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plasmapistol May 27th, 2007 2:09 PM

Working on an idea for 2nd team. All input is welcome
 
Here is an idea on a second team. All input is welcome.

Espeon Lv. 72 (Special Sweeper)
Nickname- Retribution
Ability-Synchronize
Moves-
Morning Sun
Psybeam
Last Resort
Shadow Ball

Kabutops lv. 72 (Physical Sweeper)
Nickname- Defiance
Ability-Swift Swim + Battle Armor
Moves-
Rock Slide
X-Scissor
Aerial Ace
Waterfall (yes it is a physical attack)

Gallade Lv. 70 (attacker)
Nickname- Guardian
Ability-Steadfast
Moves-
Psycho Cut
Hypnosis
Leaf Blade
Close Combat

Kingler Lv. 71 (beat-down)
Ability-Hyper Cutter + Shell Armor
Nickname-
Moves-
Crabhammer
Slam
???
???

Crobat Lv. 70 (fast attack)
Nickname-
Ability-Inner Focus
Moves-
Poison Fang
Air Slash
Roost
???

Marowak Lv.70 (Heavy Beat-down) item-Thick Club
Nickname-
Ability- Rock Head
Moves-
Swords Dance
Bonemerang
Double Edge
Focus Blast

plasmapistol May 28th, 2007 10:40 AM

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Samson May 28th, 2007 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmapistol (Post 2499784)
Here is an idea on a second team. All input is welcome.

Espeon Lv. 72 (Special Sweeper) @ Leftovers
Nickname- Retribution
Ability-Synchronize
Moves-
Morning Sun
Psychic
Grass Knot
Calm Mind

Kabutops lv. 72 (Physical Sweeper) @ Leftovers
Nickname- Defiance
Ability-Swift Swim + Battle Armor
Moves-
Stone Edge
Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Waterfall

Gallade Lv. 70 (attacker) @ Choice Scarf/Band or Life Orb
Nickname- Guardian
Ability-Steadfast
Moves-
Psycho Cut
Hypnosis/Will-O-Wisp/Thunderwave
Leaf Blade/Swords Dance
Close Combat

Kingler Lv. 71 (beat-down) @ Leftovers
Ability-Hyper Cutter
Nickname-
Moves-
Crabhammer
Brick Break
Rock Slide
Swords Dance

Crobat Lv. 70 (fast attack) @ Black Sludge
Nickname-
Ability-Inner Focus
Moves-
Hypnosis
Brave Bird/Aerial Ace
Whirlwind/U-Turn
Haze/Cross Poison

Marowak Lv.70 (Heavy Beat-down) item-Thick Club
Nickname-
Ability- Rock Head
Moves-
Hi
I
Am
Lame

even with thick club boosting its attack, marowak is a big ole stinkahface.

also, only one of your pokemon can take and give special hits (espeon), and even that pokemon can't take very many. there's no point of having both kabutops and kingler on the same team. i love them both, but they do just about the same thing.

plasmapistol May 28th, 2007 11:29 AM

Marowaks attack power has the capability of going over 1000 thanks to Thick Club and Swords Dance. Marrowak will own you. Also, i am using Kabutops and Kingler for 2 different purposes. Kingler is physical anti-rock and anti-fire. While Kabutops uses rock and ground type moves (besides aerial ace). I only put in a water type move just incase I might need it, and pretty much because it can learn a water move. Also Espeon shouldnt have clam mind, it wouldnt have enough time on the battlefield to use it. Also, brick break is a really crap move without STAB.

Samson May 28th, 2007 4:17 PM

allright, beleive what you must, but something as common as Gengar will pass right through this team.

plasmapistol May 28th, 2007 5:02 PM

Actually with STAB, kinglers superior physical attack power, and Kabutops superior attack power they would own any gengar. Psychics arent the only thing that can combat ghosts you know. Yea they may have a type advantage over them but you dont always need water to fight fire so to speak.

Angelic Diablo May 28th, 2007 5:13 PM

I like how you say all input is welcome, yet you beat down every suggestion you recieve

Samson May 28th, 2007 5:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmapistol (Post 2501672)
Actually with STAB, kinglers superior physical attack power, and Kabutops superior attack power they would own any gengar. Psychics arent the only thing that can combat ghosts you know. Yea they may have a type advantage over them but you dont always need water to fight fire so to speak.

Gengar is faster than both. gengar has both thunderbolt AND energy ball.

i would love to battle you one day for the free win.

Iceman3k May 28th, 2007 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmapistol (Post 2501672)
Actually with STAB, kinglers superior physical attack power, and Kabutops superior attack power they would own any gengar. Psychics arent the only thing that can combat ghosts you know. Yea they may have a type advantage over them but you dont always need water to fight fire so to speak.

