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Gummy May 27th, 2007 6:47 PM

Effort Values
 
Guess what? I FINALLY understand those darn EVs (although I'm still a little foggy in the IV business). Anyway, I was wondering if Wi-fi automatically sets your stats to what they would normally be when you play an Auto-set match (when they set your entire team to either level 100 or 50), wouldn't that make your EVs useless (unless their added when you do the Auto-Set to 100)?

Also, say I max out the Attack and Special Attack EVs of a Pokemon at like, level 5, (through vitamins of course) and I use Rare Candies to bring it up to level 100, will that affect the EVs in any way other than adding the extra points to my Pokemon at level 100?

Roihu May 27th, 2007 7:20 PM

I don't think rare candies make EVs go up...

Gummy May 27th, 2007 7:36 PM

Allow me to rephrase my question. What if you EV train a Pokemon in two stats (lets say Speed and Atk) using vitamin and battling Pokemon that wouldn't give you much EXP. After you've maxed out your EVs, can you Rare Candy the Pokemon all the way to 100 with no consequences?

Roihu May 27th, 2007 7:38 PM

Yes but before that just level it up one more time to be sure

Storm-DC May 28th, 2007 3:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Glajummy (Post 2500118)
Guess what? I FINALLY understand those darn EVs (although I'm still a little foggy in the IV business). Anyway, I was wondering if Wi-fi automatically sets your stats to what they would normally be when you play an Auto-set match (when they set your entire team to either level 100 or 50), wouldn't that make your EVs useless (unless their added when you do the Auto-Set to 100)?

guess what? the whole point of EV-training is for those 50 and 100-set matches.. all your dynamic stats get recalculated and so EV is really important.. it really makes the difference between winning and losing!

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Originally Posted by Glajummy (Post 2500118)
Also, say I max out the Attack and Special Attack EVs of a Pokemon at like, level 5, (through vitamins of course) and I use Rare Candies to bring it up to level 100, will that affect the EVs in any way other than adding the extra points to my Pokemon at level 100?

as soon you have 510 EVs (and get the effort ribbon) you can level it up anyway you like (also day care), and at 1vl 100 it's as good as it gets

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ May 28th, 2007 3:35 AM

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as soon you have 510 EVs (and get the effort ribbon)


where is the effort ribbon at anyways? I'm not great with EV stuff either, so anyways if your in lv. 100 you get that ribbon right?


:t354:tatsujin gosuto

Paranoia May 28th, 2007 3:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Glajummy (Post 2500200)
Allow me to rephrase my question. What if you EV train a Pokemon in two stats (lets say Speed and Atk) using vitamin and battling Pokemon that wouldn't give you much EXP. After you've maxed out your EVs, can you Rare Candy the Pokemon all the way to 100 with no consequences?

No, you must make sure to battle a pokemon before you start using rare candy's. This is because rare candies don't take EVs into account, so it would still have the 252 EVs in atk and Speed, but they won't be added unless he levels up in a battle.

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Originally Posted by ~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~ (Post 2500667)
where is the effort ribbon at anyways? I'm not great with EV stuff either, so anyways if your in lv. 100 you get that ribbon right?


:t354:tatsujin gosuto

The woman is at the same place that you buy the seals for pokeballs, it is the city with the 8th badge (Forgot the name)

And please, Change your font colour, it is difficult to read!

Dragon Tamer Ed May 28th, 2007 10:06 AM

When it comes to EV training in Sinnoh, the Trophy Garden is a god-send. (For sweepers, at least) There is an abundance of Roselia (2 Sp. Atk points each), Staravia/Pikachu (2 Speed Points each), and Kricketune (2 Atk points each). And if you have Macho Brace and Pokerus, those 2 EVs per battle become 8 EVs per battle. It made things so much easier for me to train my Houndoom. For defensive EVs, however, I have no idea where the best place is.

And paranoia, for the "Level up in battle to add EV boosts before Rare Candies", you can also put the pokemon in a PC box and leave. When you go back and withdraw it, the EVs will have been added & recalculated its stats.

TheRazor375 May 28th, 2007 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glajummy (Post 2500118)
Guess what? I FINALLY understand those darn EVs (although I'm still a little foggy in the IV business). Anyway, I was wondering if Wi-fi automatically sets your stats to what they would normally be when you play an Auto-set match (when they set your entire team to either level 100 or 50), wouldn't that make your EVs useless (unless their added when you do the Auto-Set to 100)?

Also, say I max out the Attack and Special Attack EVs of a Pokemon at like, level 5, (through vitamins of course) and I use Rare Candies to bring it up to level 100, will that affect the EVs in any way other than adding the extra points to my Pokemon at level 100?


IV's it what makes every pokemon you ever catch different. And they tell the true power of a pokemon. For example, the max IV is 31 to 0. Iv's add to the pokemons base stats. Along with EV's which you decide where they go. IV's are random with every pokemon and alomost never the same. A example would be...

Pikachu has a base speed of 90. At level 100 with 0 IV's and no EV's pikachu, and a nature that doesn't affect speed. Pikachu speed will be 90. Which is almost impossible because the chances of that are like a shiny. Also if u have a pokemon with a 0 IV just get rid of it. IV add to the speed and IV's never change. You can't tell a pokemon's IV by looking at them. Because the EV's mess with it alot. The only way to tell what really there IV's are is when you catch, hatch it or get it with no EV's or get rid of there EV with barries. If you can get your hands on a high IV pokemon and not a high IV pikachu because there base stats are so low. High IV pokemon and it has high base stats. We can say that your team will be very hard to beat.

Paranoia May 28th, 2007 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRazor375 (Post 2501202)
IV's it what makes every pokemon you ever catch different. And they tell the true power of a pokemon. For example, the max IV is 31 to 0. Iv's add to the pokemons base stats. Along with EV's which you decide where they go. IV's are random with every pokemon and alomost never the same. A example would be...

Pikachu has a base speed of 90. At level 100 with 0 IV's and no EV's pikachu, and a nature that doesn't affect speed. Pikachu speed will be 90. Which is almost impossible because the chances of that are like a shiny. Also if u have a pokemon with a 0 IV just get rid of it. IV add to the speed and IV's never change. You can't tell a pokemon's IV by looking at them. Because the EV's mess with it alot. The only way to tell what really there IV's are is when you catch, hatch it or get it with no EV's or get rid of there EV with barries. If you can get your hands on a high IV pokemon and not a high IV pikachu because there base stats are so low. High IV pokemon and it has high base stats. We can say that your team will be very hard to beat.

Nope, everything was correct except for the fact that 1 base stat = 2 stats when the pokemon is level 100, so pikachu's speed will have 180 at lvl 100, not 90.

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Originally Posted by DarkParukia (Post 2501173)
And paranoia, for the "Level up in battle to add EV boosts before Rare Candies", you can also put the pokemon in a PC box and leave. When you go back and withdraw it, the EVs will have been added & recalculated its stats.

I didn't know that, thanks alot! saves me so much time now, lol


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