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Show Me The Best Wall Team
I am intrested in making a defensive team. I am not sure about Nature's. Here are some of the pokemon that i was thinking about using. I will probably be utilizing Toxic and Curse(for Dusknoir).
Dusknoir Shuckle Probopass Please give some suggestions |
Some good walls are blissey and snorlax I think.
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Both Blissey and Snorlax have great SDef, but they both have bad Def. I would probably choose Blissey
So far we have: [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Curse -Destiny Bond -Confuse Ray -Shadow Punch [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Softboiled -Attract -FILLER -FILLER [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Iron Defense -Thunder Wave -FILLER -FILLER [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Toxic -FILLER -FILLER -FILLER I need some move suggestions and some help with Natures If you think i should change these pokemon, please post. |
Uh, I'm sure Milotic is a great Special Wall, with its phenomonal Special Defense.
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That is a good choice. Our team doesnt have a weakness to Elec or Grass yet. Its Defense isnt half bad either. We will add Milotic.
The Team so far is: [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Curse -Destiny Bond -Confuse Ray -Shadow Punch [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Softboiled -Attract -FILLER -FILLER [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Iron Defense -Thunder Wave -FILLER -FILLER [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Toxic -FILLER -FILLER -FILLER [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Aqua Ring -Mirror Coat -FILLER -FILLER We only need one more pokemon until the Defense Team is complete if you have any more suggestions, changes, or additions, please post. |
How about adding an Umbreon. Her Defense and Special Defense along with her HP aint to shabby either.
She can also learn a variety of annoying attacks such as Toxic, Taunt, Yawn, Mean Look etc. |
Schuckle is bad... best Defenses in the game, but his HP is TERRIBLE. Check out Claydol...
Claydol + Skarmory + Blissey = best walling team. Add Dusknoir, and maybe Spiritomb. Milotic works too. So: Claydol Skarmory Blissey Dusknoir Spiritomb Milotic |
Pain Split on Noir makes him one bad tanking machine. You should probably remove Curse, unless you add Mean Look.
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Ok, Ok, lets hold on a minute. I agree about the Shuckle statement made by Richard Steel, so we are going to get rid of it. Plain Split is a good idea, so we get rid of Curse, and put that in. Claydol has high defense, but he also has six weakness:
Water Grass Ice Bug Ghost Dark I am afarid that is a few to many. I will remove Probopass because it to has poor HP, and i will put in Skarmory. I will also add Spiritomb, but there probably is a pokemon with better defense. So Far: [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Pain Split -Destiny Bond -Confuse Ray -Shadow Punch [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Softboiled -Attract -FILLER -FILLER [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Spikes -Whirlwind -Drill Peck -Steel Wing [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Curse -Confuse Ray -Nasty Plot -Dark Pulse [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Aqua Ring -Mirror Coat -FILLER -FILLER I am open to more suggestions. Please look at the team first to make sure you wont add a weakness we already have a few of. |
On blissy! to have a good one, have this move set:
[email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Softboiled -Attract (no, you might run into female pokemon, the this is pointless) So change it to Toxic! -FILLER (Sysmic toss) To do 100 damage! -FILLER (Armoatheripy or refresh) To get rid of any status conditions! |
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Thunderwave and seimic toss for the last 2 attacks :V Toxic sucks on blissey, There is NO reason to put it on her |
I strongly recommend Milotic to have her moveset this way...
- Surf (for Stab) - Ice Beam - Recover - Mirror Coat/Hypnosis Aqua Ring is in no way as good as Recover. Without it Milotic will not last too long in battle. Plus you have Leftovers which fill in the same role. Some offense attacks are nice even if your team is a bunch of walls. Surf can smash through anyone who doesnt resist it because she has a pretty over average Special Attack. Ice Beams stop Dragon sweepers in their tracks. Mirror Coats make Special Sweepers think twice. Hypnosis can disable an annoying Pokemon. For your last Pokemon I recommend Umbreon. She has a base Defense stat of 110, a base stat of 130 for Special Defense and a base HP of 95. She could be a Toxi-tank meaning she can use Mean Look to trap and opponent and kill them with purple goo. She can also learn Baton Pass and Wish, a viable support member for recovering the teams HP. Her movepool is quite large as the attacks she learns are Confuse Ray, Curse, Fake Tears, Tickle, Wish , Yawn, Taunt and much more. Not to mention she is only weak to fighting and bug types. But even with such a weakness it takes a few turns to knock her out. On the good side she has an immunity to Psychic and resistances to Ghost and Dark. |
Ok, time to make some adjustments. After reading your comments, i have some moves to add and change. Thanks to all who posted, and please keep doing so. I will add Umbreon. Thx Punishment. I think that is a good addition.
[email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Pain Split -Destiny Bond -Confuse Ray -Shadow Punch [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Softboiled -Toxic OR Thunder Wave -Aromatherapy -Seismic Toss [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Spikes -Whirlwind -Drill Peck -Steel Wing [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Curse -Confuse Ray -Nasty Plot -Dark Pulse [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Recover -Mirror Coat -Ice Beam -Surf [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Mean Look -Toxic -Confuse Ray Or Baton Pass -Wish I cannot decied to keep Toxic or Thunder Wave for Blissey and Confuse Ray or Baton Pass for Umbreon. Please post an argument for one side to make my choice the right one. I also need natures so post more. I am always open to suggestions. |
Thunder Wave for Blissey because she needs it to outrun her opponents. Umbreon can take care of toxicating. Baton Pass over Confuse Ray because Umbreon is slow so you would want it to take a hit for a Pokemon so the one coming in can get Wish and wont be hit. Not to mention you want to lock your opponent in with Mean Look while toxicating and Baton Pass posses that over.
Natures for Milotic is Bold or Calm. Skarmory is Impish and Blissey and Umbreon Bold. |
Thx again Punishment. I now have some of the Natures. We will go with Thuder Wave and Baton Pass. I think we have a really good team coming along.
So Far: [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Pain Split -Destiny Bond -Confuse Ray -Shadow Punch [email protected] Leftovers Nature: Bold -Softboiled -Thunder Wave -Aromatherapy -Seismic Toss [email protected] Leftovers Nature: Impish -Spikes -Whirlwind -Drill Peck -Steel Wing [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Curse -Confuse Ray -Nasty Plot -Dark Pulse [email protected] Leftovers Nature: Bold -Recover -Mirror Coat -Ice Beam -Surf [email protected] Leftovers Nature: Bold -Mean Look -Toxic -Baton Pass -Wish Continue to post. We still need Natures for Spiritomb and Dusknoir. I am always open to comments. |
For Skarmory you may want to go with Rest/Roost instead of Steel Wing. A recovery move would make it last way longer in battle.
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Good Idea Punishment. Keep them coming. I am also going to start an overall best Team thread. Look for it.
So Far We Have: [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Pain Split -Destiny Bond -Confuse Ray -Shadow Punch [email protected] Leftovers Nature: Bold -Softboiled -Thunder Wave -Aromatherapy -Seismic Toss [email protected] Leftovers Nature: Impish -Spikes -Whirlwind -Drill Peck -Roost [email protected] Leftovers Nature: -Curse -Confuse Ray -Nasty Plot -Dark Pulse [email protected] Leftovers Nature: Bold -Recover -Mirror Coat -Ice Beam -Surf [email protected] Leftovers Nature: Bold -Mean Look -Toxic -Baton Pass -Wish I am always open to new suggestions |
Will-o-wisp on Dusknoir maybe a good idea. It burns the opponenet for damage while cutting their attack stat in half.
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