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m June 26th, 2007 5:40 PM

The Elite Four
 
Ok, im about to enter the new Victory Road. I just recently caught a Mantyke in the oceans below the waterfall. I love my Mantyke, and I may even want to evolve him sometime. I was wondering if I should evolve him, and if - or if not - should I take him to the E4 with me? Thanks~



This is my party-

-Empoleon Lvl 42
-Dialga Lvl 48
-Luxray Lvl 40
-Staraptor Lvl 39 (Maybe 40)
-Clefable Lvl 38
-Mantyke Lvl 40 (I think)

Jirachi3 June 26th, 2007 6:01 PM

ditch the luxray for a gallade

m June 26th, 2007 6:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jirachi3 (Post 2561109)
ditch the luxray for a gallade




Thanks Jirachi, but that wasn't the question. What about my mantyke?

IPanda June 26th, 2007 6:05 PM

probably evolve him with a water stone or by training, then take him in- he, or she, will help with flint.(Fire-3rd Elite)

Jirachi3 June 26th, 2007 6:06 PM

lol well mantyke's att and sp. atk are WAYYYYY low so i wouldnt recommend using it


EDIT: iPanda it evolves with remoraid on team not with water stone...

m June 26th, 2007 6:09 PM

Thanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jirachi3 (Post 2561121)
lol well mantyke's att and sp. atk are WAYYYYY low so i wouldnt recommend using it


EDIT: iPanda it evolves with remoraid on team not with water stone...


But I love my Mantyke...Oh well lol I havnt made my decision yet.

411Break June 26th, 2007 6:59 PM

Evolve him. Definately train your party some more. Not strong enough yet.

Live in Color June 26th, 2007 7:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jirachi3 (Post 2561109)
ditch the luxray for a gallade

Luxray would help a lot more than a Gallade would for first time Elite Four. Most of Aaron's bug pokemon are part flying, giving Luxray an advantage. Only thing Gallade can really take out is part of Bertha's because she has a Steelix, Sudowoodo and a Golem. So far they're both basically equal, but Luxray, in my opinion is a lot easier to use than a Gallade.

EDIT: I only use two Pokemon and take out the whole Elite Four. Dragonite and Salamence. Dragonite can take out all of Aaron because he has Thunderpunch, and most of his have low defense. Then it's Bertha, who is Ground. Dragonite also has Aqua Tail. To take care of everything that Aqua Tail and Thunderpunch can't, he has Dragon Dance and Dragon Rush. Salamence knows Dragon Claw, Aerial Ace, Crunch and Earthquake. They both have a big mix of moves, and that's basically the trick to take out the Elite Four, get a big mix of moves.

Richard Lynch June 26th, 2007 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jirachi3 (Post 2561121)
lol well mantyke's att and sp. atk are WAYYYYY low so i wouldnt recommend using it

But his Special Defense is simply INSANE, which makes up for his terrible Electric weakness (granted most of the common Electric moves are Special).

Either way, Dialga can pwn the Elite 4 by itself, so the other members are pretty much fillers.

m June 26th, 2007 7:27 PM

Thanks Everyone!
 
Thanks everyone for your input on how I should go about this. Blazed, nice Dragonite and Salamence!



Thanks~

lazeboy4life555 June 26th, 2007 9:57 PM

incase you need to know, you can only evolve a mantyke by having a remoraid in you're party...after 1 level up it evolves into mantine

m June 26th, 2007 9:59 PM

Yeah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lazeboy4life555 (Post 2561641)
incase you need to know, you can only evolve a mantyke by having a remoraid in you're party...after 1 level up it evolves into mantine



Yeah, I know. Thanks. I really love my Mantyke, he is so cute.

Dawg 2005 June 27th, 2007 5:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m (Post 2561040)
Ok, im about to enter the new Victory Road. I just recently caught a Mantyke in the oceans below the waterfall. I love my Mantyke, and I may even want to evolve him sometime. I was wondering if I should evolve him, and if - or if not - should I take him to the E4 with me? Thanks~



This is my party-

-Empoleon Lvl 42
-Dialga Lvl 48
-Luxray Lvl 40
-Staraptor Lvl 39 (Maybe 40)
-Clefable Lvl 38
-Mantyke Lvl 40 (I think)

Well, I would say not to bring him, since he isn't really all that great offensively. Plus, you've already got a water type on your team. I would personally get rid of him for the Elite 4 and bring in a Psychic Pokemon like Kadabra or Alakazam. But that's just me.

