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Shiraishi June 18th, 2007 4:59 PM

Tanker help..
 
So far my team is full of sweepers except for empoleon which happens to be a special wall according to someone ._. I wanna train a tanker but thats gonna be hard..Can someone give advice on what pokemon/nature/movesets and training places to make good tanker? (not EV training places, just normal exp training)

Hyunbin June 18th, 2007 6:37 PM

well to train quickly go to route 228 for wild pokemon, or on route 230 there's a swimmer near the island in the middle that has a dewgong and starmie both at lv60 and you get about 4700exp points every time you battle him
from time to time i go battle the elite four but a lot of them only give about 1600exp each

Richard Lynch June 18th, 2007 7:44 PM

Two of the more popular physical tanks are Skarmory and Steelix. Together they cover each other's weaknesses (except Fire), but I personally prefer Skarmory. No one can say no to a ground resistence.

Anywho...

Skarmory @ Leftovers/Chesto Berry
Impish Nature
- Drill Peck
- Roar/Whirlwind
- Spikes
- Rest/Roost

Chesto Berry if you want to have a free Rest... Leftovers if you have Aromatherapy/Heal Bell support. Roost is a decent move, but it doesn't cure status problems. Rest will always be the best recovery move.

Or if you choose Steelix...

(two kinds of movesets)

True Blue Wall:

Steelix @ Leftovers/Chesto Berry
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Stealth Rock
- Roar/Toxic

Pretty much the non-flying, slower version of Skarmory. Earthquake for STAB, Stealth Rock-Roar for a good annoying combo (or Toxic for a surprise), and Rest to keep him alive.

Pseudo-Attacking Wall

Steelix @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature (or Impish Nature)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Thunder Fang
- Explosion

This Steelix I personally made up and he can't survive like the other, but it can work well methinks. Steelix has a monster Defense stat... it's simply insane how high it is. So with all that Defense, he could go with Adamant to give him some extra Attack power, while not suffering from a major decrease in tanking ability.

Earthquake for STAB, Stone Edge for whatever Earthquake can't hit (like Skarmory). Many bulky water types like to switch in to Steelix and pwn him, but (with prediction), Thunder Fang will make them think twice. And finally, Explosion... Steelix has slightly average Attack, so Explosion won't do as much as with, say, Metagross, but it's pretty much an OHKO on anything doesn't resist it, or else doing at least 80-90% damage... could give you a leg up.

Source2007 June 18th, 2007 8:18 PM

skarmbliss is a popular combo.

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drill peck
spikes
roar
roost

physical wall. spikes+roar is fun if you can pull it off. roost when hp is low. don't let it get hit by anything special though, switch to blissey. drill peck is there for STAB.

[email protected]/bold
aromatherapy
softboiled
seismic toss
toxic

aromtherapy if you need to heal yourself or others of status problems. softboiled when hp gets low. seismic toss for constant 100 damage. toxic to annoy/phaze. switch to skarmory if any physical sweeper comes in.

or just a nice tank:

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rest
will-o-wisp
focus punch
shadow ball

great staller. rest when hp gets low. will-o-wisp physical sweepers. predict their switch out and use focus punch, and get a nice strong attack in. shadow ball for STAB

Samson June 18th, 2007 10:21 PM

one of my favorite walls is Pinsir @ Leftovers, Impish, Brick Break/Rock Slide/Bulk Up/Stealth Rock.

Shiraishi June 19th, 2007 12:20 PM

Thx guys ^^ ill try out skarbliss and dusknoir ^^

msdmario June 19th, 2007 1:55 PM

If you decide to use Skarmory, I recommend on teaching it Whirlwind instead of Roar. There are quite a few Pokemon that have the Soundproof ability which makes Roar ineffective.

Shiraishi June 19th, 2007 3:49 PM

If they're supposed to be bold nature..how do i train x-x

Richard Lynch June 19th, 2007 3:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Source2007 (Post 2537261)
[email protected]/bold
aromatherapy
softboiled
seismic toss
toxic

aromtherapy if you need to heal yourself or others of status problems. softboiled when hp gets low. seismic toss for constant 100 damage. toxic to annoy/phaze. switch to skarmory if any physical sweeper comes in.

I use SkarmBliss myself... and I suggest Rest on Skarmory with a Blissey. Rest heals status problems also, so it could be better. But I'm an old time player, I don't adapt well to change. XD

Replace Toxic with Ice Beam, though... otherwise, Gengar (Blissey's arch rival) will be able to destroy her. And you might be able to surprise any Garchomp or similar Dragon type that will probably switch in (with Garchomp being on about 8/10 teams, I'd say you can never have enough ice Beams!).

Fiore June 19th, 2007 4:57 PM

Yea, I use SkarmBliss also, with this set:

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Bold Nature
-Ice Beam
-Thunder Wave
-Softboiled
-Stealth Rock

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Impish Nature
-Drill Peck
-Spikes
-Whirlwind
-Roost

I don't know why, but I'm just a fan of Roost over Rest. Maybe because I have Aromatherapy on my Meganium to get rid of effects when I switch out.

Source2007 June 19th, 2007 5:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Steel (Post 2539278)
I use SkarmBliss myself... and I suggest Rest on Skarmory with a Blissey. Rest heals status problems also, so it could be better. But I'm an old time player, I don't adapt well to change. XD

Replace Toxic with Ice Beam, though... otherwise, Gengar (Blissey's arch rival) will be able to destroy her. And you might be able to surprise any Garchomp or similar Dragon type that will probably switch in (with Garchomp being on about 8/10 teams, I'd say you can never have enough ice Beams!).


nah i use rest on skarmory myself. i'm old school as well lol

Shiraishi June 20th, 2007 12:19 PM

But how do you train those tankers =/ I doubt you can exp share until 100...

Faceless* June 20th, 2007 1:08 PM

What about aggron? has a pretty good physical defense

Shiraishi June 20th, 2007 2:10 PM

Aggron has a 4x weakness to fighting D: most physical sweepers have a fighting move


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