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~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ May 19th, 2007 9:48 AM

~*!*~worst Moves Of 1st/2nd Generation~*!*~
 
As you can think of the worst moves that Nintendo can make of and should have cut out in the future but kept them

I couldn't stand Flash and Splash

you?

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

Ayano Katagiri May 19th, 2007 3:12 PM

Splash was a ridiculous move, but Flash was actually made better in D/P compared to 1-3rd gen.

Always and Never May 19th, 2007 4:14 PM

I hate sweet scent. With the add-on of those abilities that attract pokemon, what's the point?

Timbjerr May 22nd, 2007 7:45 PM

Rock Smash

Why they made it an HM attack (unable to be deleted until late in the game by the move deleter) in Ru/Sa...I don't know...

Yoshi318 May 22nd, 2007 8:33 PM

i strongly dislike the moves...light screen/reflect, not really sure why , but they just seemed like a waste to me they were cool because they raised defense and stuff, but they ment absolutely nothin to me...

Inugami May 23rd, 2007 3:51 PM

I can't stand Flash (Worthless HM) and Rocksmash (Low attack HM)
Splash (worthless)

I'm glad they removed flash as an HM in D/P

~Misty~ May 29th, 2007 3:22 PM

I personally (even though it was a great strategic move) hated Swagger, It killed my Pokemon too often! Of course I never had the berry to cure it!

Warheart May 30th, 2007 2:26 PM

Flash; as an HM in older gen. games, once you left rock tunnel, it just became a complete waste of space =/

Oh, and sing, just thinking back to years ago when I had first tried to catch a jigglypuff. That moved pissed me off so much...

Magnezone May 31st, 2007 1:24 AM

What was the point of Waterfall in R/B/Y? Two Pokemon got it, and it was better to teach them surf anyway. Waterfall and Surf both have 15 PP, but Waterfall hits 80 and Surf hits 95. And it's always useful to have a Pokemon with Surf in your team. But Waterfall? Even in G/S/C it was useless unless you needed it as an HM, few trainers would give their strong water types Waterfall.

umbros June 8th, 2007 5:44 AM

well, everybody hates Splash, and i hated Flash for the mere fact that a move that would reduce accuracy was so inaccurate itself. also, i hate Dynamicpunch and Zap Cannon. i don't do much with the "luck" moves, and i hated that they'd be much more likely to work for all of my opponents than when i used them.

Tommy June 8th, 2007 7:57 AM

I definitely think Rock Smash was the worst move. Why they made it a HM in 3rd Gen I honestly do not know. Weak base attack, and to smash rocks for Pokemon commonly found somewhere else or given to you by that dude in Cianwood? Not good.

Splash has lol value when people use it against you, seriously.

Ftkatyowser June 8th, 2007 8:16 AM

I hate the fact that most o the HMs are either Water or flying type, so you have to Overuse HMs on one of your compatible team pokemon, and then when your pokemon goes to learn a good move you have to either find a ton of heartscales or delete one of the moves you want.

Erimgard June 8th, 2007 12:23 PM

well they made them better in later games, but Fissure, Guillitone, and Horn Drill, I believe, were practically useless. they only worked against normal/fighting AND they were all 30% accurate or less. terrible moves.

Kraka-chan June 9th, 2007 12:17 AM

I agree that Flash and Splash are useless moves.

Flash is only good for lighting some of the caves (like the Rock Tunnel, was it, in R/B/Y) but it's useless in battle. The move itself isn't accurate (about 70% I think) and if your strategy was to lower the opponents accuracy before attacking, there are other moves (like the humble Sand Attack) that do the job just as good.

As for Spalsh. It's the most annoying move, and it doesn't even do anything. It's even annoying when you're fighting against a Fisherman and his army of Magikarp and they hardly do anything but Splash. What's the point? Where's the challenge?

Kitori_theTeamAquaSuicune June 14th, 2007 10:27 AM

Would splash even be considered a move?! XD

41victory June 14th, 2007 10:34 AM

i dont know why but i hate fire spin, wirlpool and toxic
toxic is just annoying and the other two suck
im not sure if its considered a move but also stuggle its stupid

the3rdhardyboy June 15th, 2007 2:35 AM

splash i hated worse flash i hated as well you are not alone lolz

I took the scythe. June 23rd, 2007 11:01 AM

Don't go freaking out on me just because dragon semi-uberz learn it, but i was very unimpressed with Hyperbeam in the metal generation. In the first generation, you only had to recharge if you didn't make the enemy pokemon faint. But even if you kill the other pokemon in the second generation, you have to recharge after it.

Hyper beam does 150 damage, but you can't attack your second turn. Assuming the enemy isn't poisoned/burned, that means you're doing 75 damage each turn. A move like crunch, thrash, outrage, or even STRENGTH (which does 80) used in two consecutive turns will outdamage it.

Pathetic.

Kraka-chan June 25th, 2007 3:10 AM

Quote:

im not sure if its considered a move but also stuggle its stupid
Well, Struggle isn't a move as such since your Pokemon only use it when they completely run out of PP.
(Then again, it's really irritating when you're trying to catch a Legendary Pokemon. It's a long battle, they soon run out of moves, and then they KO themeselves with Struggle! Wah!)

The Real AAA June 25th, 2007 11:35 AM

Almost all of the HM moves and Splash

johnnykenny1234 June 26th, 2007 3:35 AM

confuse ray was so annoying when verseing hard opponents like the elite 4

Sweet Candace June 26th, 2007 5:58 AM

The worst moves in those games:

Flash (Thank God the put the Move Deleter in the 2nd Gen, but he way all the way in Blackthorn)
Splash
Tail Whip & Growl
Confuse Ray & Mean Look (I like them, but when the opponenet uses them, I don't like it)

Crimson Arcanine June 26th, 2007 6:34 AM

Splash, Disable and Constrict - My top 3 of worse moves in the 1st two generations

Sweet Scent had uses but sucked in battle
So did Flash, it was a little better in the metal generations.
Bubble and Vine Whip were also very bad moves, Suupersonic is and remains poor and so did most of the multi-turn moves like Pin Missile and Doubleslap

Shining Dragonite June 29th, 2007 2:42 PM

Vine whip, which was horribly weak and only had 10pp XD

ihw666 July 1st, 2007 11:36 AM

definitely splash. and also flash.


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