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Prince of Desert May 23rd, 2007 4:14 PM

need 12 pokemon movesets plz.
 
My couz asked me to post his D/P team to have a better moveset and I need to have a better moveset for my team too. So I'm going to ask better moveset for 12 pokemons.

Here's my team:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa160.png
Feraligatr @ Leftovers
Adamant nature
Attacks:
- Aqua tail
- Avanlanche
- Earthquake
- Sword Dance

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa466.png
Electivire @Life Orb
Hasty Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa477.png
Dusknoir @Leftovers
Careful Nature
- Shadow Punch
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split
- Earthquake

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa149.png
Dragonite @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch/Fire Blast
-Dragon Dance

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa059.png
Arcanine @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
- Flare Drive
- Extremespeed
- Crunch
- Thunder Fang

I don't know which pokemon I should put for my 6th slot. If someone could suggest a good pokemon for my 6th slot with a good moveset, that would be great.

My couz's team:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa157.png
Typhlosion @ ???
??? Nature
- Flamethrower
- ???
- ???
- ???
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa026.png
Raichu @ ???
??? Nature
- Thunder Bolt
- Subtitute
- Focus Punch
- Return/ Grass Knot
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa055.png
Golduck @ ???
??? Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Calm mind
- Psychic
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa214.png
Heracross @ ???
??? Nature
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa373.png
Salamence @ ???
??? Nature
- Dragon claw
- Fire Blast
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa473.png
Mamoswine @ ???
??? Nature
- Avalanche
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Hail

Samson May 23rd, 2007 4:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince of Desert (Post 2494175)
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa160.png
Feraligatr @ Leftovers
Adamant or Jolly nature
Attacks:
- Aqua tail/Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance/Brick Break

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa477.png
Dusknoir @Leftovers
Careful Nature
- Shadow Punch/Thunder Punch
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split
- Brick Break

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa149.png
Dragonite @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
-Outrage
-Thunder Punch
-Fire Punch/Fire Blast/Surf
-Dragon Dance

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa059.png
Arcanine @Choice Band/Leftovers
Adamant Nature
- Flare Drive/Flamethrower
- Extremespeed/Substitute
- Crunch/Reversal
- Thunder Fang

My couz's team:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa157.png
Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf
??? Nature
- Eruption
- Focus Blast
- Thunder Punch
- Shadow Claw

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa026.png
Raichu @ Leftovers
Modest/Timid Nature
- Thunder Bolt
- Thunder Wave
- Focus Blast
- Grass Knot

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa373.png
Salamence @ Life Orb
??? Nature
- Dragon claw
- Fire Blast
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa473.png
Mamoswine @ ???
Jolly/Adamant/Impish Nature
- Ice Shard
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

there are my suggestions. don't doubt Reversal Arcanine one bit. i always use him last and he wreaks HAVOC.

Paranoia May 24th, 2007 12:24 AM

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa473.png<3

Mamoswine @ Leftovers (They help him, I bred mine to 23 IVs in Hp, for maximum leftover recovery, so yeah, it leaves you with 416 (If with max EVs) out of the maximum he can have, which is 424, 8 off isn't that bad.
Jolly (Idk if it helps him, but it helps against meta, with his meteor mash.)
- Ice Shard
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Hail (I don't like Samson's idea, he is too slow to stealth rock, then try attack, but that's just my opinion)

And that is my set, I love my mamo, thanks to Samson, and his awesome ninjask. (Mine now, mwahaha, well not his, I made my own)

There is one problem with this big guy, He is heavy, which, idk for sure, makes grassknot > 100, which would hurt him, and so does suck, So it would be smart not to switch in on a starmie as she would also have surf

Samson May 24th, 2007 7:29 AM

well actually, ALL ground pokemon have a death wish if you consider both Grass Knot and Energy Ball.

and you're right, it's too slow, but that's what ice shard is for. and also, hail is a wasted slot for him. it only increases his evasion and causes very little damage to EVERYONE who isn't an ice type for 5 turns. even with his evasion up, Flamethrower is still gonna hit him every time. if you waste a slot putting hail up, you'll be destroying the opportunity to take a potential 1/4 of HP from dragons and 1/2 from charizard. hell, even a simple 1/8 to anybody else is awesome, rather the 1/16 that Hail does for a measly 5 turns.

Iceman3k May 24th, 2007 8:06 AM

Looks like I got my work cut out here...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince of Desert (Post 2494175)
Here's my team:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa160.png
Feraligatr @ Leftovers
Adamant nature
Attacks:
- Aqua tail
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa466.png
Electivire @Life Orb
Hasty Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch
- Cross Chop
Earthquake isn't necissarly needed since Cross Chop is doing its job.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa477.png
Dusknoir @Leftovers
Careful Nature
- Shadow Punch / Thunderpunch
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split
- Focus Punch

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa149.png
Dragonite @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Claw / Dragon Rush
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch
- Dragon Dance
Although Outrage is powerful, it's only luring in a Tank or some Random Steel Type to block it, and it confuses you.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa059.png
Arcanine @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
- Flare Drive
- Extremespeed
- Crunch
- Thunder Fang
Good enough. You should probably give Reversal Arcanine a try like Samson said.

