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johnboy3434 June 15th, 2007 6:48 PM

Is an all-encompassing Pokémon hack possible?
 
I had a dream not too long ago about a Pokémon hack that included Kanto, the Orange Archipelago, Johto, and Hoenn in a single game. That's 28 badges (42 if you count silver and gold Frontier symbols), three championships, and all 386 Pokémon from the first three generations. Given the state of DS hacking, Sinnoh and the 107 Pokémon that come with it are obviously off-limits for now. I was just curious if it were possible to make a hack like this, since it would obviously take up more data-space than a normal GBA cartridge could hold. Just a pointless question I came up with.

Ripper June 15th, 2007 10:47 PM

In short: No, no you can't.

HackMew June 16th, 2007 1:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan (Post 2529213)
In short: No, no you can't.

I disagree. It's an very ambitious project ok, but it could be done after a lot, really a lot of work. Anyway, if you're planning to put your hacked ROM on a normale GBA cartridge the free space won't be sure enough.

Cryomancer June 16th, 2007 2:42 AM

Can't you just add zeros to the end of the rom for extra data space?

If anything I think the hardest part of this would be the badges. Adding all the pokemon into one game is pretty simple, maps shouldn't be a huge deal unless there's some sort of limit to tilesets you can use. There could also be issues with the fact that you'd arrive in a new region already knowing surf, cut, etc.

SuperMetroid June 16th, 2007 8:19 AM

He could make it as if each region is intertwined, like you have to go to kanto to get surf but, in honnen gets cut.

Teh Baro June 17th, 2007 3:21 AM

FR has four world maps
You can just stick to 8 badges in the trainer card and add more badges later.
There's plenty of free space, so in fire red or leaf green it could be doable.
So, can it be done?: yes
Will you do it? : oh no you le didn't! It's a hell of a lot of work and I bet you would give up before ending it. So well, try it if you want to.

jack276 June 17th, 2007 3:51 AM

Maybe it would be a good idea to get 3 or 4 different teams to make a map each and join them together at the end.

destinedjagold June 20th, 2007 10:19 PM

I already tried to do that... But I failed in the end... I was hacking PKMN Ruby and there I put three warps inside the truck which will lead you to Kanto, Johto and Hoenn.

It worked out okay at first, but when I tried to play in Hoenn, the script was all messed up! PROF. BIRCH is gone! (and I haven't done anything in hoenn)! The mom of your character wont let you out of your room!

To make it short, Hoenn was a total mess!
But even so.., if I reached that far, so could you, or maybe even further.
Just don't give up on your dream!

It may not sound possible, but it's not impossible...

TAMASHII helped me out too, even though she had no hope that it'll be successful... Oh well...

BlackRainbow* June 21st, 2007 1:24 AM

It can be done if you use Rom Expander like Kike-Scoot will use it in pokemon Crystal Shards. Rom expander resize your rom and add more free space into your rom so there is more space to do maps and other stuff. But where to get Rom Expander i don't know. You should ask kike-scoot

Magnius June 23rd, 2007 10:37 AM

There's always compression.

nickwarr_182 June 23rd, 2007 2:57 PM

I'd say it's easier to do by hacking FR/LG, since they already have two different maps. You could find out how to add more, and make all the regions into one game.

Oh, and destinedjagold, if something's not possible, then it's impossible for it to not be impossible.

destinedjagold June 24th, 2007 7:32 PM

KebaSun, thanks for that info... If ever I'll find that "rom expander".., I'll post its whereabouts here...

nickwarr182,
I said "it may not sound possible".

SOUND... "... it may sound impossible..."

I guess what I meant is like what you understood...

"...it may sound impossible, but it is not..."

Oh well...........


magnetflygon June 24th, 2007 8:09 PM

I figure it may be possible especially if you took all of the maps, inside and out, for each town and such, and placed it on one map, namely the main map of the town. From there, just add the events and whatnot.

destinedjagold June 24th, 2007 11:21 PM

I dont quite understand......

aznb0ibrill June 25th, 2007 6:17 AM

takes a hell lot of work =/

Tentachu June 25th, 2007 7:15 AM

It's possible, sure. By adding 0s to the end like Cryomancer said, you could make a hack with everything. Don't know about flash cart playability though...

Hang on, is playability a word?!?

Anyway, yes it is possible, it would just take a long time. A very long time. If someone started now, we might see it by November....

2008, that is...

Juniorslick June 25th, 2007 10:12 AM

Rom hacking teams kinda sound like a great idea.........

A thread could be made to show all teams and each team could make a thread releasing there hack................and the hack of the year could go to the team that had best hack

Each team would have about 4-5 members

*just an idea though dont take it seriously

[email protected] June 27th, 2007 8:23 AM

I bet it could be done, but you'd need some experinced rom-hackers and alot of free time. It would take a long time, but I doubt it's impossible. Wouldn't it be great if nintendo made a game like that? Or if fr/lg had acess to Johto.... man, that would be awwwweeeessooommme.

HI-TECH July 3rd, 2007 10:46 AM

How could you make a big game when you can only make a limited amount of tiles without having to replace the old tiles and pokemon/

johnboy3434 July 5th, 2007 9:07 PM

Well, I am pleased with the discussion, so far. I would like to say, though, that I have no current plans to make this game. I merely wondered if it was even possible. I have another question that stems from my thoughts on the subject, though. The Orange Archipelago is the region that the games forgot. Any maps made for such a region would have to be crafted by the hacker.

Because of its neglected status, hacks that focus on the Orange Archipelago have always been my favorites. Unfortunately, I have yet to play a completed hack (one that goes through the battle with Drake). Has any Orange Islands hack ever been finished? I'd like to know, even if it was a hack for the GB/GBC generations.

Zurenriri July 27th, 2007 5:38 PM

MIND READER! O_o
Nah, him and me probably aren't the only one's who've thought of this.
I had imagined, as well, that ROM space would be an issue (didn't know about things like memory extenders at the time), so my idea was to start from scratch and make it a computer game, with 3D graphics! (WOOT!) But that could take years, unless we hired some pros.

But... should that ever get onto a ROM... I will do everything possible to get it on a cartridge.

Latieon July 31st, 2007 10:26 PM

yes it is possible.But really hard.It can be done by a group if people concentrate on different stuff but work in coordination
But itll take a real long time.cause soon nintendo will come out with another generation of pokemon.....so the all included hack will never be complete

thethethethe July 31st, 2007 11:01 PM

What rom would be the best to use to make the all-encompassing hack?

kevin96 August 1st, 2007 9:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnboy3434 (Post 2528889)
I had a dream not too long ago about a Pokémon hack that included Kanto, the Orange Archipelago, Johto, and Hoenn in a single game. That's 28 badges (42 if you count silver and gold Frontier symbols), three championships, and all 386 Pokémon from the first three generations. Given the state of DS hacking, Sinnoh and the 107 Pokémon that come with it are obviously off-limits for now. I was just curious if it were possible to make a hack like this, since it would obviously take up more data-space than a normal GBA cartridge could hold. Just a pointless question I came up with.

yeah I guess you can and I'll help you if you want

Ahegil August 1st, 2007 9:33 PM

hmmm i have no life and lots and lots of time... i belive i MAY undertake this project... will need help of course any one else wants to help say so and when im ready ill contact u....

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnboy3434 (Post 2590857)
Because of its neglected status, hacks that focus on the Orange Archipelago have always been my favorites. Unfortunately, I have yet to play a completed hack (one that goes through the battle with Drake). Has any Orange Islands hack ever been finished? I'd like to know, even if it was a hack for the GB/GBC generations.

yes but its on R/B lol


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