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J-Rad August 16th, 2007 12:30 PM

um also on the route 222 Salor Marc has a mantine and a Peliper for s. defence.
Nice giude by the way its helped me a lot

Shiny Umbreon August 16th, 2007 5:07 PM

^OK. I'll check that another time (tomorrow night, maybe) I'm busy now.

Abdul August 18th, 2007 3:54 PM

I've been EVing my Electabuzz in the cave where regigas was...Sneals & Golbat get speed

spyroflameX August 18th, 2007 4:56 PM

To get speed easily, go to Eterna. Then head west, where there are 4 fishermen. The 3rd from the left, the 2nd from the right, has 6 Magikarps, that only have Splash. =D

EDIT:: Aw crud. Looks like they found that place. xD Sorry for not noticing before.

Master Exploder August 26th, 2007 12:32 PM

Awesome guide, it's helped me alot. Just one question though, if im planning on getting 2 different stats up, once i get one to 63, how will i know? Will i have to calculate? Because i don't want to accidently end up training one stat up 126, haha.

piplup 2020 August 27th, 2007 1:29 PM

dude when u EV train sometimes i get +2 of everything else cept speed... and when i bet like 28 zubat i only got like +2. y dint i get plus 7?

Shiny Umbreon August 27th, 2007 3:52 PM

Probably it's because you're training with Zubat. They only give 1 Speed EV, against Golbat's 2. Maybe your Pokémon doesn't need too much experience to level up so you don't get many EVs in one level. Also, try the Macho Brace/PokeRus. It doesn't matter. It's the same in the end.

piplup 2020 August 28th, 2007 6:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Umbreon (Post 2817776)
Probably it's because you're training with Zubat. They only give 1 Speed EV, against Golbat's 2. Maybe your Pokémon doesn't need too much experience to level up so you don't get many EVs in one level. Also, try the Macho Brace/PokeRus. It doesn't matter. It's the same in the end.

ok.... but when u get 4EV u go up one rite? soooo y dint it work?

Trodx August 28th, 2007 11:00 AM

Is there a guide like this for emerald?

Shiny Umbreon August 28th, 2007 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by piplup 2020 (Post 2819906)
ok.... but when u get 4EV u go up one rite? soooo y dint it work?

Really it's not like you get +8 each level. It depends. Also, it's not because you're doing it bad. IN the end, it will be alright. This helps a lot but you can't see the difference whenever you level up (you see one, but not a big one)

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Originally Posted by Trodx (Post 2820694)
Is there a guide like this for emerald?

Unless you mean the locations, this guide can be applied to Emerald, too. If you mean the locations, you can try asking in the GBA forum or in Serebii maybe.

pokenutjob August 28th, 2007 2:04 PM

Ok. so i was looking at how macho brace gives double but using say, a power bracelet, gives +4 ev's, would it be better to use the bracelts when specifically upping one certain stat?

ex. instead of using macho brace to get double speed stats (fighting zubats) use speed bracelet to get +4?

or is macho brace the best to use ?

is it better to use a certain bracelet to get +4 extra ev's or just use macho bracelt?

Virtual Headache August 28th, 2007 2:07 PM

No actually, the Power Items are a better choice.

For example if you get 1 EV
Macho brace would make it 2 (4 with Pokérus) while with the Power Item 5 (10 with Pokérus).

pokenutjob August 28th, 2007 2:34 PM

i am 100% new to this ev training. i attached the power weight bracelet to my level one lickitung and made him fight a level 28 gastroodon (i switched out to a stronger guy of course). hes now leveled up to 15 and his hp went from 11 to 54 . is that good? hah newbie question.

piplup 2020 August 28th, 2007 4:17 PM

if i use the lucky egg will i get less EP? if im on like LV 40?

Shiny Umbreon August 28th, 2007 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Virtual Headache (Post 2821346)
No actually, the Power Items are a better choice.

For example if you get 1 EV
Macho brace would make it 2 (4 with Pokérus) while with the Power Item 5 (10 with Pokérus).

I'm not sure, but I thought the Power Item + Pokerus was the other way around (1*2+4 = 6) Anyway, it's better with the items, except you can only get them in the Battle Tower, I think.

