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GeorgeWBushSupporter June 18th, 2007 11:22 AM

My New Competitive Team
 
This is the new team I use for competitive play (needs work) on D/P. I use this for tournaments and leagues, suggestions and criticisms are requested. TMs is not a problem, so if you want me to replace moves that is not a problem. Also, I have several pokemon in my PC so if anyone should be switched that is possible. Thank you :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/Art-Gyarados.png
Item: None
Hydro Pump
Ice Fang
Dragon Dance
Earthquake

I use him as my sweeper, as it is fast and covers a lot of weaknesses.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/Nidoking.png
Nidoking
Item: None
Water Pulse
Earthquake
Thunderbolt
Megahorn

Even though Nidoking has several weaknesses, he proves as a worthy pokemon to use with the wide variety of moves and has balanced stats.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Dragonite.png
Item: None
Thunderbolt
Focus Punch
Fire Blast
Ice Beam

Dragonite, probably my best pokemon here in the list.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Machamp.png
Vital Throw
Rest
Cross Chop
Earthquake

Machamp is my tank.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Torterra.png
Item: X Sp. Def
Earthquake
Crunch
Giga Drain
Leaf Storm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/6charizard.png
Item: None
Solar Beam
Flamethrower
Fly
Earthquake

Charizard is my favorite pokemon thus he is in my lineup.








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Here are some pokemon I have in my PC. I am not afraid to switch any out in exchange.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/Starmie.png
Item: None
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Recover
Camoflauge

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/21/Heracross.png
Item: None
Leer
Horn Attack
Endure
Fury Attack

I didn't train him at all.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/Alakazam.png
Item: Mind Plate
Psybeam
Psycho Cut
Psychic
Recover

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/Snorlax.png
Item: None
Body Slam
Swallow
Toxic
Stockpile

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Steelix.png
Item: X Attack
DragonBreath
Iron Tail
Crunch
Rock Slide

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Zapdos.png
Item: None
Thunder Wave
Shock Wave
Detect
Drill Peck

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/GolemPKMN.png
Item: None
Rollout
Explosion
Rock Blast
Earthquake

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d0/Lucario.png/100px-Lucario.png
Item: None
Quick Attack
Foresight
Force Palm
Counter

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/Arcanine-059.png
Item: Exp Share
Flare Drive
Rock Tomb
Extremespeed
Will-O-Wisp

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/Aerodactyl.png
Rock Smash (I know, bad move)
Rock Tomb
Ancient Power
Hyper Beam


Once again, thank you :)

sanjay120 June 18th, 2007 11:52 AM

This is not a competitive team. This is a team you threw together with random Pokemon from your PC.

GeorgeWBushSupporter June 18th, 2007 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanjay120 (Post 2536080)
This is not a competitive team. This is a team you threw together with random Pokemon from your PC.

Did you read my post? The first six pokemon listed are the ones I currently use for my team. Though, I listed pokemon I have in my PC that I am willing to exchange with one of the pokemon in my current lineup.

sanjay120 June 18th, 2007 12:15 PM

Let me rephrase that then: Learn something about the D/P metagame before asking to have a team rated. I was taking you seriously until Hyper Beam Aerodactyl. Oh wait, no I wasn't. Before that there was "Machamp is my tank.", Torterra holding X SDef, and Hydro Pump Gyara. This is not a competitive team.

GeorgeWBushSupporter June 18th, 2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanjay120 (Post 2536151)
Let me rephrase that then: Learn something about the D/P metagame before asking to have a team rated. I was taking you seriously until Hyper Beam Aerodactyl. Oh wait, no I wasn't. Before that there was "Machamp is my tank.", Torterra holding X SDef, and Hydro Pump Gyara. This is not a competitive team.

You must be really dense. First off, can you show me where I said rate my team? I am looking for suggestions to FIX my team. And this is the forum for it. Oh, guess you didn't know that did you!?