Oh, and train your team, like, 10 more levels each.

diamondpearl876 June 27th, 2007 5:26 AM

When I was battling the Elite Four, I never used my Empoleon (water type like Mantyke) so I don't think it'd be needed. You can bring it along just in case, or use it in Battle Tower later (should be level 50 by then, though, because that's all it accepts I believe).

Also, train up your team more.. All my Pokemon were level 55 when I beat it, and I had a few issues.

wakachamo June 27th, 2007 7:35 AM

This belongs to Pokémon Strategies & Movesets, so I'll just move it to over there for ya.

Moved~

m June 27th, 2007 10:38 AM

Thanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wakachamo (Post 2562304)
This belongs to Pokémon Strategies & Movesets, so I'll just move it to over there for ya.

Moved~



Thanks wakachamo. Appreciate it.

Shiraishi June 27th, 2007 11:16 AM

Mantine has insane Sp def but the fact that he has a 4x weakness makes him useless immediately. Use empoleon and get a garchomp/hipowdon =/ Cynthia's lucario was hell for me..

m June 27th, 2007 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cakekun (Post 2563014)
Mantine has insane Sp def but the fact that he has a 4x weakness makes him useless immediately. Use empoleon and get a garchomp/hipowdon =/ Cynthia's lucario was hell for me..




Thanks Cakekun. Garchomp did sound like a really good Pokemon.

Espeon Master June 27th, 2007 12:38 PM

Mantyke/Mantine may not be the best water types, but if you want to use it in game you should. Even if he has low attacks and a big weakness you shouldn't have much trouble with in game trainers, so use a Pokemon you like. =P Just switch him out when you battle competitively.

Anyways for the elite four...
On Aaron you should be able to blow through him with your Staraptor if you level it up some more.
Bertha will go down with your Empoleon, but you'll need something with a grass move for Quagsire and Whiscash
Flint's Pokemon will go down with Empoleon too, Drifblim to Luxray and sombody else for Lopunny.
Against Lucian There isn't too much you can do except beat him with your strongest attacks (since you don't have a dark type). Crunch, if you have it on Luxray, is good. For Medicham use Staraptor.
For Cynthia- Milotic goes down to your Luxray, Roserade to Staraptor, Dialga can take out Garchomp. As for her other 3 I don't know what to tell you. Gastrodon, again, you need a grass type. Spiritomb has no weakness. Lucario has a lot of weaknesses (fire, psychic, ground) but I don't know if any of your Pokemon have those moves. I suppose Dialga could cover those though. Lots of people say they get throught the elite four using him =)

Just level up a bit more and maybe get a temporary grass or psychic type to use. Hope That helps.

m June 27th, 2007 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Espeon Master (Post 2563271)
Mantyke/Mantine may not be the best water types, but if you want to use it in game you should. Even if he has low attacks and a big weakness you shouldn't have much trouble with in game trainers, so use a Pokemon you like. =P Just switch him out when you battle competitively.

Anyways for the elite four...
On Aaron you should be able to blow through him with your Staraptor if you level it up some more.
Bertha will go down with your Empoleon, but you'll need something with a grass move for Quagsire and Whiscash
Flint's Pokemon will go down with Empoleon too, Drifblim to Luxray and sombody else for Lopunny.
Against Lucian There isn't too much you can do except beat him with your strongest attacks (since you don't have a dark type). Crunch, if you have it on Luxray, is good. For Medicham use Staraptor.
For Cynthia- Milotic goes down to your Luxray, Roserade to Staraptor, Dialga can take out Garchomp. As for her other 3 I don't know what to tell you. Gastrodon, again, you need a grass type. Spiritomb has no weakness. Lucario has a lot of weaknesses (fire, psychic, ground) but I don't know if any of your Pokemon have those moves. I suppose Dialga could cover those though. Lots of people say they get throught the elite four using him =)

Just level up a bit more and maybe get a temporary grass or psychic type to use. Hope That helps.



Thanks Espeon, that helps a LOT.

sims796 June 27th, 2007 12:47 PM

The only reason I'm not using Mantine is the time you get him (I like my team before the 5th badge). Mantine is a terrific pokemon who makes up for his electric weakness with extremly high sp.def. What brings him down is a limited movepool.


Espeon Master gave good advice, but I have to say, the best way to beat the Elite Four is to look up what pokemon they have. I know you're smart enough to figure out how to best them from there.


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