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Well then we can't have a Crobat. If we add Scizor as cool as he is then half the team would have a glaring weakness to Fire.
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So you're saying that Scizor can take Crobat's place? No scarcasm, I'm just confused. And I didn't even notice our little fire weakness.
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I'm saying if we plan to include two of these Pokemon: Metagross, Crobat, Scizor, one of them has to go. Half the time is weak to fire which can be exploited.
I'm not trying to suggest Scizor takes Crobats place. We all want to keep Metagross so it is either Scizor or Crobat that has to go. Personally I dont think we need Scizor. (as great as he is) |
Oh yes, yes yes. We have five, and need one more. My mistake. This is kinda fun, everyone coming up with a great team (which we probably won't use ourselves)
So, on Heracross,how bout this Heracross-Guts Adamant Megahorn Close Combat/Brick Break Pursuit Stone Edge With this, it could sweep through almost anything, but don't we have a sweeper? |
all right we have some decisions to make. We have several pokemon to chose from. As Punishment said, we can only have one of these pokemon, due to the weaknesses to fire. We will not have more than two pokemon with the same weakness. Here are the pokemon:
Scizor (Baton Pass) HP-70 A-130 D-100 SA-55 SD-80 S-65 Crobat (Annoyer/Speed) HP-85 A-90 D-80 SA-70 SD-80 S-130 Heracross (Attack Sweeper) HP-80 A-125 D-75 SA-40 SD-95 S-85 Its funny how all of these pokemon are from the Johto Region. The reason i suggested Heracross was because i wanted to find a decent pokemon that could resist ground attacks. I have posted the Base Stats for each of these pokemon. i think that we should go with either Heracross or Scizor. Crobat is fast and annoying, but he is unable to compete with pokemon like Dragonite, Milotic, plus many people run steel types, and i hate how poison cant even effect them. |
We can go with Scizor but even if we choose Heracross along with it we still have half the team weak to fire. Metagross, Scizor and Heracross. We need something with speed so I am going to suggest a Garchomp.
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I only meant for us to chose one of those pokemon on that list. Garchomp would be a good pokemon for the last choice. We could have Salamence and Dragonite for that matter. I do think it should be at least part dragon, seeing as we dont have one of those yet. Since we will probably have at least two pokemon weak against fire, we should balance it out with many pokemon resistant to fire(i.e. Dragon type).
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Okay I noticed that Dusknoir doesn't have a move set and we don't have a designated annoyer.
So how bout -Curse -Confuse ray/Calm Mind -Toxic -Shadow Punch and we change his nature from Calm to Sassy, which raises Sp.Def and lowers Speed. |
I am gonna go with Scizor. He is only weak to Fire and his Defense and Attack stats are great. Heracross is weak to flying and fire etc.
As for the last Pokemon I nominate Garchomp definately. This team needs Speed and he has it. |
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Edit:Garchomp's base speed stat is only 2 better than Salamences, 100 to 102, he is better defensively though, but water attacks do normal damage. |
I was wondering why you guys wanted a annoyer. Dusknoir is an annoyer, he just also makes a great wall. His moveset should probably be:
[email protected] Leftovers EV's Def-252, SpDef-252, HP-6 Nature: Sassy -Curse -Mean Look -Rest -Shadow Punch Or Confuse Ray He does not need Toxic because by the time toxic kicks in, he will already be killed by Curse. (1/4) of HP each turn. Mean Look makes it so he cant run from Curse (Muhahahah). Rest so that he can get healed after Curse. Shadow Punch or Confuse Ray to shave off more HP or to annoy even more. |
If we do go with Salamence I did always like the Draco Meteor one. I went up against one and it completely dented my teams walls. All it does it hit and run but still enough to cripple teams.
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Curse Mean Look Rest/Confuse Ray Shadow Punch And just a random thought here, we could get a speedy pokemon like Ninjask/Crobat/Weavile as a fifth with Sunny Day and then throw a Salamence out there as a sixth with Solarbeam to take care of any pesky Milotics. I'm not going to serious with this just something that could be grown apon. Edit: Woops got Salamence mixed up with Arcanine, Salamence can't learn Solarbeam, ignore^^ |
This is a tough choice. On the one hand, Salamence is uneffected by ground attacks, has DD under his belt, and honestly, he looks better than Garchomp. On the other hand, Garchomp has one less weakness than Salamence, and has more speed (even if it is only a little). If we go with Scizor, we should go with Salamence. If we go with Crobat or Heracross, then we go with Garchomp.
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I personally find Heracross very overrated. Ice moves are more effective on Salamence but because of Garchomp ground types some moves that are ussually not very efective are of normal effect.
My main reason for posting, whats DD? |
I agree Mr.May16. We will go with Rest. Confuse Ray is fun to do to people, but it is only useful 50% of the time. Final Choice:?
[email protected] Leftovers EV's Def-252, SpDef-252, HP-6 Nature: Sassy -Curse -Mean Look -Rest -Shadow Punch |
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Porygon-Z Dusknoir Milotic Scizor/Heracross/Crobat/Weavile Salamence/Garchomp What looks scarier? |
I would just like to add that Dusknoir could doom a Blissey. Not even Aromatherapy can cure a curse. It can use softboiled all it wants, its not going to win.
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Nothing Mr.May 16, Nothing. This is the line up i think we should use.
Dusknoir Milotic Metagross Porygon-Z Scizor Salamence Once again. Nothing. |
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Lookin at this makes me sad, makes me miss the Salamence my brother traded when he stoll my Pearl, but anyways I think we've made a scary team. Now we need move sets for Salamence and Scizor. |
Does Salamence still do the Dragon Dance thing?
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We will wait till the other usualls have a chance to respond. It took a while but i think we made some good choices. Plus, besides the sticky threads, we have the most popular string on this topic. I am going to change my trainer card to fit the team we made if the others agree.
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Well do we want to go with the Physical Sweeping Salamence or the Hit and Run Draco Meteor-mence. Personally I'd go with the Draco Meteor Salamence. Being the first Pokemon it can just use Draco Meteor heavily damaging what is out in front of it. If the opponent is smart they'd swithc out their crippled Pokemon. Basically that is when we pull Salamence out and rest the field with Dusknoir.
As for one of Dusknoir's moves... why isn't Will-o-Wisp one of them? It can basically stop all Physical Sweepers in their tracks. I also agree on the team we have chosen. A sCizor would setup a Porygon-Z perfectly. |
The reason Dusknoir doesnt have wil-o-wisp is because it is unnessary with Curse on hand.
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But what else would Dusknoir do after it does Mean Look and Curse? It would just sit there and wait for the Pokemon to die.
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