And all the pokemon in my PC are not trained for comeptitive play, but I am willing to fix them IF someone suggests to switch someone from my normal line up too that.

And yes, I do realize there ARE mistakes in my team which is why I asked for suggestions you moron. Before you make moronic ASSUMPTIONS read what the original posts say, what forum you are posting in, and get common sense.

-Edit-

For morons like you, I put in the first sentence of my post in parenthesis after competitive play "needs work" since apparently some people have trouble reading.

sanjay120 June 18th, 2007 12:34 PM

I know what forum I'm posting in. The Pokemon Strategies and Movesets forum, for strategies and movesets. And this thread is titled "My New Competitive Team", which leads me to believe that you're looking for competitive strategies and movesets. And FYI, "Rate my team" is "Fix my team".

Though I will admit, I could've been nicer. I'm just used to people actually knowing something about competitive battling before posting teams. I guess because your team is pretty much useless competitively, to me it's more like you're saying "Build a team for me."

Jinnai taichou June 18th, 2007 12:37 PM

Hmmmm....

First off, if you want a sweeping Gyarados, use a MS like this instead:

Dragon Dance (Replace with Stone Edge if you're running it with a Choice Band)
EQ (Earthquake)
Stone Edge/Ice Fang
Waterfall

Nidoking, how I like that Pokemon. However, it is going to get ran over in the current meta-game. It's a good Hera counter, but other than that...eh. :/ Definitely switch it out if you're more about winning, winning, winning, but if you like the Pokemon and just want to use it, go for it. Nothing wrong with that.

Dragonite can be a crazy Pokemon to have. Quite a bit of choices. If you want to use it for attacking, which obviously you do, consider the moves Outrage, EQ, Fire Blast, Dragon Dance, Substitute, Flame Thrower, Focus Punch. Dragonite can be a special sweeper, a physical one, or a mixed one.

Machamp is not a tank, but if you want one with rest, consider this:

Rest
Sleep Talk
Dynamic Punch/Cross Chop
Stone Edge

As for Torterra and Charizard...eh. :/

Something you'll be wanting, or should consider, or a healer and a Spiker/Stealth Rocker/Rapid Spinner.

Your team is very attack oriented, and teams like that well completely get thwarted.

You might want to consider Starmie and Snorlax for your team.

Shiraishi June 18th, 2007 5:08 PM

I would lose to an 8 year old with that team.

Iceman3k June 18th, 2007 5:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cakekun (Post 2536933)
I would lose to an 8 year old with that team.

If you're not going to help, then don't even come into his topic. Simple as that.

Quote:

Gyarados
Item: None
Aqua Tail
Ice Fang
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Use Aqua Tail if you want Water Attacking on Gyarados.

Nidoking
Item: None
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Thunderbolt
Megahorn
Make sure he's running off of the Rivalry ability.

Dragonite
Item: None
Thunderbolt
Focus Punch
Substitute
Ice Beam
I'd use another moveset for him, or just replace either him or Gyarados.

Machamp
Thunderpunch
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
Stone Edge
Machamp doesn't make a tank.
He does, however, make a nice CBer.


Torterra
Item: Leftovers
Earthquake
Curse
Seed Bomb
Synthesis / Rest
Eh

Charizard
Item: None
Belly Drum
Fire Punch / Flare Blitz
Substitute / Crunch
Earthquake

Charizard is my favorite pokemon thus he is in my lineup.
With the exception of Torterra, this team is far too sweeper-oriented.
I'd also like to point out that even Medicham w/o Choice Scarf single-handedly takes this team out, as well as Starmie.

Faceless* June 18th, 2007 5:51 PM

Hmmm go w/ what stats the pokemon are GOOD at! Like how Iceman put that Gyarados's hydro pump should be replaced w/ aqua tail. Well, sure, hydro pump is stronger with the base power of 120, but, its a sp. attack.

sims796 June 18th, 2007 6:10 PM

Iceman, Iceman, Iceman. This is the second time you told someone to give Seed Bomb to Torterra. I will admit, it's not a bad move for him, but Wood Hammer is better.

