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Crimson Arcanine June 27th, 2007 8:48 AM

Need a second good wall for a team
 
I need a 2nd wall thats not a purely special wall, that isn't Umbreon, Blissey or Skarmony for a lvl 50 team on Pokemon Pearl

I have Emerald so I can migrate pokemon from there.

It needs to be the following: Not weak to fire, Not fighting, Preferably not water (since I have one weak and none effective against electric), Prefer for it to be able to restore HP without Leftovers.

Anyone can give me some advice? I was think Cradily but its not really a physical wall...

Vainz June 27th, 2007 9:25 AM

The pokemon you need is Dusknoir. It has a Base Def of 135 and a base SpDef of 135. Here is his move set:

[email protected] Leftovers
EV's: Def-255, SpDef-255
Nature: Calm
-Curse (you can get rid of this for Pain Split)
-Rest
-Mean Look
-Destiny Bond (if you use Pain Split, use Shadow Punch}

I prefer to use Curse, but most people use Pain Split. His only weaknesses are Dark and Ghost, and he is unaffected by Fighting and Normal. If you cant trade for Dusknoir, you can still use Dusclops (base Def:130, SpDef:130).

Punishment June 27th, 2007 9:29 AM

Well unless you already have a Milotic on your team then it could fit your requirements except for the non water thingy.

She learns Recover and isnt weak to any of those types. She can learn Ice Beam and take a good hit from Electrical attacks. She isnt a pure Special Wall either can take a physical beating.

Crimson Arcanine June 27th, 2007 9:39 AM

I don't have Milotic on my team, but I do have a water pokemon on my team. Might be able to use that one IF i teach one of my other pokemon Earthquake to cover my heavy weakness to electric in the team.

Vainz...does Dusclops need to be traded with the Reaper Cloth to evolve into Dusknoir? because if it does, i won't be able to use it. (Have no-one to trade with nearby and my pc is stuffing up a bit which stops my wi-fi from working a lot of the time.)

Vainz June 27th, 2007 9:59 AM

Yes it does need reaper cloth, but it is fine as a Dusclops. I can understand if you dont want to use it if you cant have the last form.

Crimson Arcanine June 27th, 2007 10:35 AM

Maybe its best to tell people here my team so far...

sims796 June 27th, 2007 11:19 AM

That would be a good idea.

Crimson Arcanine June 27th, 2007 11:40 AM

Okay This is what I'm planning to use so far...I haven't worked out everything yet but this is what I have.

Hitmoncham - Impish Nature
Trait: Iron Fist
Item: Shell Bell

Drain Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
<not finalised yet>
------

Vaporeon - Sassy Nature
Trait: Water Absorb
Item: Leftovers

Aqua Ring
Fake Tears
Surf
<not finalised yet>
------

Ninetales - Quiet Nature
Trait: Flash Fire
Item: <not comfirmed>

Flamethrower
Energy Ball
<not finalised yet> (Nasty Plot?)
<not finalised yet>
------

Lucario - Relaxed Nature (Need a better nature)
Trait: Inner Focus
Item: <not comfirmed>

<moves not worked out yet, but most likely special or mixed sweeper>
------

Pinsir - Brave Nature (Might need a better one)
Trait: Mold Breaker
Item: <not comfirmed>

X-Scissor
Earthquake
<not finalised yet> (Swords Dance?)
<not finalised yet>
------

Thats all I got for now...

sims796 June 27th, 2007 11:53 AM

Keep Nasty Plot. And give Ninetails Hypnosis.

Crimson Arcanine June 27th, 2007 12:21 PM

Okay, i'll head off to bed...I'll make my decision after I wake back up. Tomorrows my last full day I have to train this team.

bossman34 June 27th, 2007 1:17 PM

Gliscor @ (You said not leftovers so..)??
Impish Nature (-SAtk, + Def)
Hyper Cutter
EVs 252 def / 126 hp / 126 atk / 4 spd
-Knock Off/Night Slash
-Roost (restore hp)
-Counter/X-Sissor
-Aerial Ace/Taunt

Gliscor is immune to ground and electric, but 4X weak to ice. 383 max def.


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