologise......anyways im not here to make fun of anyones religion just saying its a little weird

once again i apologise i wont do it again i really didnt mean to offend anyone....one of my friends is scientologist and me and him crack jokes at each other all the time...he makes fun of god and stuf..anyways it wasnt my pale to say....

one more thing...
the architecture of the church is clearly made to look like a romannesque church....BUT all the other ones are temples like daikijin or some japanese derivative..woulnt this be hurting the storyline...i knwo its really minute detail yet i just wanted to point it out

Mod edit: Don't double post. Use the Edit button. Look at the bottom of your post and you should see it. ;3

Blaziken626 May 17th, 2007 6:36 PM

I was a bit surprised when I saw that building. I thought, "A church in D/P?!?!" But, the thought that it could be to worship Arceus never came to me. Maybe it'll play a role in the 'Emerald' of the game?

Innagadadavida May 17th, 2007 7:28 PM

I think the church is irrelevant. If anything, it adds a little realism to the city. Religion was a huge part in the development of civilization in the real world, and there are temples like that everywhere in the real world, so why not? It doesn't once tell you to worship God or Budda, or Allah, or even Arcaus.

Also, the game says that mythology states that Arcaus is the creator. MYTHOLOGY.

Melody May 17th, 2007 7:46 PM

I agree...It's just a little something they threw in there to reinfoce the Idea that Pokemon have been around since the beginning of time. In the game of course.

Myzou May 18th, 2007 1:24 AM

the church is no different then the towers that dead pokemon rest in, it's a place where people can go to pray for their lost pokemon, if they do not want to head to the solaceon tower...

Steve Z May 18th, 2007 5:13 AM

Technically, it's not a church.
Most churches have pews, the one in the game has tables, and no alter.

lanceaaron May 18th, 2007 6:08 AM

OP takes pokemon too seriously.

Megaa May 18th, 2007 6:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lanceaaron (Post 2485572)
OP takes pokemon too seriously.

Person who got offended by the curch takes pokemon too seriously.

Jirachi3 May 18th, 2007 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxim (Post 2483785)
Did you listen to Led Zeppelin's Stairway To Heaven Backwards?
THAT is a subliminal message for ya!

Yea...how would i go about doing that?

wakachamo May 18th, 2007 1:52 PM

In my opinion I think the Pokémon world has its own world - Pokémonism. That should explain a lot, since the priest/weird-looking dude at the front talks about Pokémon. =P

Jirachi3 May 18th, 2007 1:53 PM

Ichida i want to let you know, your words have impacted me so much that i have quoted you in my sig :P

Portujesus May 18th, 2007 2:05 PM

Arceus is GOD. PUNISHMENT!!!!

Jirachi3 May 18th, 2007 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Portujesus (Post 2486151)
Arceus is GOD. PUNISHMENT!!!!

Is it just me or does any1 think its ironic this guy has "jesus" in his name?

wakachamo May 18th, 2007 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jirachi3 (Post 2486129)
Ichida i want to let you know, your words have impacted me so much that i have quoted you in my sig :P

Well to be honest people mention hints to Arceus an awful lot in D/P - especially the plates, obviously, but it looks as if people are conscious that something exists beyong Dialga/Palkia.

Portujesus May 18th, 2007 2:42 PM

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Originally Posted by graceofbaal (Post 2484306)
Actually, from a psychological stance, "backward messages" don't do anything to your brain. And it turns out that the whole "backwards" song revolution is quite pointless. If I play a piece backwards and tell you I hear "Jesus loves pork chops"... you'll listen for that, and probably hear it.

Take a look at a few alcohol ads, or the "flower" paintings of Georgia O'Keeffe... THOSE, my friend, are true blue subliminal messages.

Thank you. I just found a way to stop playing pokémon. New hobby!:D

Luminous_Reaver May 18th, 2007 4:30 PM

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Originally Posted by graceofbaal (Post 2483728)
But there's already a "pokemon tower" in the game, where you get Strength. It has all the makings of a sort of religious temple, but maybe it could be in the name of a certain Pokemon. It really didn't bother me too too much, but it did raise an eyebrow.

Who cares.
Religion is a part of culture. Just because you're an atheist doesn't mean the entire Pokemon world has to be too. -__-
Just walk by it the same way I walk by real churches.

(Well I checked the place pretty good for some items and left sad, actually...)

Archer May 18th, 2007 11:11 PM

I was atheist until i discovered CMmewtwo. seeing is believing....

theclaw May 18th, 2007 11:32 PM

"Every" nonlegendary Pokemon? No... You're forgetting Lapras, Pinsir, Ditto, Dunsparce, Spinda, etc.

Yani May 19th, 2007 3:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Aethos (Post 2483669)
just tell me what u guys htink about the church in hearthrome..personally i think it is ridiculous..tho it doesnt bother me..i think the game would be much better off without it...last thing we need is another scientology crap..where ppl worship pikachu

This one's kinda funny....^_^

Turismo2029 May 19th, 2007 3:27 AM

Graceofbaal, I don't intend any harm here, but when you say you are an atheist, do you mean you support the big bang theory?

Because that's what atheism is.. thing is, how is that any more founded than any religions beliefs in how the universe started?

Most people who claim to be atheist are actually too dumb to be an atheist as they don't understand what the word means, or even if they do, they can't explain what makes atheism more logical than any other religion.

I don't follow any religion, I'm just wondering if you know what you are talking about when you say you are an atheist.

As for the "church" in the game, it doesn't bother me at all, I paid virtually no attention to it. :P

Yani May 19th, 2007 3:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Turismo2029 (Post 2486940)
Graceofbaal, I don't intend any harm here, but when you say you are an atheist, do you mean you support the big bang theory?

Because that's what atheism is.. thing is, how is that any more founded than any religions beliefs in how the universe started?

Most people who claim to be atheist are actually too dumb to be an atheist as they don't understand what the word means, or even if they do, they can't explain what makes atheism more logical than any other religion.

I don't follow any religion, I'm just wondering if you know what you are talking about when you say you are an atheist.

As for the "church" in the game, it doesn't bother me at all, I paid virtually no attention to it. :P


Now this a is a standing ovasion declaration...*claps for Turismo-kun* ^_^

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ May 19th, 2007 3:48 AM

I really dont care about the church and it doesn't bother me one bit.

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~


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