Torterra
Earthquake
Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
Stone Edge/Rock Slide
Leech Seed/Syntheis

Leftovers w/ Leech Seed could help recover from your own Wood Hammer, but Synthesis is still an option. Remember, with all these Sandstorms, its a wee bit risky. Wood Hammer, like I said, is a better move, but Seed Bomb is a viable option. Seed Bomb has no recoil, but suffers a severe power drop. And Rest is just a God-awful move for Torterra. Ice can wipe it out while Torterra is sleeping.

Cber? What does that mean? All these terms, I can't keep up.

Jinnai taichou June 18th, 2007 6:18 PM

CB'er = Choice Bander.

Eh, have to type more due to the message being too short.

sims796 June 19th, 2007 4:57 AM

Would Waterfall be a good replacement for Gyarados? I seem to miss ALOT with Aqua Tail, and its supposed to be 90 accuacy.

Nightofshadow June 19th, 2007 6:24 AM

yes waterfall is MUCH better in that respect

Iceman3k June 19th, 2007 7:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2537042)
Iceman, Iceman, Iceman. This is the second time you told someone to give Seed Bomb to Torterra. I will admit, it's not a bad move for him, but Wood Hammer is better.
Yes, Wood Hammer has more power I know, but Torterra can't suffer recoil forever. For every OHKO it gets, it's losing at least 25% health on average. If it drops a Blissey with Wood Hammer, then he's suffering a gigantic loss on HP.

Torterra
Earthquake
Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
Stone Edge/Rock Slide
Leech Seed/Syntheis

Leftovers w/ Leech Seed could help recover from your own Wood Hammer, but Synthesis is still an option. Remember, with all these Sandstorms, its a wee bit risky. Wood Hammer, like I said, is a better move, but Seed Bomb is a viable option. Seed Bomb has no recoil, but suffers a severe power drop. And Rest is just a God-awful move for Torterra. Ice can wipe it out while Torterra is sleeping.
Dunno what I was thinking when I put Rest. But I'm so dead paranoid on how Synthesis only recovers 25% health during Sandstorm. My idea was using Rest, then pulling an Aromatherapy / Heal Bell afterwards, but then again, that concept is a little to hard to pull so...

Cber? What does that mean? All these terms, I can't keep up.

CBer = Choice Bander, which is a Pokemon Attacking off of Choice Band.

sims796 June 19th, 2007 8:30 AM

I'm not saying Seed Bomb is bad, but if you suggest it, Wood Hammer should also be suggested.

Xairmo July 2nd, 2007 8:57 AM

...my dragonite, charizard, and nidoking could kill yours...

Xairmo July 18th, 2007 2:47 PM

you should teach dragonite the moveset
ice beam
dragon claw
fly
earthquake

Xairmo July 18th, 2007 2:49 PM

oh, and for your nidoking you should switch thunderbolt and/or waterpulse for poison jab or brick break

Xairmo July 18th, 2007 7:24 PM

another suggestion, use gallade instead of machamp

Alex_ July 18th, 2007 7:30 PM

Why did you quadruple post and revive an already-dead thread? o_O

Xairmo July 18th, 2007 7:32 PM

i dont know, just bored i guess

sims796 July 18th, 2007 8:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyranitar_dude (Post 2641622)
Why did you quadruple post and revive an already-dead thread? o_O

He's right. Thats not funny, quadruple-posting, and bringing up this OLD thread.

Chompah :x July 18th, 2007 8:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2641742)
He's right. Thats not funny, quadruple-posting, and bringing up this OLD thread.

I reckon.
He's a noob who reckons Dragonite wants Fly, Pfft.

Xairmo July 18th, 2007 8:31 PM

and whats wrong with the move fly?


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