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Cloud9 September 21st, 2007 8:12 PM

So its not too late to EV train around lvl 90-100? :nervous:

Shiny Umbreon September 21st, 2007 8:15 PM

You should mean 90-99. In Lv100, it's useless.

Anyway, if you reduce all the EVs your Pokémon must already have, you should still be able to train (with low level Pokémon) considering all the experience you need in the last levels.

Cloud9 September 21st, 2007 8:57 PM

Alright, let me see if I got most of this correct..

1)Lets say i have a level 92 Monferno, and i never knew about EV training till now, I wouldnt be able to get a STRONG Monferno right? Since the EV points are scattered all over the place?

2)Lets say i caught a lvl 5 Mukrow, and i wanted all the EV points to go into Attack and HP, Id have to fight the monsters that give EV points in those areas Over and over again ? and if i see other types of Pokemon, run away? Cause if I fight 4 Pokemon that give (Lets say Defense).. Id have 1 EV point put into Defense and id be screwed right?

3)Do you recommend beating through the whole game before EV training?
Thanks for answering all my questions :p

Bishopk September 21st, 2007 9:03 PM

1) It would be a more round and even one, since the EVs are spread out.
Why do you have a lv. 92 Monferno?
2) Yes, yes, and no. If you fight one Pokémon for a defense EV, it gives you a defense EV. It can be erased by a happiness berry (the specific one slips my mind).
3) Yes. You can't really EV train in-game, because you follow a set path. Do you understand? you can hang out around Route 201 killing Bidoof forever, but that's boring.

And: I did get the box trick to work once in D/P, my Blissey was in the middle of a level and I put it in and its HP rose one.

ThePlaya September 21st, 2007 10:57 PM

hey i wanted to ask this question

soemone somewhere in the fisrt page(i think)posted that if you battled a trainier's pokes then it will give it 2x the evs...is he right?

Toothache September 22nd, 2007 12:47 AM

It depends how you levelled your Pokemon to such a high level. If you just used Rare Candy (and only RCs), then you can still EV train BEFORE L100. Once you reach L100 you can't EV train since you can't gain EV if you can't gain Exp. Using the Day-Care Centre to level up works like this too, since you're not battling.

If you levelled up by battling, then you've already eaten into your EV limit, and it's advisable to use some EV reducing berries like Pomegs to reduce them before starting training.

airconditioning September 22nd, 2007 3:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePlaya (Post 2912964)
hey i wanted to ask this question

soemone somewhere in the fisrt page(i think)posted that if you battled a trainier's pokes then it will give it 2x the evs...is he right?

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it's the same amount as normal Pokemon.

Shiny Umbreon September 22nd, 2007 9:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bishopk (Post 2912669)
And: I did get the box trick to work once in D/P, my Blissey was in the middle of a level and I put it in and its HP rose one.

Really? Can you try it again? Because I read somewhere it had been fixed ages ago, in Bulbapedia, I think. Also, I tried it with my Weavile and nothing happened.

Cloud9 September 22nd, 2007 9:58 AM

Hey I just read about Breeding and such..Ok so now.. if i wanted a really strong Pokemon, if i Get 2 Newborn Pokemons, and EV train them both, breed em, then would the baby of THOSE TWO have Good IV?

Bishopk September 22nd, 2007 11:30 AM

IV != EV
It's one IV from the mother, one from the father, one from a random parent, and the other 3 are random.

Shiny Umbreon September 22nd, 2007 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud9 (Post 2914931)
Hey I just read about Breeding and such..Ok so now.. if i wanted a really strong Pokemon, if i Get 2 Newborn Pokemons, and EV train them both, breed em, then would the baby of THOSE TWO have Good IV?

That would result in a total waste of time. Babies get IVs, not EVs. For IVs, you have to be lucky or know how to IV-breed.

Znale September 22nd, 2007 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Umbreon (Post 2915373)
That would result in a total waste of time. Babies get IVs, not EVs. For IVs, you have to be lucky or know how to IV-breed.