Attack doesn't matter at all if you have no speed to back yourself up with. Unless you're running Swords Dance + Salac on at least one of them, you should consider yourself live prey to Gengar, and many other sweepers.

sims796 May 28th, 2007 7:44 PM

Ok, my Torterra has these moves

Wood Hammer
Stone Edge
Earthuake
Synthesis

He alone could wipe out your whole team. Hell, just Wood Hammer could take out just about five of em'.

Please, for the love of all is good & holy, get some sort of defensive wall or something on your team.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 2501694)
I like how you say all input is welcome, yet you beat down every suggestion you recieve

I kinda agree. If you know so much, why are you asking for help? Don't post if you feel you don't need it.

SilverDragon May 28th, 2007 8:00 PM

Good team but replace Crobat and Marowak.

plasmapistol May 28th, 2007 8:33 PM

Alright hold up, im not beating down his advice. I am just voicing my opinion. I am sry if that seemed offensive. So which Pokemon would you guys recommend I remove? I was really thinking about adding a Dragon type like Flygon. Again any input is welcome. Thank you guys for your opinions.

sims796 May 28th, 2007 8:48 PM

No problem.

Now as for Flygon...eh. Sure, why not. He's average, at least in my opinion. How about someone who can take more of a beating? Perhaps Milotic?

I would suggest trading Kingler in for her. He's strong, has greatt defense, but terrible sp. def, and worse, HP. One Thunderbolt will take it out.

BoRn-2-B-eViL May 28th, 2007 11:28 PM

also add a brozong or a skarmory.
i think it can help your team.

plasmapistol May 29th, 2007 11:47 AM

Okay I replaced Marowak and Kingler for these two:
Golem Lv. 75 (wall/kamikaze)??
Ability- Rock Head + Sturdy
Moves-
Double Edge
Rock Blast
Explosion
Flamethrower

Sableye Lv. 75 (special wall?)
Moves-
There is no list of moves on Bulbapedia for the 4th generation. so I dont know which moves to choose.


Thanks for any input!

Prince of Desert May 29th, 2007 3:05 PM

um... Serebii?
Serebii
Sableye

plasmapistol May 29th, 2007 3:23 PM

Thanks dude! That site will help me out a bunch *adds to bookmarks*. I will work on a move list soon.

sims796 May 29th, 2007 6:30 PM

Sweet merciful heavens, please don't put Flamethrower on Golem. I have a Golem, so I should know. He doesn't have the sp.attack to make a dent on even a grass type. Also, he doesn't have the speed, so he won't be able to launch it. When I had Emerald, I felt the need to teach it Flamethrower. Don't make the same mistake I did.

Here, take my moveset.
Adament/Brave
Rock Blast/Stone Edge
Eathquake
Stealth Rock
Explosion/Rock Polish

If your goona use Brave, take Rock Polish. Note, that I'm not a pro, so you may wan't to do some research yourself.

plasmapistol May 29th, 2007 9:05 PM

I dont think I am going to use Golem. I just realized that a Grass Type would be super effective against 2 of my pokemon, which is 1 too many. I am going to find a tough fire type. Torkoal perhaps? Also I just realized that Sableye has some really crap stats, so I am going to try to find a different Dark/Ghost Pokemon.

plasmapistol May 29th, 2007 9:54 PM

Okay I have just found two other pokemon that might do very nicely. What do you guys think?

Camerupt LV. 70 (special sweeper)
Flamethrower
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Hyper Beam

Dodrio Lv. 70 (Physical sweeper)
Drill Peck
Giga Impact
Tri Attack
Brave Bird

sims796 May 29th, 2007 10:07 PM

Get rid of Hyper Beam. Also, a superior Dark/Ghost, hands-down, is Spirtitomb.

plasmapistol May 30th, 2007 5:07 PM

I dont think I will need a Dark or a Ghost since I already have a Psychic type. Also about Giga Impact, its a normal attack so it would get STAB. Since it is such a powerful attack and I wouldn't be able to use it too many times and thats why I also have Tri Attack. So I would use Giga Impact first, then use Tri Attack to finish the job. Against fighting types I would use either Drill Peck or Brave Bird. But I can see why you would want to take off Giga Impact. Its going to take some experimentation, once my Dodrio grows a few levels and I get my others in this new party leveled up me and friend (from the last topic I started) are going to be testing our new line ups against each other.

sims796 May 30th, 2007 5:37 PM

Ha Ha. You forget, on D/P, Hyper Beam is now a special attack, which, unfortunately for you, Dortrio most lacks. If you REALLY feel the need for Hyper Beam, get Giga Impact, a physical version of Hyper Beam, therefore it uses attack power, Dotrio's strong point.

plasmapistol May 30th, 2007 9:22 PM

Ah your right! I thought Dodrio had good Spf atk and reg atk. Thank you! (Changing that to Giga Impact right now hehe) Have any other suggestions?

BTW I have just received my friends Pokemon list. Here is what I am up against.

Magneton
Swampert
Hitmontop
Cacturne
Weavile
Lunatone

sims796 May 31st, 2007 2:03 PM

How do you feel about Brave Bird & Roost? Nice combo...


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