I don't know which pokemon I should put for my 6th slot. If someone could suggest a good pokemon for my 6th slot with a good moveset, that would be great.
We'll get to that later

My couz's team:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa157.png
Typhlosion @ Heat Rock
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Sunny Day
- Solarbeam
- Hidden Power (Ice)
SunnyBeaming Typhlosion can be outrageously sinister if used properly.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa026.png
Raichu @ ???
Timid Nature
- Thunder Bolt
- Subtitute
- Nasty Plot
- Grass Knot
Nasty Plot is your friend.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa055.png
Golduck @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Calm mind
- Psychic
You're on the right track.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa214.png
Heracross @ Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge
- Close Combat
- Night Slash / Reversal / Sleep Talk
Reversal is another viable option if you get to low health. It's evil.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa373.png
Salamence @ Life Orb
Naughty Nature
- Dragon claw
- Fire Blast
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
Game Freak sucks for not giving Sala better options. =(

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa473.png
Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
- Ice Fang
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Substitute
For some odd reason, this is what I run =/

Samson probably had better advice than I did, but I tried a little.

Prince of Desert May 24th, 2007 2:32 PM

Thanks for the movesets but there is a empty slot and I dont know whick pokemon I should put. I was thinking of maybe putting a grass type like Leafeon or Ludicolo.

Iceman3k May 24th, 2007 4:34 PM

Yeah, about that...

Roserade (F) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 228 Spd / 32 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Sleep Powder
- Spikes
- Energy Ball / Grass Knot
- Aromatherapy / Sludge Bomb
Sleep Powder, then set up a set of Spikes on whatever switches in.

Prince of Desert May 25th, 2007 3:17 AM

Umm.. Nah. I don't really like Roserade and also, one of my friend have her and we are trying to not put the same pokemon on our team.

What about:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa272.png
Ludicolo @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
Swift Swim Ability
-Rain Dance
-Hydro Pump
-Energy Ball/Grass Knot
-Ice Beam

Iceman3k May 25th, 2007 3:26 AM

Hmm. I suppose that should work, especially since you lack a Special Sweeper. Change the item to Damp Rock.

Samson May 25th, 2007 9:33 AM

ludicoolo as a sweeper? *shrug* sure, why not. energy ball over grass knot. and yeah, stick with damp rock.

Prince of Desert May 25th, 2007 12:41 PM

Does he sucks that much as a special sweeper? If yes than which grass type pokemon should I put there except for Roserade and Leafeon since she is an attack pokemon. Also, I think that Ludocolo would fit in 'cuz it gives me an additional water pokemon... it's like a backup.

Samson May 25th, 2007 8:22 PM

well he's mostly a Seeder and Status inflicter (Toxic is popular on him), but with a base 90 sp attack, i suppose he can do some surprise sweeping w/ Rain Dance support.

Prince of Desert May 26th, 2007 5:36 PM

I was thinking of adding Exeggutor... who is better? Should I replace Ludicolo for him?

Samson May 26th, 2007 7:58 PM

well i personally think ludicoolo has better typing, and aside from that, is way cooler than exeggutor. besides, exeggutor must depend on Sunny Day for a speed boost, which places your whole team at a disadvantage vs Fire attacks.

exeggutor does have a much higher sp attack, but like i said, his type and speed places it at a disadvantage.

Prince of Desert May 27th, 2007 4:13 AM

Dragonite! >.<
 
Mh.. guess you're right.

I have another question. Is there a moveset for Dragonite that can kill a Kingdra? 'Cuz one of my friend have him and the only pokemon in my team that can kill him is Dragonite but the fact that Kingdra is faster and will Ice beam me before I attack with Outrage really sucks. I need a way to make Dragonite attack first and one hit kill him before he attacks.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa149.png
Dragonite @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch/Thunder Bolt
-Dragon Dance

VERSUS

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfsa/dpmfsa230.png
Kingdra @ Damp Rock
Hasty Nature
-Hydro Pump
-Rain Dance
-Ice Beam
-(can't remember ><)

Oh and plus, the Kingdra is hasty... -_-

Iceman3k May 27th, 2007 5:57 AM

Dragon Rush over Outrage. 3-turn attacks aren't the coolest things in the world. And Thunderpunch instead of Fire Punch.

Prince of Desert May 27th, 2007 7:37 AM

It's too late for him to learn thunder punch. That's why I put thunderbolt

Prince of Desert May 27th, 2007 5:12 PM

Outrage
 
Oh and the reason why I don't want to remove Outrage is because its the only way to 1 hitKO my Kingdra's friend. Even if it's a 3 turn attack, it doesen't matter too much because if I do dragon dance before, I will surely KO every pokemon that pass by because i'll be stronger AND faster. I think it's still a good dragon attack on a Dragonite 'cuz Dragonite can take some hit. I agree with you that Thunder Punch would be a good option on him but it's too late for him to learn because I already transfered him in Diamond and there is no movetutor in Sinnoh that can learn him Thunder Punch. Well.. I guess it's no that bad if I put thunderbolt since Samson suggested me to put surf which is a Special move. Thunder bolt will help me get rid of Water type that will Ice beam me.