Breeding is a matter of skill and patience. It can get a bit complicated, for example to get a good Weavile, you need to catch or get a male Hitmonchan and make it learn Ice Punch. Then you need a good IVd (Not necessary at this point) female Buneary and breed Ice Punch to a baby Buneary with good IVs. Then you need a perfect Natured and very good IVd Sneasel and breed them. The baby must have Ice Punch, perfect Nature and very good IVs to make it worthwhile.

sims796 September 27th, 2007 10:27 AM

I would like to add on route 222, last fisherman to the left, has two Gyarados, for 2 attack each.

Shiny Umbreon September 27th, 2007 1:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2933998)
I would like to add on route 222, last fisherman to the left, has two Gyarados, for 2 attack each.

PLease post the name and location of the guy (for example, "the first guy on the left" or "the fisherman near the swimmer pair") I'm really tired to search for them.

sims796 September 27th, 2007 1:30 PM

Sure, no problem.

Route 222 (Outside Sunnyshore)
Name:Alec
Occupation:Fisherman
Location:Along the coast-last Fisherman to the far left
Says: "Welcome traveler! I forgotten your name, but we've battled before, haven't we?"
Pokemon 2 Gyarados (2 ATK EV each)

Shiny Umbreon September 27th, 2007 1:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2934777)
Sure, no problem.

Route 222 (Outside Sunnyshore)
Name:Alec
Occupation:Fisherman
Location:Along the coast-last Fisherman to the far left
Says: "Welcome traveler! I forgotten your name, but we've battled before, haven't we?"
Pokemon 2 Gyarados (2 ATK EV each)

Okay, thanks, though the line wasn't necessary.

mudkiprulz September 29th, 2007 11:11 AM

wait.... what?
 
ok so after i ev trained my electivire, when it leveled ^ it gained 24 attack, but then the next level only gained 3 attack, then i evd it in speed then it gained 22 speed, and the same thing happened... what's wrong? i think its to make up for the lost stats because it was the PBR electivire got at lv 50... and i didn't know where to put this, so i put it here...

piplup-inator September 29th, 2007 12:09 PM

hmm
 
You know it might be a glitch, if it's not I don't know what it is

Bishopk September 29th, 2007 1:11 PM

It may have gained all the EVs possible.
If not, then it's just scaling properly. Have you noticed that you still get stat bonuses every level, even if EV training is finished? It isn't going to dump (example) 714 HP on your Blissey when you're done with EV training, it will give you enough that you will have that much at lv. 100.

sims796 September 29th, 2007 6:52 PM

You made a minor error, that REALLY threw me off EV training. On the vs seeker section, under SP.DEF, you said Pelliper gives two sp.def ev's. They really give two DEFENCE. That really threw me off, but nothing I couldn't fix with berries. You might wanna change that.

The trainer that has it is Sailor Marc, Route 222, that you put up. You put up that it has Mantine and Pelliper. Mantine gives 2 sp.def, but Pelliper has 2 DEF.

No problem, I realized that my Vileplume is better with the extra defence. So, in a way, you really helped. Thanks.

Typhmaster October 3rd, 2007 9:39 AM

this is great, after Ev training my weavile, i'm sweeping teams now XD. Thanks!

Tyranita October 7th, 2007 10:16 PM

hey sorry if it has been asked before but i was curious was to what would happen with EV's/IV's still a tad unclear so i will reread the first page, if the pokemon leveled a few times in one go?? thanks

Neo Android October 9th, 2007 12:26 PM

im going to start ev training my pokemon when there at level 10 is that the right level to start training or should i wait till im like level 20?

jigglyppuff8 October 9th, 2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo Android (Post 2983297)
im going to start ev training my pokemon when there at level 10 is that the right level to start training or should i wait till im like level 20?

Any level is OK to start training. No matter the lv. of the pokemon, it will always gain EVs. Levels just make it easier to KO the other pokemon.

Shiny Umbreon October 9th, 2007 1:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigglyppuff8 (Post 2983417)
Any level is OK to start training. No matter the lv. of the pokemon, it will always gain EVs. Levels just make it easier to KO the other pokemon.

And I have to add that you need to make sure to drop them down to 0 again to start counting.


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