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Originally Posted by piplup 2020 (Post 2821851)
if i use the lucky egg will i get less EP? if im on like LV 40?

It doesn't matter what you use. The thing is that having a Lucky Egg won't let you hold a Power Item or a Macho Brace. It's your choice, though.

~Mithos~ August 30th, 2007 5:33 PM

wait shiny umbreon are you sure it only gives six? that means I have to Re-EV train half of my new team -__-

Bishopk August 30th, 2007 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Umbreon (Post 2822618)
I'm not sure, but I thought the Power Item + Pokerus was the other way around (1*2+4 = 6)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiny Umbreon (Post 2552695)
Now, here's where I will explain how the PKRS + Item Combo works.
...
Defeating a Pokemon who gives 1 EV: Power Item + PKRS. The Power Item adds +4 EVs you get from defeating a Pokemon. So if you defeat a Pokemon who gives 1 EV, then add + 4 it's 5 EVs from that single Pokemon. Then you have PKRS, which then doubles the 5 EVs to 10. So by defeating a single Starly, holding the Power Anklet, and having PKRS gives 10 Speed EVs.

Yeah, make up your mind. I've been operating on the bottom assumption for... ever. And, it works for me. I've recieved the Effort Ribbon.

Shiny Umbreon August 31st, 2007 1:20 PM

OK. Forget what I said about 6 then. I just had that in my mind at the moment and I got confused. So, it's (1+4)*2 = 10.

~Mithos~ August 31st, 2007 2:01 PM

=/ I spent a whole extra half hour EV training counting it as only 6 EV's last night =D oh well.

zer0vrs September 1st, 2007 7:19 AM

Training location...
 
i need a good and possibaly fast place to train my Pupitar to Tyranitar. hes at lvl 50 now, and ive gone to victory road, but he has a tendency to die alot on some of the pokemon. it takes FOREVER to train him there. Tyranitar is the LAST pokemon i need to complete my dex (i know, i could just use rare candies, but ive lvl'ed up all my pokemon by fighting and hes going to be evolved the same way). any ways for me too this faster?

DayDreamer September 1st, 2007 8:00 AM

Macho Brace doubles Evs gained right? If I made a Pokemon hold it and gave it a Vitamin, will the Macho Brace double the effect of the Vitamin?

Sorry if this has been asked btw.

pokenutjob September 1st, 2007 9:35 PM

do your ev's disappear after fainting?


and are high ev gainage more towards higher levels? it seems like i am getting mostly +4/5 stat but every 10 levels i get like 15 +'s

Shiny Umbreon September 2nd, 2007 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DayDreamer (Post 2836298)
Macho Brace doubles Evs gained right? If I made a Pokemon hold it and gave it a Vitamin, will the Macho Brace double the effect of the Vitamin?

Sorry if this has been asked btw.

I'm not sure, but I think it only affects EVs you gain in battle. Anyway, you can only take 10 vitamins (100 EVs). If it did affect, you'd probably be able to take only 5.

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Originally Posted by pokenutjob (Post 2839512)
do your ev's disappear after fainting?


and are high ev gainage more towards higher levels? it seems like i am getting mostly +4/5 stat but every 10 levels i get like 15 +'s

1. Obviously not. Just the EVs form the last battle because you didn't win it.
2. If you're training in the same area, your Pokémon will eventually need more Exp. If you keep training with low-level Pokémon, you'll have to battle more Pokémon and thus gain more EVs. There's no difference in the end, though.

ShadowTails September 2nd, 2007 1:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Umbreon (Post 2841166)
I'm not sure, but I think it only affects EVs you gain in battle. Anyway, you can only take 10 vitamins (100 EVs). If it did affect, you'd probably be able to take only 5.

Nope, Macho Brace and Pokerus don't effect Vitamins, it takes 10 even with both things on your Pokemon.

Shiny Umbreon September 3rd, 2007 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowTails (Post 2842488)
Nope, Macho Brace and Pokerus don't effect Vitamins, it takes 10 even with both things on your Pokemon.

Okay, thanks for confirmation, ShadowTails. I wasn't totally sure about it.


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