So yeah.. I think i'll stick with that :/

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa149.png
Dragonite @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Thunder Bolt
-Dragon Dance

Still, I am a bit worry about my team 'cuz there to many Physical Sweeper... but i'll try to win with that.

Paranoia May 27th, 2007 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince of Desert (Post 2499990)
Oh and the reason why I don't want to remove Outrage is because its the only way to 1 hitKO my Kingdra's friend. Even if it's a 3 turn attack, it doesen't matter too much because if I do dragon dance before, I will surely KO every pokemon that pass by because i'll be stronger AND faster. I think it's still a good dragon attack on a Dragonite 'cuz Dragonite can take some hit. I agree with you that Thunder Punch would be a good option on him but it's too late for him to learn because I already transfered him in Diamond and there is no movetutor in Sinnoh that can learn him Thunder Punch. Well.. I guess it's no that bad if I put thunderbolt since Samson suggested me to put surf which is a Special move. Thunder bolt will help me get rid of Water type that will Ice beam me.

So yeah.. I think i'll stick with that :/

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa149.png
Dragonite @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Thunder Bolt
-Dragon Dance

Still, I am a bit worry about my team 'cuz there to many Physical Sweeper... but i'll try to win with that.

Although you can't get thunder punch, it is worth it, the reason why is thunder bolt is special, thunder punch is physical, you'll do more damage with thunderpunch then thunderbolt, and plus DD won't give any benefits to thunderbolt.

Iceman3k May 27th, 2007 8:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince of Desert (Post 2499377)
It's too late for him to learn thunder punch. That's why I put thunderbolt

Take a Heart Scale to the move relearner in D/P. Dragonite still gets Thunderpunch.

Prince of Desert May 29th, 2007 3:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman3k (Post 2500306)
Take a Heart Scale to the move relearner in D/P. Dragonite still gets Thunderpunch.

Ohh thanks! It actually works. I didn't knew he could learn it this way.

Prince of Desert May 29th, 2007 3:16 PM

Does it make a huge difference when you have the right nature on a pokemon. My friend told me that it only raise the stats that the Nature boost by 1.5% (In D/P).Is it worth it?
Oh and is it Okay if I don't put Subtitute on my Arcanine even if I want to add Reversal?

Paranoia May 29th, 2007 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince of Desert (Post 2503186)
Does it make a huge difference when you have the right nature on a pokemon. My friend told me that it only raise the stats that the Nature boost by 1.5% (In D/P).Is it worth it?

YES! It makes a huge difference, 10% added on, which can be atleast 20 extra stats to attack or whatever.

Oh and is it Okay if I don't put Subtitute on my Arcanine even if I want to add Reversal?

I dont know about substitute, wait for iceman3k or samson to respond.

Samson May 29th, 2007 10:55 PM

you can, but i don't suggest it.

Arcanine, as a fire type, has a lot of popular weaknesses and perhaps won't last if it is hit by something it is weak against. when you use reversal, you want to use it where it counts like Vs a Snorlax or, especially, a Tyranitar. you want that element of surprise, but how do you plan on maximizing the power of reversal (lowering your HP) and not getting knocked out? you Sub it up. with Flare Drive/Flamethrower and Thunder Fang, you have everything you need covered. your only threats are some like Gliscor and Rhyperior who have super defenses anyway and arcanine won't be able to handle at all. then you have threats like Tyranitar and Snorlax who you actually CAN handle with Reversal, which only helps Arcanine be more diverse and useful in battle.

oh and you said i suggested a special move on Dragonite... not thunderbolt. i have Surf on mine for those pokemon who have high defenses and resist Outrage.

Prince of Desert May 30th, 2007 5:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samson (Post 2503710)
you can, but i don't suggest it.

Arcanine, as a fire type, has a lot of popular weaknesses and perhaps won't last if it is hit by something it is weak against. when you use reversal, you want to use it where it counts like Vs a Snorlax or, especially, a Tyranitar. you want that element of surprise, but how do you plan on maximizing the power of reversal (lowering your HP) and not getting knocked out? you Sub it up. with Flare Drive/Flamethrower and Thunder Fang, you have everything you need covered. your only threats are some like Gliscor and Rhyperior who have super defenses anyway and arcanine won't be able to handle at all. then you have threats like Tyranitar and Snorlax who you actually CAN handle with Reversal, which only helps Arcanine be more diverse and useful in battle.

oh and you said i suggested a special move on Dragonite... not thunderbolt. i have Surf on mine for those pokemon who have high defenses and resist Outrage.

Yeah.. I understand but the reason why I don't want to add Subtitute is because it takes Extremespeed's place. Extremespeed helped me out alot of times and besides, all my other friends fear that attack ;). It helps me out to take out fast special sweepers (with of course no defense)that can possibly 1hit kill me like Alakazam and Gengar. I was thinking of using Reversal as a last resort attack when I have low health. I know that Subtitue+Reversal is good but I don't want to give up on Extremespeed ><


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